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June 02, 2018, 01:48:34 AM
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Thanks guys!

So if I understand correctly, with that price (25KMD per DEX coin) the annual return would be about 0.001% at today's prices and volume. (Coinmarketcap has BarterDEX at $2600 volume last 24h)

BarterDEX would have to surpass around $12 million per day in volume before the return for holding a DEX coin would surpass the 5% return for KMD.
($12M) x (.15% x 50%) / (1M token supply) x (365 days)  / ($62.5 price of DEX coin) = 5.26%

We've got a long way to go, but there is plenty of volume on the table.  Over $15 billion has been traded during last 24h according to coinmarketcap.  IDEX had over $11 million in volume.


The KMD 5% is inflation whereas the DEX payouts are earnings or revenue, and that is a huge difference. Don't get me wrong, the KMD inflation serves a great function during these bootstrapping years, but DEX assets pass the Warren Buffett investment test , invest in great business' that pay dividends but for some reason are hugely undervalued. Buffet doesn't understand crypto, but his dislike is based on the same reason he doesn't like gold; no earnings, no dividends.

DEX is probably the best asset in the cryptosphere, real income paid as dividends from a great service charging fair and reasonable fees, no inflation or smoke and mirrors tricks, it really does pass the Buffet test!
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Thanks guys!

So if I understand correctly, with that price (25KMD per DEX coin) the annual return would be about 0.001% at today's prices and volume. (Coinmarketcap has BarterDEX at $2600 volume last 24h)

BarterDEX would have to surpass around $12 million per day in volume before the return for holding a DEX coin would surpass the 5% return for KMD.
($12M) x (.15% x 50%) / (1M token supply) x (365 days)  / ($62.5 price of DEX coin) = 5.26%

We've got a long way to go, but there is plenty of volume on the table.  Over $15 billion has been traded during last 24h according to coinmarketcap.  IDEX had over $11 million in volume.


The KMD 5% is inflation whereas the DEX payouts are earnings or revenue, and that is a huge difference. Don't get me wrong, the KMD inflation serves a great function during these bootstrapping years, but DEX assets pass the Warren Buffett investment test , invest in great business' that pay dividends but for some reason are hugely undervalued. Buffet doesn't understand crypto, but his dislike is based on the same reason he doesn't like gold; no earnings, no dividends.

DEX is probably the best asset in the cryptosphere, real income paid as dividends from a great service charging fair and reasonable fees, no inflation or smoke and mirrors tricks, it really does pass the Buffet test!

I agree and I'm interested in owning some.  I just feel like today's price should be more like 5KMD instead of 25KMD.  Then, of course if KMD gets more recognition, it will gain in value.
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June 02, 2018, 04:07:09 AM
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Thanks guys!

So if I understand correctly, with that price (25KMD per DEX coin) the annual return would be about 0.001% at today's prices and volume. (Coinmarketcap has BarterDEX at $2600 volume last 24h)

BarterDEX would have to surpass around $12 million per day in volume before the return for holding a DEX coin would surpass the 5% return for KMD.
($12M) x (.15% x 50%) / (1M token supply) x (365 days)  / ($62.5 price of DEX coin) = 5.26%

We've got a long way to go, but there is plenty of volume on the table.  Over $15 billion has been traded during last 24h according to coinmarketcap.  IDEX had over $11 million in volume.


The KMD 5% is inflation whereas the DEX payouts are earnings or revenue, and that is a huge difference. Don't get me wrong, the KMD inflation serves a great function during these bootstrapping years, but DEX assets pass the Warren Buffett investment test , invest in great business' that pay dividends but for some reason are hugely undervalued. Buffet doesn't understand crypto, but his dislike is based on the same reason he doesn't like gold; no earnings, no dividends.

DEX is probably the best asset in the cryptosphere, real income paid as dividends from a great service charging fair and reasonable fees, no inflation or smoke and mirrors tricks, it really does pass the Buffet test!



I agree and I'm interested in owning some.  I just feel like today's price should be more like 5KMD instead of 25KMD.  Then, of course if KMD gets more recognition, it will gain in value.

