[CLOSED] YOLOdice.com Signature Campaign

[ShowOff]

As a Senior member can I join this campaign or its closed?

Let me answer the question. You will be given the opportunity when the manager decides to look for new participants or the campaign needs more participants and when you see an announcement about a new application then immediately register and your application will be considered among many other applications. But for now the campaign status is CFNP and you have to understand that. I hope.

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[Reid]

Payments could always wait.

Just please stay safe for now.
I think I have been out the streets just once in 2 weeks to buy some groceries and its really scary.
Hope you all are in good health too.

[Mike Mayor]

You are right it's tough for all of us. Let's hope something good comes out very soon.

As a Senior member can I join this campaign or its closed?

You are a Sr member and you don't even know how to read their title?

Hi
I'm fully prepared. 

BitcoinTalk username: epifan
YOLOdice user id: 294287
Forum rank: Member
Current post count: 71

There are three things you should know.
First: Do not touch old topics
Second: Do not apply when you do not have the necessary rank
Third: read the title before applying to any signature campaign
[CFNP]  = Close for new member

Use your brain to understand what's going on, pls

He is just trying to get a job. Besides Yolodice are rude. I was in the campaign for over a year and I have good post quality. I always have something intelligent to say and don't write silly nonsense.
They don't actually care what you post. I was kicked from the campaign for the negative trust that was given to be by an abusive admin. It was removed by theomos himself but Yolodice still didn't care. I contacted each of the mangers and explained myself. They did not even have the basic decency to reply and I explained myself in the thread as well. I appreciate being paid and spend the money well and I give back to the person I am being paid by posting well and representing them well. I wonder how grateful some of these others are? You should give positions to people who actually appreciate it. Anyway the funny thing is the guy in charge was moooonu who has negative trust themselves. The other thing is they so nice to you and thank you for working with them but then when you really need to talk to them you just get ignored. I would still be in the campaign had it not been for that silly nonsense. It annoyed me that people think its ok to treat others this way.

The problem with this forum is being hired has little to do with your actual skill. There many people who don't appreciate the coins they earn and don't deserve it. Loyalty means nothing to these people. They will drop you like you nothing and ignore you when you have a problem. I can't imagine how they handle problems in their casino since I stopped playing there. I lost my work because of an abusive idiot admin that has no idea the damage he caused and doesn't care. The same admins that are paid to remove our posts. Yolodice is not reasonable and there is no excuse to blatantly ignore me. It annoys me every single day when I think I could still be in this campaign. But hey as long as you make long posts talking about anything you apparently a good poster.

[suzanne5223]

You are right it's tough for all of us. Let's hope something good comes out very soon.

As a Senior member can I join this campaign or its closed?

You are a Sr member and you don't even know how to read their title?

Hi
I'm fully prepared. 

BitcoinTalk username: epifan
YOLOdice user id: 294287
Forum rank: Member
Current post count: 71

There are three things you should know.
First: Do not touch old topics
Second: Do not apply when you do not have the necessary rank
Third: read the title before applying to any signature campaign
[CFNP]  = Close for new member

Use your brain to understand what's going on, pls

He is just trying to get a job. Besides Yolodice are rude. I was in the campaign for over a year and I have good post quality. I always have something intelligent to say and don't write silly nonsense.
They don't actually care what you post. I was kicked from the campaign for the negative trust that was given to be by an abusive admin. It was removed by theomos himself but Yolodice still didn't care. I contacted each of the mangers and explained myself. They did not even have the basic decency to reply and I explained myself in the thread as well. I appreciate being paid and spend the money well and I give back to the person I am being paid by posting well and representing them well. I wonder how grateful some of these others are? You should give positions to people who actually appreciate it. Anyway the funny thing is the guy in charge was moooonu who has negative trust themselves. The other thing is they so nice to you and thank you for working with them but then when you really need to talk to them you just get ignored. I would still be in the campaign had it not been for that silly nonsense. It annoyed me that people think its ok to treat others this way.

The problem with this forum is being hired has little to do with your actual skill. There many people who don't appreciate the coins they earn and don't deserve it. Loyalty means nothing to these people. They will drop you like you nothing and ignore you when you have a problem. I can't imagine how they handle problems in their casino since I stopped playing there. I lost my work because of an abusive idiot admin that has no idea the damage he caused and doesn't care. The same admins that are paid to remove our posts. Yolodice is not reasonable and there is no excuse to blatantly ignore me. It annoys me every single day when I think I could still be in this campaign. But hey as long as you make long posts talking about anything you apparently a good poster.

