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August 27, 2016, 05:48:40 AM
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Could you please tell us about the browser and app you are planning to create. Are the Mass coins part of it? or is it something similar to Adblock or Brave browser?
I understand the value of Adblock and its big battle with Facebook whose only revenue is via advertisements, so too is Whatsapp, so any block to the advertisements is a huge blow to their revenue.
I only want to invest in a product, not just another ICO. I know a lot of folks here just want to make a quick buck as soon as its traded on the exchanges sadly.
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August 27, 2016, 07:23:33 AM
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Could you please tell us about the browser and app you are planning to create. Are the Mass coins part of it? or is it something similar to Adblock or Brave browser?
I understand the value of Adblock and its big battle with Facebook whose only revenue is via advertisements, so too is Whatsapp, so any block to the advertisements is a huge blow to their revenue.
I only want to invest in a product, not just another ICO. I know a lot of folks here just want to make a quick buck as soon as its traded on the exchanges sadly.


The browser is very similar to brave.com with the two major differences:  (1) while brave.com fences off regular advertisers (the entire RTB framework), Mass, on the contrary, want the to join and tune their behavior.

Ad&track blocking changes the paradigm of online advertising anyway. Some reshaping of the industry is inevitable. So we propose to adjust in time. The straight-forwards capitalist approach is the only viable one. Web users are sick and tired of them being used for free. So everybody has to take that into consideration.

You may not know this, but adblocking reach 50% share within the important user group — younger users under 29 in US and EU.
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August 27, 2016, 07:29:23 AM
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Could you please tell us about the browser and app you are planning to create. Are the Mass coins part of it? or is it something similar to Adblock or Brave browser?
I understand the value of Adblock and its big battle with Facebook whose only revenue is via advertisements, so too is Whatsapp, so any block to the advertisements is a huge blow to their revenue.
I only want to invest in a product, not just another ICO. I know a lot of folks here just want to make a quick buck as soon as its traded on the exchanges sadly.


The browser is very similar to brave.com with the two major differences:  (1) while brave.com fences off regular advertisers (the entire RTB framework), Mass, on the contrary, want the to join and tune their behavior.

Ad&track blocking changes the paradigm of online advertising anyway. Some reshaping of the industry is inevitable. So we propose to adjust in time. The straight-forwards capitalist approach is the only viable one. Web users are sick and tired of them being used for free. So everybody has to take that into consideration.

You may not know this, but adblocking reach 50% share within the important user group — younger users under 29 in US and EU.
So if you are planning to use your product with the advertisers, and the users have an option to opt-in in return for some form of payment?
What payment would that be? Give me a good reason why I should use Mass Network's product over the rest?
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August 27, 2016, 07:35:23 AM
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Could you please tell us about the browser and app you are planning to create. Are the Mass coins part of it? or is it something similar to Adblock or Brave browser?
I understand the value of Adblock and its big battle with Facebook whose only revenue is via advertisements, so too is Whatsapp, so any block to the advertisements is a huge blow to their revenue.
I only want to invest in a product, not just another ICO. I know a lot of folks here just want to make a quick buck as soon as its traded on the exchanges sadly.


Mass coins are needed to run the marketplace. Sorry about just providing a link instead of explaining, but can't make it any better.
The main ideas are: the internal currency is needed to make the economic relations within the system independent from external factors. Assets attached to a blockchain (as colored bitcoins) is the best option possible having no unneeded complexity and, therefore, instability.

https://mass.network/mass-coins.html
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August 27, 2016, 07:47:49 AM
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Could you please tell us about the browser and app you are planning to create. Are the Mass coins part of it? or is it something similar to Adblock or Brave browser?
I understand the value of Adblock and its big battle with Facebook whose only revenue is via advertisements, so too is Whatsapp, so any block to the advertisements is a huge blow to their revenue.
I only want to invest in a product, not just another ICO. I know a lot of folks here just want to make a quick buck as soon as its traded on the exchanges sadly.


The browser is very similar to brave.com with the two major differences:  (1) while brave.com fences off regular advertisers (the entire RTB framework), Mass, on the contrary, want the to join and tune their behavior.

