[PASC] PascalCoin: Induplicatable NFT

[moon010]

Hello
Is there a solution to the sync problem?

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[tlaskows]

Hello
Is there a solution to the sync problem?

Maybe check those big red messages.  It should say what the problem is.

I just synced about 1 hour ago.  Mind you, I only use Linux.

Windows can't seem to keep RTC in sync.  That's a hint...

[PascalCoin]

Hello
Is there a solution to the sync problem?

Your windows system time is invalid.
You need to sync timezone properly, that's something you must do on your windows system, not on PascalCoin Wallet (so, if you don't know how to do it, contact to a friend/profesional with basic windows system knwoledge)

After checked, then restart PascalCoin wallet

[Samthehero]

PascalCoin hitting fresh new lows for the year. Now below $10 million. Bottom nowhere in sight. I would stay away from PascalCoin unless you want to see your money wither away.

[tlaskows]

PascalCoin hitting fresh new lows for the year. Now below $10 million. Bottom nowhere in sight. I would stay away from PascalCoin unless you want to see your money wither away.

Some already invested in the project.  I did.  Selling at this price?  I don't think so.

It's only listed on 1 exchange still.

I *mined* 6 ZEC in few months and it's at its bottom too (it hit around 600$, it's ~160$).  Zec was 40$ when I first heard of it and started mining.  But there were no GTX 1080tis that can do equihash fast.  rx 480 is a joke for that algo.

This is like saying to stay away from any genuine coin.

BTC dipped below 6,000.  That's what happened.  It was 5800 or so couple days ago.

[Samthehero]

PascalCoin hitting fresh new lows for the year. Now below $10 million. Bottom nowhere in sight. I would stay away from PascalCoin unless you want to see your money wither away.

Some already invested in the project.  I did.  Selling at this price?  I don't think so.

It's only listed on 1 exchange still.

I *mined* 6 ZEC in few months and it's at its bottom too (it hit around 600$, it's ~160$).  Zec was 40$ when I first heard of it and started mining.  But there were no GTX 1080tis that can do equihash fast.  rx 480 is a joke for that algo.

This is like saying to stay away from any genuine coin.

BTC dipped below 6,000.  That's what happened.  It was 5800 or so couple days ago.

It would not surprise me one bit if PascalCoin keeps dropping hard. You think you won't sell because it's down from where you bought it. Well, you would be much better off selling now rather than to wait until it has dropped another 50% and has a marketcap below $5 million.

[tlaskows]

PascalCoin hitting fresh new lows for the year. Now below $10 million. Bottom nowhere in sight. I would stay away from PascalCoin unless you want to see your money wither away.

Some already invested in the project.  I did.  Selling at this price?  I don't think so.

It's only listed on 1 exchange still.

I *mined* 6 ZEC in few months and it's at its bottom too (it hit around 600$, it's ~160$).  Zec was 40$ when I first heard of it and started mining.  But there were no GTX 1080tis that can do equihash fast.  rx 480 is a joke for that algo.

This is like saying to stay away from any genuine coin.

BTC dipped below 6,000.  That's what happened.  It was 5800 or so couple days ago.

It would not surprise me one bit if PascalCoin keeps dropping hard. You think you won't sell because it's down from where you bought it. Well, you would be much better off selling now rather than to wait until it has dropped another 50% and has a marketcap below $5 million.

I never said I bought it or how many coins I had.

Note the mined part...

This forum is not for FUD to induce panic sell.

Side note:  There is no way to convert crypto to FIAT where I am.

[Mihawk]

I'll be looking to buy some PASC! When will there be more exchanges besides Poloniex? Do the other exchanges have difficulty adding PASC due to the complexity of PASA? Yesterday there was a good move in CNY, but suddenly, prices fell again! Is it accumulation?

[tlaskows]

I'll be looking to buy some PASC! When will there be more exchanges besides Poloniex? Do the other exchanges have difficulty adding PASC due to the complexity of PASA? Yesterday there was a good move in CNY, but suddenly, prices fell again! Is it accumulation?

Yes.  It's accumulation.

60 BTC volume over the last 24 hours.  That is massive.

I bought 11 BTC worth.

[Samthehero]

I'll be looking to buy some PASC! When will there be more exchanges besides Poloniex? Do the other exchanges have difficulty adding PASC due to the complexity of PASA? Yesterday there was a good move in CNY, but suddenly, prices fell again! Is it accumulation?

