Oilacris
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October 27, 2016, 08:11:40 AM |
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I think it is simply to know whether a website is a fraud or trusted.those site which offer high interest for deposit are always fraud.generally fraud website register their domain for only 1 year. Or you can check their backup option,forum etc as mentioned by other users
Before you try to invest on a certain website be sure to search first all informations regarding to a website, all find a review or opinions on a certain website because with this way you could somehow know about on the site legitimacy. If you saw most negative feedbacks then dont try to proceed. You can't actually see the real score of a certain site if this is legit or not since theyre are so many refferal junkies and willing to risk your money just for the sake of their bunos, they will surely say good things about that site so you would be encourage to invest and turn out to be a scam victim later so for this not to be happen well we should not invest at any of those at this moment since anything can be wrong bad for just single minute for hyip sites. There are really people out there whose too hungry for referrals and would really try to pursue on convincing you to join a certain website and they say all good things about them and the goodness when you join and thats why some people would really fall for that believing all those sweet words from someone but they really dont know the real motive which is getting referral bonus when they recruit someone. Thats their advantage though and they dont care about the person of being scammed of that site. But we can't do anything against them since its there choice to spread the scam site everywhere and we cannot put some bad tag on them since the spreading happened at social media sites, and i really believe that this kind of scheme will be hardnto.elimanate easily since there are so many frauds continuesly making some another just to scam people again. We should really expect that this kind of doings are just normal for this environment and we cant do anything about it hence no matter how we stop it it would still pop out like mushrooms because aiming for money and greediness is still there and we cant get it from a certain individual thats why they keep pursuing to do bad things into other people and wont mind anymore if they would be affected to much or not as long they are making money on that way.
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winspiral
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October 27, 2016, 08:29:31 AM |
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the problem is that people prefer scam sites than honnest sites.
When you create a site and say: earn daily 10000 satoshi you have members even if you scam your members. when you say 500 satoshi and you are honnest...noboddy comes because people prefer go to the scammers...
So is life...and if in the meantime the honnest webmaster is bombed with red trust you can forget the honnest site.
And so soon you have red trusted the scammer...he has open ten other scam sites.
On forums you have 10 members saying an honnest site is scam and only one or two saying the site is honnest... And the wrong redtrusters never admit that they was wrong...they disappear...
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Mastsetad
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October 27, 2016, 08:38:06 AM |
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We should really expect that this kind of doings are just normal for this environment and we cant do anything about it hence no matter how we stop it it would still pop out like mushrooms because aiming for money and greediness is still there and we cant get it from a certain individual thats why they keep pursuing to do bad things into other people and wont mind anymore if they would be affected to much or not as long they are making money on that way.
Absolutely, scammers wont stop doing this until they see even one percent of people getting tricked by them, because we can always see even if today a site is declared scam and tomorrow a site pops up with the same concept they would still get some investors, because of newbies and their greed of earning quick money.
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JasonXG
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October 27, 2016, 05:33:05 PM |
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As soon as a site makes you a promise beware. Anyone telling you there is 0 risk is lying because everything involves a risk. Hell waking up in the morning involves a risk. Driving your car involves the risk of death. Nothing is without risk. The best way is to fins out historically what sort of profits you would expect if thongs kept going the same way. This is not a sure thing either. You might make even more or even less. But certainly investing in a company with stable profits will almost certainly bring profits. Kind of like you would sy you won't die driving to the shops as if it were a sure thing but you still could in theory die in a crash though the odds are so low. Those are the sort of invest!ends you eant! Not promises and nonesense thrown at you. You need to see facts and figures and proper backing. Proper reasons to invest not some fantasy story of being "expert trade men" making 30% in mere days. That is clearly crap and only you are to blame If you for such things.
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wxa7115
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October 27, 2016, 05:51:55 PM |
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We should really expect that this kind of doings are just normal for this environment and we cant do anything about it hence no matter how we stop it it would still pop out like mushrooms because aiming for money and greediness is still there and we cant get it from a certain individual thats why they keep pursuing to do bad things into other people and wont mind anymore if they would be affected to much or not as long they are making money on that way.
Absolutely, scammers wont stop doing this until they see even one percent of people getting tricked by them, because we can always see even if today a site is declared scam and tomorrow a site pops up with the same concept they would still get some investors, because of newbies and their greed of earning quick money. I think that is the right way to define it, that is greed, there is nothing wrong with wanting a little bit of more money, but some people go to extreme length in order to try to get and then get burned.
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socks435
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October 27, 2016, 06:00:13 PM |
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We should really expect that this kind of doings are just normal for this environment and we cant do anything about it hence no matter how we stop it it would still pop out like mushrooms because aiming for money and greediness is still there and we cant get it from a certain individual thats why they keep pursuing to do bad things into other people and wont mind anymore if they would be affected to much or not as long they are making money on that way.
