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January 05, 2017, 03:28:31 PM
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What i wanted to know for a long time:

Is Ant Financial, a divison of the famous Alibaba Group, tied with Antshares? I couldn´t find any information to this topic but if you look at the symbol for Ant Financial you couldn´t deny a kind of optical parity.

http://www.alibabagroup.com/en/about/businesses
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January 05, 2017, 03:51:56 PM
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What i wanted to know for a long time:

Is Ant Financial, a divison of the famous Alibaba Group, tied with Antshares? I couldn´t find any information to this topic but if you look at the symbol for Ant Financial you couldn´t deny a kind of optical parity.

http://www.alibabagroup.com/en/about/businesses

No it isn't. Here are articles about the partnership between Antshares/Onchain and Alibaba. It is about providing an email repository on the blockchain for Ali Cloud:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/onchain-to-provide-framework-for-alibabas-blockchain-powered-email-evidence-repository
http://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/10/20/onchain-partners-with-alibaba-for-blockchain-powered-email-evidence-repository

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January 05, 2017, 09:56:50 PM
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@kaicrypzen: Thanks for the links, but this IMHO means that a big player in internet is connected with AntShares, even it is now just for e-mail repository.
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January 06, 2017, 02:03:54 AM
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What i wanted to know for a long time:

Is Ant Financial, a divison of the famous Alibaba Group, tied with Antshares? I couldn´t find any information to this topic but if you look at the symbol for Ant Financial you couldn´t deny a kind of optical parity.

http://www.alibabagroup.com/en/about/businesses

no, totally unrelated.


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January 06, 2017, 08:10:31 AM
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LOLZ! If you wanna attack Antshares, use real issues to begin with. One is: Communication with Western investors is sorely lacking.

I had to dig real deep to compile a dossier on Antshares main dev (Antshares' Buterin). He's genuine but he doesn't talk to communities, that's what I found out so far.

you nailed it here. in my previous post i was talking about their web/mobile/lite wallets. not everyone has the liberty to run full node and keep it synced. but the genuine issue is communication really. you get dumped on conveniently by Chinese investors and insiders. that's utterly disgusting and unprofessional.
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January 06, 2017, 08:21:45 AM
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... but the genuine issue is communication really. you get dumped on conveniently by Chinese investors and insiders. that's utterly disgusting and unprofessional.

Thank God for Technical Analysis! At least from the price action, we can have a glimpse of what these insiders are doing.

Told ya. It got scooped again.
It's actually trendless right now and bleeding until a whale scoops up again. However, we're at support price.
They will probably resume buying again around 0.92 - 0.96CNY.


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January 06, 2017, 08:48:47 AM
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Yeah, with 300 - 400 daily BTC volume in Polo, it will be the exchange leader in pricing. No more Chinese manipulating the price at will. ANS should be at least the same marketcap as Factom.
this project will not prosper and i will betting on that.
it's not bashing, it's an observation.


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January 06, 2017, 08:58:33 AM
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Yeah, with 300 - 400 daily BTC volume in Polo, it will be the exchange leader in pricing. No more Chinese manipulating the price at will. ANS should be at least the same marketcap as Factom.
this project will not prosper and i will betting on that.
it's not bashing, it's an observation.

Conclusion out of observation but with zero arguments.

That's an argument for my doubts that it's an "observation". ;-)
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January 06, 2017, 09:07:16 AM
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Btw: I'm also not too happy with the direction we've seen since the ICO. I hoped for better communication and a decent Mac-wallet etc.

But: When I look back and ask myself what was a game-changer for me, the answer is clearly Factom. And between September and October 2015 the price of FCT went down to 0.0002. ICO-price was 0.0005. The first months there was no wallet that worked for me and all over 2016 people were complaining about the wallet they've pushed out - they still are. In the meantime the team showed what they are able to do on the development- and business-front and the price is at 0.0033 now. In Dollar it's even more impressive.

Why do I mention Factom? Because I see some similarities. And what I really like and always focus on, even if not a coder: Constant updates on github:

https://github.com/antshares

Last one is 33 minutes ago. So, they are working on it.

Second point is: Yes, the price sucks. But that's not only a result of uncertainty about the project, it's more a result of the rising Bitcoin-price. Plus: Those who are still sitting on their ICO-ANS can collect Antcoins - and it can be expected that they are not worthless.

Conclusion: This needs some patience but I'm still optimistic that it will pay out, maybe like Factom did and does.
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January 06, 2017, 09:10:33 AM
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Yeah, with 300 - 400 daily BTC volume in Polo, it will be the exchange leader in pricing. No more Chinese manipulating the price at will. ANS should be at least the same marketcap as Factom.
this project will not prosper and i will betting on that.
it's not bashing, it's an observation.

