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Ah okay, so it wasn't just me then. Good that Alex knows about it. Should be a really simple fix, maybe it's just the way the pdf is loading, I guess html text would be fine. I know it's just a tos but if newcomers are like me, they'd probably want to have a quick skim over terms before depositing anything.
Sports betting is awesome indeed. In time for European Champions League too!
Yeah, although I don't have an exact date on when sports will be added on the site. The sooner the better though as it's much anticipated for. I just tried that link again, and it worked fine for me again it seems this is a peculiar issue though, I'm sure it'll be fixed asap by Alex and his team. It seems it is browser related. It dont open to me when I try to open it with Chrome and Opera, but it opens fine when I open it with Firefox.
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August 20, 2018, 07:29:40 PM |
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If Bitdice intends to be a serious competitor competitor vs the likes of Nitrogen or Bitcoin Rush, it have to offer lines that should be as good or better imho. And it should also offer poker as most sports gambling enthusiasts are in it for the skill part of the 'gambling game'. Poker is a good complement for any gambling site anyway...
Adding a new genre of gambling games in their site is not to be rush with especially when they are still on the stage of implementing the sports bets on their website which still has no particular date on, just imagine adding new games without really any demand for it, the additions would be worthless. As soon as sports bets are online they must focused more on adding promotions in order to get some share in the market from NitrogenSports and Bitcoin Rush also by doing so they will make themselves known that they are competing with the two sites now. Maybe they need to grow their players/members on the new games before they could start adding more games such as poker. To be fair, they don't have much players, usually I see very low traffic here but situation here is like quality over quantity, plays bet huge amount of bitcoin, that's hard to see on other websites so regularly. Between sports bet and poker, to my mind for website sports bet will be more profitable because once FJ had poker with great design but there was a lack of customers while demand on sports betting is high. They need to get more popular and promoting of newly added sports betting will play a huge role in overall.
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August 21, 2018, 04:47:47 AM |
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It seems it is browser related. It dont open to me when I try to open it with Chrome and Opera, but it opens fine when I open it with Firefox.
Yeah, it is just a Content Security Policy issue that Chrome enforces.
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August 21, 2018, 07:53:39 AM |
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If Bitdice intends to be a serious competitor competitor vs the likes of Nitrogen or Bitcoin Rush, it have to offer lines that should be as good or better imho. And it should also offer poker as most sports gambling enthusiasts are in it for the skill part of the 'gambling game'. Poker is a good complement for any gambling site anyway...
Adding a new genre of gambling games in their site is not to be rush with especially when they are still on the stage of implementing the sports bets on their website which still has no particular date on, just imagine adding new games without really any demand for it, the additions would be worthless. As soon as sports bets are online they must focused more on adding promotions in order to get some share in the market from NitrogenSports and Bitcoin Rush also by doing so they will make themselves known that they are competing with the two sites now. Maybe they need to grow their players/members on the new games before they could start adding more games such as poker. To be fair, they don't have much players, usually I see very low traffic here but situation here is like quality over quantity, plays bet huge amount of bitcoin, that's hard to see on other websites so regularly. Between sports bet and poker, to my mind for website sports bet will be more profitable because once FJ had poker with great design but there was a lack of customers while demand on sports betting is high. They need to get more popular and promoting of newly added sports betting will play a huge role in overall. I haven't seen any major out cry for poker to be added on the site, and honestly it's fine if you observe on the site there're many quality games which are often updated, that's more important to me and other users. Indeed Bitdice has made sure they receive quality traffic over quantity, if you see the previous huge bets that were and are yet often being placed, you know this site is attracting big whales. Also as you mentioned about the need for Bitdice to get more popularity, Bitdice ranks 12,452 and 1,28,419 in Netherland and India respectively which pretty much says about their popularity status. Also as it can be seen by reading everyone's comment, everyone's already excited for the addition of sports betting, which shows people are ready to move on from popular betting sites.
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August 21, 2018, 12:54:38 PM |
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If Bitdice intends to be a serious competitor competitor vs the likes of Nitrogen or Bitcoin Rush, it have to offer lines that should be as good or better imho. And it should also offer poker as most sports gambling enthusiasts are in it for the skill part of the 'gambling game'. Poker is a good complement for any gambling site anyway...
