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January 17, 2017, 03:46:24 PM
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

You are always going to depend on the banking system if you want to convert fiat into BTC, if by "money" you mean fiat, so you are going to deal with all the inconveniences of the banking system, there is no way around it.

The only way to bypass it would be to work and get paid in BTC directly.
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January 17, 2017, 04:02:04 PM
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I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
Actually legal restrictions in many country have limited many payment processors and bank to have this feature.

Bitcoin is anonymous and government will try to just ignore it and even if they have to accept it as new way to do financial transactions they try to regulate trading platform and services that buy/sell bitcoin.

Foreign currency rules and money laundering is big hurdle bitcoin exchange/trading platform have to tackle to allow anyone to purchase bitcoin easily and conveniently.

 
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January 17, 2017, 04:05:24 PM
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Bitcoin is the easiet way to use some money for transactions. I recommend you to convert money to Bitcoin by using legal transactions such as going to stores or other establishment that convert money to bitcoin. I suggest the stores that are well known and trusted to avoid scamming and loosing a lot of money.


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January 17, 2017, 04:08:22 PM
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

you can use XAPO credit card or cryptopay.me credit card to buy bitcoin from them . it's easy to use these wallets to exchange bitcoin from fiat.
You should try it now.
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January 17, 2017, 04:13:54 PM
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Actually people from third world country don't have opportunity to buy bitcoin easily from any of the bitcoin trading platform like coinbase. Coinbase still don't support many developing countries also in localbitcoins usually deals for this countries are really expensive to buy from using local bank transfer.

However in european countries and china anyone can buy bitcoin or sell it quickly for profit or just buy and hold for long term with peace in mind. This have created a sense of "bitcoin is actually only made for developed countries, Tier-1 countries".  Angry

 
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January 17, 2017, 04:17:47 PM
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In my country you have the odd Bitcoin vending machine, but they only allow you to convert limited quantities. The biggest obstacle in

mainstream adoption, would be the involvement of the banks. The governments and the banks seem to be working together to place

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Actually people from third world country don't have opportunity to buy bitcoin easily from any of the bitcoin trading platform like coinbase. Coinbase still don't support many developing countries also in localbitcoins usually deals for this countries are really expensive to buy from using local bank transfer.

However in european countries and china anyone can buy bitcoin or sell it quickly for profit or just buy and hold for long term with peace in mind. This have created a sense of "bitcoin is actually only made for developed countries, Tier-1 countries".  Angry
You can always work online to get bitcoin, if you're unable to buy.
 it's easy for me to buy bitcoins, i use localbitcoins and kraken to buy coins. localbitcoins is the fastest and easiest way to buy bitcoins.
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January 17, 2017, 04:44:26 PM
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Although I don't have much experience with it the most convenient way would seem to be using localbitcoins. You have cash, they have bitcoin, you meet and exchange. Simple. Easiest way if your money is in a bank? Using an online exchange.
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January 17, 2017, 04:55:29 PM
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I think its majorly dependent on the locality of residence and the laws of surrounding such venture in that particular place whether strict or relaxed. Over here we have localbitcoin which is popular all over at the same time we have some exchange site of individuals who can convert buy and sell bitcoin automatically the way the site is configured and its connected to bank accounts and its even stress free. But the issue there is one needs to be more careful on the site to visit as there are a lot of scammers around looking for who to prey on.
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Here in my country I can easily convert my bitcoins to local currency or local currency to bitcoin. We have a wallet particularly only on our country that are affiliated with many remitance center and stores here in our places , thats why it is easy for us to convert here
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Here in my country I can easily convert my bitcoins to local currency or local currency to bitcoin. We have a wallet particularly only on our country that are affiliated with many remitance center and stores here in our places , thats why it is easy for us to convert here
Here in my country central bank has warned against dealing in Bitcoin, saying anybody caught using the virtual currency could be jailed.Though the situation serious here but nothing hampered to activity convert local currency to BTC or BTC to local currency.Exchange are smoothly going on.

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January 17, 2017, 06:10:07 PM
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Here in my country I can easily convert my bitcoins to local currency or local currency to bitcoin. We have a wallet particularly only on our country that are affiliated with many remitance center and stores here in our places , thats why it is easy for us to convert here
Here in my country central bank has warned against dealing in Bitcoin, saying anybody caught using the virtual currency could be jailed.Though the situation serious here but nothing hampered to activity convert local currency to BTC or BTC to local currency.Exchange are smoothly going on.

These threats often happens in various governments and finally users won't be affected much in this regard, because they still continue to use in one or other way. Even in china exchanges has started to run after an issue and several other exchanges were existing in several countries to ease the conversion and support bitcoin growth.
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January 17, 2017, 06:18:08 PM
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there are countless places to buy and sell BTC, have you even tried any of them? 
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January 17, 2017, 06:21:17 PM
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buy gift cards or use local bitcoins
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I use localbitcoins, pretty simple and straight forward

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January 17, 2017, 09:06:43 PM
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You are always going to depend on the banking system if you want to convert fiat into BTC, if by "money" you mean fiat, so you are going to deal with all the inconveniences of the banking system, there is no way around it.

The only way to bypass it would be to work and get paid in BTC directly.

Yeah. I mean "fiat" and fiat->BTC conversion and how it limits the possibilities from the fiat side. So, basically, to get around this problem, I should have people do work for me so that I could pay to them directly in BTC. Giving good jobs to people is not an easy job, just look at how much governments have been successful with it so far lol.

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January 17, 2017, 09:21:04 PM
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You are always going to depend on the banking system if you want to convert fiat into BTC, if by "money" you mean fiat, so you are going to deal with all the inconveniences of the banking system, there is no way around it.

The only way to bypass it would be to work and get paid in BTC directly.

