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March 07, 2017, 09:02:00 AM
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wow. and you still use third party advertising. that's what I call greed.

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March 07, 2017, 09:11:59 AM
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wow. and you still use third party advertising. that's what I call greed.

Not sure what you mean?
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March 07, 2017, 09:14:35 AM
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Can INCENT dev complete the distribution of TOKES asap? Everytime tokes dev refer us to incent for delaying tokes distribution.
It would be nice if you say something like when your'e going to distribute all tokes?
Thank you

I will pass it on. Just to check, have you put your Waves address in the ICO area?

I've just checked. Support for Tokes has been suspended.
There was an MOA with Tokes to pay 5 BTC for the service Incent offered. They are refusing to honour this due to their raise being less than they expected.
Obviously this is not our responsibility. Until it is resolved all support is on hold.
I'd suggest that you take this up with Tokes in the meantime.
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March 07, 2017, 09:16:14 AM
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I can see more dump if Bitcoin ETF is approved or because the buy order is too lean on Liqui. Hope things will work right soon, no risk, no reward
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March 07, 2017, 09:32:50 AM
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Can INCENT dev complete the distribution of TOKES asap? Everytime tokes dev refer us to incent for delaying tokes distribution.
It would be nice if you say something like when your'e going to distribute all tokes?
Thank you

I will pass it on. Just to check, have you put your Waves address in the ICO area?

I've just checked. Support for Tokes has been suspended.
There was an MOA with Tokes to pay 5 BTC for the service Incent offered. They are refusing to honour this due to their raise being less than they expected.
Obviously this is not our responsibility. Until it is resolved all support is on hold.
I'd suggest that you take this up with Tokes in the meantime.

So this is what goes on behind the scene and Tokes team can't come out to state the truth about what is causing delay.
It was a foolish decision on the part of Tokes team to offer Bitcoin instead of Tokes tokens, the reward should have been tied to the performance of the ICO , the fund received is barely enough to develop the platform talkless of offering 5BTC to anyone.

They have sealed the deal already and must fulfill it
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March 07, 2017, 10:00:46 AM
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Can INCENT dev complete the distribution of TOKES asap? Everytime tokes dev refer us to incent for delaying tokes distribution.
It would be nice if you say something like when your'e going to distribute all tokes?
Thank you

I will pass it on. Just to check, have you put your Waves address in the ICO area?

I've just checked. Support for Tokes has been suspended.
There was an MOA with Tokes to pay 5 BTC for the service Incent offered. They are refusing to honour this due to their raise being less than they expected.
Obviously this is not our responsibility. Until it is resolved all support is on hold.
I'd suggest that you take this up with Tokes in the meantime.

but this is about the +plus they were offering to eary buyers (as incent tokens)? or the TOKES tokens which are the actual coin? Huh

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March 07, 2017, 10:04:03 AM
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Can INCENT dev complete the distribution of TOKES asap? Everytime tokes dev refer us to incent for delaying tokes distribution.
It would be nice if you say something like when your'e going to distribute all tokes?
Thank you

I will pass it on. Just to check, have you put your Waves address in the ICO area?

I've just checked. Support for Tokes has been suspended.
There was an MOA with Tokes to pay 5 BTC for the service Incent offered. They are refusing to honour this due to their raise being less than they expected.
Obviously this is not our responsibility. Until it is resolved all support is on hold.
I'd suggest that you take this up with Tokes in the meantime.

but this is about the +plus they were offering to eary buyers (as incent tokens)? or the TOKES tokens which are the actual coin? Huh
It's basically about all the work still to be done from our side. We are more than happy to fulfill our obligations but that requires TOKES to fulfill their part of the deal.

In short: TOKES is on hold until payment is received/escrowed.

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March 07, 2017, 10:04:25 AM
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Waiting Incent listed on the big exchange

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March 07, 2017, 11:08:23 AM
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In short: TOKES is on hold until payment is received/escrowed.

Hey,

When did this happen? I meant the refusal of payment from TOKES side.

Thankyou
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March 07, 2017, 02:55:31 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.


 
 
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March 07, 2017, 03:06:58 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.
Tokes is the result of his project. But it looks like he wasn't running for good. And lack of the update about the latest development.  Cheesy


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March 07, 2017, 04:13:23 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.

