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December 02, 2016, 05:08:33 PM |
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I think we are more anxious to see claymore linux comparable version for ANY type of hardware than reading NV/AMD comparing.
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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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December 02, 2016, 05:30:32 PM Last edit: December 02, 2016, 06:50:46 PM by Amph |
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Obvious Nvidia fanboy, ignoring reality. Sure, your 1060s that cost $250 can hash SLOWER than a 470, which costs $175. You may never make up your extra $75 because it hashes slower, therefore you are losing potential money. Your point on 1070 vs 2 480s is sad joke for sure. Why would anyone in their right mind miss out on hundreds or thousands of extra dollars, just to pinch a few pennies for power? Your resale argument is incorrect. Resale of 480 won't be nearly as terrible as you say, AMD holds value due to mining popularity, but of course you are a fanboy, so you ignore this. And again, you ignore this thing called opportunity cost. You also missed out on the first month of lucrative mining, all the while whining about people not making fast miners for 10% of the miners. Ever wonder why no one cares to make good Nvidia miner? it is because miners do not buy Nvidia for profit, they buy it for epeen.
they cost the same here 220 euro(i can find it at lowest price on an unconventional store), and they hash the same, 165 sol vs 170 sol, so dunno why you are still there saying otherwise but nvidia is more efficient at 70 watt vs 90 watt for a 470 resale value for 4GB version is a joke, gamers want 6GB at least nowadays, and 480 8gb is the only choice for them but not for miners
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laik2
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December 02, 2016, 05:52:13 PM |
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Obvious Nvidia fanboy, ignoring reality. Sure, your 1060s that cost $250 can hash SLOWER than a 470, which costs $175. You may never make up your extra $75 because it hashes slower, therefore you are losing potential money. Your point on 1070 vs 2 480s is sad joke for sure. Why would anyone in their right mind miss out on hundreds or thousands of extra dollars, just to pinch a few pennies for power? Your resale argument is incorrect. Resale of 480 won't be nearly as terrible as you say, AMD holds value due to mining popularity, but of course you are a fanboy, so you ignore this. And again, you ignore this thing called opportunity cost. You also missed out on the first month of lucrative mining, all the while whining about people not making fast miners for 10% of the miners. Ever wonder why no one cares to make good Nvidia miner? it is because miners do not buy Nvidia for profit, they buy it for epeen.
they cost the same here 220 euro, and they hash the same, 165 sol vs 170 sol, so dunno why you are still there saying otherwise but nvidia is more efficient at 70 watt vs 90 watt for a 470 resale value for 4GB version is joke, gamers want 6GB nowadays, and 480 8gb is the only choice for them but not for miners Ok...I'm getting a bit angry with this argue so let me explain some stuff around here. 1. NVidia will never catch AMD in regard of OpenCL implementation and therefore creating decent miner based on OpenCL will always be AMD priority. 2. AMD will never implement CUDA(a bit stupid to mention but anyway...) therefore cuda optimized miners will outperform OpenCL ones. Most of coders prefer OpenCL over CUDA because of large amount of documentation and information. Regarding prices NVIDIA is more expensive of course, that's no delusion but also uses low power also no delusion. If you don't care about power consumption and heat and need to start mining ASAP - use AMD. If you care much about power and prefer slow start - use NVIDIA. Also...nvidia could be used for other stuff besides gaming. If some of you are willing to give up Nvidia and switch to AMD I am swapping RX 480 for 1070 ( no kiddin ).
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December 02, 2016, 06:19:13 PM |
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Could you please be so kind to move you basic debate somewhere else and stop spamming this thread? This is not the place for flaming and debating about which manufacturer is better nor which driver is better nor which smell does a fart of a rose will have.
PLEASE stop here the smarter one gives in...
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December 02, 2016, 06:25:17 PM |
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Stop it just let it be. Here is not the place to discuss whether NVIDIA or AMD is better nor AMD is better than NVIDIA. Move along and shut down this senseless flamewar.