Scarce Supply with extremely long term holders ( think 3+ years ) and the revenue stream just started to turn on.  That's why its 25 KMD and there isn't much for sale,   I can only see it going up in price. 

Oh and regarding CMC BarterDEX volumes,  not all trades pairs are listed and its only capturing netid0 non-private trades.
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June 02, 2018, 04:18:44 AM
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Thanks guys!

So if I understand correctly, with that price (25KMD per DEX coin) the annual return would be about 0.001% at today's prices and volume. (Coinmarketcap has BarterDEX at $2600 volume last 24h)

BarterDEX would have to surpass around $12 million per day in volume before the return for holding a DEX coin would surpass the 5% return for KMD.
($12M) x (.15% x 50%) / (1M token supply) x (365 days)  / ($62.5 price of DEX coin) = 5.26%

We've got a long way to go, but there is plenty of volume on the table.  Over $15 billion has been traded during last 24h according to coinmarketcap.  IDEX had over $11 million in volume.


The KMD 5% is inflation whereas the DEX payouts are earnings or revenue, and that is a huge difference. Don't get me wrong, the KMD inflation serves a great function during these bootstrapping years, but DEX assets pass the Warren Buffett investment test , invest in great business' that pay dividends but for some reason are hugely undervalued. Buffet doesn't understand crypto, but his dislike is based on the same reason he doesn't like gold; no earnings, no dividends.

DEX is probably the best asset in the cryptosphere, real income paid as dividends from a great service charging fair and reasonable fees, no inflation or smoke and mirrors tricks, it really does pass the Buffet test!



I agree and I'm interested in owning some.  I just feel like today's price should be more like 5KMD instead of 25KMD.  Then, of course if KMD gets more recognition, it will gain in value.

Scarce Supply with extremely long term holders ( think 3+ years ) and the revenue stream just started to turn on.  That's why its 25 KMD and there isn't much for sale,   I can only see it going up in price.  

Oh and regarding CMC BarterDEX volumes,  not all trades pairs are listed and its only capturing netid0 non-private trades.

The DEX investors are some of the longest hodlers in the cryptosphere, literally sitting on these assets for +3 years so the available supply to purchase is miniscule, and the discounted net present value of the future dividend streams from BarterDEX over the coming years will be absolutely huge. DEX assets could easily earn millions of $$ of revenue shares each over their lifetime, even if barterDEX captures just 1% of trade volume, but crypto is doing volumes in the trillions.

Combine hodl whales with the revenue and dividend potential, and +25 KMD is still a great price. Imagine buying an asic that mined bitcoin forever with no electricity or other costs, and never became obsolete, just sat there generating an income stream for as long as crypto was being traded, that's what you get owning DEX.
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June 02, 2018, 04:48:05 AM
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Are the Komodo Team working with Hush Team?
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June 02, 2018, 08:59:44 AM
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Hi, I read the jl777 Q&A on reddit and I just learned that DEX profits go to the DEX coin hodlers.  Where can I find out more about this?  I looked all through komodoplatform.com and couldn't find anything.  Are there any other coins in the Komodo ecosystem (besides KMD) that are useful?

Check this documentation

https://komodoplatform.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/KPSD/pages/302940161/DEX+compensation+distribution.

Thanks!

So, if a person holds these asset coins in their Agama wallet, will the rewards be automatically added to their KMD balance?

Would the rewards for 1 DEX coin look like this?: (# of KMD traded on BarterDEX) x (0.15% x 50%) / (# of total DEX coins)

What is the total supply of DEX coins?

There aren't any in Barterdex for sale...

Thanks for your help


- Yes the dividends will be paid to the KMD Address

- Simply said yes. The DEX fee is 1/777 of relvolume so if you buy DEX for KMD (DEX/KMD pair) you pay 1/777 KMD approx 0.15% as a fee this fee is distributed 50% to DEX holders

- The total supply is 1'000'000 DEX Coins

- There are sometimes a few up for grabs https://dexstats.info/gui/index.php?base=DEX&rel=KMD
Also there are some people willing to sell for a particular price join the slack in #trading and ask



If anybody is interested in purchasing assets in bulk (min. 1000 KMD or 1BTC), PM me. current prices in KMD are:

