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November 13, 2016, 06:40:02 AM |
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Its simple they know everyone wants to earn money without doing practically anything so they promised that to you that you won't do anything then they move further to promise you mouthwatering returns which in most cases even if you work for it you likely might not earn that. So this two put together is a sign of scam and nothing more.,.
But I believe these are only applicable to the new sites and especially which are investments based like HYIP programs or pyramid kind of schemes. But, I feel it would be too hard to identify a well running business which may turn into scam by their business collapse or due to change in policy. Even if we are unable to identify a potential scam, we must always act responsible by not risking big like withdrawing partial amounts time to time. That is what i feel too, because it is obviously detectable when a site comes newly to the market having big payrates and great returns as all hyips and ponzi schemes of past did or are already doing, but some websites does not offer such great returns but still they turn scam after some time, so identifying a scam like that is a great challenge really.
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winspiral
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November 13, 2016, 08:26:07 AM |
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Its simple they know everyone wants to earn money without doing practically anything so they promised that to you that you won't do anything then they move further to promise you mouthwatering returns which in most cases even if you work for it you likely might not earn that. So this two put together is a sign of scam and nothing more.,.
But I believe these are only applicable to the new sites and especially which are investments based like HYIP programs or pyramid kind of schemes. But, I feel it would be too hard to identify a well running business which may turn into scam by their business collapse or due to change in policy. Even if we are unable to identify a potential scam, we must always act responsible by not risking big like withdrawing partial amounts time to time. That is what i feel too, because it is obviously detectable when a site comes newly to the market having big payrates and great returns as all hyips and ponzi schemes of past did or are already doing, but some websites does not offer such great returns but still they turn scam after some time, so identifying a scam like that is a great challenge really. It is very very funny... I'm not new on the market (till over 20 years) I do promise low payrates(and only if I have them already) I have never scammed And above all I am taken for a scammer. This shows us that scam has till nice days before it...because people know nothing... So long people can not see who is honnestNNNthey can not see who is scammer. People prefer a "perhaps 100 satoshi" than a "sure 400 satoshi from winspiral because the prefer nice scammer sites and not "horribly designed wonspiral's sites... So is life...(lol) But so is fun...
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carlisle1
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November 13, 2016, 10:46:29 AM |
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It is impossible to know... i offer for free daily 20000 satoshi... and so many people believe that winspiral is a scammer... but they only believe it... So far it is impossible to know if winspiral will ...a day...be a scammer...and tries to scam you... Even meself does not know it...(lol)
lmao . it is ridiculous that even winspiral himself don't know he's going to scam some people . by the way I agree with you , it seems too impossible to know if a certain website or a person is going to commit a scam . as a matter of fact in some online game i have been through in some transaction which we are trading a stuff into a game credit and they are skeptic , thinking that i am going to run their credit so they decided to call a GM just to make him a middleman . meaning to say that it is really hard to trust even in a well known person .
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November 13, 2016, 11:25:36 AM |
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It is impossible to know... i offer for free daily 20000 satoshi... and so many people believe that winspiral is a scammer... but they only believe it... So far it is impossible to know if winspiral will ...a day...be a scammer...and tries to scam you... Even meself does not know it...(lol)
lmao . it is ridiculous that even winspiral himself don't know he's going to scam some people . by the way I agree with you , it seems too impossible to know if a certain website or a person is going to commit a scam . as a matter of fact in some online game i have been through in some transaction which we are trading a stuff into a game credit and they are skeptic , thinking that i am going to run their credit so they decided to call a GM just to make him a middleman . meaning to say that it is really hard to trust even in a well known person . Nope some other site has indicators if they try to scam people and mostly they are existing on hyip sites where are giving huge return back of profits if you invest some huge money, and if you fall for that promotion well you'll be sorry and surely will cry since they will not last for long if that indicator i mean will occur, just be more vigilant and signs where actually floating if they are on scam mode.
