Someone please make a steem clone

[suchwowwow]

Steemit website looks like it was built in the 80's, it's awful.

Seriously this site give such a bad image to crypto and it makes the project looks so cheap. Dan and Ned ( I believe ) have tried to improved some aspect of the design today but it got even worse, really they shouldn't even try to work on the front end, they clearly suck.

It's a shame that the site pays playmates 10k USD per post but can't get a dev to code a new modern UI.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@steve-walschot/dear-steemit-why-do-you-undervalue-your-developers-who-make-this-platform-big-and-usable

The minimalist UI argument is moot, you can have a very clean design that doesn't look like a stone aged website.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@etherdesign/new-website-design-for-steemit  This user came up with a pretty good design and is probably more suited than Dan for the job. Dan clearly has no idea what a UI should look like in 2016.

[iamnotback]

Steemit website looks like it was built in the 80's, it's awful.

Btw I saw your other thread. My 2 cents is I presume they just tried to get something launched and will let the free market build better UIs or they will improve theirs over time.

So many design concepts need experimentation including even totally new features other than blogging, not just the UI design.

But go look at google and tell me that substance (core functionality) isn't cardinal over form/aesthetics.

P.S. there were no websites in the 80's.   Well maybe one since Sir Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web in 1989. But DHTML didn't arrive until late 90's.

[suchwowwow]

Steemit website looks like it was built in the 80's, it's awful.

But go look at google and tell me that substance (core functionality) isn't cardinal over form/aesthetics.

I agree but the substance ( earning money) is not there on steemit for 80% of the newbie so UI is more important to keep them on the site.I would think that with a tech community it would be trivial to get a UI that doesn't look so outdated but it seems not.

[T3RAN13-2]

Edit: and smooth was already getting similar feedback before I started my rants today:

https://steemit.com/steemit/@t3ran13/steam-community-is-popular-but-what-will-be-next

my thoughts about solution https://steemit.com/steemit/@t3ran13/what-will-happen-with-steemit-if-the-whales-disappear

[iamnotback]

See I told you guys!

I wish a whale could throw some appreciation to this lady's comment for participating in a marketing focus group study:

We need to make sure people won't associate cryptocurrency and blockchains with scams, which is why it is so important that we get the details correct.

Absolutely! It's unfortunate, but many people do view it as a scam. It also doesn't help that mainstream media coverage only focuses on hacks and rarely covers success. To hear you say that, though, is comforting. It means that those involved are aware of outside perception and care enough to address it.

I followed up:

Apology if anyone interprets that I am polluting your blog with my agenda. I just want to add one last comment that I am concerned that the name choice is not the best.

Steemit may connote a porn site to some (most?) people.

I'm contemplating that especially women would be reticent to share this name with their cause-oriented groups if they started to notice whispers. I explained my understanding of the marketing of choosing a name at the Bitcointalk forum.

[iamnotback]

Edit: and smooth was already getting similar feedback before I started my rants today:

https://steemit.com/steemit/@t3ran13/steam-community-is-popular-but-what-will-be-next

my thoughts about solution https://steemit.com/steemit/@t3ran13/what-will-happen-with-steemit-if-the-whales-disappear

Upvoted and replied:

Well you've  condensed my various points from Bitcointalk into a blog post. Thank you.

Perhaps the whales wouldn't want to give up the power to influence which content is highest rewarded and ranked, because right now what makes the most economic sense for whales if we assume they want to cash out 1% weekly of their powered down STEEM POWER, is to create the most hype. The huge $ rewards and some of them to popular personalities in the crypto-libertarian-tinfoil-hat ecosystem probably drives more buying demand for STEEM on the exchanges and awareness overall. But I would wonder if this is less viral than a site with sincere benefits for the users who then spread it via word-of-mouth. I'd like to target the latter design.