Yeah. I mean "fiat" and fiat->BTC conversion and how it limits the possibilities from the fiat side. So, basically, to get around this problem, I should have people do work for me so that I could pay to them directly in BTC. Giving good jobs to people is not an easy job, just look at how much governments have been successful with it so far lol.

again, everything that everyone has says still applies.  go buy a serve card for cash and use localbitcoins to trade that for BTC, less than thirty minutes
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January 17, 2017, 09:33:34 PM
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The problem is that currently most exchanges have to get information on their customer for money laundering reason or face going to jail, its that simple.  i agree currently it is not that easy to get fiat into BTC but hopefully in the future it will get better, but i cant see it ever being anonymous .
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

If you are a BTC holder then you are the one who will adjust. If your partner is US DOLLAR holder then you are the one who will convert from BTC to US DOLLAR. Above my post is correct, Yes there are restriction in some country because of it's anonymity. So you are the one who will adjust you need to convert your BTC to US DOLLAR. There are some famous website that can exchange BTC to US DOLLAR. I think coinbase is the one, but some didn't like coinbase because of some issues. Or you can exchange it to a currency exchange platform. like btc-e, c-cex, cex, polo and etc then withdraw it to your USD wallet.


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January 17, 2017, 10:16:34 PM
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

I see what you mean, and there is none...

I had to add the Paypal payment possibility simply because of what you're saying. No matter what BTC isn't that easy to buy.
You can buy services and products in BTC only if you're already a user. Otherwise...
So if you can, go for Paypal, it's not as good as BTC but it's still not the usual banking system so...
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January 17, 2017, 10:31:08 PM
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

Well, I can buy and sell bitcoin simply use my phone.
However, the transaction was not in big amount of bitcoin but less than BTC1.
Because my friend has a local exchange, it's very helpful.
There is an exchange platform in my country that allows people to transact where you can pay with a simple sending messages, it depends on your country regulations and bank account services.
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
In our country there's an app called Coin.ph . It provides convertion of peso to btc and btc to pesos then theres more features. We can buy things online , we can pay bills and load our phones. For me that the easiest way to convert money to btc because you can also cash in and convert . Also it is a wallet that let you see the convertion so you are aware if the convetion is ok Smiley
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January 18, 2017, 12:05:47 AM
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Currently, the easiest way to convert money into bitcoins is through Localbitcoins.
You can use Coinbase also but it will take some of your personal Info.

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Currently, the easiest way to convert money into bitcoins is through Localbitcoins.
You can use Coinbase also but it will take some of your personal Info.



It's not what is asked there though...
Local bitcoin is good, sure.
I mean I use it at least once a month whatever the change.
But here OP is asking for a DIRECT transformation. Like something immediate!
And sadly it just doesn't happen...
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January 18, 2017, 12:25:48 AM
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The easiest ways I've found to convert money into Bitcoin mostly comes directly from exchanges to be honest, so anything like BTC-E, Coinbase, whatever it is, as long as it is an exchange I've found it to perform fairly well.

If you have cash, then I would recommend doing something like localbitcoins and converting money that way.

Paypal and CCs are accepted by most exchanges.
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January 18, 2017, 12:33:09 AM
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Currently, the easiest way to convert money into bitcoins is through Localbitcoins.
You can use Coinbase also but it will take some of your personal Info.



I use local bitcoin it works the best and I have never had any problems. There should be even more ways. You can do more private dealings or on some exchanges and things but I just prefer the ease of local bitcoin. I think people with masses amounts of bitcoin would use exchanges.
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

You deposit to exchange, especially Chinese exchanges are easiest to buy bitcoin. Payment processor costs much fees.
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What are some of the largest retailers who accept bitcoins?
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
About your partner he should have a good knowledge about how bitcoin works and the risk involve in holding him or else you will lose his friendship if Bitcoin price suddenly take a big dip..

Check your country for a legit exchangers or a features that you have what you are looking for ,fortunately here in our country we have a company that can do that.

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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
The easiest way is to use your fiat to buy bitcoin in localbitcoins, and buy the bitcoins in a face to face trade, or you can use cash deposit to buy it, another possibility is to use virwox, or you can buy currencies for games and then use that currency to trade for bitcoin.
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January 18, 2017, 03:32:52 AM
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There's an easy way to convert money to btc in my country using my online wallet cash in request option which allows you a payment via recommended outlet by our wallet site, one of the most popular in our place is seven eleven convenience store. Its so easy and convenient once you made the steps for cash in request, just present the barcode to the store teller and you're ready to pay the amount you requested to be cash in to your wallet.

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January 18, 2017, 03:51:57 AM
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
The easiest way is to use your fiat to buy bitcoin in localbitcoins, and buy the bitcoins in a face to face trade, or you can use cash deposit to buy it, another possibility is to use virwox, or you can buy currencies for games and then use that currency to trade for bitcoin.
I do not think so. Localbitcoin is full of scammers and if you are newbie, you may not know where to start or which members are trustworthy. In my opinion, the best way to buy Bitcoin is to find some one in your country who is willing to sell bitcoin to you and  make a deal with him/her

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January 18, 2017, 04:29:19 AM
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We have a local Bitcoin Wallet that lets you convert your Fiat currency in to Bitcoin by way of going to Convenient stores. When you are in one ask for the amount of Bitcoin you are willing to buy than they will give you a coupon for the price equal to the Bitcoin you are buying, after you paid they will later send the BTC to your wallet. I think this is the most easiest way in converting your fiat currency into Bitcoin. Others require a lot of steps in obtaining Bitcoin.
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What are some of the largest retailers who accept bitcoins?

right now, pretty much all of the major stores accept it, so, technically you could simply by a prepaid cc if that is the slow way that you want to go about it.  that puts you on camera and many of the prepaid cards companies are starting to take personal info before set up is complete
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Actually people from third world country don't have opportunity to buy bitcoin easily from any of the bitcoin trading platform like coinbase. Coinbase still don't support many developing countries also in localbitcoins usually deals for this countries are really expensive to buy from using local bank transfer.

However in european countries and china anyone can buy bitcoin or sell it quickly for profit or just buy and hold for long term with peace in mind. This have created a sense of "bitcoin is actually only made for developed countries, Tier-1 countries".  Angry

Locabitcoins is still the easiest way to convert cash into BTC no matter what you say about how more expensive BTC over there is. The premium you pay is the price of more convenience and ease. It still beats the fees for doing a wire transfer to Bitstamp.
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wire transfer are highly traceable
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Currently, the easiest way to convert money into bitcoins is through Localbitcoins.
You can use Coinbase also but it will take some of your personal Info.



In our country there is an app that uses to deposit money into your wallet. And via that wallet it can instantly convert it to bitcoin. It can be deposited tru a atm machine Iike in a convenience store . It is just loading like a e-money.