Sports betting would be much more better than poker IMO, I do not see a good interest from the bitcoin gambling community for poker game. It is proven for years already that there is only few poker sites that can survive till now. On other hands, there were too many failed bitcoin poker sites although they had good offers. Adding more games which are against the house would be much more profitable as well and easy to manage rather than adding pvp poker game. I don't think you got what I said... There are many sports betting enthusiasts that cross over to play poker as well, and there are poker players who tend to do some sports betting. So if you offer sports betting, it's a good idea to offer poker. Just saying...
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August 21, 2018, 04:27:56 PM |
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To be fair, they don't have much players, usually I see very low traffic here but situation here is like quality over quantity, plays bet huge amount of bitcoin, that's hard to see on other websites so regularly. Between sports bet and poker, to my mind for website sports bet will be more profitable because once FJ had poker with great design but there was a lack of customers while demand on sports betting is high. They need to get more popular and promoting of newly added sports betting will play a huge role in overall.
Exactly if they added more games without new players or even a demand for new games they would be creating themselves an internal competition between their games. There won't be an influx of more money the old players will just divide up what they currently spending on the other games the gambling site have added. It would simply mean two things no players on the new game or if they do have players it is their old members trying it out and they just simply divided what they are currently betting in the site.
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August 21, 2018, 04:32:39 PM |
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If Bitdice intends to be a serious competitor competitor vs the likes of Nitrogen or Bitcoin Rush, it have to offer lines that should be as good or better imho. And it should also offer poker as most sports gambling enthusiasts are in it for the skill part of the 'gambling game'. Poker is a good complement for any gambling site anyway...
Sports betting would be much more better than poker IMO, I do not see a good interest from the bitcoin gambling community for poker game. It is proven for years already that there is only few poker sites that can survive till now. On other hands, there were too many failed bitcoin poker sites although they had good offers. Adding more games which are against the house would be much more profitable as well and easy to manage rather than adding pvp poker game. Actually it may be a different perspective for everyone which is a better game, poker or sporbetting or even dice game, I am sure you will have this in thought but as you said, poker games tend to be successful if only they are giving a good table, like past few months ago when bitcoin price is pretty low. But after current time, poker already dies, no one really interest in this long game, because it really takes time just to eaen some amount
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August 22, 2018, 08:09:28 AM |
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It seems it is browser related. It dont open to me when I try to open it with Chrome and Opera, but it opens fine when I open it with Firefox.
Yeah, it is just a Content Security Policy issue that Chrome enforces. I opened with google chrome and it seems to be working perfectly as of now today. Getting into this discussion about poker and sports bet addition, I'll wait silently with any update from Alex. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 24, 2018, 05:15:14 AM |
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ToS issue not fixed from my side, and yes I use Google Chrome. I only have 1 other browser and there is something wrong with it so I can't find out if it's a browser issue. I'm on office (mine but belongs to office) so can't install anything else.
Poker, sportsbook, whatever is added is for sure good for the site IF it is a good offering. I would play both. Poker is difficult to get right though, but I don't see it as competing interest for other games. I could bet sports, autobet dice a few rounds while waiting for poker rounds. Poker would keep you active on site actually.
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August 25, 2018, 10:13:14 AM |
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ToS issue not fixed from my side, and yes I use Google Chrome. I only have 1 other browser and there is something wrong with it so I can't find out if it's a browser issue. I'm on office (mine but belongs to office) so can't install anything else.
Poker, sportsbook, whatever is added is for sure good for the site IF it is a good offering. I would play both. Poker is difficult to get right though, but I don't see it as competing interest for other games. I could bet sports, autobet dice a few rounds while waiting for poker rounds. Poker would keep you active on site actually.
Poker is probably something not worth it unless we've already got a big playerbase.
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August 26, 2018, 03:47:47 PM |
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ToS issue not fixed from my side, and yes I use Google Chrome. I only have 1 other browser and there is something wrong with it so I can't find out if it's a browser issue. I'm on office (mine but belongs to office) so can't install anything else.
Poker, sportsbook, whatever is added is for sure good for the site IF it is a good offering. I would play both. Poker is difficult to get right though, but I don't see it as competing interest for other games. I could bet sports, autobet dice a few rounds while waiting for poker rounds. Poker would keep you active on site actually.
Poker is probably something not worth it unless we've already got a big playerbase. I agree, also you will be competing against the old and established poker sites even if you have a big playerbase,there is no guarantee they would play poker at Bitdice or play poker at all sportsbook is a much better choice- a gambler can put an occasional bet from time to time and it doesn't require that much of a maintenance, no need to fight cheaters that much (compared to online poker) etc.