Code:
{"result":"success","base":"REVS","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":2.62061568,"ask":2.89032136,"price":2.75546852}
{"result":"success","base":"CHIPS","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":0.14285714,"ask":0.15000000,"price":0.14642857}
{"result":"success","base":"KMD","rel":"BTC","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":0.00032480,"ask":0.00035815,"price":0.00034147}
{"result":"success","base":"SUPERNET","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":36.03040474,"ask":39.72708326,"price":37.87874400}
{"result":"success","base":"CRYPTO","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":7.50615752,"ask":8.25652390,"price":7.88134071}
{"result":"success","base":"DEX","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":25.38831589,"ask":27.99871831,"price":26.69351710}
{"result":"success","base":"BOTS","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":7.41835340,"ask":8.18169401,"price":7.80002371}
{"result":"success","base":"MGW","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":1.81488195,"ask":2.00163698,"price":1.90825946}
{"result":"success","base":"BET","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":2.11110733,"ask":2.32215315,"price":2.21663024}
{"result":"success","base":"PANGEA","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":2.81480978,"ask":3.09619646,"price":2.95550312}
{"result":"success","base":"HODL","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":0.55556681,"ask":0.61256407,"price":0.58406544}
{"result":"success","base":"MSHARK","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":5.97027082,"ask":6.58242872,"price":6.27634977}

None left: {"result":"success","base":"JUMBLR","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":7.42038919,"ask":8.18396437,"price":7.80217678}
most of the assets have a very limited supply of 1 million. REVS has 1.3 mil, MSHARK 1.4 mil, HODL 10 mil, SUPERNET 777,777

I believe all the rest are at 1 million total supply.

Hi, i would like to buy some DEX with KMD and spread the frenchie about the future of decentralized exchange doing an atomic swap. i still bought some oot with kmd (with the OOTdapp), but would like to know if i can find all this assets directly on barterdex and buy through an atomic swapp.

my question is: can i buy some DEX on barterdex directly ?

Thank's for your answer.

Best regards


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June 02, 2018, 09:42:26 AM
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Yes you can buy the DEX Asset on Barterdex
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June 02, 2018, 12:25:58 PM
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nice , so in couple of years komodo will be a top project with milions of users.
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June 03, 2018, 08:48:54 AM
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Hi, I read the jl777 Q&A on reddit and I just learned that DEX profits go to the DEX coin hodlers.  Where can I find out more about this?  I looked all through komodoplatform.com and couldn't find anything.  Are there any other coins in the Komodo ecosystem (besides KMD) that are useful?

Check this documentation

https://komodoplatform.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/KPSD/pages/302940161/DEX+compensation+distribution.

Thanks!

So, if a person holds these asset coins in their Agama wallet, will the rewards be automatically added to their KMD balance?

Would the rewards for 1 DEX coin look like this?: (# of KMD traded on BarterDEX) x (0.15% x 50%) / (# of total DEX coins)

What is the total supply of DEX coins?

There aren't any in Barterdex for sale...

Thanks for your help


- Yes the dividends will be paid to the KMD Address

- Simply said yes. The DEX fee is 1/777 of relvolume so if you buy DEX for KMD (DEX/KMD pair) you pay 1/777 KMD approx 0.15% as a fee this fee is distributed 50% to DEX holders

- The total supply is 1'000'000 DEX Coins

- There are sometimes a few up for grabs https://dexstats.info/gui/index.php?base=DEX&rel=KMD
Also there are some people willing to sell for a particular price join the slack in #trading and ask



If anybody is interested in purchasing assets in bulk (min. 1000 KMD or 1BTC), PM me. current prices in KMD are:

