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November 16, 2016, 07:44:19 PM
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November 16, 2016, 07:54:38 PM
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Thank you for your comments. We understand that you might be unhappy with the current rating. If you think that our express report contains inaccuracies and omissions, we’d be happy to listen to your arguments.

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No guys - wrong. This is on you. I am prepared to give you an opportunity to improve your analysis if you can demonstrate to me that you are prepared to do your homework and then establish communications with me to garner my personal insight. After that you can, of course, make up your own minds.

This is, I stress, a one time offer.

In the meantime, it would do your credibility no harm to publish details of your own profiles, backgrounds and qualifications on your own website.

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November 16, 2016, 08:43:41 PM
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The ICO phase is nearing to its end date and I'm actually excited for it. Trading for this token will only be available in Waves Platform, is that correct?

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November 16, 2016, 08:57:39 PM
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The ICO phase is nearing to its end date and I'm actually excited for it. Trading for this token will only be available in Waves Platform, is that correct?

Initially Waves will allow token creation and transfer, but not trading - the decentralised exchange will come a little later.
We're contacting exchanges, but the nature of these things is that they like to know there's community interest (otherwise it's not worth them going to the trouble). So please do drop Bittrex, Polo and other major exchanges a line and register your interest!
When the Incent app is launched, there will be buy/sell functionality within that too. That will mean Joe Public doesn't have to initiate himself into the strange and wonderful world of crypto exchanges...
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November 16, 2016, 10:11:53 PM
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Thank you for your comments. We understand that you might be unhappy with the current rating. If you think that our express report contains inaccuracies and omissions, we’d be happy to listen to your arguments.

You can read more about our rating system here: http://icorating.com/rating

You can't be serious. It appears the whole purpose of your business is to offer accurate analysis and you're asking incent staff to contact you with corrections? 

From icorating.com:
"At the same time, there’s no reason to expect quick results since the Bitcoin ecosystem is still a very narrow market, and traditional consumers still have little understanding of all the possibilities of blockchain products."

I guess I should get out of crypto entirely? That sentence is stupid on so many levels.
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November 16, 2016, 10:16:55 PM
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What ICO is over and how BTC already collected during the ICO in progress

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November 16, 2016, 11:19:01 PM
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What ICO is over and how BTC already collected during the ICO in progress
14 days left to participate in this crowdfunding program.
Total 1,024.5900 Bitcoin raised | 830,028.2386 Waves raised so far.
You can track the real time update here https://www.incentloyalty.com/

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November 16, 2016, 11:37:38 PM
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Hi, RW.

Thank you for the offer, but if you suggest that we rewrite our report and send it to you for the personal review - unfortunately we don’t work like that. However, we’re totally open to any additional information, that you think could improve our report.

And thank you for the advice - we’ll take it into account.

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November 16, 2016, 11:46:18 PM
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Thank you for your comments. We understand that you might be unhappy with the current rating. If you think that our express report contains inaccuracies and omissions, we’d be happy to listen to your arguments.

You can read more about our rating system here: http://icorating.com/rating

You can't be serious. It appears the whole purpose of your business is to offer accurate analysis and you're asking incent staff to contact you with corrections? 

From icorating.com:
"At the same time, there’s no reason to expect quick results since the Bitcoin ecosystem is still a very narrow market, and traditional consumers still have little understanding of all the possibilities of blockchain products."

I guess I should get out of crypto entirely? That sentence is stupid on so many levels.
I have to agree here: This sentence proves that you have not understood the concept of Incent at all. Incent is all about breaking the barrier to mainstream by offering them a service which works under the bonnet on the blockchain. And that's exactly what we want: bring blockchain to users without them even realizing they use it.

WavesGo - the Official Block Explorer for the Waves Platform. Making blockchain accessible to the masses.
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November 17, 2016, 04:03:49 AM
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How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?
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November 17, 2016, 10:02:06 AM
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How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

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November 17, 2016, 10:34:14 AM
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How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

Everyone needs to investigate for themselves to get the full picture , but lets take CryptoIndex as an example of Sasha's behaviour.

This is the asset on NXT - https://www.mynxt.info/asset/13634675574519917918
Here is the nxtforum.org thread - https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/(pre-ann)-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/
Here is the website - http://cryptoindex.io/ (from asset description) or http://coinoindex.com/ (from ANN thread)

It'll take you a few minutes to see this asset is dead, and the ANN thread offers no explanation, just abandoned. A little more investigation reveals the same or similar for the other assets ... DEAD.

