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October 27, 2016, 07:05:42 AM
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Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=514321

I had to pay him 5.4 BTC for 21,895.66 ICNs

Screenshot of his ICN account sent by him: http://s21.postimg.org/5bm5k0xef/image.jpg

As per our agreement, on 18th October, I paid him 3BTC in advance and then he had to transfer me his ICONOMI account and email ID, but after the first payment he disappeared.

Transaction ID of 3 BTC: https://blockchain.info/tx/2df9901f338d195461cd34c205dfbca154ce1d0ba740c3cdf23d7908fd2531d3

Our agreement and his signature:


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Hash: SHA512

I Oksana28 ( Aka James ) is selling my ICN account to CoinMega.
Here's the agreement from CoinMega :
"I will send you 3 BTC and you'll handover the ICONOMI ICO account with 21,000 ICNs in it. I'll then send 2.4 BTC before 30th of October. The total amount to be paid is 5.4 BTC"

My BTC address for all transaction will be: 1P86ApfWg62kwz1Zb1anYxrAN1LkRGwDdR

If the above address does not get required money then the above signed message with agreement will be assumed void.
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His message after I sent him 3 BTC:

let there be atleast 1 confirmation , and now i am sending you account info and email , but can you tell me till when should i wait for next payment. and when can i access my email?

regards,
Oksana28

He has not logged in since but his Bitcoins address is active and there are two withdrawals today.

I know it's probably impossible to get the money back now. I also understand that I should have used an escrow.

I just want to know what should I do now?

Thanks you.
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October 27, 2016, 07:43:10 AM
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Damn, another one of them. I think you have been scammed, mate. i understand that you would want to go first - but always use escrow man.

Screenshot could have easily been faked... And also the signed message means nothing if he isn't going to keep his word.

Sorry for your loss. 3 BTC is a lot to me and it may or may not be for you.
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October 27, 2016, 01:55:33 PM
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Damn, another one of them. I think you have been scammed, mate. i understand that you would want to go first - but always use escrow man.

Screenshot could have easily been faked... And also the signed message means nothing if he isn't going to keep his word.

Sorry for your loss. 3 BTC is a lot to me and it may or may not be for you.

Thanks mate.
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Do the mods give email id and/or IP address of the scammer in these cases?
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October 27, 2016, 02:09:23 PM
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Ok first of all leave a scam accusation feedback in his profile so other members would avoid to deal with him unless solved.
Then yes i feel sorry for your loss and yes: his profile already had someone painting him and you didnt use an escrow...i know you know but...

Possibly ask a DT member to tag him while the scam accusation is open.
Let's see if he desists...
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October 27, 2016, 02:19:03 PM
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Ok first of all leave a scam accusation feedback in his profile so other members would avoid to deal with him unless solved.
Then yes i feel sorry for your loss and yes: his profile already had someone painting him and you didnt use an escrow...i know you know but...

Possibly ask a DT member to tag him while the scam accusation is open.
Let's see if he desists...
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Thanks. I was really stupid not to use an escrow; was very busy that day and just wanted to complete the trade ASAP.

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October 27, 2016, 02:30:32 PM
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Mods don't give emails or IP addresses (they don't even have access to IP , only admins do as far as I know) and also don't ban scammers , a DefaultTrust member should leave him a negative trust so he can't trade with other people In case he comes back.

ICONOMI'S ICO is now finished I suppose so If he didn't withdraw his funds yet , you could contact https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=888936 and explain the situation for him (link him to this thread) and hopefully , he could give you that account since the username is visible.


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October 27, 2016, 02:40:49 PM
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Mods don't give emails or IP addresses (they don't even have access to IP , only admins do as far as I know) and also don't ban scammers , a DefaultTrust member should leave him a negative trust so he can't trade with other people In case he comes back.

ICONOMI'S ICO is now finished I suppose so If he didn't withdraw his funds yet , you could contact https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=888936 and explain the situation for him (link him to this thread) and hopefully , he could give you that account since the username is visible.

Thanks for your reply. I contacted ICONOMI support before creating this thread but they are not even willing to give his email address.

Edit: For those who misunderstood me - I am not blaming ICONOMI; they are absolutely correct for not giving any details. It is also possible that, "IF" oksana28's intentions was to scam, he must have edited the ICO username in the screenshot or sent someone else's screenshot.
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October 27, 2016, 03:40:46 PM
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Mods don't give emails or IP addresses (they don't even have access to IP , only admins do as far as I know) and also don't ban scammers , a DefaultTrust member should leave him a negative trust so he can't trade with other people In case he comes back.

