Someone please make a steem clone

[Munti]

I hate clones, so I never thought I'd say this: Please make a Steem clone

Despite it's obvious flaws, Steem has shown us how we can get Joe and Jane into crypto. Steem will fail of course for reasons discussed in other threads, but a clone that fixes the issues could become a huge success. I would certainly throw a few btc at it if it had a dev with good reputation.

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[americanpegasus]

I would prefer one based more on pictures and videos, like Instagram, instead of long winded justifications and rants.

[AstralWonder]

I would prefer one based more on pictures and videos, like Instagram, instead of long winded justifications and rants.

That's a very good idea. Making one and branding it as a new Instagram would make it huge!

[Hazir]

I don't think that just cloning a coin is good idea. Simple clone would never be as popular as original design.
What you want to is introduce EEE doctrine. Which means - embrace, extend, and exterminate.
This is known strategy Microsoft uses as main way to conquer the market; they first copy existing idea, hone it to the perfection and then you can kill original idea and control and monopolize this idea.

[iamnotback]

I am already coding it. Well let's say coding in my head but about to actually start writing down code.

And it won't be a clone. It (probably) won't use any of their code (but I reserve the right to change my mind and base it off of Graphene).

It will be very different, except in the ways in which Steem is working, it will be the same.

I need ideas for a name?

You can read my recent posts if you want to have some ideas about what I am changing.

Others are also working on clones, and I have spoken to one of them, but we have not yet decided to work together.

It will be a fairer launch also.

I have no idea yet how soon this might be ready. And I can't promise you I'll make it all the way to launch. Perspectives can change along the way.

[generalizethis]

 Steem just opened up a successful front that entices people to open up their first CC account, and you're like, "Hey, that's working! Let's try to minimize its effectiveness with another project, but this time we'll make it extra decentralized so varying factions can quibble on the most effective means to spend their marketing budget (or not spend any of it with chants of "HODL!")".

It took me awhile to see why steem's distribution makes sense (or more sense), but when I did  

[raphma]

Steem just opened up a successful front that entices people to open up their first CC account, and you're like, "Hey, that's working! Let's try to minimize its effectiveness with another project, but this time will make it extra decentralized so varying factions can quibble on the most effective means to spend their marketing budget (or not spend any of it with chants of "HODL!").

It took me awhile to see why steem's distribution makes sense (or more sense), but when I did  

could you explain to us? because i dont see it... right now a few whales control the platform and generally they only upvote sh*t post(i'm not saying one o mine should be upvoted, i'm saying i've saw good writers there getting 50+ upvotes but only a few bucks for that, and other posts, with less than 10 upvotes being paid 1000USD+)

one vote from ned and you get 1500+ SBD. that doesnt make sense to me.

[generalizethis]

Steem just opened up a successful front that entices people to open up their first CC account, and you're like, "Hey, that's working! Let's try to minimize its effectiveness with another project, but this time will make it extra decentralized so varying factions can quibble on the most effective means to spend their marketing budget (or not spend any of it with chants of "HODL!").

It took me awhile to see why steem's distribution makes sense (or more sense), but when I did  

could you explain to us? because i dont see it... right now a few whales control the platform and generally they only upvote sh*t post(i'm not saying one o mine should be upvoted, i'm saying i've saw good writers there getting 50+ upvotes but only a few bucks for that, and other posts, with less than 10 upvotes being paid 1000USD+)

one vote from ned and you get 1500+ SBD. that doesnt make sense to me.

It's not about good writing (most people rarely even understand great writing, so intimidating noobs away is hardly a good idea--see Nietzsche). What you want is fun posts that invite people in and get them thinking, "I can do that?" You also want post that further implant the meme of cryptocurrencies into the social consciousness (see gateway drugs), and you want established players in content creation to prove that the platform works. And finally, you want to represent different clicks of ethnic, social, and cultural backgrounds.  

*a few BOOBS don't hurt either.

