[irregularities] Mass Network

[HomoHenning]

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

Where did you get the information about soon trade? Please more detail about the timing and platforms name?
'cause developers are silent.

from the Telegram group...

[DaddyH]

Hello.

This one:  http://www.ourdata.us/
is also a competitor to mass.network  I think.

I don't think mass is a serious project.

the troll again.
I am now very sure that you are not invested in this project. I guess somebody paid you for telling bad things about it.

This project his one of the serious ones out there now in this kind of stage. very professional mycelium team is working on it.

Maybe TO YOU someone paying for the flattering comments?
Around the ICO already so much dirt that your statements about "professional team" are simply absurd.

Homo is behaving like a paid shill. I have tokens and wouldn't care less if I wasn't being tricked out of my btc.

Homo I'll ask again. Why did you say you wanted out only a few weeks ago, to now being the biggest fan?

[DaddyH]

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

Where did you get the information about soon trade? Please more detail about the timing and platforms name?
'cause developers are silent.

from the Telegram group...

Post the link to this group or stop pretending it exists.

[gbdesai]

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

Where did you get the information about soon trade? Please more detail about the timing and platforms name?
'cause developers are silent.

from the Telegram group...

Post the link to this group or stop pretending it exists.

It exists, think they have a link on mass.network or even on ico-list.com.  Here is a relevant post.

[DaddyH]

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

Where did you get the information about soon trade? Please more detail about the timing and platforms name?
'cause developers are silent.

from the Telegram group...

Post the link to this group or stop pretending it exists.

It exists, think they have a link on mass.network or even on ico-list.com.  Here is a relevant post.

That picture above is likely fake. The only telegram links (on mass website or ici-list) are to the channel below a generic mass channel which hasn't updated since October.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong and provide the link to "mass dev group". Below is the screenshot of the out of date telegram channel and only published telegram link;

[tokyopotato]

DaddyH --


It's not fake. You can access it here: http://telegram.me/massdev


Just want you to know I agree 100% though with everything you are saying.  

I am so disappointed by Alex Pankov (pianist), Alexander Kuzmin, and others in this project who purposely misled this entire community, took our money, and walked away. It has really lowered my opinion of Mycelium and the entire cryptocurrency token industry, and all of the websites that promoted this project like ForkLog.Net, Bitcoin.Com, CoreMedia, Waves platform, and other Russian cryptocurrency projects involving anyone related to these guys. They just disappeared and now they say "Oh we don't have anything to do with this project, we don't know anything about it anymore, go talk to someone else"

They should return the money but this was our mistake to trust them in the first place.  God bless them for when you steal from people so obviously, there is a saying, "You shall reap what you sow."


*edit* If there is anyone still working on Mass Network --- you should really make an effort to communicate with the community.  Twitter, Facebook, Bitcointalk, the Mass Network blog.  Just give updates somewhere.  At least tell us you robbed us to our face rather than hide.

[Colba2016]

Well, it would be nice to have some kind of update.

I think it is premature to claim "robbery" but if any of you have any info to share, please PM me. It might be time for the ICO participants to organize.

[JReag]

DaddyH --


It's not fake. You can access it here: http://telegram.me/massdev


Just want you to know I agree 100% though with everything you are saying.  

I am so disappointed by Alex Pankov (pianist), Alexander Kuzmin, and others in this project who purposely misled this entire community, took our money, and walked away. It has really lowered my opinion of Mycelium and the entire cryptocurrency token industry, and all of the websites that promoted this project like ForkLog.Net, Bitcoin.Com, CoreMedia, Waves platform, and other Russian cryptocurrency projects involving anyone related to these guys. They just disappeared and now they say "Oh we don't have anything to do with this project, we don't know anything about it anymore, go talk to someone else"

They should return the money but this was our mistake to trust them in the first place.  God bless them for when you steal from people so obviously, there is a saying, "You shall reap what you sow."