ICONOMI'S ICO is now finished I suppose so If he didn't withdraw his funds yet , you could contact https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=888936 and explain the situation for him (link him to this thread) and hopefully , he could give you that account since the username is visible.

Thanks for your reply. I contacted ICONOMI support before creating this thread but they are not even willing to give his email address.

They won't give you anything based on their policy, I think you should have used someone as an escrow before doing this trade...
This ain't a good behavior, dear... Sad
TBH, you should never trust anyone here when trading such large amounts...
Currently, people don't even trust for BTC0.01, then how did you send BTC3 to a person you didn't even know???

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October 27, 2016, 03:50:38 PM
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Thanks for your reply. I contacted ICONOMI support before creating this thread but they are not even willing to give his email address.
That would be wrong from their side for confiding into your personal matters.Moreover,they can't really give your your ICN's back I believe.

-Has oksana logged in after you sent him the coins ?

-Is he aware of this thread ?

-If he hasn't seen this thread or your pm on bitcointalk,maybe he is busy and you should just wait before jumping to conclusions.

-Otherwise,don't fall for any trust feedbacks around bitcointalk,no matter whom you're dealing with,let it be anyone,always use an escrow.

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October 27, 2016, 03:55:20 PM
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Thanks for your reply. I contacted ICONOMI support before creating this thread but they are not even willing to give his email address.
That would be wrong from their side for confiding into your personal matters.Moreover,they can't really give your your ICN's back I believe.

-Has oksana logged in after you sent him the coins ?

-Is he aware of this thread ?

-If he hasn't seen this thread or your pm on bitcointalk,maybe he is busy and you should just wait before jumping to conclusions.

-Otherwise,don't fall for any trust feedbacks around bitcointalk,no matter whom you're dealing with,let it be anyone,always use an escrow.

is really true that what ever amount of bitcoin transaction is their , use escrow to avoid this type of getting scam problem. Iconomi wont help you as this is your mistake , why even Iconomi team have set one user to be used as escrow for ICN coins through iconomi admins. Even then if you have done this then nothing can be done, just wait for some time, if even then you are not getting reply, just start a scam accusation against the user so that DT members will remind him and give me negative trust.

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Thanks for your reply. I contacted ICONOMI support before creating this thread but they are not even willing to give his email address.
That would be wrong from their side for confiding into your personal matters.Moreover,they can't really give your your ICN's back I believe.

-Has oksana logged in after you sent him the coins ?

-Is he aware of this thread ?

-If he hasn't seen this thread or your pm on bitcointalk,maybe he is busy and you should just wait before jumping to conclusions.

-Otherwise,don't fall for any trust feedbacks around bitcointalk,no matter whom you're dealing with,let it be anyone,always use an escrow.

I understand, ICONOMI won't and shouldn't provide me any details, I do not have any problem with that.
- Yup, he has logged in for two days after I sent him coins.

- He may or may not be aware of this thread. I did send him a PM notifying him that I'll be creating a thread. Can't do anything more than that because  do not have anything other than his BCT username.

- I understand that he might be busy that's why I waited 8 days before creating this thread. I created this thread only after seeing withdrawal activity in his Bitcoin address. I have also used "possibly" in my thread title.

- Got that ;-)


They won't give you anything based on their policy, I think you should have used someone as an escrow before doing this trade...
This ain't a good behavior, dear... Sad
TBH, you should never trust anyone here when trading such large amounts...
Currently, people don't even trust for BTC0.01, then how did you send BTC3 to a person you didn't even know???
I know they won't, I do not have any problem with that. Any respectable company would not give details without concrete proofs (which I don't have) but it doesn't hurt asking Wink

is really true that what ever amount of bitcoin transaction is their , use escrow to avoid this type of getting scam problem. Iconomi wont help you as this is your mistake , why even Iconomi team have set one user to be used as escrow for ICN coins through iconomi admins. Even then if you have done this then nothing can be done, just wait for some time, if even then you are not getting reply, just start a scam accusation against the user so that DT members will remind him and give me negative trust.
Got that, thanks.
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I chatted with oksana28 on 20 and again on 21 I tried to chat and I got to know that he had some accident at Sharjah, and from then his phone is out of reach.

I had previously used his service and he is a altcoin developer.

Thanks for your reply, it's sad that he had an accident (if it is true). I really don't think he is a scammer, that's why I waited for 8 days before creating this thread.

I paid him on 18th and he was online on 19th and 20th.

The 3 Bitcoins that I sent were withdrawn on 19th.

There were two withdrawals from his Bitcoin address today.
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I left him negative trust, but he probably won't ever log on again using that account.

3 bitcoin for 400 posts - that's a pretty good wage you paid him!