Sorry for what happen to you mate but you of all people should know better that the owner and the manager of this campaign are somehow busy which is also the reason why they update this thread late sometime, this was what some people misunderstand just like you just did now and think both owner and manager are rude which they are not from my own view. However, your message won't make them change their decision or give you back your previous position for it will only make things worse and if you're a good poster as you declare it will be easy for you to be accepted in one of the best/long-existing campaigns.

[mOgliE]

He is just trying to get a job. Besides Yolodice are rude. I was in the campaign for over a year and I have good post quality. I always have something intelligent to say and don't write silly nonsense.
They don't actually care what you post. I was kicked from the campaign for the negative trust that was given to be by an abusive admin. It was removed by theomos himself but Yolodice still didn't care. I contacted each of the mangers and explained myself. They did not even have the basic decency to reply and I explained myself in the thread as well. I appreciate being paid and spend the money well and I give back to the person I am being paid by posting well and representing them well. I wonder how grateful some of these others are? You should give positions to people who actually appreciate it. Anyway the funny thing is the guy in charge was moooonu who has negative trust themselves. The other thing is they so nice to you and thank you for working with them but then when you really need to talk to them you just get ignored. I would still be in the campaign had it not been for that silly nonsense. It annoyed me that people think its ok to treat others this way.

The problem with this forum is being hired has little to do with your actual skill. There many people who don't appreciate the coins they earn and don't deserve it. Loyalty means nothing to these people. They will drop you like you nothing and ignore you when you have a problem. I can't imagine how they handle problems in their casino since I stopped playing there. I lost my work because of an abusive idiot admin that has no idea the damage he caused and doesn't care. The same admins that are paid to remove our posts. Yolodice is not reasonable and there is no excuse to blatantly ignore me. It annoys me every single day when I think I could still be in this campaign. But hey as long as you make long posts talking about anything you apparently a good poster.

Hello Mike,

Sorry to read what happened to you. I've checked my PM again and I have 0 message from you. I guess when you mean you wrote to "both managers" you wrote to the previous manager moooonu and Ethan. Ethan is the owner of Yolodice and he has 0 time to handle those questions. That's why he has hired campaign managers.

I'm sorry moooonu didn't answer you but he was red trusted for his behaviour and the owner fired him for his bad management of the campaign.

In my case I try to always answer to any complain by PM or on this thread so I find your accusation a bit unfair.

But anyway, the campaign is NOT a salary job with a contract. You are paid to have your normal activity while wearing yolodice advertisement. This sponsorship relationship can be stopped at ANY moment without having to give a reason. I answer only to the owner of the campaign who has all right to stop the campaign at any moment or get me out of this management, also without giving a reason. The campaign has been hold for a long time and I would say that all members are pretty happy about how it's managed. I don't fire people if they have a short inactivity, I don't ask for a minimal number of post...

Anyone unhappy about the way I manage this campaign can PM me and I'll try to answer the best way I can. If moooonu fired you previously I can't do anything about it so there is no reason to argue here. I'm not going to fire a current member to get you in, I hope you can understand that.

Cheers everyone, take care of you and your loved ones in this trouble times! 

[bitmover]

Hello ethan_nx, m0glie and my fellow companions in the signature campaign,

It has been almost 1 year and a half since I joined this campaign in 2018. Now it is time for me to leave and move to another campaign. I am so grateful for the time I participated.

It was an honor participating in this campaign and representing such a respectful brand. While in the campaign I became a Yolodice investor and player (I lost some of my weeks payment, I am not a good gambler lol).

This campaign is here for so long time... Yolodice, Paractor and m0glie never missed or delayed a payment during my stay.
We are a so small group of participants that was an honor to be part.

I wish all the best for yolodice company, managers (formers and current) and participants.

In the future it would be great to work if you again.

Today is the end of a week's cycle in this campaign and the beginning of a new one in my current campaign. Therefore, I am setting up my new signature now, after this post.

Thank you again.

[lucifer_8]

Hello ethan_nx and mOgliE,
I think you guys have been doing a great job by running a long campaign. But I believe that you are just encouraging members to make unworthy posts and paying them. I believe for a user who is making 20 posts a week earning 5 merits from 300 posts is not a difficult and that earning atleast 5 merits in the last 120 days is a reasonable measure to identify a user as not being a shitposter. Do check your participants -
hahay - 0 earned merits in 120 days. He hasn't earned a single merit since the art contest. Even with the art contest which earned him 19 merits, he had earned only 33 merits in the last 2 years.
onrise - 0 earned merits in 120 days. Haven't earned a single merit since September 2019. He had earned only 32 merits in in the last 2 years.
FlightyPouch - 1 earned merits in 120 days. Earned a total of 38 merits in the last 2 years.
maydna - 3 earned merits in 120 days. Earned a total of 9 merits in the last 2 years.
Janation - 4 earned merits in 120 days. Earned a total of 16 merits in the last 2 years.
I think you guys should seriously look into the participants and promote your site wisely. But this is just my thoughts. You can run the campaign however you like because its your money.

