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Well... I did not await this but I think I have to make this post not as a warning but with informational character only. Everyone should think what he wants of my post.
Well, I was approached by niktitan132 asking me to provide a multisig escrow 2 of 3 for this ICO.
I said this ICO looks good so far and I suggested TwinWinNerD as the second escrow since he is highly trusted and I worked with him some times already.
I got a message back saying that they already asked e-cash.org to provide a public master key. It would be a famous website in german and they want to attract german customers. I never heard of that site and asked in german subforum if I missed something but no... no one every heard of it.
He wrote, well that is fine, that page already negated his request. So his next suggestion was Petros Anagnostou, he is involved with wave and they want to target the greek market, I was told. I checked a bit, he has a greek thread about wave... dunno what's about really. Though I do not really know if he is well known and trusted.
So I answered why does he want to target the greek market when he wants to target the world market. And if all of his investors would say "Yes, I know this guy. I trust him.". I doubt that.
I stressed the point that EVERY party in a multisig escrow needs to be independent. Otherwise the idea could come up that two of the parties somehow are the same of coupled some way.
In any way... I did not hear anything anymore even when asking back.
Now I see those both parties are the other 2 key holders now. Even though e-cash was negating the request before...
Anyway... this is a purely informative post and nothing more.
This is exactly the reason why I asked how the Escrow was arranged. The escow information in the OP only came up after I mentioned it, yet no one seemed bothered to ask this.( is anyone still thinking rationally or just ignorantly focussing on money?) It is a terrible idea that someone calls this an "escrow" yet the escrow key-holders have ties with the dev team. This is not how escrow works. I'm not saying they wont, but if the devs don't deliver say goodbye to your btc. pathetic that such lowlife people exist...
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szachta
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September 28, 2016, 11:23:35 AM |
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Maybe try download electrum and swap your private key.
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doktor1897
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September 28, 2016, 11:28:51 AM |
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I want a refund of my BTC In this ico.
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September 28, 2016, 11:35:23 AM |
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I found all his IP addresses from his DeCLOUDs Twitter account.Can we use them in some way?
you should do that, and help all investors so that his money back
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September 28, 2016, 11:38:29 AM |
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I found all his IP addresses from his DeCLOUDs Twitter account.Can we use them in some way?
Make it public, dont hide information. This is now a witch hunt.
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September 28, 2016, 11:39:05 AM |
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This is getting more hilarious by the minute. Obviously photoshopped. It doesn't even take a forensic analysis or an image search to see that, the photos are obviously shopped from the way that people are (not) looking at each other. The second photo was taken from here: http://aktion-pro-aktie.de/deutschlands-groesste-direktbankenstudie/ then shopped the "dev" with his mic on it. Good job. Compare: Thats what you call a scam. Great finding.. Good work friend, I think this proves the source is a big scam This is the funniest thing i've seen in a long time
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September 28, 2016, 11:41:07 AM |
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how terrible it is. why is the problem happened in this deCLOUDs ICO? This is very dangerous for this coin. it's unbelievable
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tomkat
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September 28, 2016, 11:43:31 AM |
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how terrible it is. why is the problem happened in this deCLOUDs ICO? This is very dangerous for this coin. it's unbelievable
Dangerous you say? This coin is basically over.
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September 28, 2016, 11:43:58 AM |
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I just contacted dynadot.com, the website where he registered declouds.com Hopefully, they will give me his contact information.
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chousbwxx
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September 28, 2016, 11:46:32 AM |
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I found all his IP addresses from his DeCLOUDs Twitter account.Can we use them in some way?
Make it public, dont hide information. This is now a witch hunt. Yes, let us report FBI, or KGB. According to OP's name, I predict OP is a Russian, he is not a Germany at all.
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tomkat
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September 28, 2016, 11:48:13 AM |
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Well... I did not await this but I think I have to make this post not as a warning but with informational character only. Everyone should think what he wants of my post.
Well, I was approached by niktitan132 asking me to provide a multisig escrow 2 of 3 for this ICO.
I said this ICO looks good so far and I suggested TwinWinNerD as the second escrow since he is highly trusted and I worked with him some times already.
I got a message back saying that they already asked e-cash.org to provide a public master key. It would be a famous website in german and they want to attract german customers. I never heard of that site and asked in german subforum if I missed something but no... no one every heard of it.
He wrote, well that is fine, that page already negated his request. So his next suggestion was Petros Anagnostou, he is involved with wave and they want to target the greek market, I was told. I checked a bit, he has a greek thread about wave... dunno what's about really. Though I do not really know if he is well known and trusted.
So I answered why does he want to target the greek market when he wants to target the world market. And if all of his investors would say "Yes, I know this guy. I trust him.". I doubt that.
I stressed the point that EVERY party in a multisig escrow needs to be independent. Otherwise the idea could come up that two of the parties somehow are the same of coupled some way.
In any way... I did not hear anything anymore even when asking back.
Now I see those both parties are the other 2 key holders now. Even though e-cash was negating the request before...
Anyway... this is a purely informative post and nothing more.
This is exactly the reason why I asked how the Escrow was arranged. The escow information in the OP only came up after I mentioned it, yet no one seemed bothered to ask this.( is anyone still thinking rationally or just ignorantly focussing on money?) It is a terrible idea that someone calls this an "escrow" yet the escrow key-holders have ties with the dev team. This is not how escrow works. I'm not saying they wont, but if the devs don't deliver say goodbye to your btc. pathetic that such lowlife people exist... Funny whenever you start asking questions, you're immediately called FUDer, negative person, and sometimes even threaten with banning, or other stuff. No one wants to listen, but they only see lambos, and millions in their pockets. There're still many potential scams in progress right now in crypto - you'll see it soon, and I guess your bodies are ready
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tomkat
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September 28, 2016, 11:51:25 AM |
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chousbwxx
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September 28, 2016, 11:51:37 AM |
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I found all his IP addresses from his DeCLOUDs Twitter account.Can we use them in some way?
I doubt is that useful or not, OP is a professional scammer always hides his ip with VPN or Tor. Why I think that he is a pro scammer? Because he showed escrow information, but made this very elaborate scam(the other escrow isn't alive, and use a 2 of 3 multi-sig addy), therefore one of escrow(you) didn't notice this situation.
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malcovixeffect
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September 28, 2016, 11:57:25 AM |
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I found all his IP addresses from his DeCLOUDs Twitter account.Can we use them in some way?
Make it public, dont hide information. This is now a witch hunt. Arm yourselves with pitch forks. LoL
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Axente
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September 28, 2016, 11:59:30 AM |
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And this site is russian so take your conclusions.
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trademark
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September 28, 2016, 12:01:15 PM |
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Just sent email to e-cash.org asking for information on Martin Mueller, that's if he even exists.
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szafa
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September 28, 2016, 12:05:23 PM |
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What you going to do with ip,ok.
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Videodrome
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September 28, 2016, 12:08:28 PM |
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I never trying to hoodwink anyone. I am a victim too.
You are not a victim, you are a scammer so deal with it and delete your btc talk user so you can scam more people with a brand new account.
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