Optiminer/Zcash v1.7 (GPU, Windows+Linux, AMD)

[jstefanop]

Very bad.. optiminer was almost as good as claymore.. only few sols less
Maybe someone can tell how to get private subscription?

THE CODER CODED FOR 10% DEV FEE WITHOUT TELLING USERS--

And that is after the dev fee reduction.  I am mining WITH the dev fee.  This is the best miner for AMD/Linux.  The crackers say the code is based on SilentArmy.

You add it up.       --scryptr

It was clearly stated on the web page that the miner had a fee. And the shown rates were with fee deducted, so no user was tricked into anything. Code is not based on anything other, I wrote it myself from scratch.

Regardless...you are still getting over 1k USD in dev fees from people like me that have been supporting you since day 1. Its not fair that you just pull the plug out of all the people that are paying you a ridiculous amount of money to use your miner. People will always circumvent fees, its the cost of doing business, and every dev can't get pissed off at their entire user base when a few users do this. Support the people that are supporting you, and don't worry about everything else. I would understand if you were making 10 bucks a day off this, but when your making this much the least you can do is to keep supporting the vast majority of people paying your fee. In the end you'll end up making more money this way.

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[tiennou]

Very bad.. optiminer was almost as good as claymore.. only few sols less
Maybe someone can tell how to get private subscription?

THE CODER CODED FOR 10% DEV FEE WITHOUT TELLING USERS--

And that is after the dev fee reduction.  I am mining WITH the dev fee.  This is the best miner for AMD/Linux.  The crackers say the code is based on SilentArmy.

You add it up.       --scryptr

It was clearly stated on the web page that the miner had a fee. And the shown rates were with fee deducted, so no user was tricked into anything. Code is not based on anything other, I wrote it myself from scratch.

That's one of the reasons why we (generally speaking) have laws for "abusive license agreement" for example.
The problem is there is asymmetric information : YOU know how much you're making, because you code it, and you chose it that way. But we don't. And that creates a completely untrustworthy context which makes people more willing to cheat you, because essentially, what you are doing is cheating us by not saying anything and parading behind a "what you see is what you get, nothing else matters".

If you're too afraid of clearly stating the fee, maybe it's because you know yourself that's its too high. And that's not how you get much support.

[osnwt]

"THE CODER CODED FOR 10% DEV FEE WITHOUT TELLING USERS--"  INCORRECT

"THE PERCENTAGE AND SIZE OF THE DEV FEE WAS NOT REPORTED--"  INCORRECT

"And, like I said, the sum of the Optiminer returns (miner net plus dev fee) is still reportedly less than Claymore's Zcash miner net.  He charges a clearly stated 2.5% fee."  INCORRECT

The crackers say the code is based on SilentArmy.  INCORRECT

While I appreciate Optiminer's software, let me comment this from a side point of view.

Plain fact: the devfee was first mentioned in the README only in version 0.3.1 (0.3.0 and below did not contain it).
Plain fact: the size of dev fee still is not officially reported.

I went to Optiminer after Claymore stopped Linux support. I found the name of the miner and looked at github to try it. I did not look at the source and was thinking that it is an open source (since github was made for open source projects, not binary releases). There was no mention on github (original distribution source), neither in README, that it contains any dev fee. I was amazed with its performance  and even more amazed when I read on forums that there is a dev fee in addition to hash rate shown. I can agree that it maybe was stated on forums, but shouldn't it be stated on the original source site and/or README, at last, if someone concerned about it?

If you look at the github, it contains original README evolved since version 0.1.1. Only in 0.3.2 change was declared "reduced dev fee" - then it was reduced from 15% to 10%. Please take a note that this percent still is not reported and never was in the README or forums by the author, and is the result of evaluation by curious guys.

So while I am not concerned about dev fee exact value, I should confirm that something said by your opponent was correct. I am not on someone's side, but for the true facts.

Talking about competition, at least now the statement is also correct after Claymore's v9 release. It mines at 212-215 Sol/s on my 470 4GB Hynix cards (downvolted, 915W from the wall for rig of 7 cards). Older cards have even better results: 234 for 7970 (and only 185 +10% fee = 203.5 for the same card with Optiminer), 200 for 7950, 312-315 for 390X. Claymore's miner was worse on Polaris vs Optiminer, but seems it is the winner now. At least while 0.7.0 is not released. Still, since Claymore doesn't like Linux, there is no other public alternative to Optiminer yet. Since hash rates were pushed to the top, all have to follow.