*edit* If there is anyone still working on Mass Network --- you should really make an effort to communicate with the community.  Twitter, Facebook, Bitcointalk, the Mass Network blog.  Just give updates somewhere.  At least tell us you robbed us to our face rather than hide.

I decided to do my own research into what was going on for this project, and it doesn't appear the case is that they've abandoned the project.

It appears instead that they were expecting to get waaaay more funding than they actually did, but ended up so short that a lot of the staff ended up leaving. (Just in the few linked.in profiles I inspected.)

There are some connections that appear legit. Example

Alexander Kuzmin is a former Russian Mayor.  http://ura.ru/articles/1036255857

And the individual quoted from the mass group, Daniel Novichkov has ties to working in the Russian government as well...
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielnovichkov

These people fall into place as individuals who would likely know one another.

Their former director of marketing quit last month as can be seen here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-malley-1875484a?authType=name&authToken=I7P7&trk=prof-sb-browse_map-photo

However Sam Cheng Hung doesn't appear to have quit working with Mass, or simply hasn't updated his Linked.in
https://www.linkedin.com/in/samchenghung

It appears their marketing fell through and they're actually in scramble mode to try and get things situated. They delivered Mass Coin on time, so at least there's that.

Comms need to be improved but I do see signs as to why they might be lacking atm. Especially if they're working to get their new project onto exchanges. However, the lax communication policy likely doesn't help brew much confidence for their investors.


Anyways, I hope this helps answer some questions for concerned investors.

[Crypto Girl]

Well, it would be nice to have some kind of update.

I think it is premature to claim "robbery" but if any of you have any info to share, please PM me. It might be time for the ICO participants to organize.

need some credible evidence before it will be called a SCAM.

[Colba2016]

DaddyH --


It's not fake. You can access it here: http://telegram.me/massdev


Just want you to know I agree 100% though with everything you are saying.  

I am so disappointed by Alex Pankov (pianist), Alexander Kuzmin, and others in this project who purposely misled this entire community, took our money, and walked away. It has really lowered my opinion of Mycelium and the entire cryptocurrency token industry, and all of the websites that promoted this project like ForkLog.Net, Bitcoin.Com, CoreMedia, Waves platform, and other Russian cryptocurrency projects involving anyone related to these guys. They just disappeared and now they say "Oh we don't have anything to do with this project, we don't know anything about it anymore, go talk to someone else"

They should return the money but this was our mistake to trust them in the first place.  God bless them for when you steal from people so obviously, there is a saying, "You shall reap what you sow."


*edit* If there is anyone still working on Mass Network --- you should really make an effort to communicate with the community.  Twitter, Facebook, Bitcointalk, the Mass Network blog.  Just give updates somewhere.  At least tell us you robbed us to our face rather than hide.

I decided to do my own research into what was going on for this project, and it doesn't appear the case is that they've abandoned the project.

It appears instead that they were expecting to get waaaay more funding than they actually did, but ended up so short that a lot of the staff ended up leaving. (Just in the few linked.in profiles I inspected.)

There are some connections that appear legit. Example

Alexander Kuzmin is a former Russian Mayor.  http://ura.ru/articles/1036255857

And the individual quoted from the mass group, Daniel Novichkov has ties to working in the Russian government as well...
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielnovichkov

These people fall into place as individuals who would likely know one another.

Their former director of marketing quit last month as can be seen here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-malley-1875484a?authType=name&authToken=I7P7&trk=prof-sb-browse_map-photo

However Sam Cheng Hung doesn't appear to have quit working with Mass, or simply hasn't updated his Linked.in
https://www.linkedin.com/in/samchenghung

It appears their marketing fell through and they're actually in scramble mode to try and get things situated. They delivered Mass Coin on time, so at least there's that.

Comms need to be improved but I do see signs as to why they might be lacking atm. Especially if they're working to get their new project onto exchanges. However, the lax communication policy likely doesn't help brew much confidence for their investors.


