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[ComputerGenie]

...it ain't 10x no more bro

so true, it's only at 37x for the last 15 months

Komodo Komodo (KMD)
$1.79 USD (-5.04%)
0.00026719 BTC (-4.43%)
...

Looking at a 1 day market (half of which is a 3 market pseudo value) to compare to a 15 month quote? how do you even manage to tie your own shoes? Kindly go back to your troll-hole and stay there with your unSafe friends....

[hiphoptrail]

...it ain't 10x no more bro

so true, it's only at 37x for the last 15 months

Komodo Komodo (KMD)
$1.79 USD (-5.04%)
0.00026719 BTC (-4.43%)
...

Looking at a 1 day market (half of which is a 3 market pseudo value) to compare to a 15 month quote? how do you even manage to tie your own shoes? Kindly go back to your troll-hole and stay there with your unSafe friends....

ha,ha,ha...how's your dust weenie? Go back and fight with people on slack...oh no, you are ousted! ---can't hide anymore weenie!

[dollux]

I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone dumping their bags at a loss because they have an issue with 1 GUI out of the dozens of platform projects; I promise that when the market goes back up, I'll spend the profits you're giving up on so many nice things for myself. 

Yup, I will second that.

[hiphoptrail]

I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone dumping their bags at a loss because they have an issue with 1 GUI out of the dozens of platform projects; I promise that when the market goes back up, I'll spend the profits you're giving up on so many nice things for myself. 

Yup, I will second that.

too bad your voice and your pockets don't carry any weight. Try and invest to the level we are then you can have a seat at the table, until then...stfu.  thanks

[dollux]

I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone dumping their bags at a loss because they have an issue with 1 GUI out of the dozens of platform projects; I promise that when the market goes back up, I'll spend the profits you're giving up on so many nice things for myself.  

Yup, I will second that.

too bad your voice and your pockets don't carry any weight. Try and invest to the level we are then you can have a seat at the table, until then...stfu.  thanks

Yup, not even real just virtual.

[ComputerGenie]

Yup, not even real just virtual.

LOL the bunny is fun to play with, but impossible to take serious; I'm still waiting for him to sign a message with an addy that holds "seven figures".....

[RichardT]

A little food for thought. I like looking at historical price data to assess a project.
 
Exactly 1 year ago on June 21, 2017, KMD price was around $2.11 while BTC price was $2700.  KMD volume at this time was around 1.2 mil.

Today, KMD price is around $1.81 and BTC is at around $6700. KMD volume is currently about $300k.

So was KMD overvalued 1 year ago or incredibly undervalued today?  Alot of good things have happened in a year for KMD. Much improved wallet, release of BarterDEX, 3 DICOs going with more to come, plus many more things in the pipeline.  Bottom line is great, working tech.

Next question is, if KMD is undervalued, then why?  Is the market really that stupid or is it another issue?  The tech is sound, so should this be a wake up call for the marketing team?  I don't know.  Just something to think about.

Part of what you're not taking into account is that all markets went, pretty much, insane just before the time of your base comparison.
Once you get past that, you should ignore the pseudo USD price of combining mutiple markets to arrive at a "price" that's not truely a legitimate value.

Now, let's look at real markets:
March 14, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00000751
April 14, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00011952
Dec 11, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00018155
June 20, 2018 - KMD/BTC - 0.00027889

Plot it all on a realistic trendline and you get:


Even the massive "crashes" that amount to nothing more than realistic corrections end up on an upward trend.

Where did you obtain those numbers?  They don't seem to correlate with what's on CMC. Also seems a bit like you're cherry picking dates to make your data look like what you want.  I'm simply just comparing today to exactly one year ago to make a point that even though KMD has advanced so much tech-wise, the price has gone the opposite direction in terms of BTC.  

I'm not trying to FUD.  Was just wanting to strike up a conversation and see if anyone could come up with a good reason/solution.  Not sure where all these fudders suddenly came out from. Reminds me of why I don't hang out in these forums much anymore.

[ComputerGenie]

...Where did you obtain those numbers?  They don't seem to correlate with what's on CMC...

Then you CMC wrong, because that's where the chart and numbers came from (although I added the physical trendline).

...I'm simply just comparing today to exactly one year ago to make a point that even though KMD has advanced so much tech-wise, the price has gone the opposite direction in terms of BTC. ...

And, like I said, you're starting from a point in time that was still an irrational market and not taking that into account.

[okie dokie]

I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone dumping their bags at a loss because they have an issue with 1 GUI out of the dozens of platform projects; I promise that when the market goes back up, I'll spend the profits you're giving up on so many nice things for myself.  

Yup, I will second that.