No there wont, but right now QBTC has the largest tradingvolume, much higher than Poloniex any way. Maybe you should trade there in stead.

[tlaskows]

I'll be looking to buy some PASC! When will there be more exchanges besides Poloniex? Do the other exchanges have difficulty adding PASC due to the complexity of PASA? Yesterday there was a good move in CNY, but suddenly, prices fell again! Is it accumulation?

Don't use polo.

I have few thousand PASC stuck/stolen on there that never made it onto the BC since Nov 7th, 2017.

That's over 7 months and the coins just evaporated into thin air.

Support is non-existent.

They auto close my tickets...

[Samthehero]

I'll be looking to buy some PASC! When will there be more exchanges besides Poloniex? Do the other exchanges have difficulty adding PASC due to the complexity of PASA? Yesterday there was a good move in CNY, but suddenly, prices fell again! Is it accumulation?

Don't use polo.

I have few thousand PASC stuck/stolen on there that never made it onto the BC since Nov 7th, 2017.

That's over 7 months and the coins just evaporated into thin air.

Support is non-existent.

They auto close my tickets...

That is really strange. Do you have proof of the stuck/stolen coins? Are you 100% sure you have not messed up something at your end?

[hush]

I'll be looking to buy some PASC! When will there be more exchanges besides Poloniex? Do the other exchanges have difficulty adding PASC due to the complexity of PASA? Yesterday there was a good move in CNY, but suddenly, prices fell again! Is it accumulation?

Don't use polo.

I have few thousand PASC stuck/stolen on there that never made it onto the BC since Nov 7th, 2017.

That's over 7 months and the coins just evaporated into thin air.

Support is non-existent.

They auto close my tickets...

POLO has worse support system I also disappointed due to this behavior. I think so that is just accumulation phase while there is no good support coming from dev. But somebody like to take risk to gain more high than it is nice choice.

[tlaskows]

I'll be looking to buy some PASC! When will there be more exchanges besides Poloniex? Do the other exchanges have difficulty adding PASC due to the complexity of PASA? Yesterday there was a good move in CNY, but suddenly, prices fell again! Is it accumulation?

Don't use polo.

I have few thousand PASC stuck/stolen on there that never made it onto the BC since Nov 7th, 2017.

That's over 7 months and the coins just evaporated into thin air.

Support is non-existent.

They auto close my tickets...

POLO has worse support system I also disappointed due to this behavior. I think so that is just accumulation phase while there is no good support coming from dev. But somebody like to take risk to gain more high than it is nice choice.

Agreed.  Terrible, basically no support.

Polo is gaining.  The average user is basically screwed.

Like I said, I'm dealing with it on my own.  Just exercise extreme caution.

Here is the withdrawal history.  Something went wrong on polo end on purpose, but only for 24 hours.  It's not the dev's fault.  They can't control what exchanges do.

Complete   PASC   3.00900000
2018-04-18 12:21:55
Address: 273378-95
Txid: 00000000765201002414000020d3f19e3ddb550734c5305398e4539e98b011df
 
Complete   PASC   1.00000000
2017-11-14 03:18:28
Address: 2569-44
Txid: 00000000765201009c08000088cde92d6e98265c3d6dcf32afa2265b7e487b24
 
Complete   PASC   1.00000000
2017-11-10 04:18:32
Address: 2569-44
Txid: 00000000765201009c08000011ba5daf22749c53a03f9e624dc381174fc1c9aa
 
Complete   PASC   2504.00000000
2017-11-07 15:17:01
Address: 2569-44
Txid: 00000000765201009708000002617d6066c89929ab0c1d1aa9bf596a941e837e  <- this one is not on the explorer.

The 2504 withdrawal is completely gone.  Completed according to status.  The other ones after that one worked instantly.  Few seconds and it was in my local wallet.

I can transfer to/from my local wallet.  0 issues.

[Samthehero]

I'll be looking to buy some PASC! When will there be more exchanges besides Poloniex? Do the other exchanges have difficulty adding PASC due to the complexity of PASA? Yesterday there was a good move in CNY, but suddenly, prices fell again! Is it accumulation?

Don't use polo.

I have few thousand PASC stuck/stolen on there that never made it onto the BC since Nov 7th, 2017.