Anyways, I hope this helps answer some questions for concerned investors.

Thank you. That's what I figured: internal turmoil.

Alexander Kuzmin was listed as an escrow holder and then the new CEO, so the buck stops there as far as I'm concerned. If the project can't move forward, a refund should be given for the full amount to each ICO participant. If things are reorganized and can move forward, all is fine. We just need an update soon.

Let's see how this develops.

[DaddyH]

DaddyH --


It's not fake. You can access it here: http://telegram.me/massdev


Just want you to know I agree 100% though with everything you are saying.  

I am so disappointed by Alex Pankov (pianist), Alexander Kuzmin, and others in this project who purposely misled this entire community, took our money, and walked away. It has really lowered my opinion of Mycelium and the entire cryptocurrency token industry, and all of the websites that promoted this project like ForkLog.Net, Bitcoin.Com, CoreMedia, Waves platform, and other Russian cryptocurrency projects involving anyone related to these guys. They just disappeared and now they say "Oh we don't have anything to do with this project, we don't know anything about it anymore, go talk to someone else"

They should return the money but this was our mistake to trust them in the first place.  God bless them for when you steal from people so obviously, there is a saying, "You shall reap what you sow."


*edit* If there is anyone still working on Mass Network --- you should really make an effort to communicate with the community.  Twitter, Facebook, Bitcointalk, the Mass Network blog.  Just give updates somewhere.  At least tell us you robbed us to our face rather than hide.

Thanks sir and I am happy to be corrected that this is a real channel. I'm still concerned by the lack of official presence here and agree they have behaved terribly.

[tokyopotato]

DaddyH --


It's not fake. You can access it here: http://telegram.me/massdev


Just want you to know I agree 100% though with everything you are saying.  

I am so disappointed by Alex Pankov (pianist), Alexander Kuzmin, and others in this project who purposely misled this entire community, took our money, and walked away. It has really lowered my opinion of Mycelium and the entire cryptocurrency token industry, and all of the websites that promoted this project like ForkLog.Net, Bitcoin.Com, CoreMedia, Waves platform, and other Russian cryptocurrency projects involving anyone related to these guys. They just disappeared and now they say "Oh we don't have anything to do with this project, we don't know anything about it anymore, go talk to someone else"

They should return the money but this was our mistake to trust them in the first place.  God bless them for when you steal from people so obviously, there is a saying, "You shall reap what you sow."


*edit* If there is anyone still working on Mass Network --- you should really make an effort to communicate with the community.  Twitter, Facebook, Bitcointalk, the Mass Network blog.  Just give updates somewhere.  At least tell us you robbed us to our face rather than hide.

I decided to do my own research into what was going on for this project, and it doesn't appear the case is that they've abandoned the project.

It appears instead that they were expecting to get waaaay more funding than they actually did, but ended up so short that a lot of the staff ended up leaving. (Just in the few linked.in profiles I inspected.)

There are some connections that appear legit. Example

Alexander Kuzmin is a former Russian Mayor.  http://ura.ru/articles/1036255857

And the individual quoted from the mass group, Daniel Novichkov has ties to working in the Russian government as well...
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielnovichkov

These people fall into place as individuals who would likely know one another.

Their former director of marketing quit last month as can be seen here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-malley-1875484a?authType=name&authToken=I7P7&trk=prof-sb-browse_map-photo

However Sam Cheng Hung doesn't appear to have quit working with Mass, or simply hasn't updated his Linked.in
https://www.linkedin.com/in/samchenghung

It appears their marketing fell through and they're actually in scramble mode to try and get things situated. They delivered Mass Coin on time, so at least there's that.

Comms need to be improved but I do see signs as to why they might be lacking atm. Especially if they're working to get their new project onto exchanges. However, the lax communication policy likely doesn't help brew much confidence for their investors.


Anyways, I hope this helps answer some questions for concerned investors.