Ad&track blocking changes the paradigm of online advertising anyway. Some reshaping of the industry is inevitable. So we propose to adjust in time. The straight-forwards capitalist approach is the only viable one. Web users are sick and tired of them being used for free. So everybody has to take that into consideration.

You may not know this, but adblocking reach 50% share within the important user group — younger users under 29 in US and EU.
So if you are planning to use your product with the advertisers, and the users have an option to opt-in in return for some form of payment?
What payment would that be? Give me a good reason why I should use Mass Network's product over the rest?

The good reason: there are only two browsers that pay for ordinary browsing: Mass and Brave, the latter being limited to its own ad network. How large can that network grow? We don't know. But we bet on changing the system from within not from outside.

What kind of money. Well, the total global annual ad revenue is like $10^12 order. Say, 90% of it is the real estate itself (actual time/places for ads), and only 10% is the surrounding infrastructure such as data management. Now. The owner of $10^11 starts to demand its share and acquires half of that. We have $5 x 10^10. Advertisers are interested in the "gold billion" (10^9 people). So, we have $5 x 10^2 for each user during the year.
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August 27, 2016, 08:11:26 AM
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Could you please tell us about the browser and app you are planning to create. Are the Mass coins part of it? or is it something similar to Adblock or Brave browser?
I understand the value of Adblock and its big battle with Facebook whose only revenue is via advertisements, so too is Whatsapp, so any block to the advertisements is a huge blow to their revenue.
I only want to invest in a product, not just another ICO. I know a lot of folks here just want to make a quick buck as soon as its traded on the exchanges sadly.


The browser is very similar to brave.com with the two major differences:  (1) while brave.com fences off regular advertisers (the entire RTB framework), Mass, on the contrary, want the to join and tune their behavior.

Ad&track blocking changes the paradigm of online advertising anyway. Some reshaping of the industry is inevitable. So we propose to adjust in time. The straight-forwards capitalist approach is the only viable one. Web users are sick and tired of them being used for free. So everybody has to take that into consideration.

You may not know this, but adblocking reach 50% share within the important user group — younger users under 29 in US and EU.
So if you are planning to use your product with the advertisers, and the users have an option to opt-in in return for some form of payment?
What payment would that be? Give me a good reason why I should use Mass Network's product over the rest?

The good reason: there are only two browsers that pay for ordinary browsing: Mass and Brave, the latter being limited to its own ad network. How large can that network grow? We don't know. But we bet on changing the system from within not from outside.

What kind of money. Well, the total global annual ad revenue is like $10^12 order. Say, 90% of it is the real estate itself (actual time/places for ads), and only 10% is the surrounding infrastructure such as data management. Now. The owner of $10^11 starts to demand its share and acquires half of that. We have $5 x 10^10. Advertisers are interested in the "gold billion" (10^9 people). So, we have $5 x 10^2 for each user during the year.

As for the link, my question based on the chart, should majority of the Mass coins should be purchased by the advertising market to pay for the users?
Advertising agencies or organizations don't have a fluctuating budget, as the coins do.
Second part about the browsers, its very critical to get not just plain websites to partner with you, but companies like Google, Facebook and Apple, who have their system for advertisers to leverage their system.
Whats the plan and is there any interest showed by any one of those 3 and if not how do you plan to go about it?
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August 27, 2016, 08:36:26 AM
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August 27, 2016, 08:46:38 AM
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Could you please tell us about the browser and app you are planning to create. Are the Mass coins part of it? or is it something similar to Adblock or Brave browser?
I understand the value of Adblock and its big battle with Facebook whose only revenue is via advertisements, so too is Whatsapp, so any block to the advertisements is a huge blow to their revenue.
I only want to invest in a product, not just another ICO. I know a lot of folks here just want to make a quick buck as soon as its traded on the exchanges sadly.


The browser is very similar to brave.com with the two major differences:  (1) while brave.com fences off regular advertisers (the entire RTB framework), Mass, on the contrary, want the to join and tune their behavior.

Ad&track blocking changes the paradigm of online advertising anyway. Some reshaping of the industry is inevitable. So we propose to adjust in time. The straight-forwards capitalist approach is the only viable one. Web users are sick and tired of them being used for free. So everybody has to take that into consideration.