Code:
{"result":"success","base":"REVS","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":2.62061568,"ask":2.89032136,"price":2.75546852}
{"result":"success","base":"CHIPS","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":0.14285714,"ask":0.15000000,"price":0.14642857}
{"result":"success","base":"KMD","rel":"BTC","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":0.00032480,"ask":0.00035815,"price":0.00034147}
{"result":"success","base":"SUPERNET","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":36.03040474,"ask":39.72708326,"price":37.87874400}
{"result":"success","base":"CRYPTO","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":7.50615752,"ask":8.25652390,"price":7.88134071}
{"result":"success","base":"DEX","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":25.38831589,"ask":27.99871831,"price":26.69351710}
{"result":"success","base":"BOTS","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":7.41835340,"ask":8.18169401,"price":7.80002371}
{"result":"success","base":"MGW","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":1.81488195,"ask":2.00163698,"price":1.90825946}
{"result":"success","base":"BET","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":2.11110733,"ask":2.32215315,"price":2.21663024}
{"result":"success","base":"PANGEA","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":2.81480978,"ask":3.09619646,"price":2.95550312}
{"result":"success","base":"HODL","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":0.55556681,"ask":0.61256407,"price":0.58406544}
{"result":"success","base":"MSHARK","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":5.97027082,"ask":6.58242872,"price":6.27634977}

None left: {"result":"success","base":"JUMBLR","rel":"KMD","timestamp":1527851164,"bid":7.42038919,"ask":8.18396437,"price":7.80217678}
most of the assets have a very limited supply of 1 million. REVS has 1.3 mil, MSHARK 1.4 mil, HODL 10 mil, SUPERNET 777,777

I believe all the rest are at 1 million total supply.

Hi, i would like to buy some DEX with KMD and spread the frenchie about the future of decentralized exchange doing an atomic swap. i still bought some oot with kmd (with the OOTdapp), but would like to know if i can find all this assets directly on barterdex and buy through an atomic swapp.

my question is: can i buy some DEX on barterdex directly ?

Thank's for your answer.

Best regards


-> https://utrum.io/ico/register/?ref=bdyT2

You are able to use the coins on the BarterDEX and some are also available on HyperDEX.
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Komodo is a decentralised, open-source cryptocurrency. It was launched in September 2016 and has evolved from BitcoinDark (BTCD) and is developed by the same developer (“jl777”). However, the underlying software was forked from Zcash. The new cryptocurrency runs on the SuperNET platform, using SuperNET’s infrastructure and software applications.
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good read, hope the best for the both projects.
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Same here.

Hope the liquidity increases. It has been on a downward trend
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June 05, 2018, 12:16:04 PM
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So many coins are vulnerable. Komodo is a good choice for projects that do not have a strong network. I think in the future some of the coins are integrated with the Komodo platform.
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Komodo is a decentralised, open-source cryptocurrency. It was launched in September 2016 and has evolved from BitcoinDark (BTCD) and is developed by the same developer (“jl777”). However, the underlying software was forked from Zcash. The new cryptocurrency runs on the SuperNET platform, using SuperNET’s infrastructure and software applications.

He made KMD platform to become a quite strong competitor in the cryptocurrency and after 2 years born, Many big investors got a big attention and  joined it and I believe that KMD will be a future cryptocurrency for payment and circulation .
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The ability to protect a PoW operated crypto currency via notarization by Komodo has blown me away. Gamecredit took the bold step to incorporate Komodo's notarization to protect its network from double spend attacks that is rampant on PoW .

Understand I this is a historical moment one chain helping secure another chain. What is in it for Komodo? How much does it make off of notary as a service? This is a revenue generator for Komodo?
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The ability to protect a PoW operated crypto currency via notarization by Komodo has blown me away. Gamecredit took the bold step to incorporate Komodo's notarization to protect its network from double spend attacks that is rampant on PoW .

Understand I this is a historical moment one chain helping secure another chain. What is in it for Komodo? How much does it make off of notary as a service? This is a revenue generator for Komodo?

Notarization fees goto CRYPTO asset holders.  Which gets paid out in KMD.  Each chain that wants to use it needs 100ish KMD a year.  Notaries do not make anything off the service except the transaction fees for the notarization.   This is a "demand" generator ,  Komodo itself does not generate revenue,  it services pay out to their respective asset holders.

In 2018,  10000 chains being secured by DPoW may seem ridiculous,  but if the rate of growth of blockchain usage continues the way it has ,10000 may only even be 1% of the chains in existence in the not too distant future.  ( Figuring a million coin market demand is "reasonable" )
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any reason there are 120 confirmations needed on binance when you make deposit of your kmd?

Coins will be deposited immediately after 120 network confirmations
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