It will have many pumps and just remember, they have 50 million ants to bump up their dev fund. Only a 50% of the supply Cheesy

Goes tooooo.............
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January 06, 2017, 11:02:41 AM
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Btw: I'm also not too happy with the direction we've seen since the ICO. I hoped for better communication and a decent Mac-wallet etc.
...

Why do I mention Factom? Because I see some similarities. And what I really like and always focus on, even if not a coder: Constant updates on github:

https://github.com/antshares

Last one is 33 minutes ago. So, they are working on it.


Second point is: Yes, the price sucks. But that's not only a result of uncertainty about the project, it's more a result of the rising Bitcoin-price. Plus: Those who are still sitting on their ICO-ANS can collect Antcoins - and it can be expected that they are not worthless.

Conclusion: This needs some patience but I'm still optimistic that it will pay out, maybe like Factom did and does.

Maybe it's time to call out the secretive main developer of Antshares, the main top honcho. He's fluent in English. David is useless.

I might as well share PUBLIC INFORMATION I gathered:

Zhengwen Zhang/Erik Zhang/张铮文 (Onchain Chief Technical Officer, Antshares Co-Founder)



Block Chain Technology and Computer Security Specialist, CISA Information Systems Auditor. Zhang Zhengwen is one of a handful of technical experts who have a low-level protocol architecture and development capability in block chain, and the author of the dBFT consensus mechanism has realized all the protocol layer code of Antshares. Before the founding of Antshares, Zhang Zhengwen engaged in computer security and digital currency research and development work.

https://github.com/erikzhang
erik@vcage.com
Room 502, No. 32, Lane 816, Baochun Road, Shanghai, China
Tel: +8613641890381

According to Zhang:
Quote
Virtual Machine is the key technology to realize a smart contract system. Smart Contract is the vehicle of business logics that exist on the layer of technological implementation. The execution of smart contracts requires a runtime environment, i.e. a virtual machine. On different blockchains, the expression capacity of smart contracts on business rules is limited by the capacity of virtual machines. The developers of blockchain applications should not only master the characters of the technologies of the blockchain, but also functionalities of corresponding smart contract virtual machines.

The designs, esp. the performances of virtual machines differ at home and abroad due to the different blockchain platforms. Bitcoin VM is light, clear and with a good performance. But it has limited support to advanced languages, status maintenance as well as Turing-Completeness. EVM is a more complete system, yet its architecture restrains itself: either stays within the architecture with limited performance, or breaking the architecture with external codes. Fabric has a very interesting strategy, allowing for a flexible selection of VM dockers and languages available on the market, yet losing the control to the VM and certainty. In the meantime, its sandbox VM has limitations over performace.

Antshares Founder Eric Zhang pointed, “when we were designing the Antshares VM, we were thinking about a design that merges the advantages of several other VMs, a light-weight universal blockchain VM that is based on OpCode therefore was born: The Antshares VM, in response to the pursuit.”

When comparing VMs of Bitcoin, Ethereum and Fabric, you can tell that Antshares VM has a faster execution speed, better performance, more complete logic control (Turing-complete) and supports to advanced languages. The ledger data interaction and status maintenance can be more flexible, while the offchain data interoperability and integration can be expanded, empowering the Antshares VM to be a universal VM for multiple blockchains.

Antshares, as we always do, will open source the codes. This will not just be beneficial to the community developers, but in fact echoes with our spirit of shared open-sourceness,” Eric Zhang went on, “an absolutely perfect solution absolutely do not exist, else why we see the difference here and there. However, we can start by merging the outstanding qualities of aforementioned VMs under specific scenarios to quickly iterate and achieve incremental improvement before perfection.”

It has been told that Antshares VM has great performance, Turing-complete logic control and is capable of flexible onchain and offchain data interoperability. Supports to advanced languages can be expected via corresponding compilers. A customable system calling will bring support to any designated blockchain.

Zhang said, the source codes of Antshares VM are also available via GitHub now. The whitepaper introduces a light-weight universal blockchain VM, which can be utilized by users on the Antshares Blockchain to deploy and execute smart contracts, upgrading digital assets into programmable smart digital assets.


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January 06, 2017, 11:06:13 AM
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The amount of effort you put on this thread, you should be paid if you're not already of course.

You don't pay enough.
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January 06, 2017, 05:03:32 PM
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https://www.ethnews.com/china-launches-144-billion-fintech-blockchain-fund
Should be good for antshares.
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January 06, 2017, 08:09:20 PM
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If these Chinese developers/projects are really active in development, one of these days Antshares will climb 5x to 8x, it's just a question of when.

