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October 19, 2016, 08:25:42 AM |
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He has one key, and the other escrow is himself. He doesn't cash out the fund because we find his identity, so he fears police catch him.
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October 19, 2016, 08:27:37 AM |
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Well... I did not await this but I think I have to make this post not as a warning but with informational character only. Everyone should think what he wants of my post.
Well, I was approached by niktitan132 asking me to provide a multisig escrow 2 of 3 for this ICO.
I said this ICO looks good so far and I suggested TwinWinNerD as the second escrow since he is highly trusted and I worked with him some times already.
I got a message back saying that they already asked e-cash.org to provide a public master key. It would be a famous website in german and they want to attract german customers. I never heard of that site and asked in german subforum if I missed something but no... no one every heard of it.
He wrote, well that is fine, that page already negated his request. So his next suggestion was Petros Anagnostou, he is involved with wave and they want to target the greek market, I was told. I checked a bit, he has a greek thread about wave... dunno what's about really. Though I do not really know if he is well known and trusted.
So I answered why does he want to target the greek market when he wants to target the world market. And if all of his investors would say "Yes, I know this guy. I trust him.". I doubt that.
I stressed the point that EVERY party in a multisig escrow needs to be independent. Otherwise the idea could come up that two of the parties somehow are the same of coupled some way.
In any way... I did not hear anything anymore even when asking back.
Now I see those both parties are the other 2 key holders now. Even though e-cash was negating the request before...
Anyway... this is a purely informative post and nothing more.
What a prophetic post from SJ . I think that this how ICO's should work . Multi signature wallet with at least 2 trusted escrows . Too bad for people here lost their money . Hope this - and every - scammer will buy medicines with stolen funds . SJ is very professional, he found the risk and fishy things, but bitcoinexpert(one of escrow) is too naive to trust that scammer.
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October 19, 2016, 09:35:23 AM |
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decloud is learn about much people how to buy ico coin buy ico coin must use escrow and addres and balance is handle escrow so it dev scamer, capital money buyer ico can back again, and send back from escrow
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October 19, 2016, 09:41:59 AM |
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I still keep on receiving email asking me to invest on them, i think they have farmed the site for emails good thing it was just for spam mail. hope the mods can put a warning or something to avoid declouds.
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October 21, 2016, 03:07:50 AM |
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I still keep on receiving email asking me to invest on them, i think they have farmed the site for emails good thing it was just for spam mail. hope the mods can put a warning or something to avoid declouds.
OP is so retarded, only send emails, not show here. he is a fucking coward scammer, the scammer should show his face to public.
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October 21, 2016, 04:25:00 AM |
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And the bitcoins are gone. Scammer is very happy now. Grats for the investors hehe
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October 21, 2016, 05:50:48 AM |
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Bastard scammer!!!
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Betbase.io It's never been easier to run a casino
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October 21, 2016, 06:21:14 AM |
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October 21, 2016, 06:42:31 AM |
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decloud you learn about scamer scamer can use legendary account, not guranted legendary account not scamer so if you want buy ico coin
dev coin must use escrow, and addres is handle ecrow is reputable, not handle dev is danger you buy ico coin without escrow
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October 21, 2016, 06:45:29 AM |
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decloud you learn about scamer scamer can use legendary account, not guranted legendary account not scamer so if you want buy ico coin
dev coin must use escrow, and addres is handle ecrow is reputable, not handle dev is danger you buy ico coin without escrow
Right, reputable escrow are a few, just remember those names. Do research before investing guys, I feel someone will cry or have cryoed many times, but sorry, if you guys in Germany don't report to police, no one can help you. People already showed the evidence, and his identity.
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October 21, 2016, 07:10:20 AM |
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If it not had been for that photoshopped Image, The Scam would have run till the ICO End.
Glad he made a great Mistake...
If the detective didn't find that, OP must withdraw that money and fucking a hooker now, shame! Is he Unable to withdraw the money due to one key present with BitcoinExpert or He is Not Withdrawing the BTC intentionally ? He is Not Withdrawing the BTC intentionally. His identity was found by trademark, you can find it in previous posts, and this scammer owns 2 keys, one escrow(ecash.org founder) is himself. Is It Possible to withdraw funds from an escrow without ALL of the keys ? No, he will need 2 keys to do so, he probably has 2 keys himself since the escrow mentioned in the OP doesn't have a key. The escrow that said he doesn't have a key need to be scrutinized more. I also suspect something, Decloud team keep comparing their performance with that of Opair, I suspect they know each-other, If anybody can identify Opair developer we should be able to locate Decloud developer/s too
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October 21, 2016, 08:18:32 AM |
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He online just to deleted the OP and change to update and transfer the bitcoin from escrow address (but the true is fake escrow) to another bitcoin address, just more carefull for now many scammer
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October 21, 2016, 08:08:44 PM |
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If it not had been for that photoshopped Image, The Scam would have run till the ICO End.
Glad he made a great Mistake...
If the detective didn't find that, OP must withdraw that money and fucking a hooker now, shame! Is he Unable to withdraw the money due to one key present with BitcoinExpert or He is Not Withdrawing the BTC intentionally ? He is Not Withdrawing the BTC intentionally. His identity was found by trademark, you can find it in previous posts, and this scammer owns 2 keys, one escrow(ecash.org founder) is himself. Is It Possible to withdraw funds from an escrow without ALL of the keys ? No, he will need 2 keys to do so, he probably has 2 keys himself since the escrow mentioned in the OP doesn't have a key. The escrow that said he doesn't have a key need to be scrutinized more. I also suspect something, Decloud team keep comparing their performance with that of Opair, I suspect they know each-other, If anybody can identify Opair developer we should be able to locate Decloud developer/s too anyone already found the scammer? Opair and Declouds looks to have some form of connection. Someone posted about the similar linked in profiles of declouds Dev and opair CEO. BitcoinExpert the escrow & advisor of declouds did not knew of the holder of the 3rd key but also promoted Opair.
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October 21, 2016, 10:15:58 PM |
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This project is fix scam or have developt ? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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October 21, 2016, 10:18:48 PM |
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This project is fix scam or have developt ? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) It's a scam. Just a complete scam.
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October 23, 2016, 10:51:05 AM |
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Stupid investors are stupid, they lost the money, they don't find the police even they have proofs. They deserve the losses.
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October 24, 2016, 08:26:32 PM |
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My deposited BTC are still sitting in the wallet address that I sent too.
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