Cheers,
Luci

[hd49728]

But I believe that you are just encouraging members to make unworthy posts and paying them.

Running a campaign for too long require benefits back from the funds spent to run it. If the team did not see any good returns from the campaign, they would have ended it.

I believe for a user who is making 20 posts a week earning 5 merits from 300 posts is not a difficult and that earning atleast 5 merits in the last 120 days is a reasonable measure to identify a user as not being a shitposter.

I agree with you but there are different between shitposts and goodposts but there are a range in between: a post that is not good enough to earn merits but is not too bad to call as a shitpost.

I think you guys should seriously look into the participants and promote your site wisely. But this is just my thoughts. You can run the campaign however you like because its your money.

You see above there is complaints from ex-participant because of was kicked out. If what you supposed will be taken, there will be more complaints. On the other hand, participants of long campaigns are likely grandfather, you can see it in many long lasting campaign. Bitsler (ended months ago), Crypto-games, ie. If they don't break rules of the campaign, and the forum, they will keep their spots.

It is the same when a new spot opens up and many applicants apply for it. It is never the case that an applicant with highest number of earned merits will be chosen. The manager and the company have their criteria and needs to choose the best applicant for their needs. We likely don't know what are their criteria.

If they want to have new participants, they can simply end the campaign for a few weeks, then open a new campaign. No one can complain about it. It is their company and campaign. Let it be.

[ShowOff]

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I think you guys should seriously look into the participants and promote your site wisely. But this is just my thoughts. You can run the campaign however you like because its your money.

You have done quite good research because you have spent a little time checking the quality of participants from this campaign. This campaign is one of the long-term campaigns and the Campaign Manager should be will evaluate the performance of each participant who has been received at the end of each week period such as the number of posts, quality of posts and posts that are eligible to be paid.

This campaign has rules that must be obeyed by every participant who has been accepted and this is the rule.

Detailed rules

1. Max paid posts per week: 40.
2. Posting in our ANN thread is NOT required, but you still can.
3. Posts that qualify:
  - must be in proper English,
  - min char count is 75,
  - must be constructive (as determined by the campaign manager),
  - subsequent posts (literally one after another) in the same thread are not counted,
  - posts in the following sections: Games & rounds, Off-topic, Politics & society, Investor-based games do not count,
  - "Beating a dead horse", "Giving unsolicited opinion that helps no one", "Guessing needlessly", "Posting on spam threads", "Necroposting", "Posting on a necroposted thread" (as defined by Relnarien) are not considered counted posts.
4. Local board, altcoin board and Other > Meta posts count as half.
5. Posts in Gambling are paid +10%. This bonus applies to no more than 50% of your posts.
6. You can rank up in the campaign only if a higher-level slot is available, payout increases next cycle.
7. You can keep the signature and participate in YD referral program even if you quit the sig campaign.
8. The following will result in removing your account from the campaign without payment:
  - spamming,
  - enrolling alts,
  - changing the signature for a non-campaign signature during a cycle,
  - using an avatar from another gambling service,
  - getting negative feedback during the campaign,
  - getting your account listed at any of SMAS lists.
9. There is no minimum posts requirement, but inactive members might get replaced by new members.
10. The week cycle ends on Sundays 23:59:99(9) UTC, payments will be issued within 2 days.
11. Posts in this thread do not count.

Understand points 3 & 8. If one campaign participant breaks the rules, report it and I think the manager will act quickly.


Merit is given by someone on a type of post that is constructive, informative and useful for users and forums. But not all constructive posts will get merit because we know that merit are given as a form of appreciation for other peoples posts based on the senders rating.

We cannot sentence that users who dont get merit while participating in the campaign are people who break the rules, but I am sure they can be considered mediocre posters with quality standards for posts that qualify for payment.

Rest assured, managers will consider hiring users who can post quality things. In addition to profitable campaigns, promoters who can post things that are quality will also have a positive impact on the managers who employ them. Participants, managers and companies will benefit from it.