That's over 7 months and the coins just evaporated into thin air.

Support is non-existent.

They auto close my tickets...

POLO has worse support system I also disappointed due to this behavior. I think so that is just accumulation phase while there is no good support coming from dev. But somebody like to take risk to gain more high than it is nice choice.

Agreed.  Terrible, basically no support.

Polo is gaining.  The average user is basically screwed.

Like I said, I'm dealing with it on my own.  Just exercise extreme caution.

Here is the withdrawal history.  Something went wrong on polo end on purpose, but only for 24 hours.  It's not the dev's fault.  They can't control what exchanges do.

Complete   PASC   3.00900000
2018-04-18 12:21:55
Address: 273378-95
Txid: 00000000765201002414000020d3f19e3ddb550734c5305398e4539e98b011df
 
Complete   PASC   1.00000000
2017-11-14 03:18:28
Address: 2569-44
Txid: 00000000765201009c08000088cde92d6e98265c3d6dcf32afa2265b7e487b24
 
Complete   PASC   1.00000000
2017-11-10 04:18:32
Address: 2569-44
Txid: 00000000765201009c08000011ba5daf22749c53a03f9e624dc381174fc1c9aa
 
Complete   PASC   2504.00000000
2017-11-07 15:17:01
Address: 2569-44
Txid: 00000000765201009708000002617d6066c89929ab0c1d1aa9bf596a941e837e  <- this one is not on the explorer.

The 2504 withdrawal is completely gone.  Completed according to status.  The other ones after that one worked instantly.  Few seconds and it was in my local wallet.

I can transfer to/from my local wallet.  0 issues.

Have you tried rebuilding the local wallet? If you have not I would give that a try.

[tlaskows]

I'll be looking to buy some PASC! When will there be more exchanges besides Poloniex? Do the other exchanges have difficulty adding PASC due to the complexity of PASA? Yesterday there was a good move in CNY, but suddenly, prices fell again! Is it accumulation?

Don't use polo.

I have few thousand PASC stuck/stolen on there that never made it onto the BC since Nov 7th, 2017.

That's over 7 months and the coins just evaporated into thin air.

Support is non-existent.

They auto close my tickets...

POLO has worse support system I also disappointed due to this behavior. I think so that is just accumulation phase while there is no good support coming from dev. But somebody like to take risk to gain more high than it is nice choice.

Agreed.  Terrible, basically no support.

Polo is gaining.  The average user is basically screwed.

Like I said, I'm dealing with it on my own.  Just exercise extreme caution.

Here is the withdrawal history.  Something went wrong on polo end on purpose, but only for 24 hours.  It's not the dev's fault.  They can't control what exchanges do.

Complete   PASC   3.00900000
2018-04-18 12:21:55
Address: 273378-95
Txid: 00000000765201002414000020d3f19e3ddb550734c5305398e4539e98b011df
 
Complete   PASC   1.00000000
2017-11-14 03:18:28
Address: 2569-44
Txid: 00000000765201009c08000088cde92d6e98265c3d6dcf32afa2265b7e487b24
 
Complete   PASC   1.00000000
2017-11-10 04:18:32
Address: 2569-44
Txid: 00000000765201009c08000011ba5daf22749c53a03f9e624dc381174fc1c9aa
 
Complete   PASC   2504.00000000
2017-11-07 15:17:01
Address: 2569-44
Txid: 00000000765201009708000002617d6066c89929ab0c1d1aa9bf596a941e837e  <- this one is not on the explorer.

The 2504 withdrawal is completely gone.  Completed according to status.  The other ones after that one worked instantly.  Few seconds and it was in my local wallet.

I can transfer to/from my local wallet.  0 issues.

Have you tried rebuilding the local wallet? If you have not I would give that a try.

Yes.  Few times.  Always rebuils fine.  Full wallet.

I did it to ensure I can rebuild it from my key backups.

I have two copies running on Linux.

One on Kali Linux 2012 MacBook pro retina.  Syncs way faster than the one I wave running on Intel atom Ubuntu.

I download the blochchain, copy it to Data dir (wiping anything that is already there) and copy my keys to the home folder.

Sometimes it takes a while if the protocol is v1 (no copy of the BC v3 online) but it eventually automatically upgrades to v3.

I can sent you 1 PASC.

PM me you PASA.  Better to test if it can sent to another account, not exchange.