As far as the whale factor--you're going to see lag. What's important is that the big markets get addressed, not that quality content is rewarded, that will be addressed by sub-communities who will be better arbiters of what is good for the community and what is quality--see poetry section (a poem that used a double "that" final end-rhyme got the highest payout of $2,700, a reputable poetry forum wouldn't let that happen--but that takes time.). If you look at the financial and cryptocurrency sections, you'll see that the quality, for the most part, is superior than the other sections, mostly because we have a community already established in cc and hundreds of articles waiting to be discovered by people outside our community.

[bbc.reporter]

I hate clones, so I never thought I'd say this: Please make a Steem clone

Despite it's obvious flaws, Steem has shown us how we can get Joe and Jane into crypto. Steem will fail of course for reasons discussed in other threads, but a clone that fixes the issues could become a huge success. I would certainly throw a few btc at it if it had a dev with good reputation.

Sorry but I am too lazy to research what the flaws of Steem that has been discussed in the forum. Will you please list them here? It does not have to be long. I just want to know the gist of it. Thank you.

[chryspano]

If you guys think that any steem user(whale or not) is going to read and get through thousands of posts and vote everything that is good, I think you got it wrong. Noone is going to spend this amount of time for that, some posts/threads are lucky, some others are not. This fair/unfair "debate" all the time makes me to puke.

If someone writes only occasionaly then he has to be somewhat lucky in order to  earn some rewards, on the other hand if someone writes good content all the time, no matter how lucky/unlucky he is short term, he will earn some reputation and people will follow him. "Follow" fuctionallity might not work right now but will in the future and that's what will save the day, followers! Btw if you think that people who earn today a lot rewards will continue to do so in the future I think that you got this wrong too. So please stop whining about "fairness" because "fairness" is what will be used by numerous s#!t clones in the near future to empty your pockets. If you think that there aren't "forces" that already devising plans on how to seperate fools and their money you are wrong!   

[iamnotback]

generalizethis, watch and learn.

There are fundamental flaws in Steem.

[iamnotback]

BOOBS!

I pick BOOBS to be the name of the new social media platform.

BOOB is the monetary unit ticker for the underlying coin equity in the system.

BooBucks will be the name for STEEM DOLLARS

Haha. That might work if only targeting young male nerds.

[generalizethis]

generalizethis, watch and learn.

There are fundamental flaws in Steem.

enumerate:

*my point [in other thread?] was you might have greater flaws in the decentralized version (it would have to be much more sophisticated than openbazzar to keep everything in check).

[iamnotback]

generalizethis, watch and learn.

There are fundamental flaws in Steem.

enumerate:

*my point [in other thread?] was you might have greater flaws in the decentralized version (it would have to be much more sophisticated than openbazzar to keep everything in check).

I believe there are economic flaws in Steemit that will cause it to collapse. I want to have something ready when it does.

It isn't just about decentralization, nor any one thing. I see several huge flaws in Steem that I think (my opinion) will prevent it from accomplishing what you think it is going to accomplish.

We will see who is correct. I am not omniscient and neither are you. Nature provides competition so that the outcome is resilient. Nature rarely puts all its eggs in one egg. One shot miracles are rare beasts.

There are many issues you are not aware of. And I am not going to explain all my thoughts now, any more than I already did in the numerous posts over the past few days. That is enough talk for now.

I'd like to read what others think about naming and concepts such as what users need and want.

[generalizethis]

generalizethis, watch and learn.

There are fundamental flaws in Steem.

enumerate:

*my point [in other thread?] was you might have greater flaws in the decentralized version (it would have to be much more sophisticated than openbazzar to keep everything in check).

I believe there are economic flaws in Steemit that will cause it to collapse. I want to have something ready when it does.

It isn't just about decentralization, nor any one thing. I see several huge flaws in Steem that I think (my opinion) will prevent it from accomplishing what you think it is going to accomplish.