Sasha raised 100's of thousands from a number of Coinomat based assets, then abandoned them in favour of WAVES which raised 10's of millions. What's to say he doesn't abandon WAVES for a project in the 100's of millions. If this idea seems ridiculous (Sasha abandoning WAVES for something bigger/better), then try and explain why a promising project like Incent seems perfectly content to work with Sasha given his past behaviour? Either Incent guys don't realise all these past projects have been abandoned (which would be diabolical negligence in itself), or they do know, but are using WAVES anyway. The Crypto community obviously tolerates a lot more shonky behaviour.

Maybe others know what's going on with all Sasha's past coinomat based assets and businesses, (if so please share), but on the surface it looks like a collective delusion where everyone is happy to ignore reality. A 30M USD ICO was surely impressive, but Sasha's resume isn't.
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November 17, 2016, 10:35:10 AM
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Hi, RW.

Thank you for the offer, but if you suggest that we rewrite our report and send it to you for the personal review - unfortunately we don’t work like that. However, we’re totally open to any additional information, that you think could improve our report.

And thank you for the advice - we’ll take it into account.

A degree of accuracy would improve your report considerably, as would some indication that you had done basic and independent research to understand the concept or current state of business development - rather than publishing inaccurate material and then expecting the project's founders to take the time and effort to compensate for your lack of competence.
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November 17, 2016, 10:40:26 AM
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How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

Everyone needs to investigate for themselves to get the full picture , but lets take CryptoIndex as an example of Sasha's behaviour.

This is the asset on NXT - https://www.mynxt.info/asset/13634675574519917918
Here is the nxtforum.org thread - https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/(pre-ann)-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/
Here is the website - http://cryptoindex.io/ (from asset description) or http://coinoindex.com/ (from ANN thread)

It'll take you a few minutes to see this asset is dead, and the ANN thread offers no explanation, just abandoned. A little more investigation reveals the same or similar for the other assets ... DEAD.

Sasha raised 100's of thousands from a number of Coinomat based assets, then abandoned them in favour of WAVES which raised 10's of millions. What's to say he doesn't abandon WAVES for a project in the 100's of millions. If this idea seems ridiculous (Sasha abandoning WAVES for something bigger/better), then try and explain why a promising project like Incent seems perfectly content to work with Sasha given his past behaviour? Either Incent guys don't realise all these past projects have been abandoned (which would be diabolical negligence in itself), or they do know, but are using WAVES anyway. The Crypto community obviously tolerates a lot more shonky behaviour.

Maybe others know what's going on with all Sasha's past coinomat based assets and businesses, (if so please share), but on the surface it looks like a collective delusion where everyone is happy to ignore reality. A 30M USD was surely impressive, but Sasha's resume isn't.

I strongly disagree with this analysis too.
Anyone familiar with the Nxt ecosystem and economy will be aware of the factors in play here, and anyone who has worked with Sasha will know that he is not someone motivated simply by money.
These projects will be moved over to Waves in due course.
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November 17, 2016, 10:49:57 AM
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How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

Everyone needs to investigate for themselves to get the full picture , but lets take CryptoIndex as an example of Sasha's behaviour.

This is the asset on NXT - https://www.mynxt.info/asset/13634675574519917918
Here is the nxtforum.org thread - https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/(pre-ann)-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/
Here is the website - http://cryptoindex.io/ (from asset description) or http://coinoindex.com/ (from ANN thread)

It'll take you a few minutes to see this asset is dead, and the ANN thread offers no explanation, just abandoned. A little more investigation reveals the same or similar for the other assets ... DEAD.

Sasha raised 100's of thousands from a number of Coinomat based assets, then abandoned them in favour of WAVES which raised 10's of millions. What's to say he doesn't abandon WAVES for a project in the 100's of millions. If this idea seems ridiculous (Sasha abandoning WAVES for something bigger/better), then try and explain why a promising project like Incent seems perfectly content to work with Sasha given his past behaviour? Either Incent guys don't realise all these past projects have been abandoned (which would be diabolical negligence in itself), or they do know, but are using WAVES anyway. The Crypto community obviously tolerates a lot more shonky behaviour.