Martin Armstrong's model is calling a bitcoin directional change in July. Looks like we might be right at or near the bottom. Kinda a funny time to sell seeing as how everything has been rising and falling as one asset class.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrencies-down-into-july/

[hiphoptrail]

Yup, not even real just virtual.

LOL the bunny is fun to play with, but impossible to take serious; I'm still waiting for him to sign a message with an addy that holds "seven figures".....

How about this weenie, Put up your so called 250K and if I don't produce, you win. When I produce showing 7 figures - how about 8, I get your dust of 250k.

Bring it on weenie!

[RichardT]

...Where did you obtain those numbers?  They don't seem to correlate with what's on CMC...

Then you CMC wrong, because that's where the chart and numbers came from (although I added the physical trendline).

...I'm simply just comparing today to exactly one year ago to make a point that even though KMD has advanced so much tech-wise, the price has gone the opposite direction in terms of BTC. ...

And, like I said, you're starting from a point in time that was still an irrational market and not taking that into account.

I don't think so. For instance, March 14th 2017 shows that KMD was around 30k sats. Not the 750 sats that you stated (I don't think KMD was ever close to being this low). Also, what makes you say that June 21st 2017 was during an irrational market?  Is the market not irrational today? Are the dates that you specifically picked not irrational?  Just wondering.

[cmg777]

I don't think so. For instance, March 14th 2017 shows that KMD was around 30k sats. Not the 750 sats that you stated (I don't think KMD was ever close to being this low). Also, what makes you say that June 21st 2017 was during an irrational market?  Is the market not irrational today? Are the dates that you specifically picked not irrational?  Just wondering.

I think ComputerGenie was off by a zero. I think he meant 7.5K sats. KMD all-time low is 3K sats with an all-time high of 93K sats, according to CoinMarketCap.com.

[ComputerGenie]

I think ComputerGenie was off by a zero. I think he meant 7.5K sats. KMD all-time low is 3K sats with an all-time high of 93K sats, according to CoinMarketCap.com.

Stop trying to think; you're apparently not good at it:


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[ComputerGenie]

I don't think so. For instance, March 14th 2017 shows that KMD was around 30k sats. Not the 750 sats that you stated (I don't think KMD was ever close to being this low). Also, what makes you say that June 21st 2017 was during an irrational market?  Is the market not irrational today? Are the dates that you specifically picked not irrational?  Just wondering.

See above for the 1st part of how you're wrong.
As for the rest, between May 15 and June 15 2017, nearly every market irrationally "exploded" to new ATH levels. The majority of the markets today are still overvalued and the dates that I picked represent a realistic trendline that ignores both irrational and hype spikes that don't matter to any long term value.

[Microcoin jxk]

What we as the community of BTCD should do is to ask for the ICO funds for ourselves as a DAO and only pay to jl777 for the actual work he does (if any). That way the funds would remain in the hands of the community. In addition, BTCD should still be renamed to Komodo because BTCD needs a better name.

[RichardT]

I don't think so. For instance, March 14th 2017 shows that KMD was around 30k sats. Not the 750 sats that you stated (I don't think KMD was ever close to being this low). Also, what makes you say that June 21st 2017 was during an irrational market?  Is the market not irrational today? Are the dates that you specifically picked not irrational?  Just wondering.

See above for the 1st part of how you're wrong.
As for the rest, between May 15 and June 15 2017, nearly every market irrationally "exploded" to new ATH levels. The majority of the markets today are still overvalued and the dates that I picked represent a realistic trendline that ignores both irrational and hype spikes that don't matter to any long term value.

Ok. So I guess let's just completely ignore the December 2017 hype when KMD and pretty much everything else was on its way up to its respective ATH?  You used December 11 as one your plot points.

You say most markets are still overvalued today.  Doesn't that suggest that the market is still irrational today? You also used today as one of your plot points.

[hiphoptrail]

I would to know why has komodo been under attack more than other projects? How many enemies does 777 have from the nxt days?

[kaicrypzen]

A little food for thought. I like looking at historical price data to assess a project.
 
Exactly 1 year ago on June 21, 2017, KMD price was around $2.11 while BTC price was $2700.  KMD volume at this time was around 1.2 mil.

Today, KMD price is around $1.81 and BTC is at around $6700. KMD volume is currently about $300k.

So was KMD overvalued 1 year ago or incredibly undervalued today?  Alot of good things have happened in a year for KMD. Much improved wallet, release of BarterDEX, 3 DICOs going with more to come, plus many more things in the pipeline.  Bottom line is great, working tech.