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Actually people from third world country don't have opportunity to buy bitcoin easily from any of the bitcoin trading platform like coinbase. Coinbase still don't support many developing countries also in localbitcoins usually deals for this countries are really expensive to buy from using local bank transfer.

However in european countries and china anyone can buy bitcoin or sell it quickly for profit or just buy and hold for long term with peace in mind. This have created a sense of "bitcoin is actually only made for developed countries, Tier-1 countries".  Angry

Locabitcoins is still the easiest way to convert cash into BTC no matter what you say about how more expensive BTC over there is. The premium you pay is the price of more convenience and ease. It still beats the fees for doing a wire transfer to Bitstamp.

What i came to know there is less risk in localbitcoins because we can directly meet the person in your local area where you want to sell your bitcoin, but compares to exchanges and other forms buying bitcoin here the cost will be slightly higher. But for the person who want to convert from fiat is bitcoin localbitcoins is the best way to convert them.


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you can use XAPO credit card or cryptopay.me credit card to buy bitcoin from them. You can also use Localbitcoins. Localbitcoins is the fastest and easiest way to buy bitcoins.
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I think every country has a local exchange and I think it is the best method to purchase bitcoin. you can buy the currency of your own country, so no need to first convert it to dollars
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January 18, 2017, 12:52:51 PM
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

In my experience by buying bitcoin is from my atm card I bought BTC through coins.ph one of the in my country who accepted bitcoin on which affiliated in different bank outlet I dont know in the other country maybe you can use poloniex exchange or localbitcoin for you to buy bitcoin using credit card. Just correct me if some of the member here I'm wrong with this thought.
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I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
No this is no way an option, because the fees itself would be outrageous and how much do you think you would be able to buy with phone credits?
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January 18, 2017, 01:15:16 PM
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Personally, I prefer having the ability to exchange BTC <-> Fiat instantly, at any time (especially during big price fluctuations). I see no one recommended E-coin.io (now rebranding to Wirex). It's basically a debit card (both virtual and physical) that is accepted anywhere.

When I need some spare cash, I just open the app and in a couple of mins I have the cash ready. I also like the fact that I can have BTC back at any time. If, let's say, you exchange 0.10 BTC for 100 EUR and BTC price drops to 800EUR/BTC , you can buy BTC back using your card funds. I think the exchange fees are at around 2-3% max and I guess it's worth it for this kind of service. My account is verified though, so be careful with your limits if you don't want to be verified.

Depending on your amount of bitcoin you exchange regularly, I think this may be your best option.

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In my country you have the odd Bitcoin vending machine, but they only allow you to convert limited quantities. The biggest obstacle in

mainstream adoption, would be the involvement of the banks. The governments and the banks seem to be working together to place

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Yes, I know about these BTC vending machines. Actually, a similar solution would be fine for me. I am looking for a method to transfer fiat to BTC DIRECTLY. Like someone visits one of these vending machines, types in some address, puts in some fiat and receives BTC soon. We had one of them in the town where I am living, but it was closed down.

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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
The easiest way is to use your fiat to buy bitcoin in localbitcoins, and buy the bitcoins in a face to face trade, or you can use cash deposit to buy it, another possibility is to use virwox, or you can buy currencies for games and then use that currency to trade for bitcoin.
I do not think so. Localbitcoin is full of scammers and if you are newbie, you may not know where to start or which members are trustworthy. In my opinion, the best way to buy Bitcoin is to find some one in your country who is willing to sell bitcoin to you and  make a deal with him/her
Have you been scammed in localbitcoins?, because I have done some trades there and everything went fine every time, just choose some vendors with good rating, see the feedback they have received to be positive and recent and buy small amounts from different vendors and you will be fine.
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January 19, 2017, 02:51:21 AM
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Currently, the easiest way to convert money into bitcoins is through Localbitcoins.
You can use Coinbase also but it will take some of your personal Info.



yes i agree, this is easiest way for everyone. In my country i used bitcoin.id to buy or sell some coin
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Currently, the easiest way to convert money into bitcoins is through Localbitcoins.
You can use Coinbase also but it will take some of your personal Info.



yes i agree, this is easiest way for everyone. In my country i used bitcoin.id to buy or sell some coin
its much easier to convert btc with your local exchange as it will convert it to your local fiat here in my location we do have certain limits per day as my country have a rules bout money transferring and for me its also much safer.

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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

This is a long term issue not all have Bitcoin as their primary source of income or not many hold money I have Bitcoins. Bitcoin is popular but not that popular that people start putting their money into it. What you could suggest is that they use a exchange or use this forum and have the exchange done. Or maybe best is face to face if possible, but then again the confirmation takes a long time that always will be the issue. Let's see your sms idea how it works.
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

This is a long term issue not all have Bitcoin as their primary source of income or not many hold money I have Bitcoins. Bitcoin is popular but not that popular that people start putting their money into it. What you could suggest is that they use a exchange or use this forum and have the exchange done. Or maybe best is face to face if possible, but then again the confirmation takes a long time that always will be the issue. Let's see your sms idea how it works.

Regards the SMS and Call, that would not be possible. This would mean that the BTC would have be stored with a third party person that will handle all trade whenever there is one. Both parties will have to have an account in that platform, which will mean that parties will not really have control over the bitcoins and it will not go through the blockchain.
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I just use an online wallet exchange (coinjar) to purchase any coins I may need for the following fortnight.

It's an easy way to get coins once you have your account verified but always remember that once those coins clear in your account get them out of there and into an address that you have full control over.

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Currently, the easiest way to convert money into bitcoins is through Localbitcoins.
You can use Coinbase also but it will take some of your personal Info.



In our country there is an app that uses to deposit money into your wallet. And via that wallet it can instantly convert it to bitcoin. It can be deposited tru a atm machine Iike in a convenience store . It is just loading like a e-money.

Thats cool. What country are you from and whats the app called? That might be something developers from other countries can copy from and make fiat to BTC conversions easier.

How is the price of BTC in your app? Sometimes they sell BTC at premium prices making you pay a lot more than the real market price.
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you can use XAPO credit card or cryptopay.me credit card to buy bitcoin from them . Coinbase still don't support many developing countries also in localbitcoins usually deals for these countries.
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you can use XAPO credit card or cryptopay.me credit card to buy bitcoin from them . Coinbase still don't support many developing countries also in localbitcoins usually deals for these countries.
You only just posted this same post on the same page here above, not a good start trying to upload your post count, pretty bloody obvious to anyone.