I'm not sure who you're talking to here, or what you're referring to - Tokes or Incent?
If Tokes, that's something to take up with their team.
If Incent, you are quite misguided.
The bit about pyramids and grandmothers was particularly arcane. Please explain?

Edit: latest major update barely a week ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610052.msg18010652#msg18010652
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March 07, 2017, 04:37:54 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.

I'm not sure who you're talking to here, or what you're referring to - Tokes or Incent?
If Tokes, that's something to take up with their team.
If Incent, you are quite misguided.
The bit about pyramids and grandmothers was particularly arcane. Please explain?

Edit: latest major update barely a week ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610052.msg18010652#msg18010652
I'm talking about incent! Why did you go to the stock exchange? You essentially have nothing to trade with. You are present at 2 exchanges. Offer to buy your coins .... and the price is already 2 times lower than ico by btc? Are you serious? Do you like to see how your idea depreciates? You say that the price in USD has not changed almost ..... This can not be a question !!! You collected funds in btc.And the course is also in btc !! All the rest is an excuse, you can console yourself. Your do not invest in your token because you are not sure whether you can get your money back. Your not sure that he will be in demand at all ... But for this you are all here to convince the contrary. There is only one conclusion!


 
 
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March 07, 2017, 05:07:10 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.

I'm not sure who you're talking to here, or what you're referring to - Tokes or Incent?
If Tokes, that's something to take up with their team.
If Incent, you are quite misguided.
The bit about pyramids and grandmothers was particularly arcane. Please explain?

Edit: latest major update barely a week ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610052.msg18010652#msg18010652
I'm talking about incent! Why did you go to the stock exchange? You essentially have nothing to trade with. You are present at 2 exchanges. Offer to buy your coins .... and the price is already 2 times lower than ico by btc? Are you serious? Do you like to see how your idea depreciates? You say that the price in USD has not changed almost ..... This can not be a question !!! You collected funds in btc.And the course is also in btc !! All the rest is an excuse, you can console yourself. Your do not invest in your token because you are not sure whether you can get your money back. Your not sure that he will be in demand at all ... But for this you are all here to convince the contrary. There is only one conclusion!
No, you are completely mistaken. Let me get the facts straight:

We are a startup. As for any other startup, money doesn't grow on trees. We are trying to spend our working capital as efficiently and effectively as possible for the sake of Incent and, inevitably, its price in the long-term. We are hard at work to release the core application and on-board the first merchant. We expect this to happen during April. After having achieved this milestone, the money situation will be slightly different: There will be a revenue stream through commissions and our goal must be to write black figures as soon as possible, meaning to generate more revenue than expenses. Until this point, we are solely reliant on our seed funding through the ICO and will therefore definitely not buy back Incent and, as a result, reduce our working capital.


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seem the story has come out eventually. can't you just go on. INCENT had been dumped pretty hard the first chance its market was opened on openledger, they must really need that 5 btc very badly. i suggest tokes team to give to them what was agreed before it all started.   Grin

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March 07, 2017, 05:13:52 PM
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Can INCENT dev complete the distribution of TOKES asap? Everytime tokes dev refer us to incent for delaying tokes distribution.
It would be nice if you say something like when your'e going to distribute all tokes?
Thank you

I will pass it on. Just to check, have you put your Waves address in the ICO area?

I've just checked. Support for Tokes has been suspended.
There was an MOA with Tokes to pay 5 BTC for the service Incent offered. They are refusing to honour this due to their raise being less than they expected.
Obviously this is not our responsibility. Until it is resolved all support is on hold.
I'd suggest that you take this up with Tokes in the meantime.

but this is about the +plus they were offering to eary buyers (as incent tokens)? or the TOKES tokens which are the actual coin? Huh
It's basically about all the work still to be done from our side. We are more than happy to fulfill our obligations but that requires TOKES to fulfill their part of the deal.

In short: TOKES is on hold until payment is received/escrowed.

All I see is incompetence on the part of Incent. I invested in both Incent and TOKES. First the "fantastic platform" Incent built crashed every other day. You provided poor support when you were contacted for help by users / participants. You overpaid a bunch of investors and asked for the Incent back post ICO.

