Is ETC / ETH dead

[Ayers]

Because of price ETC going down doesn't mean it is dead, in my opinion it is just fluctuating and it is normal. Today is time for buy ETC hold until price going up again. But that is my way of trading ETC.

That is logical way of thinking, ETC also has a lot of support with the community and the market to handle the sells.

But Logic does not fit the agenda of fudsters

ETC is fine, right now there is more sellers than buyers and the reversal will occur after DTHs get their ETC which might not be that big of a drop if any for the ETC price when it occurs given that most DTHs are disgruntled with ETH and Dao after being played for suckers. The real sell offs have likely already occurred as an anticipation for this. We'll just have to wait and see when the WHGs finally release the hostage they tried to smuggle through the borders of Polo.

Exaggerations on markets goes both ways and ETC will go through the same cycles as other markets. Every new case tends to be slightly different but in a nut shell rather similar.

The real sell off has not started yet for the ETC. The hacker has 3% of the total ETC to sell.
The Etheruem Foundation also has a lot to sell.

That hacker can manipulate the ETC price without selling the ETC by himself. He can raise the price by saying he is not going to sell.

Anything may happen in crypto. Some TH fanboys are dreaming of high price due to some upcoming project in ETH. ETC fanboys are ignoring ETH as ETH is nothing but a fork. many men Many mind. So, i think we should research first and should not invest the money beyond our limit, the lose we can not tolerate.

It does not matter if a coin is a fork. As long as it is developed properly, the people will support it and the price will rise.

it's actually matter, or everyone would only make clone of a clone and you will only see ethereum clone lol, clone of clone are not seen very well it's better to start a new project with some different features to make it unique

[Vasetar]

Because of price ETC going down doesn't mean it is dead, in my opinion it is just fluctuating and it is normal. Today is time for buy ETC hold until price going up again. But that is my way of trading ETC.

That is logical way of thinking, ETC also has a lot of support with the community and the market to handle the sells.

But Logic does not fit the agenda of fudsters

ETC is fine, right now there is more sellers than buyers and the reversal will occur after DTHs get their ETC which might not be that big of a drop if any for the ETC price when it occurs given that most DTHs are disgruntled with ETH and Dao after being played for suckers. The real sell offs have likely already occurred as an anticipation for this. We'll just have to wait and see when the WHGs finally release the hostage they tried to smuggle through the borders of Polo.

Exaggerations on markets goes both ways and ETC will go through the same cycles as other markets. Every new case tends to be slightly different but in a nut shell rather similar.

The real sell off has not started yet for the ETC. The hacker has 3% of the total ETC to sell.
The Etheruem Foundation also has a lot to sell.

That hacker can manipulate the ETC price without selling the ETC by himself. He can raise the price by saying he is not going to sell.

Anything may happen in crypto. Some TH fanboys are dreaming of high price due to some upcoming project in ETH. ETC fanboys are ignoring ETH as ETH is nothing but a fork. many men Many mind. So, i think we should research first and should not invest the money beyond our limit, the lose we can not tolerate.

It does not matter if a coin is a fork. As long as it is developed properly, the people will support it and the price will rise.

it's actually matter, or everyone would only make clone of a clone and you will only see ethereum clone lol, clone of clone are not seen very well it's better to start a new project with some different features to make it unique

That is true. The Etheruem price is lower than the price before the hard fork. So it has bad effect.

[malekbaba]

I think there will be a blood bath for the eth. ETH, ETC and new clone will come in future. Some may find it as scam. If people loose trust , there will be massive dump in ETC and ETH too. Coin with unique feature will get massive pump soon. And mining will see THE END soon

[aomakun]

"Are they dead?"
no

"are they dying?"
apparently, but who would know?

"false news to dump"
Most of the news aren't false, things are not good for them. but i'm still betting on ETC.

Perfect. 

good answer..

[Dassi]

Ethereum has always been an accident going somewhere to happen right from the start. It has too many shady stories for it to last very long unlike litecoin which still stands against all odds.

[Harmonica]

Ethereum has always been an accident going somewhere to happen right from the start. It has too many shady stories for it to last very long unlike litecoin which still stands against all odds.

Litecoin stands, but lets be honest, it is as good as dead now.

Ethereum stories of shady dealings is just rhetoric from the Bitcoin fanatics.  Ethereum has achieved more than any other blockchain in the past year.  Ups and downs will need to happen to everyone before it hits mainstream, the same has happened to Bitcoin as well.

[dearbesz1219]

I am confused. Still mining ETH / ETC (one at a time). Would like to see them for long time. Please tell me, will etc / eth die soon ? I have seen good volumes in different exchanges, lot of debates, and I am confused. What is actually going on ? Are they dead already ? Or just greedy people are publishing false news to dump the price and greedy traders will buy them to sell at high afterwards?
Please do not confuse me anymore

Maybe just because the person itself is greedy, he/she want etc/eth be gone in the cryptocurrency. But in my assessment even its a clone of bitcoin their both establish a good community in bitcoin world.