Maybe others know what's going on with all Sasha's past coinomat based assets and businesses, (if so please share), but on the surface it looks like a collective delusion where everyone is happy to ignore reality. A 30M USD was surely impressive, but Sasha's resume isn't.

I strongly disagree with this analysis too.
Anyone familiar with the Nxt ecosystem and economy will be aware of the factors in play here, and anyone who has worked with Sasha will know that he is not someone motivated simply by money.
These projects will be moved over to Waves in due course.

Thanks for the reply Cassius, but what communication from Sasha gives you this confidence? If it exists, where is it? Wouldn't the obvious place to post such assurances about an asset like CryptoIndex be on the ANN thread and the website? Neither has any communication explaining the situation, nothing from Sasha for many months, (website looks dead).

Your loyalty to Sasha is admirable up to a point, but you can't polish a turd Cassius, and if you try you'll just get shit all over Incent. Sasha has behaved terribly to ordinary investors, maybe insiders get more information, but I've seen practically nothing. Some mention of Coinomat business being sold, or turned into a 'gateway', but after so many months the lack of detail is pathetic. Other assets like CryptoCard & CryptoIndex look dead completely.

If someone can show public statements confirming the status of these coinomat assets I'll be very relieved.

Sasha's last post about CryptoIndex  from March 1st - nothing in the last 7 months

I see no action around your index, despite alts are on the run.
You mentioned large investors once. Is there any promo at least?
Current NXT situation holds me back a little
So I solve this thing first
After the dust settles (which will happen quite soon) I'll get down to index in a really big way.
And yes there's promotion now.
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November 17, 2016, 12:09:19 PM
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ICOrating team welcomes crypto community!

We present our mini report on the investment attractiveness of Incent project (https://www.incentloyalty.com/).

Incent is both a cryptographic token and a loyalty eco-system, which allows merchant clients to incentivise custom by rewarding their customers, at the point of transaction, which has the unique property of being convertible on the Waves blockchain.
 
ICOrating team (http://icorating.com) conducted a express analysis of the project  (business model, technical background, team, marketing) and gave it a Risky rating. Read more in the report.

Links:  http://icorating.com/project/4
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Golos   Rating score:STABLE

Incent Rating score:RISKY

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November 17, 2016, 02:03:12 PM
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You are throwing out accusation without presenting any factual evidence to back them up. In the real world you could be sued for defamation.

For your information:
1. There are weekly updates about the development of the Waves project: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYDQN4Fo4rGnOZ22L5plNIw/videos
2. Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc. are being integrated into the Waves Platform
3. There are weekly news on http://coremedia.info/index.php/waves-news

Just to name a few resources.

So @NASdaq you should be ashamed for yourself and apologize for posting such stupid remarks.

How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

Everyone needs to investigate for themselves to get the full picture , but lets take CryptoIndex as an example of Sasha's behaviour.

This is the asset on NXT - https://www.mynxt.info/asset/13634675574519917918
Here is the nxtforum.org thread - https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/(pre-ann)-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/
Here is the website - http://cryptoindex.io/ (from asset description) or http://coinoindex.com/ (from ANN thread)

It'll take you a few minutes to see this asset is dead, and the ANN thread offers no explanation, just abandoned. A little more investigation reveals the same or similar for the other assets ... DEAD.

Sasha raised 100's of thousands from a number of Coinomat based assets, then abandoned them in favour of WAVES which raised 10's of millions. What's to say he doesn't abandon WAVES for a project in the 100's of millions. If this idea seems ridiculous (Sasha abandoning WAVES for something bigger/better), then try and explain why a promising project like Incent seems perfectly content to work with Sasha given his past behaviour? Either Incent guys don't realise all these past projects have been abandoned (which would be diabolical negligence in itself), or they do know, but are using WAVES anyway. The Crypto community obviously tolerates a lot more shonky behaviour.

Maybe others know what's going on with all Sasha's past coinomat based assets and businesses, (if so please share), but on the surface it looks like a collective delusion where everyone is happy to ignore reality. A 30M USD was surely impressive, but Sasha's resume isn't.

I strongly disagree with this analysis too.
Anyone familiar with the Nxt ecosystem and economy will be aware of the factors in play here, and anyone who has worked with Sasha will know that he is not someone motivated simply by money.
These projects will be moved over to Waves in due course.