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Btw: I'm also not too happy with the direction we've seen since the ICO. I hoped for better communication and a decent Mac-wallet etc.
...

Why do I mention Factom? Because I see some similarities. And what I really like and always focus on, even if not a coder: Constant updates on github:

https://github.com/antshares

Last one is 33 minutes ago. So, they are working on it.


Second point is: Yes, the price sucks. But that's not only a result of uncertainty about the project, it's more a result of the rising Bitcoin-price. Plus: Those who are still sitting on their ICO-ANS can collect Antcoins - and it can be expected that they are not worthless.

Conclusion: This needs some patience but I'm still optimistic that it will pay out, maybe like Factom did and does.

Maybe it's time to call out the secretive main developer of Antshares, the main top honcho. He's fluent in English. David is useless.

I might as well share PUBLIC INFORMATION I gathered:

Zhengwen Zhang/Erik Zhang/张铮文 (Onchain Chief Technical Officer, Antshares Co-Founder)



Block Chain Technology and Computer Security Specialist, CISA Information Systems Auditor. Zhang Zhengwen is one of a handful of technical experts who have a low-level protocol architecture and development capability in block chain, and the author of the dBFT consensus mechanism has realized all the protocol layer code of Antshares. Before the founding of Antshares, Zhang Zhengwen engaged in computer security and digital currency research and development work.

https://github.com/erikzhang
erik@vcage.com
Room 502, No. 32, Lane 816, Baochun Road, Shanghai, China
Tel: +8613641890381

According to Zhang:
Quote
Virtual Machine is the key technology to realize a smart contract system. Smart Contract is the vehicle of business logics that exist on the layer of technological implementation. The execution of smart contracts requires a runtime environment, i.e. a virtual machine. On different blockchains, the expression capacity of smart contracts on business rules is limited by the capacity of virtual machines. The developers of blockchain applications should not only master the characters of the technologies of the blockchain, but also functionalities of corresponding smart contract virtual machines.

The designs, esp. the performances of virtual machines differ at home and abroad due to the different blockchain platforms. Bitcoin VM is light, clear and with a good performance. But it has limited support to advanced languages, status maintenance as well as Turing-Completeness. EVM is a more complete system, yet its architecture restrains itself: either stays within the architecture with limited performance, or breaking the architecture with external codes. Fabric has a very interesting strategy, allowing for a flexible selection of VM dockers and languages available on the market, yet losing the control to the VM and certainty. In the meantime, its sandbox VM has limitations over performace.

Antshares Founder Eric Zhang pointed, “when we were designing the Antshares VM, we were thinking about a design that merges the advantages of several other VMs, a light-weight universal blockchain VM that is based on OpCode therefore was born: The Antshares VM, in response to the pursuit.”

When comparing VMs of Bitcoin, Ethereum and Fabric, you can tell that Antshares VM has a faster execution speed, better performance, more complete logic control (Turing-complete) and supports to advanced languages. The ledger data interaction and status maintenance can be more flexible, while the offchain data interoperability and integration can be expanded, empowering the Antshares VM to be a universal VM for multiple blockchains.

Antshares, as we always do, will open source the codes. This will not just be beneficial to the community developers, but in fact echoes with our spirit of shared open-sourceness,” Eric Zhang went on, “an absolutely perfect solution absolutely do not exist, else why we see the difference here and there. However, we can start by merging the outstanding qualities of aforementioned VMs under specific scenarios to quickly iterate and achieve incremental improvement before perfection.”

It has been told that Antshares VM has great performance, Turing-complete logic control and is capable of flexible onchain and offchain data interoperability. Supports to advanced languages can be expected via corresponding compilers. A customable system calling will bring support to any designated blockchain.

Zhang said, the source codes of Antshares VM are also available via GitHub now. The whitepaper introduces a light-weight universal blockchain VM, which can be utilized by users on the Antshares Blockchain to deploy and execute smart contracts, upgrading digital assets into programmable smart digital assets.


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January 07, 2017, 04:11:09 AM
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 Angry Totally embarrassing that you have a web wallet that takes 4 to 6 days to sync and a core wallet that closes itself. well done.  Angry
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January 07, 2017, 09:21:36 AM
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Is there a thread for OTC trades of this coin?
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January 07, 2017, 11:40:56 AM
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I no longer have probrems for synchronization like in the beginning.
Everything is going ok.
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January 07, 2017, 12:24:58 PM
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How can I change from local wallet to web wallet.
Is it possible to import local wallet into web using 'restore from backup' in the web wallet?
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January 07, 2017, 01:20:57 PM
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How can I change from local wallet to web wallet.
Is it possible to import local wallet into web using 'restore from backup' in the web wallet?

You can only export/import the private keys.

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