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November 13, 2016, 02:59:25 PM |
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It is impossible to know... i offer for free daily 20000 satoshi... and so many people believe that winspiral is a scammer... but they only believe it... So far it is impossible to know if winspiral will ...a day...be a scammer...and tries to scam you... Even meself does not know it...(lol)
lmao . it is ridiculous that even winspiral himself don't know he's going to scam some people . by the way I agree with you , it seems too impossible to know if a certain website or a person is going to commit a scam . as a matter of fact in some online game i have been through in some transaction which we are trading a stuff into a game credit and they are skeptic , thinking that i am going to run their credit so they decided to call a GM just to make him a middleman . meaning to say that it is really hard to trust even in a well known person . Nope some other site has indicators if they try to scam people and mostly they are existing on hyip sites where are giving huge return back of profits if you invest some huge money, and if you fall for that promotion well you'll be sorry and surely will cry since they will not last for long if that indicator i mean will occur, just be more vigilant and signs where actually floating if they are on scam mode. It is not always true man, some websites don't even leave any clue or any sign of scam but they still scam some people in the middle which makes them suspicious later on and they know if people stop investing with them they will be broke so they just run away before that happens, such scams have also been seen in past.
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winspiral
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November 13, 2016, 03:08:40 PM |
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It is impossible to know... i offer for free daily 20000 satoshi... and so many people believe that winspiral is a scammer... but they only believe it... So far it is impossible to know if winspiral will ...a day...be a scammer...and tries to scam you... Even meself does not know it...(lol)
lmao . it is ridiculous that even winspiral himself don't know he's going to scam some people . by the way I agree with you , it seems too impossible to know if a certain website or a person is going to commit a scam . as a matter of fact in some online game i have been through in some transaction which we are trading a stuff into a game credit and they are skeptic , thinking that i am going to run their credit so they decided to call a GM just to make him a middleman . meaning to say that it is really hard to trust even in a well known person . Nope some other site has indicators if they try to scam people and mostly they are existing on hyip sites where are giving huge return back of profits if you invest some huge money, and if you fall for that promotion well you'll be sorry and surely will cry since they will not last for long if that indicator i mean will occur, just be more vigilant and signs where actually floating if they are on scam mode. It is not always true man, some websites don't even leave any clue or any sign of scam but they still scam some people in the middle which makes them suspicious later on and they know if people stop investing with them they will be broke so they just run away before that happens, such scams have also been seen in past. Why is the probability very low that I run away with all your money you have pending in my U2 system? Because you have only 0.05 BTC pending and if I run away I will lose more...(lol) And so long I keep up payouting following the payout rules,I believe my members will trust my system. My system is so genious (lol) that noboddy risks much if I scam members... Most of my members are winners even if i run away...and the other ones will just lose few satoshi. But honestly...why should I run away with 0.05BTC...after over 20 years honest service(helping people earning on the net)
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November 13, 2016, 05:17:03 PM |
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Well, it is very easy to know that it wants a fool you. Well, initially they offered promo very makes you want to try, and even with minimal investments they offer, you can make a very big advantage. Well, so many things that do not make sense that they are promoting, and all it requires substantial capital. Well, be careful in choosing the site to run your business
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November 14, 2016, 02:46:40 AM |
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Well, it is very easy to know that it wants a fool you. Well, initially they offered promo very makes you want to try, and even with minimal investments they offer, you can make a very big advantage. Well, so many things that do not make sense that they are promoting, and all it requires substantial capital. Well, be careful in choosing the site to run your business
Most of the time you can already know it because they are guaranteeing things that can not be made without any doubts. Its mostly too good to be true..
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electronicash
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November 14, 2016, 03:48:26 AM |
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Well, it is very easy to know that it wants a fool you. Well, initially they offered promo very makes you want to try, and even with minimal investments they offer, you can make a very big advantage. Well, so many things that do not make sense that they are promoting, and all it requires substantial capital. Well, be careful in choosing the site to run your business
Most of the time you can already know it because they are guaranteeing things that can not be made without any doubts. Its mostly too good to be true.. Generally its a scam if they ask money. So if that is going on, you should be suspicious enough to see its a scam. you can then imagine them with a bag of money laughing while hysterically running away going to mexico.