Thanks for the reply Cassius, but what communication from Sasha gives you this confidence? If it exists, where is it? Wouldn't the obvious place to post such assurances about an asset like CryptoIndex be on the ANN thread and the website? Neither has any communication explaining the situation, nothing from Sasha for many months, (website looks dead).

Your loyalty to Sasha is admirable up to a point, but you can't polish a turd Cassius, and if you try you'll just get shit all over Incent. Sasha has behaved terribly to ordinary investors, maybe insiders get more information, but I've seen practically nothing. Some mention of Coinomat business being sold, or turned into a 'gateway', but after so many months the lack of detail is pathetic. Other assets like CryptoCard & CryptoIndex look dead completely.

If someone can show public statements confirming the status of these coinomat assets I'll be very relieved.

Sasha's last post about CryptoIndex  from March 1st - nothing in the last 7 months

I see no action around your index, despite alts are on the run.
You mentioned large investors once. Is there any promo at least?
Current NXT situation holds me back a little
So I solve this thing first
After the dust settles (which will happen quite soon) I'll get down to index in a really big way.
And yes there's promotion now.


 
 
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November 17, 2016, 02:05:56 PM
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No more incent from theviral exchange?
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November 17, 2016, 02:18:40 PM
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You are throwing out accusation without presenting any factual evidence to back them up. In the real world you could be sued for defamation.

For your information:
1. There are weekly updates about the development of the Waves project: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYDQN4Fo4rGnOZ22L5plNIw/videos
2. Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc. are being integrated into the Waves Platform
3. There are weekly news on http://coremedia.info/index.php/waves-news

Just to name a few resources.

So @NASdaq you should be ashamed for yourself and apologize for posting such stupid remarks.

How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

Everyone needs to investigate for themselves to get the full picture , but lets take CryptoIndex as an example of Sasha's behaviour.

This is the asset on NXT - https://www.mynxt.info/asset/13634675574519917918
Here is the nxtforum.org thread - https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/(pre-ann)-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/
Here is the website - http://cryptoindex.io/ (from asset description) or http://coinoindex.com/ (from ANN thread)

It'll take you a few minutes to see this asset is dead, and the ANN thread offers no explanation, just abandoned. A little more investigation reveals the same or similar for the other assets ... DEAD.

Sasha raised 100's of thousands from a number of Coinomat based assets, then abandoned them in favour of WAVES which raised 10's of millions. What's to say he doesn't abandon WAVES for a project in the 100's of millions. If this idea seems ridiculous (Sasha abandoning WAVES for something bigger/better), then try and explain why a promising project like Incent seems perfectly content to work with Sasha given his past behaviour? Either Incent guys don't realise all these past projects have been abandoned (which would be diabolical negligence in itself), or they do know, but are using WAVES anyway. The Crypto community obviously tolerates a lot more shonky behaviour.

Maybe others know what's going on with all Sasha's past coinomat based assets and businesses, (if so please share), but on the surface it looks like a collective delusion where everyone is happy to ignore reality. A 30M USD was surely impressive, but Sasha's resume isn't.

I strongly disagree with this analysis too.
Anyone familiar with the Nxt ecosystem and economy will be aware of the factors in play here, and anyone who has worked with Sasha will know that he is not someone motivated simply by money.
These projects will be moved over to Waves in due course.

Thanks for the reply Cassius, but what communication from Sasha gives you this confidence? If it exists, where is it? Wouldn't the obvious place to post such assurances about an asset like CryptoIndex be on the ANN thread and the website? Neither has any communication explaining the situation, nothing from Sasha for many months, (website looks dead).

Your loyalty to Sasha is admirable up to a point, but you can't polish a turd Cassius, and if you try you'll just get shit all over Incent. Sasha has behaved terribly to ordinary investors, maybe insiders get more information, but I've seen practically nothing. Some mention of Coinomat business being sold, or turned into a 'gateway', but after so many months the lack of detail is pathetic. Other assets like CryptoCard & CryptoIndex look dead completely.

If someone can show public statements confirming the status of these coinomat assets I'll be very relieved.