[funbarrel]

we dont need it to be honest, the steem itself is really great and i think that it is going to grow only, it would be a really smart decision to invest in it

[iamnotback]

I think discussion is one of the most valuable engagements:

[teaching me about the Constitution]

I've followed you because I will when I have more free time, study your points in more detail with a copy of the Constitution.

Thanks for what you are doing. Hope you don't disappear in case I want to discuss further in the future.

I wish your post had received more attention, but maybe that will come in the future. This site is still growing and improving.

[iamnotback]

Steem's design is failing. And I believe they can't fix it (at least not without radically changing the distribution of the STEEM and the entire meaning of the STEEM POWER, which afaics is impossible for them do):

posts with low readership are disregarded, despite whether 100% of the few people who did read it thought it was a quality piece. Currently 'successful' posts are not a true reflection of quality, and the current system makes it extremely difficult for anyone else to rise up.

Agree there is no economic nor recognition incentive to form communities, only cater to the groupthink.

I read your post yesterday and actually wrote a post with a possible solution.

Post views can be attacked. A vote which costs nothing can also be attacked. Those are non-solutions.

I think I have a solution which involves not voting, but I am not quite ready yet to present it, as I am still analysing it.

[alnoor1231]

Anyone who is interested in the steem platform should look up https://nimirum.org/ it is an upcoming project with a bright future.

It is not exactly like steemit, but similar

more infos
https://cointelegraph.com/news/nimirum-on-a-mission-to-end-online-censorship-with-blockchain-technology

[densuj]

It will need much time and money for make it, because as we knew volume trading of steem is very high. And it will need big support from developer and comunity, but it is just my opinion. I am doubt there are people will make speculation but who is know.

[iamnotback]

Anyone who is interested in the steem platform should look up https://nimirum.org/ it is an upcoming project with a bright future.

It is not exactly like steemit, but similar

more infos
https://cointelegraph.com/news/nimirum-on-a-mission-to-end-online-censorship-with-blockchain-technology

Everybody wants to come into this thread and sell a vaporware ICO.

What all these are missing is they don't understand the marketing and scaling issues for viral adoption.

Note that Nimirium is a decentralized forum, not afaik a long-form blogging platform like Steemit.

I claim (or let's say I have reasons to think) I will beat all of these, but I won't beat them to be first to ICO vaporware. So investors pick your horses and be aware.

[alnoor1231]

Anyone who is interested in the steem platform should look up https://nimirum.org/ it is an upcoming project with a bright future.

It is not exactly like steemit, but similar

more infos
https://cointelegraph.com/news/nimirum-on-a-mission-to-end-online-censorship-with-blockchain-technology

Everybody wants to come into this thread and sell a vaporware ICO.

What all these are missing is they don't understand the marketing and scaling issues for viral adoption.

Note that Nimirium is a decentralized forum, not afaik a long-form blogging platform like Steemit.

I claim (or let's say I have reasons to think) I will beat all of these, but I won't beat them to be first to ICO vaporware. So investors pick your horses and be aware.

Put up or shut up.

[iamnotback]

Put up or shut up.

Exactly. Vaporware isn't putting up.

I could also go create some fancy website and make all these claims to raise BTC for vaporware. But I am not. I will raise money when I have something (at least partially) functional to show.

Instead I worked my ass off (120 hours in a week) to self-fund my own BTC by working as a blogger at Steemit. Which also enabled me to learn about what works and doesn't work.

I'm a successful blogger at Steemit (who will now recuse myself from blogging while I think the rewards algorithm is rewarding the wrong behavior), raising some 15 BTC on my own efforts. This is not vaporware.

[alnoor1231]

Put up or shut up.

Exactly. Vaporware isn't putting up.

I could also go create some fancy website and make all these claims to raise BTC for vaporware. But I am not. I will raise money when I have something (at least partially) functional to show.

Instead I worked my ass off (120 hours in a week) to self-fund my own BTC by working as a blogger at Steemit. Which also enabled me to learn about what works and doesn't work.