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August 27, 2018, 04:57:53 PM |
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ToS issue not fixed from my side, and yes I use Google Chrome. I only have 1 other browser and there is something wrong with it so I can't find out if it's a browser issue. I'm on office (mine but belongs to office) so can't install anything else.
Poker, sportsbook, whatever is added is for sure good for the site IF it is a good offering. I would play both. Poker is difficult to get right though, but I don't see it as competing interest for other games. I could bet sports, autobet dice a few rounds while waiting for poker rounds. Poker would keep you active on site actually.
Poker is probably something not worth it unless we've already got a big playerbase. I agree, also you will be competing against the old and established poker sites even if you have a big playerbase,there is no guarantee they would play poker at Bitdice or play poker at all sportsbook is a much better choice- a gambler can put an occasional bet from time to time and it doesn't require that much of a maintenance, no need to fight cheaters that much (compared to online poker) etc. This is a smart and long term planning approach, and like I said I have barely seen poker requests in this thread or on the site. As Boxxob has mentioned the player base is not big enough for the site to add poker, and it takes lot of time and money to get poker in the site, and if the returns are not good or negligible then I feel this is a good decision. There's no merit in the argument that poker will keep site users active, as Bitdice is not known for poker, and it would lead to unnecessary comparison with other poker sites. I think we all should focus now on the upcoming sports bet, as we have a official confirmation of it coming soon.
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August 28, 2018, 08:43:58 PM |
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ToS issue not fixed from my side, and yes I use Google Chrome. I only have 1 other browser and there is something wrong with it so I can't find out if it's a browser issue. I'm on office (mine but belongs to office) so can't install anything else.
Poker, sportsbook, whatever is added is for sure good for the site IF it is a good offering. I would play both. Poker is difficult to get right though, but I don't see it as competing interest for other games. I could bet sports, autobet dice a few rounds while waiting for poker rounds. Poker would keep you active on site actually.
Poker is probably something not worth it unless we've already got a big playerbase. I agree, also you will be competing against the old and established poker sites even if you have a big playerbase,there is no guarantee they would play poker at Bitdice or play poker at all sportsbook is a much better choice- a gambler can put an occasional bet from time to time and it doesn't require that much of a maintenance, no need to fight cheaters that much (compared to online poker) etc. This is a smart and long term planning approach, and like I said I have barely seen poker requests in this thread or on the site. As Boxxob has mentioned the player base is not big enough for the site to add poker, and it takes lot of time and money to get poker in the site, and if the returns are not good or negligible then I feel this is a good decision. There's no merit in the argument that poker will keep site users active, as Bitdice is not known for poker, and it would lead to unnecessary comparison with other poker sites. I think we all should focus now on the upcoming sports bet, as we have a official confirmation of it coming soon. I'll bring the news over here once I have everything confirmed.
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This is a smart and long term planning approach, and like I said I have barely seen poker requests in this thread or on the site. As Boxxob has mentioned the player base is not big enough for the site to add poker, and it takes lot of time and money to get poker in the site, and if the returns are not good or negligible then I feel this is a good decision. There's no merit in the argument that poker will keep site users active, as Bitdice is not known for poker, and it would lead to unnecessary comparison with other poker sites.
I think we all should focus now on the upcoming sports bet, as we have a official confirmation of it coming soon.
I'll bring the news over here once I have everything confirmed. Ah okay so fair enough, now that I've read all the comments against poker. I don't really agree about competition, I think it's good and competition is better for everyone BUT I do agree most of all with the part about the difficulty to monitor all the cheaters and unfair play on poker. That will be so difficult it's not worth it, which is impossible to game with sportsbooks. So good decision in the end.
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September 04, 2018, 08:24:46 AM |
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I'll bring the news over here once I have everything confirmed. Ah okay so fair enough, now that I've read all the comments against poker. I don't really agree about competition, I think it's good and competition is better for everyone BUT I do agree most of all with the part about the difficulty to monitor all the cheaters and unfair play on poker. That will be so difficult it's not worth it, which is impossible to game with sportsbooks. So good decision in the end. Hey competition is always good, but competing for poker without have a niche audience of poker is not a wise idea, like they say don't bring a knife in a gun war. I'm looking forward when the new announcements will come, also are new games to going to be added along with sports bet?. I'm really curious to see the new look, and those graphics which come along with the upgrade.