Next question is, if KMD is undervalued, then why?  Is the market really that stupid or is it another issue?  The tech is sound, so should this be a wake up call for the marketing team?  I don't know.  Just something to think about.

Part of what you're not taking into account is that all markets went, pretty much, insane just before the time of your base comparison.
Once you get past that, you should ignore the pseudo USD price of combining mutiple markets to arrive at a "price" that's not truely a legitimate value.

Now, let's look at real markets:
March 14, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00000751
April 14, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00011952
Dec 11, 2017 - KMD/BTC - 0.00018155
June 20, 2018 - KMD/BTC - 0.00027889

Plot it all on a realistic trendline and you get:


Even the massive "crashes" that amount to nothing more than realistic corrections end up on an upward trend.

Where did you obtain those numbers?  They don't seem to correlate with what's on CMC. Also seems a bit like you're cherry picking dates to make your data look like what you want.  I'm simply just comparing today to exactly one year ago to make a point that even though KMD has advanced so much tech-wise, the price has gone the opposite direction in terms of BTC.  

I'm not trying to FUD.  Was just wanting to strike up a conversation and see if anyone could come up with a good reason/solution.  Not sure where all these fudders suddenly came out from. Reminds me of why I don't hang out in these forums much anymore.

RichardT the numbers do correlate with what's on CMC.
ComputerGenie why do you actually consider only the lows to be the real market?
And concerning that 750 sat low, it's one of two things: Either it's a glitch in the chart, or, more likely, is related to the hack that happened back in the days when KMD was listed on cryptox.pl and some entity generated fake coins and dumped them there. That's actually the least rational value of that chart.

[ComputerGenie]

...ComputerGenie why do you actually consider only the lows to be the real market?
And concerning that 750 sat low, it's one of two things: Either it's a glitch in the chart, or, more likely, is related to the hack that happened back in the days when KMD was listed on cryptox.pl and some entity generated fake coins and dumped them there. That's actually the least rational value of that chart.

Even if we assume that the 750 is a data anomaly and we pick another March date (or even walk it back further to the Feb 2017 that were much higher than March) as a replacement, the overall trendline doesn't change much.
When you take out the "noise" of the entire space suddenly "mooning", alt inversion to BTC in Sept., and non-normal actions that December brought, you're left with something that may "look like" cherry-picking lows; however, early Dec is a near perfect retracement on any trendline one places from pre-June '17 to now.

Every non-noise trendline points to upward movement. We could argue all day if that movement is 2x BTC, 3x BTC, or 12x BTC/USD (depending on points of data and/or valuation), but the fact remains that all markets suck right now in comparison to some historical date. Since we're stuck trying to swim with the BTC rock around our necks, one could ask why it's sunk to less than 1/3 of what it was 6 months ago and dragging those tied to it with it.

The reality is that no matter what conclusion you come to or what your basis for evaluation is, it's always going to be provably wrong in someone else's view because every bit of it is based on multiple markets daisy-chained together that sometimes move together, sometimes move independent, and sometimes move as a complete inverse and and no time has any rational explanation as to why which is which.

[hiphoptrail]

...ComputerGenie why do you actually consider only the lows to be the real market?
And concerning that 750 sat low, it's one of two things: Either it's a glitch in the chart, or, more likely, is related to the hack that happened back in the days when KMD was listed on cryptox.pl and some entity generated fake coins and dumped them there. That's actually the least rational value of that chart.

Even if we assume that the 750 is a data anomaly and we pick another March date (or even walk it back further to the Feb 2017 that were much higher than March) as a replacement, the overall trendline doesn't change much.
When you take out the "noise" of the entire space suddenly "mooning", alt inversion to BTC in Sept., and non-normal actions that December brought, you're left with something that may "look like" cherry-picking lows; however, early Dec is a near perfect retracement on any trendline one places from pre-June '17 to now.

Every non-noise trendline points to upward movement. We could argue all day if that movement is 2x BTC, 3x BTC, or 12x BTC/USD (depending on points of data and/or valuation), but the fact remains that all markets suck right now in comparison to some historical date. Since we're stuck trying to swim with the BTC rock around our necks, one could ask why it's sunk to less than 1/3 of what it was 6 months ago and dragging those tied to it with it.

The reality is that no matter what conclusion you come to or what your basis for evaluation is, it's always going to be provably wrong in someone else's view because every bit of it is based on multiple markets daisy-chained together that sometimes move together, sometimes move independent, and sometimes move as a complete inverse and and no time has any rational explanation as to why which is which.

Hey weenie, I know liquidity is foreign to your ass stained fruit of the loons but I suggest you give it a try and move out of momma's basement. Your flawed logic shows that you are young and have no real world life experiences.