You may not know this, but adblocking reach 50% share within the important user group — younger users under 29 in US and EU.
So if you are planning to use your product with the advertisers, and the users have an option to opt-in in return for some form of payment?
What payment would that be? Give me a good reason why I should use Mass Network's product over the rest?

The good reason: there are only two browsers that pay for ordinary browsing: Mass and Brave, the latter being limited to its own ad network. How large can that network grow? We don't know. But we bet on changing the system from within not from outside.

What kind of money. Well, the total global annual ad revenue is like $10^12 order. Say, 90% of it is the real estate itself (actual time/places for ads), and only 10% is the surrounding infrastructure such as data management. Now. The owner of $10^11 starts to demand its share and acquires half of that. We have $5 x 10^10. Advertisers are interested in the "gold billion" (10^9 people). So, we have $5 x 10^2 for each user during the year.

As for the link, my question based on the chart, should majority of the Mass coins should be purchased by the advertising market to pay for the users?
Advertising agencies or organizations don't have a fluctuating budget, as the coins do.
Second part about the browsers, its very critical to get not just plain websites to partner with you, but companies like Google, Facebook and Apple, who have their system for advertisers to leverage their system.
Whats the plan and is there any interest showed by any one of those 3 and if not how do you plan to go about it?

***should majority of Mass coins should be purchased by the advertising market to pay for the users?***
Coins will not be purchased and kept; they will circulate. It's hard to tell what type of owner what share to own eventually. Most probably it'll be more or less evenly distributed among the main groups of interests: (1) web users; (2) advertisers; (3)Mass market makers; (4) traders and investors.

***Advertising agencies or organizations don't have a fluctuating budget, as the coins do.***
They don't have to be loaded with coins all the time. Final prices for placements in USD or another local fiat will be regulated by ordinary demand/supply powers, thus, should be stable in fiat terms, since they compete in the fiat landscape.

***Second part about the browsers, its very critical to get not just plain websites to partner with you, but companies like Google, Facebook and Apple, who have their system for advertisers to leverage their system.***
It's not really correct to say that they have their own systems. They are quite deeply incorporated and dependent as everybody else, especially Google. Of course, size matters, but no part of our technology will follow the particular needs or expectations of a single giant.

***Whats the plan and is there any interest showed by any one of those 3 and if not how do you plan to go about it?***
We did not contact, neither we were approached. It most probably is not going to happen until some significant critical mass of users is achieved. But, let me emphasize it again, it's not our ideology to ransom a large player once we start to influence its income.
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August 27, 2016, 09:06:59 AM
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dev, When will the ico start ?  Smiley

It's on.
https://ico.mass.network/#/
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***Whats the plan and is there any interest showed by any one of those 3 and if not how do you plan to go about it?***
We did not contact, neither we were approached. It most probably is not going to happen until some significant critical mass of users is achieved. But, let me emphasize it again, it's not our ideology to ransom a large player once we start to influence its income.

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So fast? Whats the deadline? I cant load your site coz my internet is slow, only see a black page.

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August 27, 2016, 06:32:25 PM
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***Whats the plan and is there any interest showed by any one of those 3 and if not how do you plan to go about it?***
We did not contact, neither we were approached. It most probably is not going to happen until some significant critical mass of users is achieved. But, let me emphasize it again, it's not our ideology to ransom a large player once we start to influence its income.

So no market studies or evaluation ? I am asking these question because I have worked in media companies here in NA.
Has advisory board already seen whitepaper yet? Is anyone of them based in NA or working knowledge of the internet advertising market?
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***Whats the plan and is there any interest showed by any one of those 3 and if not how do you plan to go about it?***
We did not contact, neither we were approached. It most probably is not going to happen until some significant critical mass of users is achieved. But, let me emphasize it again, it's not our ideology to ransom a large player once we start to influence its income.

So no market studies or evaluation ? I am asking these question because I have worked in media companies here in NA.
Has advisory board already seen whitepaper yet? Is anyone of them based in NA or working knowledge of the internet advertising market?