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September 04, 2018, 12:13:14 PM |
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I'll bring the news over here once I have everything confirmed. Ah okay so fair enough, now that I've read all the comments against poker. I don't really agree about competition, I think it's good and competition is better for everyone BUT I do agree most of all with the part about the difficulty to monitor all the cheaters and unfair play on poker. That will be so difficult it's not worth it, which is impossible to game with sportsbooks. So good decision in the end. Hey competition is always good, but competing for poker without have a niche audience of poker is not a wise idea, like they say don't bring a knife in a gun war. I'm looking forward when the new announcements will come, also are new games to going to be added along with sports bet?. I'm really curious to see the new look, and those graphics which come along with the upgrade. Even i am pretty much excited to see some new changes to the platform. Also i hope that they soon add some more new games so that it could actually go more profitable with a hundreds of new users joining their platform. I am a way new to their platform but i find their site working great with great graphics which did attracted ne towards them. It would be my pleasure to gamble on bitdice also the profits can be comparatively much more stable and high. I have been using several gambling sites and i find this one most stable and trustworthy. Also coming onto the competition, i guess it is better to keep the community active and participated into their active rounds. Competitions always tends to give more profits as the users give their best to win the competition and also the platform has some kind of benefits in it. Looking forward for more better competitions to participate into. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 04, 2018, 01:46:05 PM |
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ToS issue not fixed from my side, and yes I use Google Chrome. I only have 1 other browser and there is something wrong with it so I can't find out if it's a browser issue. I'm on office (mine but belongs to office) so can't install anything else.
Poker, sportsbook, whatever is added is for sure good for the site IF it is a good offering. I would play both. Poker is difficult to get right though, but I don't see it as competing interest for other games. I could bet sports, autobet dice a few rounds while waiting for poker rounds. Poker would keep you active on site actually.
Poker is probably something not worth it unless we've already got a big playerbase. I hate to say it, but so true. The small profits you earn in rake will def won't be worth it if you consider all the labor needed for anti collusion, angling, bots and other sorts of cheating in the game online. But if you do decide to get a poker site up, why not organize it with other BTC gambling sites and start a 'poker network' sharing each other's player pools...?
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September 05, 2018, 04:43:49 AM |
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I'll bring the news over here once I have everything confirmed. Ah okay so fair enough, now that I've read all the comments against poker. I don't really agree about competition, I think it's good and competition is better for everyone BUT I do agree most of all with the part about the difficulty to monitor all the cheaters and unfair play on poker. That will be so difficult it's not worth it, which is impossible to game with sportsbooks. So good decision in the end. Hey competition is always good, but competing for poker without have a niche audience of poker is not a wise idea, like they say don't bring a knife in a gun war. I'm looking forward when the new announcements will come, also are new games to going to be added along with sports bet?. I'm really curious to see the new look, and those graphics which come along with the upgrade. Competition has been good for us, to the players/users/consumers but it can be the most difficult part to the provider or casino itself. But there's just a lot of things to consider to commit such actions. I'm also looking forward to the said announcement and confirmation.
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September 05, 2018, 07:06:59 PM |
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ToS issue not fixed from my side, and yes I use Google Chrome. I only have 1 other browser and there is something wrong with it so I can't find out if it's a browser issue. I'm on office (mine but belongs to office) so can't install anything else.
Poker, sportsbook, whatever is added is for sure good for the site IF it is a good offering. I would play both. Poker is difficult to get right though, but I don't see it as competing interest for other games. I could bet sports, autobet dice a few rounds while waiting for poker rounds. Poker would keep you active on site actually.
Poker is probably something not worth it unless we've already got a big playerbase. I hate to say it, but so true. The small profits you earn in rake will def won't be worth it if you consider all the labor needed for anti collusion, angling, bots and other sorts of cheating in the game online. But if you do decide to get a poker site up, why not organize it with other BTC gambling sites and start a 'poker network' sharing each other's player pools...? That's one option to organize some sort of a network but that's probably pretty far down the line.
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slaman29
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September 07, 2018, 06:21:15 AM |
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So we're more or less agreed here I guess which is no new games unless you know you have a userbase. I think that's fair enough.
Keeping the existing userbase (dice) will always be the top priority and that's good for us who keep coming back for the quality of dice. Encouraging them to play more often means it has to keep having regular promotions or fresh updates, and we already have that.
Forum contests with dice I've seen is good too. It promotes interaction, while at the same time providing regular "awareness" in forums to hopefully catch the attention of new players.
Can't wait to see the sports updates though;)
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