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The easiest way to convert money into bitcoin is to send money for purchase into the bank account of an exchanger then after sending your documents that you have successfully transferred your money into their account your bitcoins will appear into your wallet. In the Philippines we can easily purchase bitcoin in almost every part of the country by simply using banks or remittance center towards the exchanger to get bitcoins.
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Easiest way is to use localbitcoins.com. It is found in almost all countries.You could even convert your fiat to bitcoins by dealing face to face in localbitcoins.com. Other than this, if you are going to convert your fiat with strangers face to face, better convert your fiat in public places. Thats always safe.
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The exchange i used, have PHP(local currency) to BTC and vice versa that offer instant and seamless exchange 24/7 which is very user friendly.


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well when i was just 15-16years old this was my first problem i faced up because i do not have any bank accounts i am a student so how can i get my money into bitcoin or from bitcoin to money this leads me to first make my own business network in my country. it takes a little time but yes i finally got the way out and made what i have thought, i still do not have any bank account but still i can buy or sell bitcoin anything
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The easiest way is to use Bitcoin as a currency without any conversion. Just get your VISA and pay with BTC at any merchant who accepts VISA. For example, I use Shakepay and very happy  Smiley



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I haven't sat and outright crunched the numbers, but it is a funny thing with both Paxful and Localbitcoins.  I used them for a long time to turn BTC into fiat(via Serve card) and always had the thought to start making trades the other way, fiat to BTC.  The reason for the desire was because I was "losing" money going from BTC to fiat. That really losing money, but getting less than $1 per $1, because of the fees each person charges, the cost of doing business.  So, logic would dictate that when I was ready and had the time I could trade the other direction and make money the same way as the people I was using.  The funny thing is that in order to compete in the areas I was going to service, I would end up losing money that way too.  

I trade on locabitcoins in small amounts and would rather pay more for an instant transaction than deal with copies of ID's and such, so I am paying a more "premium" fee and you should expect that too.  Localbitcoins is easy, it is fast and the escrow service makes it pretty safe, but to get the best price per BTC you have to be willing to do two things.

1. Jump through the hoops a particular seller may set.  This can mean copies of ID's sent or that a Paypal account be verified or whatever.

2. Shop at a different time of day.  

The second option can make the first go away.  There are many sellers out there that will buy and sell on these sites with complete anonymity, but no one is on there 24 hours a day.  The point is, if you rush the process of getting cash from BTC, you may pay a lot more and you may have to jump some hoops.

Paxful allows sellers to post without posting an escrow deposit.  If you find that you are not getting the types of trades you want or need, consider posting your own ad that works for you.  Just follow everything carefully and it is easy.
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(Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?)
Well, if he is your friend, then the easiest way to convert his fiat into bitcoin is to directly accepts his fiat if you are going to do your transaction personally and give him the bitcoin that he will buy to you. In this way he can easily have his bitcoin and start to do something to multiply it.
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Here in our country, even though bitcoin is not yet popular, there are many ways to exchange fiat into bitcoin because of our wallet provider. It gives us many options such as creating a request and pay it on a popular convenience store or the leading money remittance centers.
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and don't forget fees....every transfer you make on the chain very likely has a fee. i know that everyone wants to see some real cash in their hands that was bitcoin a few minutes back, but moving btc around from one exchange to another, one site to another will eat it up in fees.  plus, there are minimum withdrawals on almost every site, so you might move your btc to a site and find that you are under the limit.  research your options, read other people's opinions on the few options you settle on, ask another person and then, sleep on it, literally, make a choice and go to bed, prepared to act on it the next day.  Wake up and if you are still good to go, try it.  then, share your experience here and other places.  many times people find a thread asking their question, read to the end and find the op never came back and shared the results.
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But I cannot tell my IRL clients to use XAPO credit card for a purchase when they just want to buy a product. I think, getting a credit card that supports crypto has an overcomplicated process compared to the service that I have to offer. The same goes for localbitcoins. Doesn't that place work like the client has to choose a "nice" seller first, contact him, discuss with him ... etc.? I am looking for a more "automatic" solution.

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But I cannot tell my IRL clients to use XAPO credit card for a purchase when they just want to buy a product. I think, getting a credit card that supports crypto has an overcomplicated process compared to the service that I have to offer. The same goes for localbitcoins. Doesn't that place work like the client has to choose a "nice" seller first, contact him, discuss with him ... etc.? I am looking for a more "automatic" solution.

if a client is going to pay you in bitcoin, use a site like bitpay.  there is a POS option, or buttons for a webpage.  i do not endorse them, i just have used them.  there is another site that accepts both credit cards and bitcoin.  that solves any professional "payment" issues. 

if it is clients that have fiat and you want to supply them with bitcoin, welll, first legally you a msb license that makes you capable of general currency banking transaction, the license is cheap but you need to qualify for the license.

legal stuff being said, use both a service like paypal and one like bitpay.  have each funded and ready to send money.  the client pays you via paypal $10, once the transaction is complete you send them the bitcoins.  a basic level programmer can work this into a website.  the same can be done in reverse.  for a minimum programming approach that requires your attention to every TX, have both paypal and bitpay alert you via text message when a new transaction occurs.  make sure the web forms require either an email address for paypal or a bitcoin address for bitpay.  you get a text, check either pp or bp and then send the funds from the other account.

the above without a license is highly illegal.  if you never get web traffic you should be fine for sometime, but if your site becomes a success you will be quickly shutdown and never be able to even try for a banking license.  stick to localbitcoins and paxful, i am almost positive that each has a deep API and you can put your offers on your own site.  that allows you to build a rep on an established site and slowly start moving some of the traffic to your private site. 
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Coinbase, BTC-E, Bitstamp and a pretty bunch of other local exchanges and options, This excluding local and personal deals like LBC and paxful which is actually becoming more popular than the traditional official website trading etc...
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

There is one website working exactly like this .... You send a SMS or call a number and you get a code. Once you redeem the code you receive your BTC into your wallet (after some hours as they do this manually and there are 2 guys only). I don't remember the name but i can find it if you want, it's not an english website so a problem could be, foreign countries can't use the number to call.
Usually paying anything with SMS or call is at an outrageous price btw