I'm a successful blogger at Steemit (who will now recuse myself from blogging while I think the rewards algorithm is rewarding the wrong behavior), raising some 15 BTC on my own efforts. This is not vaporware.

Wow 15 BTC! I'm glad you could earn your monthly McDonalds Paycheck from them. Lol
Nobody cares what you think about vaporware or not, the facts are you don't have a product either, so shut the fuck up bashing other people.
If you actually were going to create a product, you wouldn't be making meth binge type rage posts against me each time I post.

[iamnotback]

Wow 15 BTC! I'm glad you could earn your monthly McDonalds Paycheck from them. Lol

I see you are jealous of (Vitalik) mETH's burn rate. I can get a lot done without wasting a lot of money.

Nobody cares what you think about vaporware or not, the facts are you don't have a product either, so shut the fuck up bashing other people.

Well it is factually incorrect to state that no one cares what I have to say. There may be a lot of others who may agree with you, I dunno.

And I wasn't bashing others. I was stating the facts. It is an ICO, it is vaporware, and it is a decentralized forum design, not long-form blogging.

If you think removing your source of slush fund is bashing with facts, then I am guilty as charged.

Instead you could take my post positively as a challenge to actually go release something before you raise money.

The "whitepaper" (lol, not even close to being a white paper) for Nimium (Nimrod connotation?) doesn't even layout the case for any monetization model.

If you actually were going to create a product, you wouldn't be making meth binge type rage posts against me each time I post.

Ah fuck those bitches. I stand by what I wrote there. They were bashing Jeff without any hard proof to support their allegations.

What have I written against you  

And you'd have to be delusional to think I haven't being writing mostly about my research on the necessary design, marketing, and economics.

Orginally from the Biblical Nimrod, a mighty hunter, it has come to mean socially inadequade.


Before investors go buy a vaporware ICO, please read my insights:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558366.msg15907716#msg15907716

[generalizethis]

The English trick was to speak for the base, the French to the base....the American from the base...

https://steemit.com/poetry/@generalizethis/icarus-part-one


Or maybe the dumbed down uni-version--is better?

https://steemit.com/story/@ericvancewalton/success-an-original-poem

I mean why make someone pick up a book (including the narrator--I'll leave the reader to decide if hammock pics and first-word/best-choice rhymes deserve more than a chapbook's fee from a reputable magazine--especially when the structural irony of the soapbox is in question.)

or put simpler, "Dude, where's my high-school English teacher? Can't he see I'm an artiste' chillin like a villain? Suckers! Didn't even have to dust off my feet."


Maybe I should just play nice and say,

(not on my watch, but bonus for using original in the heading to disguise the triteness of the observation)

https://steemit.com/story/@ericvancewalton/the-edge-an-original-poem



https://steemit.com/poetry/@generalizethis/how-do-you-write-an-american-epic

[raphma]

Steemit website looks like it was built in the 80's, it's awful.

Seriously this site give such a bad image to crypto and it makes the project looks so cheap. Dan and Ned ( I believe ) have tried to improved some aspect of the design today but it got even worse, really they shouldn't even try to work on the front end, they clearly suck.

It's a shame that the site pays playmates 10k USD per post but can't get a dev to code a new modern UI.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@steve-walschot/dear-steemit-why-do-you-undervalue-your-developers-who-make-this-platform-big-and-usable

The minimalist UI argument is moot, you can have a very clean design that doesn't look like a stone aged website.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@etherdesign/new-website-design-for-steemit  This user came up with a pretty good design and is probably more suited than Dan for the job. Dan clearly has no idea what a UI should look like in 2016.

totally agree, i dont know why they didn't hire a good designer yet

[iamnotback]

If an altcoin distributes tokens into 100s of million of users' wallets in a way that they won't just dump it immediately (e.g. Auroracoin airdrop) and which they are engaged into that token's ecosystem, then Bitcoin has become the Appcoin!

[iamnotback]

Back to coding again...

https://github.com/shelby3?tab=repositories