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JeffBrad12
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November 14, 2016, 05:54:30 AM |
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It is impossible to know... i offer for free daily 20000 satoshi... and so many people believe that winspiral is a scammer... but they only believe it... So far it is impossible to know if winspiral will ...a day...be a scammer...and tries to scam you... Even meself does not know it...(lol)
lmao . it is ridiculous that even winspiral himself don't know he's going to scam some people . by the way I agree with you , it seems too impossible to know if a certain website or a person is going to commit a scam . as a matter of fact in some online game i have been through in some transaction which we are trading a stuff into a game credit and they are skeptic , thinking that i am going to run their credit so they decided to call a GM just to make him a middleman . meaning to say that it is really hard to trust even in a well known person . Nope some other site has indicators if they try to scam people and mostly they are existing on hyip sites where are giving huge return back of profits if you invest some huge money, and if you fall for that promotion well you'll be sorry and surely will cry since they will not last for long if that indicator i mean will occur, just be more vigilant and signs where actually floating if they are on scam mode. It is not always true man, some websites don't even leave any clue or any sign of scam but they still scam some people in the middle which makes them suspicious later on and they know if people stop investing with them they will be broke so they just run away before that happens, such scams have also been seen in past. My system is so genious (lol) that noboddy risks much if I scam members... Most of my members are winners even if i run away...and the other ones will just lose few satoshi. But honestly...why should I run away with 0.05BTC...after over 20 years honest service(helping people earning on the net) I could have Imagined if you said most of your members are winners. And in my mind it was opposite with your results. They were lost his money. 20 years, and you might have become a big liar.
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Mastsetad
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November 14, 2016, 06:45:03 AM |
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Well, it is very easy to know that it wants a fool you. Well, initially they offered promo very makes you want to try, and even with minimal investments they offer, you can make a very big advantage. Well, so many things that do not make sense that they are promoting, and all it requires substantial capital. Well, be careful in choosing the site to run your business
Most of the time you can already know it because they are guaranteeing things that can not be made without any doubts. Its mostly too good to be true.. Though you are right that most of the times those scam sites tell you themselves by offering things which are completely out of our minds which means they are too good to be true, but sometimes even the sites without such things run away with the money of people, that is what makes us suspicious about every second site we see these days.
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winspiral
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November 14, 2016, 11:57:54 AM |
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It is impossible to know... i offer for free daily 20000 satoshi... and so many people believe that winspiral is a scammer... but they only believe it... So far it is impossible to know if winspiral will ...a day...be a scammer...and tries to scam you... Even meself does not know it...(lol)
lmao . it is ridiculous that even winspiral himself don't know he's going to scam some people . by the way I agree with you , it seems too impossible to know if a certain website or a person is going to commit a scam . as a matter of fact in some online game i have been through in some transaction which we are trading a stuff into a game credit and they are skeptic , thinking that i am going to run their credit so they decided to call a GM just to make him a middleman . meaning to say that it is really hard to trust even in a well known person . Nope some other site has indicators if they try to scam people and mostly they are existing on hyip sites where are giving huge return back of profits if you invest some huge money, and if you fall for that promotion well you'll be sorry and surely will cry since they will not last for long if that indicator i mean will occur, just be more vigilant and signs where actually floating if they are on scam mode. It is not always true man, some websites don't even leave any clue or any sign of scam but they still scam some people in the middle which makes them suspicious later on and they know if people stop investing with them they will be broke so they just run away before that happens, such scams have also been seen in past. My system is so genious (lol) that noboddy risks much if I scam members... Most of my members are winners even if i run away...and the other ones will just lose few satoshi. But honestly...why should I run away with 0.05BTC...after over 20 years honest service(helping people earning on the net) I could have Imagined if you said most of your members are winners. And in my mind it was opposite with your results. They were lost his money. 20 years, and you might have become a big liar. I do not see why you say winspiral is a liar...what have I said wrong? So far "zero" person has lost by winspiral...some have so far not earned yet...but never lost because it is by principle not possible. I propose you a deal...try to lose and I send you 3 times so much you lost. Be warned...it's impossible. when I said "lost few satoshi" in previous post...it means "lost earned satoshi" because you can not lose your own satoshi,only earned satoshi earned from winspiral.