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Coinbase, BTC-E, Bitstamp and a pretty bunch of other local exchanges and options, This excluding local and personal deals like LBC and paxful which is actually becoming more popular than the traditional official website trading etc...

paxful is getting the attention because someone can make their own ad without depositing anything other than what is needed for the ad.  search engines spit back localbitcoins and paxful and a person that wants to start using a site as more of a business than a client sees a $400 deposit at lbc versus $0 at pax
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Well for me, LocalBitcoins works better than any other option. Simply send out the payment through bank, and get your bitcoins safely with an escrow.
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Well for me, LocalBitcoins works better than any other option. Simply send out the payment through bank, and get your bitcoins safely with an escrow.

paxful has a set of unspoken, i mean utterly unspoken and ever changing rules.  for about three weeks, if you tried to trade less than $5 an alert said there was a $5 limit and you could not do it.  the funny thing was that you could click an offer for $1-5 and get that message, meaning that person had their offer nullified.  a week later, no limits, don't take them too seriously and they can be a good site, but i prefer lbc too
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I personally use LocalBitcoins for such exchanges.
I always exchange with top rated and top trusted members so my experience so far is great.
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I personally use LocalBitcoins for such exchanges.
I always exchange with top rated and top trusted members so my experience so far is great.

omg, that is where i used to be.  for lbc, my computer crashed and i used winauth for 2fa, so that was either wait 2 weeks or....... so i had a good rep on there and i still have to pick through that hard drive for the key

paxful....same thing, but for a phone.  i changed service carriers for my phone, they asked me if i wanted to keep my old number, i thought for a minute and said "no" figuring every few years a new number is nice....and, yep, paxful sends to login 2fa to the number i just gave up....another nicely cultured account..gone
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I personally use LocalBitcoins for such exchanges.
I always exchange with top rated and top trusted members so my experience so far is great.
In our country stores are accepting money to convert in into bitcoin and goes to our wallet. It is very convenient and ni hassle onnce you give the receipt to the cashier and pay it you can have your bitcoin into your wallet. And sometimes I buy bitcoins using my bank funds our bitcoin wallets to are accepting banks funds to trade it in bitcoin. And I can say that is the easiest way to convert money in bitcoin.
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I personally use LocalBitcoins for such exchanges.
I always exchange with top rated and top trusted members so my experience so far is great.
In our country stores are accepting money to convert in into bitcoin and goes to our wallet. It is very convenient and ni hassle onnce you give the receipt to the cashier and pay it you can have your bitcoin into your wallet. And sometimes I buy bitcoins using my bank funds our bitcoin wallets to are accepting banks funds to trade it in bitcoin. And I can say that is the easiest way to convert money in bitcoin.

as far as anonymity, cash to btc connections made on sites like localbitcoins is ideal.  we are just not to the point where most areas have enough supply and demand for it to be 100% in person cash deals, we are getting there.  other than protecting your yourself in a public meeting, this is a nice clean way to exchange and clean medium to small amounts of money. 
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Coinbase, BTC-E, Bitstamp and a pretty bunch of other local exchanges and options, This excluding local and personal deals like LBC and paxful which is actually becoming more popular than the traditional official website trading etc...

paxful is getting the attention because someone can make their own ad without depositing anything other than what is needed for the ad.  search engines spit back localbitcoins and paxful and a person that wants to start using a site as more of a business than a client sees a $400 deposit at lbc versus $0 at pax
i think in ever country there are different exchanges through which people are exchanges their bitcoin into fiat currencies. similarly in my country i am using Urdubit.com exchange. i am using this exchange for a long time and for every time i found it good and without any issue.
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Coinbase, BTC-E, Bitstamp and a pretty bunch of other local exchanges and options, This excluding local and personal deals like LBC and paxful which is actually becoming more popular than the traditional official website trading etc...

paxful is getting the attention because someone can make their own ad without depositing anything other than what is needed for the ad.  search engines spit back localbitcoins and paxful and a person that wants to start using a site as more of a business than a client sees a $400 deposit at lbc versus $0 at pax
i think in ever country there are different exchanges through which people are exchanges their bitcoin into fiat currencies. similarly in my country i am using Urdubit.com exchange. i am using this exchange for a long time and for every time i found it good and without any issue.

i wish these site developers would employ a little php scripting, lol.  it is easy to tell a website to not display or to reroute using location, ip location or other factors.  that way you wouldn't get to the very end of registering on a site to find out they do not service your country
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I use localbitcoins, pretty simple and straight forward

Buying at exchanges can be better, cheaper than localbitcoin, the buy price on localbitcoin is higher than exchange, the sell price is lower, and many scammers with gun may rob us. I prefer buying on exchanges, not offline exchanges.
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Well, the easiest way is by exchanging it in the exchanger. it is the easiest and reliable which is still used today. you just need a bit of courage to do so. if you are free to exchange it because it does not believe in the site, or the exchanger, you can try it out with a small amount
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Yeah, I am looking for a similar service like BitPay, but in the reverse. I want the client to be able to pay with a fiat payment processor like PayPal and I want to receive it in BTC. So, the exchange in between should happen automatically or semi-automatically and in the anonymous way.

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Here in the philippines you can easily buy bitcoins using coins.ph and go to the nearest 7/11 store and buy BTC but if you're from another country and no ways to buy bitcoins using your real money or if you are using paypal you can go to localbitcoins ad find a legit bitcoin sellers and you can get a discount there.