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3 BTC is a lot of money considering the BTC price is rising and rising to nearly $700 USD now, always use an escrow for such big amount is always a safer way, take it as a painful lesson Cry
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October 28, 2016, 08:23:52 PM
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The dude probably bought an iPhone 7 with the booty you provided him. I think your best shot is finding him in some night club in Dubai.
Now he will claim that his mother/father/sister/brother/cat/dog got in an accident and is in hospital so phone is off and he is off the forum.

Next time think twice before entrusting Internet people with cash  Wink
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October 29, 2016, 07:06:12 AM
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The dude probably bought an iPhone 7 with the booty you provided him. I think your best shot is finding him in some night club in Dubai.
Now he will claim that his mother/father/sister/brother/cat/dog got in an accident and is in hospital so phone is off and he is off the forum.

Next time think twice before entrusting Internet people with cash  Wink

Very funny, imo op didn't use escrow? It is too naive.
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October 29, 2016, 08:01:26 AM
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I left him negative trust, but he probably won't ever log on again using that account.

3 bitcoin for 400 posts - that's a pretty good wage you paid him!

Haha, well thank you.

3 BTC is a lot of money considering the BTC price is rising and rising to nearly $700 USD now, always use an escrow for such big amount is always a safer way, take it as a painful lesson Cry

Thanks. Yes, a painful lesson.

The dude probably bought an iPhone 7 with the booty you provided him. I think your best shot is finding him in some night club in Dubai.
Now he will claim that his mother/father/sister/brother/cat/dog got in an accident and is in hospital so phone is off and he is off the forum.

Next time think twice before entrusting Internet people with cash  Wink

Will keep that in mind. It's first time I have ever been scammed in my whole life. I was really busy and wanted to complete the trade ASAP and he had some positive feedback too, will always use an escrow now.

Very funny, imo op didn't use escrow? It is too naive.

I am glad you find this funny.
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October 29, 2016, 04:24:11 PM
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Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=514321

I had to pay him 5.4 BTC for 21,895.66 ICNs

Screenshot of his ICN account sent by him: http://s21.postimg.org/5bm5k0xef/image.jpg

As per our agreement, on 18th October, I paid him 3BTC in advance and then he had to transfer me his ICONOMI account and email ID, but after the first payment he disappeared.

Transaction ID of 3 BTC: https://blockchain.info/tx/2df9901f338d195461cd34c205dfbca154ce1d0ba740c3cdf23d7908fd2531d3

Our agreement and his signature:


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

I Oksana28 ( Aka James ) is selling my ICN account to CoinMega.
Here's the agreement from CoinMega :
"I will send you 3 BTC and you'll handover the ICONOMI ICO account with 21,000 ICNs in it. I'll then send 2.4 BTC before 30th of October. The total amount to be paid is 5.4 BTC"

My BTC address for all transaction will be: 1P86ApfWg62kwz1Zb1anYxrAN1LkRGwDdR

If the above address does not get required money then the above signed message with agreement will be assumed void.
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Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.58
Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

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Rojbr58exzYCsm9r6Mq9JYlifVjvypJhcAGwpdrJ4au/KtltGuFewRC5fiYn4xH4
wTONuV4/cTPDCHMHE6H1flmHPbkXuiRG0OMHOxJQuq/kw4eR+m53ZTd+kjQU0yEF
qKawOrFPIxIb4rkH2yDt4ZBL6SIvFHOAISh2TSotF/55X8/xndvzfUz8bEH/dpjA
DV2GfHzhie6DbTKiBjZOq/g7PgVXkB3WGkxO+QW8dK3zZFOK7rlyPob2rkTsRC41
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His message after I sent him 3 BTC:

let there be atleast 1 confirmation , and now i am sending you account info and email , but can you tell me till when should i wait for next payment. and when can i access my email?

regards,
Oksana28

He has not logged in since but his Bitcoins address is active and there are two withdrawals today.

I know it's probably impossible to get the money back now. I also understand that I should have used an escrow.

I just want to know what should I do now?

Thanks you.

Say what you like OP ~ what you claim doesn't make sense at all.  I call this entire post bullshit.




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October 29, 2016, 04:41:20 PM
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Say what you like OP ~ what you claim doesn't make sense at all.  I call this entire post bullshit.
Whatever you just posted doesn't make sense to me either.I call your one liner post utter bullshit unless you have something to back you up.So I shall be waiting for a detailed explaination of the other side of the story from your next post.

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October 29, 2016, 04:47:54 PM
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as aaallll the other guys above said always use an escrow but for a coin, you can wait till hit the exchange , and dont FOMO
sorry for your loss anyway!  Undecided
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