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November 14, 2016, 01:18:34 PM |
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Well, it is very easy to know that it wants a fool you. Well, initially they offered promo very makes you want to try, and even with minimal investments they offer, you can make a very big advantage. Well, so many things that do not make sense that they are promoting, and all it requires substantial capital. Well, be careful in choosing the site to run your business
Most of the time you can already know it because they are guaranteeing things that can not be made without any doubts. Its mostly too good to be true.. Though you are right that most of the times those scam sites tell you themselves by offering things which are completely out of our minds which means they are too good to be true, but sometimes even the sites without such things run away with the money of people, that is what makes us suspicious about every second site we see these days. Basically it is indeed to know the site do scam is hard to tell the difference, because sometimes there are scam sites that are looking for a pattern of a fairly massive advertising, so sometimes we get screwed or in circumvention by the way they conduct the introduction or advertisement. And usually they are scam sites that give you an advantage or a facility outside of what we spend, keep trusting proven sites rather than sites that have not been proven and established since long
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November 14, 2016, 10:24:59 PM |
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Well there is many obvious signs of the scam sites, for example they ask for money without offering real service , or they haven't real local or exact address or phone number
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jeraldskie11
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November 14, 2016, 10:56:22 PM |
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I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.
How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?
1. Scan the site, there are have a malware/virus on the site. 2. Look at company profile. Then research it. 3. Look at the system. Don't easy to believe you can earn high commission just doing useless thing. High commission is mostly use by site scam to steal your money. 4. Don't easy to believe because the site has been run for more than a year/2 years. Point 3, look at system. There are some my opinion points. Even you had already scan the site, they are scam if they not pay you. I have an experience about the that. The site has full protection, the site has 50,000 members, the I join because of that. I earned money but because I'm a beginner I invest all my money so that after a few days the site is gone.
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john2231
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November 14, 2016, 11:20:55 PM |
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I am writing about the sites where you have to make a deposit before buy and the site offers to act as a MM in deals.
How could I know when they are trying to scam me? In general, how do I know if a MM site is trusted?
1. Scan the site, there are have a malware/virus on the site. 2. Look at company profile. Then research it. 3. Look at the system. Don't easy to believe you can earn high commission just doing useless thing. High commission is mostly use by site scam to steal your money. 4. Don't easy to believe because the site has been run for more than a year/2 years. Point 3, look at system. There are some my opinion points. Even you had already scan the site, they are scam if they not pay you. I have an experience about the that. The site has full protection, the site has 50,000 members, the I join because of that. I earned money but because I'm a beginner I invest all my money so that after a few days the site is gone. I think those methods don't need to do when you are getting into hyip or cloud mining site.. be wise and smart. Because there is no site are giving free money just to invest. and always check their reviews from reputative members or old members here .. that can help you to have idea if the site is scam or not.. if there is proof of payment we can not be still consider it as legit because they know giving proof is one of the best way for attractive people to deal or invest its a marketing strategy,, If they are offering free money just for wait for few days it can be scam or best way better to ask and make threads here about the site so that we can know if they are legit or not..
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I recently was browsing through some bitcoin services and I noticed some scammy practices. Some of fraudulent sites I checked had nice "About Us" section. They posted names and pictures of the their staff and short description. I smelled something fishy is going on there and after brief search I found the pictures of 'their staff' used on other sites as well. Details, such as position and name were changed of course.
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November 15, 2016, 11:15:59 AM |
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I recently was browsing through some bitcoin services and I noticed some scammy practices. Some of fraudulent sites I checked had nice "About Us" section. They posted names and pictures of the their staff and short description. I smelled something fishy is going on there and after brief search I found the pictures of 'their staff' used on other sites as well. Details, such as position and name were changed of course.
that's definitely stock photos which can be purchased widely in stock website,that's shady practice of scamming people through out taking advantage from the lack of knowledge and the lazyness of people for not having an investigation before investing,just need a smart step to checking it out and you can avoid any of these sites and such kind
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November 15, 2016, 04:29:38 PM |
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Well there is many obvious signs of the scam sites, for example they ask for money without offering real service , or they haven't real local or exact address or phone number
You can find many site like this on deep web.I totally shock on how much the deepweb is change for now.There are many link in hidden wiki about totally scamming service that only rob our money.For example the most stupid but many people fall for it is btc doubler.Just think logic how can they double our bitcoin in short of time ? At here we already know that this site is totally scamming.
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November 15, 2016, 04:48:00 PM |
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Almost all websites with high and fast return promises are scams. Before anything else try to know what the site produces, to know where the profit comes from. That is, if there really is something being produced...
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