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November 30, 2016, 08:43:01 PM Last edit: December 01, 2016, 11:39:29 AM by DeadBirdzz |
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Prior to OcMiner and YiZ doing the real detective work and providing the undeniable Proof that this was a scam, there were all these warning signs that people chose to ignore. 1. Moderated Thread- Yes2. No Escrow with some BS excuse being given- Yes3. Code not being released until end of ICO - Yes4. No Original Whitepaper- Yes5. Bought "Legendary" Accounts Being Used- Yes6. Using simple wordpress template for a site that has supposedly been done by "notorious hackers"- Yes7. Aggressively Deleting any post that flags the above concerns- Yes8. Promising Dark Market and saying deal is already in place but need money first- Yes9. Saying it will be traded on the biggest exchanges at launch- Yes10- Similarities with the Zcrypt Scam- Yes11. ICO- Yes12. Placebo the Scammer actively shilling for this ICO- YesThese are just a few of the WARNING SIGNS that were there. Now if you consciously chose to IGNORE ALL THESE, then quite frankly, you are either filthy rich and don't give a fuck about losing your BTC or you're just a gambler and you should go to the casino instead. These Legendary members were also actively shilling for EBITZ: kbroadfoot https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=39489 and thezerg https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=55749Both these "legendary" accounts have had their email addresses changed recently, so these accounts have either been hacked or sold. thezerg was also proposing decentralized debit card for Ebitz.....guess who was also proposing those.....OPAIR....
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TrueAnon
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November 30, 2016, 08:44:53 PM |
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Wow nice work gents, glad I not invested.
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bitcoinuserz
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November 30, 2016, 08:45:43 PM |
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sucks that ICO has become a easy target for scammers
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gsxrboy
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November 30, 2016, 08:54:33 PM |
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ocminer (OP)
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November 30, 2016, 10:11:08 PM |
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And so fast it's on page #2
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BitPotus
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November 30, 2016, 10:34:57 PM |
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DeClouds, Opair and now EBitz, possibly all the same person.
Declouds was 200 BTC scam
Opair was 140 BTC scam
Ebitz is now 200 BTC scam
Conservative estimate would be that he could have made at least 300 BTC maybe in total because some of these investments would be coming from the scammer himself.
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November 30, 2016, 10:37:19 PM |
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DeClouds, Opair and now EBitz, possibly all the same person.
Declouds was 200 BTC scam
Opair was 140 BTC scam
Ebitz is now 200 BTC scam
Conservative estimate would be that he could have made at least 300 BTC maybe in total because some of these investments would be coming from the scammer himself.
I counted the latest Exbitch scam. I am pretty sure only 5-15btc scammed
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ocminer (OP)
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November 30, 2016, 10:37:35 PM |
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What makes you think declouds fits in here too?
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bolenath
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November 30, 2016, 10:41:27 PM |
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Wow, investing in crypto ICOs is like playing russian roulette with 5 bullets..
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November 30, 2016, 10:42:26 PM |
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Wow, investing in crypto ICOs is like playing russian roulette with 5 bullets..
6 Maybe one wont kill you.
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BitPotus
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November 30, 2016, 10:50:14 PM |
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What makes you think declouds fits in here too?
I remember people were pointing out that there were similarities between the opair scammer and declouds. it was being said on the declouds thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1552176.1080also the use of the "legendary" account as well. the declouds scammer apparently used a similar linked in profile to the opair one https://www.linkedin.com/in/stas-nikolaev- declouds https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankhrettig opair notice they both used: I´m an accomplished IT professional with vast experience in the development and delivery of IT solutions Since 2012 I have been interested in Bitcoin and, especially in the blockchain technology. / Since 2013 I have been interested iin the blockchain technology. It's just little details that give out the distinct impression that it's the same person who is modifying parts of a script to carry out different scams.
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ocminer (OP)
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November 30, 2016, 10:54:53 PM |
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What makes you think declouds fits in here too?
I remember people were pointing out that there were similarities between the opair scammer and declouds. it was being said on the declouds thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1552176.1080also the use of the "legendary" account as well. the declouds scammer apparently used a similar linked in profile to the opair one https://www.linkedin.com/in/stas-nikolaev- declouds https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankhrettig opair notice they both used: I´m an accomplished IT professional with vast experience in the development and delivery of IT solutions Since 2012 I have been interested in Bitcoin and, especially in the blockchain technology. / Since 2013 I have been interested iin the blockchain technology. It's just little details that give out the distinct impression that it's the same person who is modifying parts of a script to carry out different scams. Hmm interesting.. so this turns out to be a very well organized scam over the years.. IF the gets caught in the right country and IF you can find definite proofs which lead to him, he'll be in jail for a long time, thats for sure.
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ttookk
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November 30, 2016, 11:00:45 PM |
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At least in case of Declouds, a big portion of the BTC turned out to be invested by the scammer to bait others. Maybe this is true for opair and ebitz as well.
I think it's not easy to find this out, since the amount of people willing to admit that they got scammed is probably very small. Still, it would be interesting to have this information
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BitPotus
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November 30, 2016, 11:02:53 PM |
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What makes you think declouds fits in here too?