You should be bending over backwards to the Tokes guys for selling them on a crappy ICO platform rather than pointing fingers.

The audacity of all this is unfathomable.

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March 07, 2017, 05:48:34 PM
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Can INCENT dev complete the distribution of TOKES asap? Everytime tokes dev refer us to incent for delaying tokes distribution.
It would be nice if you say something like when your'e going to distribute all tokes?
Thank you

I will pass it on. Just to check, have you put your Waves address in the ICO area?

I've just checked. Support for Tokes has been suspended.
There was an MOA with Tokes to pay 5 BTC for the service Incent offered. They are refusing to honour this due to their raise being less than they expected.
Obviously this is not our responsibility. Until it is resolved all support is on hold.
I'd suggest that you take this up with Tokes in the meantime.

but this is about the +plus they were offering to eary buyers (as incent tokens)? or the TOKES tokens which are the actual coin? Huh
It's basically about all the work still to be done from our side. We are more than happy to fulfill our obligations but that requires TOKES to fulfill their part of the deal.

In short: TOKES is on hold until payment is received/escrowed.

All I see is incompetence on the part of Incent. I invested in both Incent and TOKES. First the "fantastic platform" Incent built crashed every other day. You provided poor support when you were contacted for help by users / participants. You overpaid a bunch of investors and asked for the Incent back post ICO.

You should be bending over backwards to the Tokes guys for selling them on a crappy ICO platform rather than pointing fingers.

The audacity of all this is unfathomable.


Not really. We are creating a platform and ecosystem and were quite transparent about what it involved and our timelines. Perhaps you didn't read the white paper or website?
It is necessary for us to trade on exchanges ahead of merchant integration to establish a market price before that buy pressure comes in. Besides, the community clamoured for Incent to be added to exchanges. Read back through the post history if you're in any doubt.
If you're upset that the market has treated Incent unfavourably when we're pre-launch (no merchant demand) and bitcoin is spiking, that is unfortunate but beyond our control. If you weren't prepared to wait until launch, you shouldn't have invested. We have always been crystal clear about where the return on investment would come from, and it's not burning the funds we collected. That is the very definition of a ponzi.
As for Tokes, there was an agreement there too. They didn't honour it. Take it up with them.
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March 07, 2017, 05:57:57 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.

I'm not sure who you're talking to here, or what you're referring to - Tokes or Incent?
If Tokes, that's something to take up with their team.
If Incent, you are quite misguided.
The bit about pyramids and grandmothers was particularly arcane. Please explain?

Edit: latest major update barely a week ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610052.msg18010652#msg18010652
I'm talking about incent! Why did you go to the stock exchange? You essentially have nothing to trade with. You are present at 2 exchanges. Offer to buy your coins .... and the price is already 2 times lower than ico by btc? Are you serious? Do you like to see how your idea depreciates? You say that the price in USD has not changed almost ..... This can not be a question !!! You collected funds in btc.And the course is also in btc !! All the rest is an excuse, you can console yourself. Your do not invest in your token because you are not sure whether you can get your money back. Your not sure that he will be in demand at all ... But for this you are all here to convince the contrary. There is only one conclusion!

Just so we're clear:
Buying tokens back using ICO funds makes us a Ponzi. You want us to be a Ponzi?
Price has fallen in terms of BTC. BTC has risen. This is a known phenomenon in cryptoland, it impacts everything. Would you like us to take the blame for the fall in the value of the Mexican Peso, or credit for the rise in the FTSE? Same reason, a change in the value of the reference currency.

I can appreciate that the exchange price of Incent may be disheartening to investors. Equally, we never promised the magical 3x growth in a week that some ICO participants seem to believe is their entitlement. We said we would launch a loyalty system and integrate the first merchants around the end of March, beginning of April, and that returns would be based on demand from real e-commerce transactions. And that's what we're doing.
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March 07, 2017, 06:23:13 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.

I'm not sure who you're talking to here, or what you're referring to - Tokes or Incent?
If Tokes, that's something to take up with their team.
If Incent, you are quite misguided.
The bit about pyramids and grandmothers was particularly arcane. Please explain?