We will see who is correct. I am not omniscient and neither are you. Nature provides competition so that the outcome is resilient. Nature rarely puts all its eggs in one egg. One shot miracles are rare beasts.

There are many issues you are not aware of. And I am not going to explain all my thoughts now, any more than I already did in the numerous posts over the past few days. That is enough talk for now.

I'd like to read what others think about naming and concepts such as what users need and want.

That's fair enough (reading strategy as a black-swan reverse stock split).

[ironm@n]

Matter of time, they are cloning everything these days... and forking

[kennyP]

I would prefer one based more on pictures and videos, like Instagram, instead of long winded justifications and rants.

I agree, videos & images are quicker to produce than blogs, and much more likely to be produced & shared by a regular person. Not everyone can write well but everyone can take a photo or video and upload it. Everyone wants their 15 minutes ...

As for a name, "FAMOUS", or some cool alternative spelling

edit: "Paparazzi" or an alternative spelling

[iamnotback]

Feedback on the following name idea?

peerbrary
peerbase

I am visualizing all media content and even games/apps going here, not just blogs. It is our collective blockchain database which nobody owns.

I am not sure if the above names will ring with any meaning for the masses, but neither did 'blog' when it was first coined. It is important to select a name that over time it becomes very distinct from copycats. And over time users come to associate the name with something of importance.

Although there are some aspects of the above names I don't think are ideal (e.g. they don't really illicit an emotional reaction, unless one is really excited about the concept they intend), I do like that they seem (for me at least) to be congruent with the thought of investing long-term in building a trove of content and media that is owned collectively by no one.


Users are coming for a combination of inspirations:

1. Nobody owns the content. The users own the site.
2. Instead of the money going to Facebook, they can gift this money (love) to each other by interacting and upvoting good content.
3. They can contribute content and maybe it even becomes a vocation.

[chryspano]

Feedback on the following name idea?

peerbrary
peerbase

I am visualizing all media content and even games/apps going here, not just blogs. It is our collective blockchain database which nobody owns.

I am not sure if the above names will ring with any meaning for the masses, but neither did 'blog' when it was first coined. It is important to select a name that over time it becomes very distinct from copycats. And over time users come to associate the name with something of importance.


Users are coming for a combination of inspirations:

1. Nobody owns the content. The users own the site.
2. Instead of the money going to Facebook, they can gift this money (love) to each other by interacting and upvoting good content.
3. They can contribute content and maybe it even becomes a vocation.

I think both names are terible, you need something simple like "peerIt".

Ok, noone owns the content and users own the site, but who develops and for how long? with what funds? Do you expect "volunteers" to do the hard work? I see no long term potential/survivability without some serious money paying for development.
 

[iamnotback]

Feedback on the following name idea?

peerbrary
peerbase

I am visualizing all media content and even games/apps going here, not just blogs. It is our collective blockchain database which nobody owns.

I am not sure if the above names will ring with any meaning for the masses, but neither did 'blog' when it was first coined. It is important to select a name that over time it becomes very distinct from copycats. And over time users come to associate the name with something of importance.


Users are coming for a combination of inspirations:

1. Nobody owns the content. The users own the site.
2. Instead of the money going to Facebook, they can gift this money (love) to each other by interacting and upvoting good content.
3. They can contribute content and maybe it even becomes a vocation.

I think both names are terible, you need something simple like "peerIt".

Thanks for the feedback.

Peerit and what is 'it' that is being peered? And in what way peered? Doesn't seem to have any meaning. Soon there will be so many *it copycats that it won't even stand out any more. blogit, vibeit, postit, tackit, lickit, pokeit, humpit, etc..  (<--- click my link for a laugh)

The word 'it' is not brandable.

Ok, noone owns the content and users own the site, but who develops and for how long? with what funds? Do you expect "volunteers" to do the hard work? I see no long term potential/survivability without some serious money paying for development.

There are multiple ways to fund ongoing development of the open source blockchain. And I am not thinking primarily of volunteerism.