I remember people were pointing out that there were similarities between the opair scammer and declouds. it was being said on the declouds thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1552176.1080also the use of the "legendary" account as well. the declouds scammer apparently used a similar linked in profile to the opair one https://www.linkedin.com/in/stas-nikolaev- declouds https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankhrettig opair notice they both used: I´m an accomplished IT professional with vast experience in the development and delivery of IT solutions Since 2012 I have been interested in Bitcoin and, especially in the blockchain technology. / Since 2013 I have been interested iin the blockchain technology. It's just little details that give out the distinct impression that it's the same person who is modifying parts of a script to carry out different scams. Hmm interesting.. so this turns out to be a very well organized scam over the years.. IF the gets caught in the right country and IF you can find definite proofs which lead to him, he'll be in jail for a long time, thats for sure. nah, he fucked up with the fake pictures in the declouds scam. that what led him to being discovered. But he's learning and getting better from scam to scam and what is really infuriating is that you have all these idiots on here that are just eager to throw money at scammers despite being warned that a project is clearly a scam. Look at how Deadbirdzz got called a fudder and now he has red trust on his account despite being right. Granted, DeadBirdzz is slightly crazy and rude but all the same..... And that fucking PLacebo needs to be tracked as well. Am sure somebody somewhere lost enough money in his scams and is highly motivated to have some quality time with him. WHen the BTC value goes through the fucking roof, believe me, a lot of people who lost money in scams will start getting very very angry.
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ocminer (OP)
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November 30, 2016, 11:22:58 PM |
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What makes you think declouds fits in here too?
I remember people were pointing out that there were similarities between the opair scammer and declouds. it was being said on the declouds thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1552176.1080also the use of the "legendary" account as well. the declouds scammer apparently used a similar linked in profile to the opair one https://www.linkedin.com/in/stas-nikolaev- declouds https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankhrettig opair notice they both used: I´m an accomplished IT professional with vast experience in the development and delivery of IT solutions Since 2012 I have been interested in Bitcoin and, especially in the blockchain technology. / Since 2013 I have been interested iin the blockchain technology. It's just little details that give out the distinct impression that it's the same person who is modifying parts of a script to carry out different scams. Hmm interesting.. so this turns out to be a very well organized scam over the years.. IF the gets caught in the right country and IF you can find definite proofs which lead to him, he'll be in jail for a long time, thats for sure. nah, he fucked up with the fake pictures in the declouds scam. that what led him to being discovered. But he's learning and getting better from scam to scam and what is really infuriating is that you have all these idiots on here that are just eager to throw money at scammers despite being warned that a project is clearly a scam. Look at how Deadbirdzz got called a fudder and now he has red trust on his account despite being right. Granted, DeadBirdzz is slightly crazy and rude but all the same..... And that fucking PLacebo needs to be tracked as well. Am sure somebody somewhere lost enough money in his scams and is highly motivated to have some quality time with him. WHen the BTC value goes through the fucking roof, believe me, a lot of people who lost money in scams will start getting very very angry. Yup, I absolutely agree, well I have placebo on ignore for quite some time, as he's the major king of shilling for "his" ICO's and he's also a master chief in badmouthing all POW coins, he does that badmouthing on a regular basis before he starts an ICO. I saw some posts from placebo the last days in a lot of threads but due to the fact I'm ignoring him, I didn't actually see/read what he wrote, usually he's calling me Mr. POW Scammer - ZEC, ZCL, ZDASH etc. are all invented by me and I made tons of money with it would be his opinion or at at least the story he'd be trying to sell He has a looooong history in this forum, just type "placebo bitcointalk" on google and you'll also find his real name, his address and also a picture from him. He could be very well at least connected to those ICO's somehow, but from what I know he's only a poor sucker, hey but that shouldn't allow him to do anything of this of course. Yeah bitcointalk is like wild west - moderation is very low, trojans/viruses aren't removed as so aren't obvious scams.. It's up to the community to get those scams revealed but unfortunately most of the users happily trust the scammers but not the legendary's :-( Well... After a few days these threads will be somewhere at page 10-15 and those scammers will just start a new ICO. Rinse and Repeat, thats how it is for the last 3-4 years.
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November 30, 2016, 11:36:14 PM |
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Yup, thats him, read up on his threads, you'll find his name and pic linked on many pages. However, it's not him alone, as said before, he's not the brightest person, he won't be fully responsible for all that stuff.
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BitPotus
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November 30, 2016, 11:39:34 PM |
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Yup, thats him, read up on his threads, you'll find his name and pic linked on many pages. However, it's not him alone, as said before, he's not the brightest person, he won't be fully responsible for all that stuff. I actually feel a bit sorry for him. He looks like he was badly bullied when he was a kid. That hair.....
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November 30, 2016, 11:42:15 PM |
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Guys just wanna say thanks for saving me 2 BTC.
Glad there are people like Ocminer and the other which still point on this scams.
Thanks!
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ocminer (OP)
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November 30, 2016, 11:42:34 PM |
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Yup, thats him, read up on his threads, you'll find his name and pic linked on many pages. However, it's not him alone, as said before, he's not the brightest person, he won't be fully responsible for all that stuff. I actually feel a bit sorry for him. He looks like he was badly bullied when he was a kid. That hair..... I feel for him too. He's probably one of those folks having a big mouth via the Internet but he runs away when he stands in front of you Guys just wanna say thanks for saving me 2 BTC.
Glad there are people like Ocminer and the other which still point on this scams.
Thanks!
Pleasure !
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