Thank you. That's what I figured: internal turmoil.

Alexander Kuzmin was listed as an escrow holder and then the new CEO, so the buck stops there as far as I'm concerned. If the project can't move forward, a refund should be given for the full amount to each ICO participant. If things are reorganized and can move forward, all is fine. We just need an update soon.

Let's see how this develops.

Agree, and also appreciate this compiled information.

I will give it 3 months to see if they can develop the product and get Mass on exchange for trading.  If that doesn't happen, I will dig into it some more at that point.

[shirkan]

DaddyH --


It's not fake. You can access it here: http://telegram.me/massdev


Just want you to know I agree 100% though with everything you are saying.  

I am so disappointed by Alex Pankov (pianist), Alexander Kuzmin, and others in this project who purposely misled this entire community, took our money, and walked away. It has really lowered my opinion of Mycelium and the entire cryptocurrency token industry, and all of the websites that promoted this project like ForkLog.Net, Bitcoin.Com, CoreMedia, Waves platform, and other Russian cryptocurrency projects involving anyone related to these guys. They just disappeared and now they say "Oh we don't have anything to do with this project, we don't know anything about it anymore, go talk to someone else"

They should return the money but this was our mistake to trust them in the first place.  God bless them for when you steal from people so obviously, there is a saying, "You shall reap what you sow."


*edit* If there is anyone still working on Mass Network --- you should really make an effort to communicate with the community.  Twitter, Facebook, Bitcointalk, the Mass Network blog.  Just give updates somewhere.  At least tell us you robbed us to our face rather than hide.

I decided to do my own research into what was going on for this project, and it doesn't appear the case is that they've abandoned the project.

It appears instead that they were expecting to get waaaay more funding than they actually did, but ended up so short that a lot of the staff ended up leaving. (Just in the few linked.in profiles I inspected.)

There are some connections that appear legit. Example

Alexander Kuzmin is a former Russian Mayor.  http://ura.ru/articles/1036255857

And the individual quoted from the mass group, Daniel Novichkov has ties to working in the Russian government as well...
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielnovichkov

These people fall into place as individuals who would likely know one another.

Their former director of marketing quit last month as can be seen here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-malley-1875484a?authType=name&authToken=I7P7&trk=prof-sb-browse_map-photo

However Sam Cheng Hung doesn't appear to have quit working with Mass, or simply hasn't updated his Linked.in
https://www.linkedin.com/in/samchenghung

It appears their marketing fell through and they're actually in scramble mode to try and get things situated. They delivered Mass Coin on time, so at least there's that.

Comms need to be improved but I do see signs as to why they might be lacking atm. Especially if they're working to get their new project onto exchanges. However, the lax communication policy likely doesn't help brew much confidence for their investors.


Anyways, I hope this helps answer some questions for concerned investors.

Thank you. That's what I figured: internal turmoil.

Alexander Kuzmin was listed as an escrow holder and then the new CEO, so the buck stops there as far as I'm concerned. If the project can't move forward, a refund should be given for the full amount to each ICO participant. If things are reorganized and can move forward, all is fine. We just need an update soon.

Let's see how this develops.

Yes, internal turmoil is my best guess, too. I am quite active in the Waves community. And Sasha recently pointed out in Slack that Mycelium seems to be sorting out some internal stuff (he was asked how the announced partnership between Waves and Mycelium is coming along).

[Heutenamos]

You can't have an escrow if you got something that's valuable.  

Power is the biggest & worse of all addictions . Escrow gives me the satisfaction that you wont/cant get addicted

@massnetwork , do u now realize what i was saying back then ? had there been an escrow for the funds, u would have been forced to keep the people informed. But now u can simply show ur real asses as u got the bitcoins & as well as the tokens. Nice!

[HomoHenning]

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

Where did you get the information about soon trade? Please more detail about the timing and platforms name?
'cause developers are silent.

from the Telegram group...

Post the link to this group or stop pretending it exists.