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Yeah, I am looking for a similar service like BitPay, but in the reverse. I want the client to be able to pay with a fiat payment processor like PayPal and I want to receive it in BTC. So, the exchange in between should happen automatically or semi-automatically and in the anonymous way.

if you are talking about developing this type of thing, the foundation would be using both bitpay, since you chose that already and Paypal will work.  use the paypal IPN feature to, or use the url field in your paypal button setup to trigger the API for bitpay
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The easiest way to convert money into bitcoin is to send money for purchase into the bank account of an exchanger then after sending your documents that you have successfully transferred your money into their account your bitcoins will appear into your wallet
Here in our country, even though bitcoin is not yet popular, there are many ways to exchange fiat into bitcoin because of our wallet provider. It gives us many options such as creating a request and pay it on a popular convenience store or the leading money remittance centers.
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Well, the easiest way is by exchanging it in the exchanger. it is the easiest and reliable which is still used today. you just need a bit of courage to do so. if you are free to exchange it because it does not believe in the site, or the exchanger, you can try it out with a small amount
Finding exchanger is easy for another electronic payment method. But finding bitcoin sellers who will be accepting cash is too hard for me in my city. Localbitcoin is showing reasonable priced sellers are some 400 or 500 km away from my location.  I am not still finding the easy ways of buying bitcoins for cash payments.
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Easiest way to convert bitcoins is through local bitcoin exchanges. Yeah but one drawback is there.you have to deal with the banks for that and follow all their procedures. One more easier way is to find a person who wants to sell bitcoins directly to fiat currency. This will be more easy it bypasses all banking procedures and easily you will bitcoins. But one drawback is you should be dealing with a trusted person. Otherwise he can cheat you. So This procedure is more risky compared to the first one.
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Well for me, I only load up my Xapo debit card and then do the shopping from there as I, personally, don't want to hold cash on my hands and it's a hassle. Been using this method for quite some time now, and if in case I needed cash, I just go online at our local exchange and withdraw the money from an ATM. Never had it been so convenient here in the Philippines.

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The easiest so far would be localbitcoins but price is something you have to deal with, they offer much higher price than online. You will find it a better option to have paypal funds and buy btc online from the services or from reputable users here in bitcointalk. There are a lot of these users actually and are willing to accept paypal for a price but not as high as those form localbitcoins.

If you have a card, try jsut registering on exchange that accepts buying btc. Kraken.com and bitfinex I think are just the few.

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The easiest so far would be localbitcoins but price is something you have to deal with, they offer much higher price than online. You will find it a better option to have paypal funds and buy btc online from the services or from reputable users here in bitcointalk. There are a lot of these users actually and are willing to accept paypal for a price but not as high as those form localbitcoins.

If you have a card, try jsut registering on exchange that accepts buying btc. Kraken.com and bitfinex I think are just the few.

more than 79% of the users on localbitcoins xfer coins and fiat on the internet, how is that not online?
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Yeah, I am looking for a similar service like BitPay, but in the reverse. I want the client to be able to pay with a fiat payment processor like PayPal and I want to receive it in BTC. So, the exchange in between should happen automatically or semi-automatically and in the anonymous way.

if you are talking about developing this type of thing, the foundation would be using both bitpay, since you chose that already and Paypal will work.  use the paypal IPN feature to, or use the url field in your paypal button setup to trigger the API for bitpay

I think this will do work. You are asking for something which is not available. But can make it work and it will be useful too if you make it a business coz lots of people want a service like that. It is not easy to convert from crypto to Fiat that way.

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January 22, 2017, 08:11:30 PM
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Yeah, I am looking for a similar service like BitPay, but in the reverse. I want the client to be able to pay with a fiat payment processor like PayPal and I want to receive it in BTC. So, the exchange in between should happen automatically or semi-automatically and in the anonymous way.

if you are talking about developing this type of thing, the foundation would be using both bitpay, since you chose that already and Paypal will work.  use the paypal IPN feature to, or use the url field in your paypal button setup to trigger the API for bitpay

I think this will do work. You are asking for something which is not available. But can make it work and it will be useful too if you make it a business coz lots of people want a service like that. It is not easy to convert from crypto to Fiat that way.

really??  the API for bitpay will return a code once the TX has been confirmed and you script that json to parse the proper pieces of the data to the Paypal API, that is why these API's are there, so that you don't have to do the work, if you would try reading those websites docs instead of asking the same question over and over here you would have the same answer 5 times as quick
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

There are ways to convert your fiat to bitcoin and vice versa but I agree with you--it's a hassle and problems arise sometimes....as more regulation comes into effect, conversions might become easier but they will also become more intrusive   It's a trade off.  Anytime we're dealing with fiat, we will have to deal with the burdens of regulation and governmental oversite which impedes the process. That's why we love bitcoin....it takes out the "trusted third paries" and makes things easier....but for now we will still have to deal with those third parties in some way. Having said that, I never convert my bitcoin to fiat or vice versa....I keep them separate.
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

There are ways to convert your fiat to bitcoin and vice versa but I agree with you--it's a hassle and problems arise sometimes....as more regulation comes into effect, conversions might become easier but they will also become more intrusive   It's a trade off.  Anytime we're dealing with fiat, we will have to deal with the burdens of regulation and governmental oversite which impedes the process. That's why we love bitcoin....it takes out the "trusted third paries" and makes things easier....but for now we will still have to deal with those third parties in some way. Having said that, I never convert my bitcoin to fiat or vice versa....I keep them separate.

the problems arise when someone wants a particular thing done, but applies rules and stipulations to what they want done.  we have a constant stream of clients that request if we can perform service X and we tell them yes and here's how we will do it, the customer replies that they don't want it done that way and they want it done THIS way.  this is why the customer is no longer right in most businesses, because for years the average customer base has become a whinny, immature class of people.  they constantly break minor laws, inconvenience others and all based on a completely self-centered life.  "it is ok for me to illegally park here, because i just need to use the ATM..."  the most powerful word in the english language, capable of minimizing broken laws, hurt people and all manner of inappropriate behavior is JUST.  there is NEVER a good reason to violate a law.  do our clients sometimes break the law? oh yes, they do, but the difference is that they have not deluded themselves into the belief that their actions are ok, they accept that they are doing wrong and do it anyway.  we don't need government oversight, we need mass extermination.  i would rather be surrounded by those that know they are wrong and continue to do so, than those that think they are right because they live in a magic bubble that makes their needs more important than rules, their comfort more important than other people's and their time of greater value than others.  i guarantee that in the demographic we commonly drive through that the schmucks that cut us off in traffic so they can get somewhere faster could fill their car with their friends and still never reach the income of one of us, and therefore they don't come close to paying the income taxes we do, the amount of revenue that we move through the local economy, the charity money we donate and do not even fathom the amount that we contribute to the human race as a whole.

you want to quickly and easily convert fiat to crypto and back again.....there are answers that do not involve third party anything
you want a website that does this so that you can sit back and do nothing to support your own business.....those magic and automated systems will involve a third part in some part
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Here in the philippines you can easily buy bitcoins using coins.ph and go to the nearest 7/11 store and buy BTC but if you're from another country and no ways to buy bitcoins using your real money or if you are using paypal you can go to localbitcoins ad find a legit bitcoin sellers and you can get a discount there.
That is great, I wish buying bitcoins in my country was that easy, in my country there is not an easy way to buy bitcoins, the easiest is localbitcoins but the vendors sell for inflated prices so you cannot get bitcoins at fair prices.
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The easiest so far would be localbitcoins but price is something you have to deal with, they offer much higher price than online. You will find it a better option to have paypal funds and buy btc online from the services or from reputable users here in bitcointalk. There are a lot of these users actually and are willing to accept paypal for a price but not as high as those form localbitcoins.