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GTX 1080Ti rocks da house... seriously... this card is a beast³ Owning by now 18x GTX1080Ti :-D @serious love of efficiency
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December 02, 2016, 06:39:15 PM |
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I thought the work on v6 was almost done! ... not to rush or push, but with what is going on with Claymore & Optiminer's miners ... many are awaiting the new release ))))
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December 02, 2016, 06:46:17 PM |
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I thought the work on v6 was almost done! ... not to rush or push, but with what is going on with Claymore & Optiminer's miners ... many are awaiting the new release )))) THE OPTIMINER DEVELOPER STOPPED RELEASING HIS MINER-- His thread is still open on BitCoinTalk, but official releases are no longer posted for download. What is happening with Claymore? I guess I will check out his thread. I stopped reading it when I started usining Optiminer (linux/AMD). --scryptr
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krnlx
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December 02, 2016, 07:23:06 PM |
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zawawa doesn't own nvidia card(his words). So optimization should be expected on his AMD work by krnlx and possibly Genoil.
I am ready, but still no sources
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December 02, 2016, 07:41:33 PM |
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I think tonight will be the night when zawawa will make some steps towards us :-D
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GTX 1080Ti rocks da house... seriously... this card is a beast³ Owning by now 18x GTX1080Ti :-D @serious love of efficiency
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December 02, 2016, 08:56:04 PM |
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I think tonight will be the night when zawawa will make some steps towards us :-D
No, not tonight, i'm still waiting for delivery on some risers
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December 02, 2016, 09:04:09 PM |
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I have some spare risers "powered USB" and powered 16x to 16X ones :-D 100 on stock :-D So zawawa lets rock tonight..i also got some more cards and stuff for 2 more rigs :-D
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GTX 1080Ti rocks da house... seriously... this card is a beast³ Owning by now 18x GTX1080Ti :-D @serious love of efficiency
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December 02, 2016, 09:53:43 PM |
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I have some spare risers "powered USB" and powered 16x to 16X ones :-D 100 on stock :-D So zawawa lets rock tonight..i also got some more cards and stuff for 2 more rigs :-D
Richie Rich Throw some here...my risers are comming on monday.
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December 02, 2016, 10:25:43 PM |
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Was a practical consideration since I don't know how much i might need soon. But they where cheap so i ordered 100 for not even 200€ :-D
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GTX 1080Ti rocks da house... seriously... this card is a beast³ Owning by now 18x GTX1080Ti :-D @serious love of efficiency
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laik2
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December 02, 2016, 10:58:15 PM |
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Was a practical consideration since I don't know how much i might need soon. But they where cheap so i ordered 100 for not even 200€ :-D
Have one rig only, can't compare with you. We are still waiting for devs to throw a bone
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December 02, 2016, 11:41:37 PM |
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To be honest i throw all my money into mining rigs. Since euro is lost and savings are punished here..the best way is to invest into something better tHan fiat :-)
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GTX 1080Ti rocks da house... seriously... this card is a beast³ Owning by now 18x GTX1080Ti :-D @serious love of efficiency
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December 03, 2016, 12:01:11 AM |
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To be honest i throw all my money into mining rigs. Since euro is lost and savings are punished here..the best way is to invest into something better tHan fiat :-)
I am at the other side of the world, in south america, and i am thinking the same thing!. totally agree... maybe not good for some regions but here, even at the ridiculous cost of the hardware, it worth it.
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December 03, 2016, 12:21:43 AM |
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FIAT--
I thought Fiat stood for "Fix It Again Tony". Rust spots and all.... --scryptr
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December 03, 2016, 04:22:48 AM |
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FIAT--
I thought Fiat stood for "Fix It Again Tony". Rust spots and all.... --scryptr
FIAT = Fsck It's A Trabant
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No mining at the moment.
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laik2
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December 03, 2016, 08:24:55 AM |
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To be honest i throw all my money into mining rigs. Since euro is lost and savings are punished here..the best way is to invest into something better tHan fiat :-)
Agree. Just started mining 1 month ago. Earning is not a big deal but I can setup second rig in about 6/7 months.Which suits me allright.
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December 03, 2016, 08:30:26 AM |
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To be honest i throw all my money into mining rigs. Since euro is lost and savings are punished here..the best way is to invest into something better tHan fiat :-)
Agree. Just started mining 1 month ago. Earning is not a big deal but I can setup second rig in about 6/7 months.Which suits me allright. not sure if all this will keep for 6-7 months, everything is crashing now, if it was not for bitcoin high price it would be unprofitable already
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