Hello manager, we have open slots this week? bitmover has moved to another campaign.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

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Thanks for your efforts in ensuring that the campaigns are well promoted

However, I just checked the post histories of the mentioned members and they are not bad posters. The reason they could have not amassed lots of merits in that given period of time is because they are regular posters in boards ignored by most merit sources.

Anyone who is a regular poster in boards like Gambling, Gambling discussion, Economics, Bitcoin discussion and Alternate Cryptocurrencies will agree with me that sometimes, however good your post or reply may be, you may not receive any single merit for it but if you post a topic or reply of the same caliber in Meta, Reputation, Help and Beginners board and Most Local Boards, you will receive lots of Merits.

I think the campaign manager and Company owner know better. If the campaign isn't fruitful have already made some changes.

[mOgliE]

Hello ethan_nx and mOgliE,
I think you guys have been doing a great job by running a long campaign. But I believe that you are just encouraging members to make unworthy posts and paying them. I believe for a user who is making 20 posts a week earning 5 merits from 300 posts is not a difficult and that earning atleast 5 merits in the last 120 days is a reasonable measure to identify a user as not being a shitposter. Do check your participants -
hahay - 0 earned merits in 120 days. He hasn't earned a single merit since the art contest. Even with the art contest which earned him 19 merits, he had earned only 33 merits in the last 2 years.
onrise - 0 earned merits in 120 days. Haven't earned a single merit since September 2019. He had earned only 32 merits in in the last 2 years.
FlightyPouch - 1 earned merits in 120 days. Earned a total of 38 merits in the last 2 years.
maydna - 3 earned merits in 120 days. Earned a total of 9 merits in the last 2 years.
Janation - 4 earned merits in 120 days. Earned a total of 16 merits in the last 2 years.
I think you guys should seriously look into the participants and promote your site wisely. But this is just my thoughts. You can run the campaign however you like because its your money.

Cheers,
Luci

Hello Lucifer_8,

First thank you for this message. This is a very interesting point you're making.

The YoloDice campaign is older than the merit system, so we haven't taken it into account in the first rules.

But I'm going to discuss it with Ethan because it is an interesting idea. Even though I'm not sure it's the best possibility. I control that noone is shitposting, but let's face it, the goal of such campaign is to post, a lot, and in gambling section mainly. Such sections have nearly 0 merit distributed and anyway it's not the point. The important part for the campaign owner is to have advertisement for the site.

I'll analyse the efficiency of the advertisement compared to the merit owned to see if there is a corelation.

But thanks again for voicing out this idea

[AB de Royse777]

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Honestly speaking that's a good valid point you made however nothing against the participants. Some users above me already spoken out and explained some reasons. However, I can share you my personal experience.

I am a regular poster in gambling section but I have to say that I have some strong connections with some of other users in the gambling section too where we genuinely hang out with each other. We regularly host events to keep the community engaged.

To earn merit one really needs:
1. Fairly recognition (you will need to have a fair known face).
2. Constant engagement with the sports you love
3. and lastly of course your contents.

There are a lot of users in the gambling section who are really not engaging in conversations but just making a post then leaves and then again come back and make another post. This way you can not earn single merit but that does not mean that you are making shit post too.

-------- I control that noone is shitposting, but let's face it, the goal of such campaign is to post, a lot, and in gambling section mainly. Such sections have nearly 0 merit distributed and anyway it's not the point. The important part for the campaign owner is to have advertisement for the site.  ----------

These users in the campaign currently you have, I think they are doing okayish job. One can not complain much against them.

[Reid]

I hope that is his main account.
With all that merit earned in just a day could have been useful to rank up.  

But I doubt that, looking at the post history.

[lucifer_8]

To all who have replied to my post and especially mOgliE, thanks for hearing me out.

First of all, I dont have anything against the users mentioned by me above and I never tried to say they are shitposters or broke any rules. I used unworthy because I couldn't find the right word to use, you can say mediocre posters or say users who are posting redundant information (Not a native English speaker)  

@hd49728 I disagree with your points that it would raise complaints. There is nothing to complain if you are removed from the campaign. It just means that you are not capable enough to hold the position you have been offered.

@Bitcoin_Arena The main reason is regular poster in boards like Gambling, Gambling discussion, Economics, Bitcoin discussion and Alternate Cryptocurrencies dont get enough merits is that they generally share redundant/repetitive information without any value addition to the original information. Even in these boards I can give names of few members who earn merits like (names might be wrong or not full) efialitis, tykwi.. in gambling boards, cryptoadict.., tk08? in Alts board etc.