[malekbaba]

I am confused. Still mining ETH / ETC (one at a time). Would like to see them for long time. Please tell me, will etc / eth die soon ? I have seen good volumes in different exchanges, lot of debates, and I am confused. What is actually going on ? Are they dead already ? Or just greedy people are publishing false news to dump the price and greedy traders will buy them to sell at high afterwards?
Please do not confuse me anymore

Maybe just because the person itself is greedy, he/she want etc/eth be gone in the cryptocurrency. But in my assessment even its a clone of bitcoin their both establish a good community in bitcoin world.

ETH was getting numerous small and big attacks from last few months. Is it getting too much attacks from enemies or they are buggy , I do not know. Price and volume of both coins are going down. They are suffering a lot. BTW i made decent profit from eth and etc and hope they will live long .

[AsaroUk]

I do not think its bad or that its gonna die, I think we just need some patient it will get back up without any doubts.
It has a pretty okay future if you are asking me.

[Zaun]

I do not think its bad or that its gonna die, I think we just need some patient it will get back up without any doubts.
It has a pretty okay future if you are asking me.

Its indeed not bad but the fact is that its hard to say what is gonna happen with it, I think that it has a great future and that it can even win from the bitcoin on a long term.
It maybe sounds crazy but I really have this feeling.

[bravehearth0319]

I am confused. Still mining ETH / ETC (one at a time). Would like to see them for long time. Please tell me, will etc / eth die soon ? I have seen good volumes in different exchanges, lot of debates, and I am confused. What is actually going on ? Are they dead already ? Or just greedy people are publishing false news to dump the price and greedy traders will buy them to sell at high afterwards?
Please do not confuse me anymore

So far, these two alts ETC and ETH there price right now can be considerate as good, they're also build both good community here in bitcoin world, so I don't think they're be dead. as long as there investor buying there coins it will continually exist.

[HCLivess]

http://coincidental.eu/2016/10/10/the-ethereum-era-is-over-for-now/

[malekbaba]

Will they go to POS soon ? What if these coins turn into POS and gpu mining will be not viable as it is now. In a day or two , mining new coin will not be profitable due to sky high difficulties and network hashrate. I will miss these 2 coin.

[Spoetnik]

I do not think its bad or that its gonna die, I think we just need some patient it will get back up without any doubts.
It has a pretty okay future if you are asking me.

WHY ?

Notice how you are all lining up to say that over & over ?
Yet how many of you have said you *USED* Ethereum ?

0.

All of you are checking scam coin "prices" on Poloniex etc.

Sitting there as dumb fuck bag holders with some retarded optimistic vision that your scam coin ICO scheme tokens will magically for some reason suddenly shoot up in value..

But WHY would it ?

I don't suppose it would have anything to do with it's usage would it ?

And isn't that the point of you guys "investing" like they are "Penny Stocks" ?
Let me pose a scenario for you little mensa geniuses.

I start a company then say it will make magical doodad's.
Then i go public with my company then rake in millions of dollars..
Then as the leader i admit publicly that i dumped much of my "holdings" for a million dollars.
Ok so now look around.. who is using the doodad's ?

NOBODY !

What has happened is the SAME people who bought into the ICO are the SAME ones creating a facade of fake usage.
Those little lists of APP's / Smart Contracts that you all post occasionally are just an attempt by crypto nerd profiteer bag holders to prop up their scam..
They are NOT real world usage by common folk who came onto the scene and decided to USE the doodad thingamabobber because they wanted to "use it"

In other words Ethereum..

That is the TRUTH and you can deny it all you want it makes no difference.
At the end of the day you are all just acting like greedy deceitful bag holders.
Most of whom bought in high and are now trapped hoping to eventually break even.

I suggest you all use better judgement in the future and get out of it when you can.
Supporting ICO scheme's for profit is not a sensible "investment" 

[mace15]

Etc/ eth is not dead, as verified the market is still active.
As we notice eth still active in the market, traders still
doing buy/sell this coins. As long there is traders
the market is still active.

[Vasetar]

Etc/ eth is not dead, as verified the market is still active.
As we notice eth still active in the market, traders still
doing buy/sell this coins. As long there is traders
the market is still active.

I am not sure about the ETC. But the ETH still has quite active development. So it will survive at lease in the short term.

[malekbaba]

It seems to me that ETH will survive , at least for short times. But ETC price is falling sharply and we are having least response from the community. Slow progress, low volumes in exchanges and whatever progress it makes has no effect on large scale.

[Cryptotraider16]

not dead but may be soon,you never know

[Vasetar]

not dead but may be soon,you never know

Both the ETC and ETH are under some kinds of attack. The ETH can hard fork easily, so it might survive.

[malekbaba]

i read and it was true. Zcash affect the price of ETH and ETC badly. But what is new in ZEC ? Why the price is sky high ? I saw someone bought ZEC @1000 btc , even more. Are they insane ?