Contacting Google or Apple does not add to market research. Yes, we made market research and we have people from both dev. team and adv. board who are currently engaged with RTB business.
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August 28, 2016, 07:23:52 AM
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Could you please tell us about the browser and app you are planning to create. Are the Mass coins part of it? or is it something similar to Adblock or Brave browser?

Sorry for later answer, I will tell some more details about what we are going to do.

First of all, we will extend http protocol so Mass software will tell important information about privacy rules to website. We expect, that other browsers like Brave or Cliqz will support our protocol extension. Protocol extensions will provide new ways for websites to pay user or get payment, order paid ad impression, etc..

Draft version of protocol extensions will be available in 1 week.

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I am interested in learning more about this project and potentially listing it on http://icocountdown.com

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Could you please tell us about the browser and app you are planning to create. Are the Mass coins part of it? or is it something similar to Adblock or Brave browser?

Sorry for later answer, I will tell some more details about what we are going to do.

First of all, we will extend http protocol so Mass users will tell important information about privacy rules to website. We expect, that other browsers like Brave or Cliqz will support our protocol extension. Then we will give some ways for websites to pay user or get payment, arrange paid ad show or something else.

Draft version of protocol extensions will be available in 1 week.

What about our products. We are going to be like Ubuntu in Debian World. Smiley Our first product arranged for late December — browser extension for blocking ads, user data settings and test micropayment system.


Any reason that we need to buy this? I mean any feature or function make your project unique? Like people buy eth ico for smart contract, maidsafe ico for decentralized network.

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Could you please tell us about the browser and app you are planning to create. Are the Mass coins part of it? or is it something similar to Adblock or Brave browser?

Sorry for later answer, I will tell some more details about what we are going to do.

First of all, we will extend http protocol so Mass users will tell important information about privacy rules to website. We expect, that other browsers like Brave or Cliqz will support our protocol extension. Then we will give some ways for websites to pay user or get payment, arrange paid ad show or something else.

Draft version of protocol extensions will be available in 1 week.

What about our products. We are going to be like Ubuntu in Debian World. Smiley Our first product arranged for late December — browser extension for blocking ads, user data settings and test micropayment system.


Any reason that we need to buy this? I mean any feature or function make your project unique? Like people buy eth ico for smart contract, maidsafe ico for decentralized network.

Mass is a narrowly focused system. Its function is to provide the efficient marketplace for advertising industry participants—crucial to note—including web users.

Web users are not only consumers any longer, but they are also SUPPLIERS of a major component, the data. Collectively, user data is more than the addition of individual packets; it's a classic case of "1+1=3" because Big Data growth must be fed with interconnections, graph layer information. Thus, consumers en masse represent the important system actor.
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I am interested in learning more about this project and potentially listing it on http://icocountdown.com

Please email me at: alex@icocountdown.com

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I am interested in learning more about this project and potentially listing it on http://icocountdown.com

Please email me at: alex@icocountdown.com

Skype: icocountdown

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Thanks for the talk seems like a very cool project!

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Could you please tell us about the browser and app you are planning to create. Are the Mass coins part of it? or is it something similar to Adblock or Brave browser?

Sorry for later answer, I will tell some more details about what we are going to do.

First of all, we will extend http protocol so Mass users will tell important information about privacy rules to website. We expect, that other browsers like Brave or Cliqz will support our protocol extension. Then we will give some ways for websites to pay user or get payment, arrange paid ad show or something else.

Draft version of protocol extensions will be available in 1 week.

What about our products. We are going to be like Ubuntu in Debian World. Smiley Our first product arranged for late December — browser extension for blocking ads, user data settings and test micropayment system.


Any reason that we need to buy this? I mean any feature or function make your project unique? Like people buy eth ico for smart contract, maidsafe ico for decentralized network.

Mass is a narrowly focused system. Its function is to provide the efficient marketplace for advertising industry participants—crucial to note—including web users.

Web users are not only consumers any longer, but they are also SUPPLIERS of a major component, the data. Collectively, user data is more than the addition of individual packets; it's a classic case of "1+1=3" because Big Data growth must be fed with interconnections, graph layer information. Thus, consumers en masse represent the important system actor.

Your project looks very professional, I can't get it, what is narrowly focused system?

So you mass network will be focus on advertising industry right?
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