@Reid Not an alt of anyone or bothered to rank up. But yeah it would be nice to wear an avatar and be able to post images.

[Harkorede]

Honestly speaking that's a good valid point you made however nothing against the participants. Some users above me already spoken out and explained some reasons. However, I can share you my personal experience.

I am a regular poster in gambling section but I have to say that I have some strong connections with some of other users in the gambling section too where we genuinely hang out with each other. We regularly host events to keep the community engaged.

To earn merit one really needs:
1. Fairly recognition (you will need to have a fair known face).
2. Constant engagement with the sports you love
3. and lastly of course your contents.

You've probably said it all, Gambling is board probably the most dynamic board in the forum, most users post there not because they are interested in it, but just for certain requirements, and just as you've pointed out, It requires familiarity and showing genuine interest in the conversation. Most people won't even participate in a free competition, and that shows how much interests they have in gambling generally.

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I doubt it's coincidental, but it could be purely accidental, again 

[20kevin20]

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Never has it crossed in my mind that some campaign participants have not been earning Merits in months or even years. Well done on the research.


Will leave my personal opinion here. If the managers of this campaign want hear a non-biased opinion, here it is.

The idea is that some users should be taken out of the campaign without a specific rule in the OP if they have not met a few unofficial requirements such as earning at least a minimum of Merits per month (or 120 days). Speaking from what I have personally seen, if such rule is officially added to the campaign's OP, the campaign participants will start creating useless threads in a desperate try to gain Merits.

Some unofficial rules should exist out there imo, because officializing them means making them aware there is a possibility of being kicked out of the campaign if they don't obey the rules. Applying this "minimum earned merits" as a condition for the existing participants would also be a mistake as they'd be basically forced to earn merits, so the same consequence would take place.


I do not have anything to gain from this as I have just joined a campaign a few days ago and I am willing to stay with Hhampuz for now - Seems kinda disrespectful IMO to leave a campaign as soon as you're accepted, unless there is an underlying problem behind the leave.

[kawetsriyanto]

~ snp ~

Good decision, manager. Indeed, the project owner's priority is to have best people to promote his project. It makes sense because promoting a project with quality members should be more effective, gaining people's trust, and probably getting more attention by potential new members. In correlation to merit, AFAIK, commonly who got more earned merits may show us how good they are. But never blindly to assess it, looking deeply their post history and their habits are a must.

However, regarding choosing the participants to promote the project is an absolute right of the bounty manager. We never compare one bounty manager to others as each bounty manager may have their own way. So, what ever the decision you made, the participants should accept it without complaints, as long it is fair and doesn't broke forum rules.

That's my own opinion. Hope it can be useful. Thanks 

[Haunebu]

@Bitcoin_Arena The main reason is regular poster in boards like Gambling, Gambling discussion, Economics, Bitcoin discussion and Alternate Cryptocurrencies dont get enough merits is that they generally share redundant/repetitive information without any value addition to the original information.

Firstly, you seem to know a lot about this forum being a newbie. Good stuff. Anyway, the campaign manager has the right to select whoever he/she wants and everyone in this forum is aware of this.

No merit does not automatically imply you are a bad poster. Many merit points also does not imply that you are a good poster.

Also, you clearly have no idea how tough it is to gain merit in certain sections like the gambling section. On the other hand, it is way easier to gain merit in Wall observer, Meta etc.

Post quality > Merit any day though both are important!

[BTCappu]

To earn merit one really needs:
1. Fairly recognition (you will need to have a fair known face).

This sounds really unfair against the purpose of why we have merit system.

3. and lastly of course your contents.

I agree only on here. Merits system has been misused in my eyes.

I believe for a user who is making 20 posts a week earning 5 merits from 300 posts is not a difficult and that earning atleast 5 merits in the last 120 days is a reasonable measure to identify a user as not being a shitposter.

But people are sharing here like merits are being rewarded even for face value. Hence, you cannot measure on merits to identify a shitposter.

[AB de Royse777]

This sounds really unfair against the purpose of why we have merit system.

Put it this way, in the society (in real life) who do you want to like most? The one is always working for the community and recognized by the community. If you do not have good image in your society then no one is going to like or support whatever you are doing as much as they will do for the one who is active in the society. It takes time but once you start doing the good things and can bring yourself to the spotlight then a lot of things get easier.

It's no difference in here. You have to be a community person to be loved and cared by others. Feel free to PM me some of your posts that you think deserve merit or you think undervalued by others. I will try to take care of them.