It exists, think they have a link on mass.network or even on ico-list.com.  Here is a relevant post.

That picture above is likely fake. The only telegram links (on mass website or ici-list) are to the channel below a generic mass channel which hasn't updated since October.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong and provide the link to "mass dev group". Below is the screenshot of the out of date telegram channel and only published telegram link;

lol sure its a fake... you are paranoid

[robelneo]

DaddyH --


It's not fake. You can access it here: http://telegram.me/massdev


Just want you to know I agree 100% though with everything you are saying.  

I am so disappointed by Alex Pankov (pianist), Alexander Kuzmin, and others in this project who purposely misled this entire community, took our money, and walked away. It has really lowered my opinion of Mycelium and the entire cryptocurrency token industry, and all of the websites that promoted this project like ForkLog.Net, Bitcoin.Com, CoreMedia, Waves platform, and other Russian cryptocurrency projects involving anyone related to these guys. They just disappeared and now they say "Oh we don't have anything to do with this project, we don't know anything about it anymore, go talk to someone else"

They should return the money but this was our mistake to trust them in the first place.  God bless them for when you steal from people so obviously, there is a saying, "You shall reap what you sow."


*edit* If there is anyone still working on Mass Network --- you should really make an effort to communicate with the community.  Twitter, Facebook, Bitcointalk, the Mass Network blog.  Just give updates somewhere.  At least tell us you robbed us to our face rather than hide.

Thanks sir and I am happy to be corrected that this is a real channel. I'm still concerned by the lack of official presence here and agree they have behaved terribly.

I just don't understand why they behave like this,I'm sure they got a lot of investors coming from this forum,I even recommend this thread and signature campaign to one of my friend,but they are not posting any update here,it seems these people do not trust bitcointalk at all so they just ignore it throughout their ICO .

[Colba2016]

There are now 225 holders, so the distribution continues.  

http://coloredcoins.org/explorer/asset/La4szjzKfJyHQ75qgDEnbzp4qY8GQeDR5Z7h2W/ae69eee091b255f98a24107ce4a48bd544190c687ac84aaf4800bbc65db79594/2

And this looks like the address holding Mass Network's 30% share of the One Trillion Mass Coins:

http://coloredcoins.org/explorer/address/16rNecD1B5KjJF3PDqu2JGSw93WpdhLUZH

[DaddyH]

the question is is there a market for these shares? can i sell them for 100$. NO
Therefore this value is just pure air and a scam

mass is better and you can trade the mass coins soon

Where did you get the information about soon trade? Please more detail about the timing and platforms name?
'cause developers are silent.

from the Telegram group...

Post the link to this group or stop pretending it exists.

It exists, think they have a link on mass.network or even on ico-list.com.  Here is a relevant post.

That picture above is likely fake. The only telegram links (on mass website or ici-list) are to the channel below a generic mass channel which hasn't updated since October.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong and provide the link to "mass dev group". Below is the screenshot of the out of date telegram channel and only published telegram link;

lol sure its a fake... you are paranoid

Thanks for offering nothing to this debate. You are a waste of pixels.

I'll be posting an update on this later today

[coin-investor]

I have added the extension,there's much reviews on th site and I don't know how I can earn from this extension,because there are no sign up form compare to ourdata.us ,I will experiment between the two who has the better features and compensation.

[tokyopotato]

I have added the extension,there's much reviews on th site and I don't know how I can earn from this extension,because there are no sign up form compare to ourdata.us ,I will experiment between the two who has the better features and compensation.

Currently, ad earning is not in place for Mass Network yet.  It is in preliminary development from what I can see.

https://github.com/massnetwork/

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mass-fair-ads/bddciihmfgjplmgdjnnekkfiefbleipp

Interesting that ourdata.us is a b-corp.  I don't like the idea of creating an account with OurData.Us and giving them any private information.  I would prefer to use Mass or BTC payments without the need to create an account.