Sasha's last post about CryptoIndex  from March 1st - nothing in the last 7 months

I see no action around your index, despite alts are on the run.
You mentioned large investors once. Is there any promo at least?
Current NXT situation holds me back a little
So I solve this thing first
After the dust settles (which will happen quite soon) I'll get down to index in a really big way.
And yes there's promotion now.


I find this all pretty distasteful to be honest but can only speak from what I know and this is that in the 9 months I have known him and the 6 that we have been working together, I have found Sasha to be one of the most genuine, loyal and committed professionals I have ever worked with. I back him to succeed with Waves and I am very comfortable with my decision to place my faith in him and his team.

RW.
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November 17, 2016, 02:39:24 PM
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You are throwing out accusation without presenting any factual evidence to back them up. In the real world you could be sued for defamation.

For your information:
1. There are weekly updates about the development of the Waves project: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYDQN4Fo4rGnOZ22L5plNIw/videos
2. Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc. are being integrated into the Waves Platform
3. There are weekly news on http://coremedia.info/index.php/waves-news

Just to name a few resources.

So @NASdaq you should be ashamed for yourself and apologize for posting such stupid remarks.

How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

Everyone needs to investigate for themselves to get the full picture , but lets take CryptoIndex as an example of Sasha's behaviour.

This is the asset on NXT - https://www.mynxt.info/asset/13634675574519917918
Here is the nxtforum.org thread - https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/(pre-ann)-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/
Here is the website - http://cryptoindex.io/ (from asset description) or http://coinoindex.com/ (from ANN thread)

It'll take you a few minutes to see this asset is dead, and the ANN thread offers no explanation, just abandoned. A little more investigation reveals the same or similar for the other assets ... DEAD.

Sasha raised 100's of thousands from a number of Coinomat based assets, then abandoned them in favour of WAVES which raised 10's of millions. What's to say he doesn't abandon WAVES for a project in the 100's of millions. If this idea seems ridiculous (Sasha abandoning WAVES for something bigger/better), then try and explain why a promising project like Incent seems perfectly content to work with Sasha given his past behaviour? Either Incent guys don't realise all these past projects have been abandoned (which would be diabolical negligence in itself), or they do know, but are using WAVES anyway. The Crypto community obviously tolerates a lot more shonky behaviour.

Maybe others know what's going on with all Sasha's past coinomat based assets and businesses, (if so please share), but on the surface it looks like a collective delusion where everyone is happy to ignore reality. A 30M USD was surely impressive, but Sasha's resume isn't.

I strongly disagree with this analysis too.
Anyone familiar with the Nxt ecosystem and economy will be aware of the factors in play here, and anyone who has worked with Sasha will know that he is not someone motivated simply by money.
These projects will be moved over to Waves in due course.

Thanks for the reply Cassius, but what communication from Sasha gives you this confidence? If it exists, where is it? Wouldn't the obvious place to post such assurances about an asset like CryptoIndex be on the ANN thread and the website? Neither has any communication explaining the situation, nothing from Sasha for many months, (website looks dead).

Your loyalty to Sasha is admirable up to a point, but you can't polish a turd Cassius, and if you try you'll just get shit all over Incent. Sasha has behaved terribly to ordinary investors, maybe insiders get more information, but I've seen practically nothing. Some mention of Coinomat business being sold, or turned into a 'gateway', but after so many months the lack of detail is pathetic. Other assets like CryptoCard & CryptoIndex look dead completely.

If someone can show public statements confirming the status of these coinomat assets I'll be very relieved.

Sasha's last post about CryptoIndex  from March 1st - nothing in the last 7 months

I see no action around your index, despite alts are on the run.
You mentioned large investors once. Is there any promo at least?
Current NXT situation holds me back a little
So I solve this thing first
After the dust settles (which will happen quite soon) I'll get down to index in a really big way.
And yes there's promotion now.


I find this all pretty distasteful to be honest but can only speak from what I know and this is that in the 9 months I have known him and the 6 that we have been working together, I have found Sasha to be one of the most genuine, loyal and committed professionals I have ever worked with. I back him to succeed with Waves and I am very comfortable with my decision to place my faith in him and his team.

RW.

It's good to have some positive in the background about Sasha, with some partners.
There has been diffculties from a public investors view. Mainly about Sasha words / promises. Basically, the general way to handle things in public.

I invested a little share in your project at the beginning, and hope you to create something interesting with that concept of yours.

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