Absolutely, scammers wont stop doing this until they see even one percent of people getting tricked by them, because we can always see even if today a site is declared scam and tomorrow a site pops up with the same concept they would still get some investors, because of newbies and their greed of earning quick money. I think that is the right way to define it, that is greed, there is nothing wrong with wanting a little bit of more money, but some people go to extreme length in order to try to get and then get burned. Those people are always making fake and marketting ways to be visible for many people newbie always experience of scam and i think they are getting newbie to invest high because its just for investing and nothing they are needed to do just to invest and make profit.. but honestly when i was scam before i thought that bitcoin is scam so i search many times and found this forum and it helps me to know those who are scammers or not. .
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Decided to end it with zer0 profit.
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South Park
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October 27, 2016, 08:34:41 PM |
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As soon as a site makes you a promise beware. Anyone telling you there is 0 risk is lying because everything involves a risk. Hell waking up in the morning involves a risk. Driving your car involves the risk of death. Nothing is without risk. The best way is to fins out historically what sort of profits you would expect if thongs kept going the same way. This is not a sure thing either. You might make even more or even less. But certainly investing in a company with stable profits will almost certainly bring profits. Kind of like you would sy you won't die driving to the shops as if it were a sure thing but you still could in theory die in a crash though the odds are so low. Those are the sort of invest!ends you eant! Not promises and nonesense thrown at you. You need to see facts and figures and proper backing. Proper reasons to invest not some fantasy story of being "expert trade men" making 30% in mere days. That is clearly crap and only you are to blame If you for such things.
Yeah this post is spot on, I will just add to be cautious about new sites claiming they have been around for years and that they have a bunch of decades of experience since most likely hose sites are scams as well.
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mrkevio
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October 27, 2016, 08:39:13 PM |
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This is probably the biggest issue: the latest websites are even hard to prove that they are fake. Cloud mining websites were the most profitable ones a few years ago making MILLIONS in profits, but now it looks like almost everyone finally understood it's just a fake business. Fake for us, extremely profitable for them. Make sure you look up the websites on Google before you register and try them out. Search for reviews of that website and be careful, there might be even fake reviews. Fake websites got fake reviews and fake user counts and stuff like that. For example, there was a website a while ago that used to fake their user counting so whenever you refreshed you got a random number of users. There are plenty of things you can find suspicious on websites.
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iv4n
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October 27, 2016, 08:44:41 PM |
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We talk here about it, but truth is that scam happen in seconds before we have time to think. Here I don't talk about classic scam trys, when we recognize possible scam and we stay away from it. I'm talking when everything looks ok, good site with positive reviews, advertising on many places. Who knew that bitfinex gona crash? Who knew thag some faucet will crash and not pay? Small or big scam doesn't matter, we are not aware of it until it hits us.
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jeraldskie11
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October 27, 2016, 11:22:33 PM |
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You could only know that the site scam you if the members are no increasing and also the withdraws. So to prevent scam we need to be careful for our money invest, that is my own observation.
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JeffBrad12
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October 28, 2016, 02:17:55 AM |
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In my opinion, if a web site promises to give you great benefits you be careful, Because in the world,There is no free lunch,This is how I distinction liar
That's the main point of this, too many scam sites are offering for earning some benefits without trying for using some of your effort for finding the, and i can defining totally a lot of the sites are starting with this way are including on the scam site. but not at all. mostly.
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October 28, 2016, 07:09:34 AM |
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We talk here about it, but truth is that scam happen in seconds before we have time to think. Here I don't talk about classic scam trys, when we recognize possible scam and we stay away from it. I'm talking when everything looks ok, good site with positive reviews, advertising on many places. Who knew that bitfinex gona crash? Who knew thag some faucet will crash and not pay? Small or big scam doesn't matter, we are not aware of it until it hits us.
We could actually say its a scam if it hits us for sure but as a human we could eventually avoid it if we saw some factors that are quite suspicious on our awareness. If we do value our money then we should obliged our selves to put up or search some informations regarding to a particular site if its legit or not a ponzi ,hyip site. If we do configure what it is then we saw that it would became scam in the long run then we should stay away at the first place and dont let it to hit us afterall.
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Aamir1
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October 28, 2016, 07:57:06 AM |
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You could only know that the site scam you if the members are no increasing and also the withdraws. So to prevent scam we need to be careful for our money invest, that is my own observation.
It is not always important that the transactions shown on a website should be fake in order to represent the intentions of that website to be bad, but sometimes they even do some real transactions in order to make the users believe in them and later on they turn scam after getting a lot of investors.