Edit: latest major update barely a week ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610052.msg18010652#msg18010652
I'm talking about incent! Why did you go to the stock exchange? You essentially have nothing to trade with. You are present at 2 exchanges. Offer to buy your coins .... and the price is already 2 times lower than ico by btc? Are you serious? Do you like to see how your idea depreciates? You say that the price in USD has not changed almost ..... This can not be a question !!! You collected funds in btc.And the course is also in btc !! All the rest is an excuse, you can console yourself. Your do not invest in your token because you are not sure whether you can get your money back. Your not sure that he will be in demand at all ... But for this you are all here to convince the contrary. There is only one conclusion!
No, you are completely mistaken. Let me get the facts straight:

We are a startup. As for any other startup, money doesn't grow on trees. We are trying to spend our working capital as efficiently and effectively as possible for the sake of Incent and, inevitably, its price in the long-term. We are hard at work to release the core application and on-board the first merchant. We expect this to happen during April. After having achieved this milestone, the money situation will be slightly different: There will be a revenue stream through commissions and our goal must be to write black figures as soon as possible, meaning to generate more revenue than expenses. Until this point, we are solely reliant on our seed funding through the ICO and will therefore definitely not buy back Incent and, as a result, reduce our working capital.



You see? You told the real state of affairs. This is your strategy .... You do not want to spend money until there is real income from the project. More precisely, while the current income from the project is not used to the current expense for its development. That is, you do not plan to really invest in promotion until you are sure that the project is profitable. But tell me, why then go to the stock exchange with a pacifier ??
 Do you understand that you are misleading people? They do not know your plans and expect a different result from these investments. So say that we do not plan to support the course until the project is self-supporting. So far nothing has been done, so do not expect growth until everything is will be working.
Personally, your position is clear to me.

Your position is understandable. But being placed on the stock exchange you also need to take into account the volatility of bitcoins and the risks that your potential investors are expecting .. Even more than they themselves are expecting it. This is correct. And so you claim that bitcoin has grown very ... and once we bought your token, ourselves to blame ....


 
 
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March 07, 2017, 08:10:36 PM
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You see? You told the real state of affairs. This is your strategy .... You do not want to spend money until there is real income from the project. More precisely, while the current income from the project is not used to the current expense for its development. That is, you do not plan to really invest in promotion until you are sure that the project is profitable. But tell me, why then go to the stock exchange with a pacifier ??
 Do you understand that you are misleading people? They do not know your plans and expect a different result from these investments. So say that we do not plan to support the course until the project is self-supporting. So far nothing has been done, so do not expect growth until everything is will be working.
Personally, your position is clear to me.

Your position is understandable. But being placed on the stock exchange you also need to take into account the volatility of bitcoins and the risks that your potential investors are expecting .. Even more than they themselves are expecting it. This is correct. And so you claim that bitcoin has grown very ... and once we bought your token, ourselves to blame ....

Hi Papa Di,
I think you may have misunderstood. We are spending money where we need to: on developing the app/tech, on business development, on compliance - basically on all the things we need to make sure happen to launch a viable product that operates within the current regulatory structure. What we cannot afford to do is spend funds where we do not need to. Everything at this point goes behind launching a successful consumer app. Everything else comes from that. Get it wrong and we're dead in the water before we start. Get it right and the sky is the limit.

You're right that bitcoin's volatility is a risk assumed by the investor. That is the case with any investment, of course - that the currency in which you invest (i.e. that you sell for the asset purchased) rises in value. If bitcoin had fallen in value, likely Incent would have risen against BTC, as is the case with just about any alt under those circumstances. This is just a given in the crypto economy. It is unavoidable and it affects every ICO and crypto project to some extent.

Bottom line, we're not launched with Merchant 1 yet. We need to be on exchanges ahead of that. The price you see there isn't realistic - it wouldn't be possible to cash out large amounts anyway, as there simply isn't the liquidity. (One of the things we discussed at length in Sydney was our marketmaking strategy, and how we will add depth to the order books. This will allow merchants and traders to buy in/cash out with lower slippage, and will benefit everyone.) We're not at go-live yet, so the sorts of criticisms you're making of us just don't stack up. We're doing what we need to and what we said we would, within the schedule laid out.
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