If you have a card, try jsut registering on exchange that accepts buying btc. Kraken.com and bitfinex I think are just the few.

I'm not sure that, which is the card described in the above quote. Bitcoin ATM cards are good to access if you've bitcoin ATM's around your locality. Dispensing cash from ATM costs you with a increased fee compared to conversion through trading service providers.

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The easiest so far would be localbitcoins but price is something you have to deal with, they offer much higher price than online. You will find it a better option to have paypal funds and buy btc online from the services or from reputable users here in bitcointalk. There are a lot of these users actually and are willing to accept paypal for a price but not as high as those form localbitcoins.

If you have a card, try jsut registering on exchange that accepts buying btc. Kraken.com and bitfinex I think are just the few.

I'm not sure that, which is the card described in the above quote. Bitcoin ATM cards are good to access if you've bitcoin ATM's around your locality. Dispensing cash from ATM costs you with a increased fee compared to conversion through trading service providers.
The fee is expected to increase, but as long as it is justifiable then for sure many will use it for convenience. I have not seen one in my country or specifically in my location, I would love to experiencing cashing out in ATM in the future. I believe it will happen as the more the adoption increases, the more they will be attracted to build an ATM for us.

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The easiest so far would be localbitcoins but price is something you have to deal with, they offer much higher price than online. You will find it a better option to have paypal funds and buy btc online from the services or from reputable users here in bitcointalk. There are a lot of these users actually and are willing to accept paypal for a price but not as high as those form localbitcoins.

If you have a card, try jsut registering on exchange that accepts buying btc. Kraken.com and bitfinex I think are just the few.

I'm not sure that, which is the card described in the above quote. Bitcoin ATM cards are good to access if you've bitcoin ATM's around your locality. Dispensing cash from ATM costs you with a increased fee compared to conversion through trading service providers.

Hi, I wrote earlier in this thread, but didn't get a reply. I'm looking for the debit card which members used and can recommend, I would like to find  VISA/Mastercard without verification and it should be virtual for transactions in internet, preferably I would like to have a card which is linked to a reliable exchange (where no verification is needed), maybe you can recommend something?
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The easiest so far would be localbitcoins but price is something you have to deal with, they offer much higher price than online. You will find it a better option to have paypal funds and buy btc online from the services or from reputable users here in bitcointalk. There are a lot of these users actually and are willing to accept paypal for a price but not as high as those form localbitcoins.

If you have a card, try jsut registering on exchange that accepts buying btc. Kraken.com and bitfinex I think are just the few.

I'm not sure that, which is the card described in the above quote. Bitcoin ATM cards are good to access if you've bitcoin ATM's around your locality. Dispensing cash from ATM costs you with a increased fee compared to conversion through trading service providers.

Hi, I wrote earlier in this thread, but didn't get a reply. I'm looking for the debit card which members used and can recommend, I would like to find  VISA/Mastercard without verification and it should be virtual for transactions in internet, preferably I would like to have a card which is linked to a reliable exchange (where no verification is needed), maybe you can recommend something?
I don't think there are virtual credit cards that can provide you without verification. Even my Local Wallet's virtual credit card needs a separate verification process. On the other hand the reason why is it more expensive in buying Bitcoin compared to its worth because that is how Local Bitcoin owners profit from their Bitcoin. When you see FOREX the Buy side is much higher than the sell side.
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The easiest so far would be localbitcoins but price is something you have to deal with, they offer much higher price than online. You will find it a better option to have paypal funds and buy btc online from the services or from reputable users here in bitcointalk. There are a lot of these users actually and are willing to accept paypal for a price but not as high as those form localbitcoins.

If you have a card, try jsut registering on exchange that accepts buying btc. Kraken.com and bitfinex I think are just the few.

I'm not sure that, which is the card described in the above quote. Bitcoin ATM cards are good to access if you've bitcoin ATM's around your locality. Dispensing cash from ATM costs you with a increased fee compared to conversion through trading service providers.

Hi, I wrote earlier in this thread, but didn't get a reply. I'm looking for the debit card which members used and can recommend, I would like to find  VISA/Mastercard without verification and it should be virtual for transactions in internet, preferably I would like to have a card which is linked to a reliable exchange (where no verification is needed), maybe you can recommend something?
I don't think there are virtual credit cards that can provide you without verification. Even my Local Wallet's virtual credit card needs a separate verification process. On the other hand the reason why is it more expensive in buying Bitcoin compared to its worth because that is how Local Bitcoin owners profit from their Bitcoin. When you see FOREX the Buy side is much higher than the sell side.

Well, I found this but I would like to understand if anyone really used it and to get some feedback, so many website who suggest wallets and cards nowadays, and the quantity of scam shit is so high, so would like to understand whether I can use it or not.
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I personally use LocalBitcoins for such exchanges.
I always exchange with top rated and top trusted members so my experience so far is great.
Yes you need to investigate if the seller or buyer is trusted or not if not meetups and you can find here in the forum many people looking for exchanging btc to real money because of emergency or other reasons or in rush.

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Can use Exchange websites that help in the conversion of bitcoin to fiat. Finding the legit website is most important at the beginning. Different countries have different exchanges that're popular among the people.