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Fatanut
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October 28, 2016, 08:48:19 AM |
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You could only know that the site scam you if the members are no increasing and also the withdraws. -snip-
If that's your only method, then how are you going to deal with websites that doesn't show the number of members and withdrawals? In my experience, you simply have to google the website that you're about to use. Even before you find out about a website, somebody has already posted a feedback about it. But sometimes most of the time you can just sense it yourself, most unpopular websites out there are scam anyway.
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senyorito123
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October 28, 2016, 09:10:31 AM |
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You could only know that the site scam you if the members are no increasing and also the withdraws. -snip-
If that's your only method, then how are you going to deal with websites that doesn't show the number of members and withdrawals? In my experience, you simply have to google the website that you're about to use. Even before you find out about a website, somebody has already posted a feedback about it. But sometimes most of the time you can just sense it yourself, most unpopular websites out there are scam anyway. Actually google wouldn't help you cause for researching for any hyip site sometimes because they will redirect you to those hyip generator sites or some hyip analyzer and surely they will rate those site paying for the times they are running, and for scamming issue to be avoided will we should stop investing at them eventhough theirs people would brought up us on those site, hyips investment well never be a good idea so trashout the thinking for long profits of earning with this one.
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saiha
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October 28, 2016, 09:20:08 AM |
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You could only know that the site scam you if the members are no increasing and also the withdraws. So to prevent scam we need to be careful for our money invest, that is my own observation.
It is not always important that the transactions shown on a website should be fake in order to represent the intentions of that website to be bad, but sometimes they even do some real transactions in order to make the users believe in them and later on they turn scam after getting a lot of investors. That's really happening just to make their website to become real just to make believe that they are really paying. But the most effective way to know that a site tries to scam you, talk to other members of that and do some discussions like here in forum. Or any other forum that is related to that site.
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kanazawa
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October 28, 2016, 11:14:51 AM |
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The arguments are almost everytime (99%) based in some bizarre profit/return.
Appearance is not everything but it's important, and linked with that you have to look at the source code. Many scam pages have pre-defined script and the logic or the code it's not linked with what the site offers.
Google it then search in The Badlist in badbitcoins.org.
By doing this it's satisfatory to detect some scam page.
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winspiral
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October 28, 2016, 11:32:19 AM |
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As soon as a site makes you a promise beware. Anyone telling you there is 0 risk is lying because everything involves a risk. Hell waking up in the morning involves a risk. Driving your car involves the risk of death. Nothing is without risk. The best way is to fins out historically what sort of profits you would expect if thongs kept going the same way. This is not a sure thing either. You might make even more or even less. But certainly investing in a company with stable profits will almost certainly bring profits. Kind of like you would sy you won't die driving to the shops as if it were a sure thing but you still could in theory die in a crash though the odds are so low. Those are the sort of invest!ends you eant! Not promises and nonesense thrown at you. You need to see facts and figures and proper backing. Proper reasons to invest not some fantasy story of being "expert trade men" making 30% in mere days. That is clearly crap and only you are to blame If you for such things.
I do not agree: If the unique risk is that the sky can fall on our head (or such kind of risk) then it is for me 0 risk. My U2 system is 0 risk and I can not accept that people say it is not so... When I say it is impossible to lose,then it is so... Why does people take pleasure to say that the 0 risk does not exist? Ok...every one can die suddently...but this has nothing to see with my system. Ok...a server can crash...but this has nothing to see with my system... If a crash does happen with this forum server ...it is the same ...you will not say every where that this forum is risky for this. Please do not only talk on one side...risk free systems do exist...at least one...my U2 system...(lol) Knowing nothing about my system is not an excuse for saying wrong things...
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South Park
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October 28, 2016, 04:07:25 PM |
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This is probably the biggest issue: the latest websites are even hard to prove that they are fake. Cloud mining websites were the most profitable ones a few years ago making MILLIONS in profits, but now it looks like almost everyone finally understood it's just a fake business. Fake for us, extremely profitable for them. Make sure you look up the websites on Google before you register and try them out. Search for reviews of that website and be careful, there might be even fake reviews. Fake websites got fake reviews and fake user counts and stuff like that. For example, there was a website a while ago that used to fake their user counting so whenever you refreshed you got a random number of users. There are plenty of things you can find suspicious on websites.
Yep and the bad thing is that doing that is extremely easy and cheap, in order to create a script that in every refresh increases the number of users is extremely easy, just a few lines of code that anyone can do.
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October 28, 2016, 05:43:34 PM |
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well, you know that the site you want to rip you always give false evidence unreasonable or give promos beyond common sense. it usually gets people interested to try it. with promises that he will give hundreds of $ if you do what the site said. Well, it is easy to see the site as it was, because I've been several times to join the site as it was
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