[cleverhope]

I have been following this project for a long time and I had an opinion that this is not a very serious project. No one would have known about this project, if Poloniex not added it a year ago. So personally it seems to me that this is a pocket token of the exchange. But I would like to ask why the developers do not try to add their token to other exchanges?

[tlaskows]

I have been following this project for a long time and I had an opinion that this is not a very serious project. No one would have known about this project, if Poloniex not added it a year ago. So personally it seems to me that this is a pocket token of the exchange. But I would like to ask why the developers do not try to add their token to other exchanges?

It's not a token.  PoW fully mineable coin.  No ico, no premine, no sale.

It has mentioned many times before that it costs as many as 6 BTC to get it listed.  Exchanges are greedy or if they don't see value in the coin, they will not list it for 'free'.

It's not the dev's job to pay for listing it.

The project to get it listed has been ongoing for several months (by other community members).

If you can spare 6 BTC, it can get listed.  There is a number of exchanges that would if they were paid.

Please check the whole thread.

[Skybuck]

I had a visitor to my PascalCoin forum (http://www.skybuck.org/PascalCoin/Forum/) a while ago, I saw he was interested in mining pascal coin, the mining forum section was empty so today I decided to update it with some usefull information and also to make all software tools available for mining PascalCoin:

The PascalCoin mining tutorial can be found on my forum see link below, on that forum/posting there is also a further link to the necessary software. (Which can be found in \src folder as described there )

http://www.skybuck.org/PascalCoin/Forum/index.php?topic=32.0

For those still interesting in PascalCoin mining without using pools and instead using your own machine(s) have fun and good luck mining !

This information for me myself is mostly usefull for just testing out the software ! =D

[Skybuck]

I found this a bit interesting:

https://www.usenix.org/conference/nsdi18/presentation/geng

It describes an algorithm for "nano-second" precise timing using network peers, almost seems to good to be true.

Timing is important for blockchain technology.

PascalCoin git log does contain some hint/reference to a possible timing attack and a safeguard against it, where double spends or other attacks might be possible if time is off by too much. Saw a website about it describing an attack where a single system gets dossed or something like that and then fooled into believing a fake chain and such.

Anyway PascalCoin since it's P2P seems like a nice candidate to include this advanced algorithm. Currently I have no idea how it works =D ...   =D

(Gonna watch this video seems interesting and kinda bored right now =D)

Ok watched the video, the idea is very simple and pretty cool.

I wonder what kind of accuracy/precision PascalCoin and other blockchains need. The "attack" document did describe that even a clock sync off by 1 second could be exploited, so the answer is probably as low as possible. Kinda funny idea this video, highly recommend watching it.

(Didn't know nics could do timestamping, may look into it. Idea in short is to send two packets, and measure time between them, any difference as recorded, signifies queue/noise delays, sometimes they will have zero delays and no noise, so idea is based on "filtering out" these perfect two "packet pairs" which are called "probes" or "coded packets". I do see a flaw in this idea though, if these "ideal" pairs never occur then this system won't work anyway once these ideal packets are filtered out they are put through something called SVM, some kind of machine learning software, never heard of this before. And a lower/upper bound can already be determined I think even in noisy channels, the filtered probes, cut back noise even more, and finally SVM can find the "red line" between them or so... I will google this SVM to see what it is about. Anyway the idea is interesting, but there could be other technique to filter out this noise It later goes on about some kind of "circle loop" mechanics to "label" / "time" loops ammong many K servers, and finally all results collected on one chosen server/"master" and
finally re-distributed. Would be nice if this phase/step of the algorithm was more "distributed" maybe that possible too not sure).

Kinda wonder if PascalCoin has it's own "Network Time" detection ? I did see some "Network Adjusted Time" but perhaps this is something different ?

I think bitcoin does try and determine a "consensus on what the time is by some p2p algorithm or so". This may be attackeable but so far is holding up.

Also this new "huygens" algorithm is new, and has probably not been examined how "temper" proof it is. What if clients/servers start to missbehave ?! Hmmmm.... might be useless algorithm not sure about that Here probably most "voices"/"votes" matter and might make it temper proof against maybe "idealizing" probes or whatever or "fraudelent reports to master".

(If implemented in PascalCoin, this could be PascalCoin's first "Distributed APP" an APP to determine time to 10 to 100 nanoseconds precision or so.)