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I've been researching this project (initally I asked myself why is it so hard to find information, but it soon became apparent why) and was a fan of the idea. For a team that's developing such advanced technology you sure do have a shitty non-informative website.
One of the first things I wanted to find out was supply and distribution. So let me get this straight. The total supply is 100,000,000 and all of this has been distributed to 'donators'? What a total farce and joke. Evil-Knievel (ridiculous name btw) are you going to give me an intelligent non-strawman answer as to how a token that's 100% in the hands of initial investors is going to allow a fair widespread use of this technology? Are you going to give a rational explanation how this is fair and how widespread adoption is meant to happen if all of the tokens are in the hands of a few?
Go on, give it a go. You won't because this is a ridiculous and unethical way of distributing tokens for a technology which has the sole premise of decentralized and distributed computing.
I've seen your posts and instead of giving logical and intelligent explanations you either act like a child and complain how you won't continue your work if you receive 'abuse' or you conveniently refuse to answer under the guise of not answering trolls and fud'ers. I am neither and hope you prove how this isn't another scam ICO.
While I'm entirely against ICOs/donations or whatever kids call them these days, I don't see how other projects are any more "fair". How was the distribution method different from Golem, SONM or Gnosis? It's like saying Bitcoin wasn't distributed fairly, because Satoshi owns 1M BTC. The way I see it - weak hands will bring price down so that anyone can get in. Those who want to run computation jobs can earn some by providing that service. I don't know about the other coins you mentioned but Bitcoin is mineable, a key distinction. From my understanding Elastic tokens are not created but earned. Where do you think the earned coins come from? Therefore distribution plays a huge role and needs to be fair and ethical.
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I don't know about the other coins you mentioned but Bitcoin is mineable, a key distinction. From my understanding Elastic tokens are not created but earned. Where do you think the earned coins come from? Therefore distribution plays a huge role and needs to be fair and ethical.
Ok. I agree. In fact I don't think ICOs in any shape or form are ethical. But the reality is that it's how all new projects get funded. Was access to this not available to you a year ago? Was it not announced? I don't see how this is not fair. No point in complaining now that you've missed it. If you don't like it - go get golem or SONM. I'm far more interested in the utility than in how a project was created or whether it was fair. I have yet to see a project that makes everyone happy as far as distribution goes. I'm most excited about the fact that ElasticPL will eventually run on the GPU. That is massive. If it gets there that is. But from what I read all the prerequisites are there. Out of curiosity how did you arrive at the conclusion that I'm raising this point because I 'missed' out? Believe it or not there are people out there who look into things because that's what intellectual people do. I know you are far more interested in utility rather than fairness, people like you are the reason why ICO's exist. You're misunderstanding the use of 'fair'. You clearly don't understand the ideals that spurred coins like Bitcoin to be created. Position it however you like, the fact remains that however good the tech is, the distribution of Elastic isn't alligned with it's principles. And if the distribution is not ethical this brings the entire project into disrepute. Why do you think premined, ninja or instamined coins are starred on CMC? If you don't know then you don't have the intelligence to understand the issues I'm raising with Elastic's token distribution. I don't care if this is the trend of how projects get funded. This is less of an issue for mineable coins.
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July 01, 2017, 08:31:30 PM |
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I think XEL can be success like IOTA in first week exchange in Bittrex. And for further can be like ETH. Now all up to the XEL Community.. so be calm. because XEL system have value like ETH.
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July 04, 2017, 06:33:54 PM Last edit: July 06, 2017, 08:51:20 AM by timbereagle |
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Hello,
If any big guy wants to buy I have quiete a bit of XEL. please PM me.
thank you.
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bittrex added it but now the prise is very low about 13-14k. what do you think about the prise? Are these levels a buying opportunity?
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Metros
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July 06, 2017, 10:59:16 AM |
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What was ICO price of XEL? I forgot
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July 06, 2017, 11:02:49 AM |
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bittrex added it but now the prise is very low about 13-14k. what do you think about the prise? Are these levels a buying opportunity?
i guess 13-14k is the accumulation. once the ico Investors are rid of their coins which gave them already alot of Profit it will go straight up again
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July 06, 2017, 11:27:33 AM |
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bittrex added it but now the prise is very low about 13-14k. what do you think about the prise? Are these levels a buying opportunity?
i guess 13-14k is the accumulation. once the ico Investors are rid of their coins which gave them already alot of Profit it will go straight up again So price gonna get dumped soon
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July 07, 2017, 12:04:54 PM |
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XEL price will drop much more!
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July 07, 2017, 12:11:38 PM |
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Something is going on XEL. The price will drop much more, I think. Everyone is selling.
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July 07, 2017, 12:14:30 PM |
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For every person who sells it, there is one person who buys it.
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July 07, 2017, 12:18:06 PM |
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bittrex added it but now the prise is very low about 13-14k. what do you think about the prise? Are these levels a buying opportunity?
i guess 13-14k is the accumulation. once the ico Investors are rid of their coins which gave them already alot of Profit it will go straight up again So price gonna get dumped soon Yes I believe price will come down.I feel the price will only rise after August.
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July 07, 2017, 12:23:05 PM |
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I've heard something. Big whales selling their XELs. Price will drop.
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July 07, 2017, 12:31:35 PM |
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I've heard something. Big whales selling their XELs. Price will drop.
The FUD. Looks like a healthy project.
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July 07, 2017, 12:46:22 PM |
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I've heard something. Big whales selling their XELs. Price will drop.
The FUD. Looks like a healthy project. what? sell now and buy low. the price will drop. whales selling this shit
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