[optiminer]

Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash

[usefree]

Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash

it is interesting, but with new option --nodevfee mining speed is less than without it) And 1.0.1 version on 7980 is near 5-7% speed more than 0.6. r9 290x - without speed changes 

[osnwt]

it is interesting, but with new option --nodevfee mining speed is less than without it)

Same is true for Claymore's miner. The difference is that Claymore's one shows you full rate with nofee option, but obviously drops some percent of solutions (seems to be around 10% according to pool reports) instead of sending to the server (that is documented). This miner, at least, shows you true rate.

[nerdralph]

Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash

Seems no faster than 0.6 on Pitcairn and Tahiti.

[scavern]

I am seeing terrible performance on r9 380's... like 15 S/s...

Anyone have any suggestions?

[miropp]

I am seeing terrible performance on r9 380's... like 15 S/s...

Anyone have any suggestions?

2GB or 4GB card?

[tiennou]

Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash

Seems no faster than 0.6 on Pitcairn and Tahiti.

I honestly don't see the point of using 1.0.1. It's rather easy to circumvent the crazy fee in 0.6.0 and base hash + fee hash in 0.6.0 is above the base hash on 1.0.1 (with or without fee).
Plus optiminer now has implemented an ssl connection for his fee, connecting to his own (solo ?) mine (proxy.optiminer.pl:4041) which checks the certificate so impossible to hijack the connection now.
Trying to strace/dbg the process is crashing it so hard to say now how much fee he's pumping out of our rigs.

Long story short : I'll be sticking to 0.6.0 until there's another linux miner with a decent fee or until optiminer get his act together and adjust his with more transparency.

PS : my rx470 is hashing at (not counting fee hash)
~170sols/s with 1.0.1
~160sols/s with 0.6.0

[monsanto]

Are there any stability improvements in 1.0.1? I'm Just wondering if there's any point for me to try 1.0.1 if 0.6.0 always crashed one of my GPUs after 10-20 minutes (I got good hashrate while it lasted though).

[Ivanech]

Are there any stability improvements in 1.0.1? I'm Just wondering if there's any point for me to try 1.0.1 if 0.6.0 always crashed one of my GPUs after 10-20 minutes (I got good hashrate while it lasted though).

For me both 0.6.0 and 1.0.1 have stability issues in the case of unstable Internet connection. I have 2 identical Rigs, one with ethernet cable connection and another with Wi-Fi connection to the router.

For some reason the second (Wi-Fi) connected Rig spontaneously drops Internet connection for 5-10 seconds and this results Optiminer crashed. The same Rig connected to the same router via cable has Optiminer works very stable.

[tiennou]

Optiminer works very stable.

I've been running optiminer 0.6.0 on 3 rigs 24/7 since the day it's been released without a single crash (each rig has 4 rx470).
Indeed all ethernet connected, stable connection, stock GPUs, default options.

[Gorets]

Optiminer 1.0.1 restart every fev minutes,
[2016-12-12 20:35:34.562] [info] Optiminer/Zcash 1.0.0 (C) Optiminer 2016
[2016-12-12 20:35:34.562] [info] WatchDog: Executing "./watchdog-cmd.sh" if any GPU is stale for more than 60s.

OM 0.6 and other miner work good.
Kubuntu 15.10/ 3*R9 390

[Biodom]

Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash

Seems no faster than 0.6 on Pitcairn and Tahiti.

PS : my rx470 is hashing at (not counting fee hash)
~170sols/s with 1.0.1
~160sols/s with 0.6.0

so, you hacked the fee, but getting less on Rx 470 than with fee or i did not get your post.
I got 168mh/s long term average on MSI RX 470 on 0.6.0
I second stability of 0.6.0 on RX 470 rig(s). No impetus for unstable 1.0.1
Stability is of utmost importance for me. I don't have time to check them every hour.

[tiennou]

Public version 1.0.1 just released:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZcash

Seems no faster than 0.6 on Pitcairn and Tahiti.

PS : my rx470 is hashing at (not counting fee hash)
~170sols/s with 1.0.1
~160sols/s with 0.6.0

so, you hacked the fee, but getting less on Rx 470 than with fee or i did not get your post.
I got 168mh/s long term average on MSI RX 470 on 0.6.0
I second stability of 0.6.0 on RX 470 rig(s). No impetus for unstable 1.0.1
Stability is of utmost importance for me. I don't have time to check them every hour.

I'm getting more with 0.6.0 as I get own hash + fee hash than with 1.0.1 as I'd only get my own hash (which has barely changed).

[xleejohnx]

Can anyone drop the command line list for this miner

[scryptr]

Can anyone drop the command line list for this miner

OPTIMINER v1.0.1 HELP--

You can print out your own with "./optiminer-zcash --help > help.txt".  Then you will have a text reference file.

Here is the printout:

USAGE:

   ./optiminer-zcash  [--nodevfee] [-i <number>] ...  [-m <port>]
                      [--watchdog-cmd <command>] [--watchdog-timeout
                      <seconds>] [--max-log-files <count>]
                      [--max-log-file-size <bytes>] [-l <filename>] [-v]
                      [-p <string>] -u <string> -s <host:port> [-d
                      <integer>] ...  [-c <integer>] [--] [--version] [-h]


Where:

   --nodevfee
     If set, the dev fee will be disabled. Miner will run a bit slower.
     Enable this if you do not want any more improvements of the miner and
     want to earn less.

   -i <number>,  --intensity <number>  (accepted multiple times)
     Worker intensity. 0 means auto-detect based on available memory.
     Higher values use more GPU memory. Can be specified once applying the
     same intensity to all devices or once per device (same order as -d).

   -m <port>,  --monitoring-port <port>
     The monitoring port to listen on for HTTP requests. Disabled by
     default. If enabled, accepts requests from everywhere.

   --watchdog-cmd <command>
     The watchdog command to execute. See --watchdog-timeout.

   --watchdog-timeout <seconds>
     Timeout after which the watchdog triggers if a GPU does not produce
     any solutions. It will execute the command specified by
     --watchdog-cmd. You can use this command to do an appropriate action
     (e.g. reset driver or reboot). 0 disables watchdog.

   --max-log-files <count>
     Maximum number of rotated log files to keep.

   --max-log-file-size <bytes>
     Maximum size of log file before it gets rotated.

   -l <filename>,  --log-file <filename>
     Write logs to given file

   -v,  --verbose
     Verbose logging.

   -p <string>,  --password <string>
     Stratum password.

   -u <string>,  --user <string>
     (required)  Stratum user.

   -s <host:port>,  --stratum <host:port>
     (required)  Host and port of the stratum server to use.

   -d <integer>,  --device <integer>  (accepted multiple times)
     A OpenCL device id to use. If no devices are specified, all are used.

   -c <integer>,  --platform <integer>
     The OpenCL platform id to use.

   --,  --ignore_rest
     Ignores the rest of the labeled arguments following this flag.

   --version
     Displays version information and exits.

   -h,  --help
     Displays usage information and exits.


   (C) by Optiminer 2016

--scryptr

[ZanderM]

Dear Mr. and Mrs. Reader,

Can anyone confirm that v1.0.1 really doesn't have any improvements worthwhile mentioning?

As of what i have put together from the information gathered by reading your comments on this matter; it doesn't seem to be worth the hassle of booting up Linux, clone repo, extract, configure and do the testing.



Yours sincerely,

http://imgur.com/a/GmKBP
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ZanderM

[scryptr]

Dear Mr. and Mrs. Reader,

Can anyone confirm that v1.0.1 really doesn't have any improvements worthwhile mentioning?

As of what i have put together from the information gathered by reading your comments on this matter; it doesn't seem to be worth the hassle of booting up Linux, clone repo, extract, configure and do the testing.



Yours sincerely,


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ZanderM

VERSION  1.0.1 IS 7-10% FASTER--

Depending on the card or rig, this version is 7 percent to 10 percent faster.  All my cards hash faster than with version 0.0.6.

I think that the author should work to improve stability.       --scryptr