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January 24, 2017, 12:38:26 PM
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Some convenience store have this option already as long as they connected to one website wallet. I think it will depend on the wallet sites, if they will open up new options specially those who are easier to access by people. This have been a hard thing also from the past considering there are limited options to pick and you will need to exchange it to different sites before it could end up being bitcoin.
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Some convenience store have this option already as long as they connected to one website wallet. I think it will depend on the wallet sites, if they will open up new options specially those who are easier to access by people. This have been a hard thing also from the past considering there are limited options to pick and you will need to exchange it to different sites before it could end up being bitcoin.
If you are in india or philippines you have this option that you can go to convenience store to deposit your money and convert into bitcoin but for other country i think they are still dont have this option to convert their money instead they will choose their credit card to connect online to buy bitcoins.. like in coinbase but coinbase right now is not a good place to buy bitcoins because many people are experience many problem and i think they are turning into  scam..
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This is an easy thing, we went to the exchanger as yobit, poloniex and forth for bitcoin conversion. Wallet sites like xapo or Coinbase also provide this feature.
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January 24, 2017, 02:22:52 PM
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If you live in my country, change fiat into BTC is easy and fast. Because here existing local exchangers that accept the currency of this country and can directly trade with BTC. And also provided some altcoin such as ETH and DOGE. But I also still use yobit to invest in other altcoin, because there are a lot of choices.
So essentially depends on what currency you use, if you have a currency exchanger local it will be easier to convert fiat into BTC. Thank you.
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I personally use LocalBitcoins for such exchanges.
I always exchange with top rated and top trusted members so my experience so far is great.
Yes you need to investigate if the seller or buyer is trusted or not if not meetups and you can find here in the forum many people looking for exchanging btc to real money because of emergency or other reasons or in rush.

if in your country have a local website that accepting money and can help people to converted their money into btc, then its a good option for you and you can try to use them to withdraw your bitcoin. but the best option is if you can find your friends that could be a seller then you can directly converts money into btc with your friend.



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I think I know easier way than the way you mention. we can convert our bitcoin into fiat by selling those bitcoins in a local online exchanger like vip.bitcoin. so the money will be transferred into your friend's account. rather than sending messages to bank.

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Make sure you know how much a bitcoin is worth, because the price tends to fluctuate. Use a trading website which is used as a source of bitcoin interchange. However, there are trading website you can find on the web.If you do not see an offer that jumps out at you, you can create an advertisement for your bitcoins.Choose a payment method that you are comfortable with. Some of the common options are Paypal or a cash deposit.Set the terms of the transaction. This can include items like what hours a potential buyer can contact you and in what way, or to inform potential buyers of security precautions you would like to take, such as requiring an ID.Load the bitcoins that you would like to sell to the website's wallet. You will need to send your bitcoins to your account on the website that you are using to trade. If you don't have bitcoins in that wallet, you will not be able to sell any.Reply to potential buyers. Buyers will contact you and you will receive a notification from the website. When you reply, tell them which method you would like them to use to pay.Confirm the payment. When a buyer marks a payment as complete, the amount of bitcoins they want to buy will be placed in escrow. This reserves the bitcoins for the buyer, and the deal can no longer be canceled. Once you have received the payment, you can release the bitcoins.
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January 24, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
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It seems to me that the easiest way when I want to convert fiat to bitcoin is using localbitcoins because there is no need to deal with banks or give any information about my identity. Moreover the process is fast enough and there is escrow service in case of any dispute between buyer and seller. Besides that, I can use an ATM machine but fees are very high; so I use it only if I am in a hurry and I have not time to use the localbitcoins.
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January 24, 2017, 04:15:28 PM
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It seems to me that the easiest way when I want to convert fiat to bitcoin is using localbitcoins because there is no need to deal with banks or give any information about my identity. Moreover the process is fast enough and there is escrow service in case of any dispute between buyer and seller. Besides that, I can use an ATM machine but fees are very high; so I use it only if I am in a hurry and I have not time to use the localbitcoins.
Localbitcoins are hit or miss, you can find a good deal or you will end up with some jerk as your trading partner, deal with it only if you have strong backbone.
Not to mention trading fees are often very high, just because you are selling/buying bitcoins in pseudo anonymous environment. Bitcoin ATMs are still a rarity, I never seen it in my city.
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January 24, 2017, 05:11:26 PM
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Localbitcoins are hit or miss, you can find a good deal or you will end up with some jerk as your trading partner, deal with it only if you have strong backbone.
Not to mention trading fees are often very high, just because you are selling/buying bitcoins in pseudo anonymous environment. Bitcoin ATMs are still a rarity, I never seen it in my city.

I have never faced any issues with Localbitcoins, at least while dealing with buyers and sellers with good reputation. Once I had some trouble with some newbie, but the Localbitcoins admin cancelled the trade and reimbursed my coins. And once again, I would disagree with you on the fees. Now the markup is as low as 1% or 2% in Localbitcoins.
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January 24, 2017, 06:59:01 PM
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irl exchanges through local communities works best for me, you should give it a try
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January 24, 2017, 07:03:25 PM
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Either converting money to btc or btc to money I would prefer to do it on localbitcoins as that is the most trusted site with trusted traders and they use escrow services so there is no chance of getting cheated so whenever I have to sell my bitcoins I prefer it to do it on localbitcoins.
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January 25, 2017, 12:38:09 AM
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Either converting money to btc or btc to money I would prefer to do it on localbitcoins as that is the most trusted site with trusted traders and they use escrow services so there is no chance of getting cheated so whenever I have to sell my bitcoins I prefer it to do it on localbitcoins.

what information are you basing the "most trusted" part of your statement on?  i am not disputing this, simply asking that you back the statement up with facts, where did you get the facts that you made the statement on?
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January 25, 2017, 02:28:35 AM
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The easiest so far would be localbitcoins but price is something you have to deal with, they offer much higher price than online. You will find it a better option to have paypal funds and buy btc online from the services or from reputable users here in bitcointalk. There are a lot of these users actually and are willing to accept paypal for a price but not as high as those form localbitcoins.

If you have a card, try jsut registering on exchange that accepts buying btc. Kraken.com and bitfinex I think are just the few.

I'm not sure that, which is the card described in the above quote. Bitcoin ATM cards are good to access if you've bitcoin ATM's around your locality. Dispensing cash from ATM costs you with a increased fee compared to conversion through trading service providers.

Hi, I wrote earlier in this thread, but didn't get a reply. I'm looking for the debit card which members used and can recommend, I would like to find  VISA/Mastercard without verification and it should be virtual for transactions in internet, preferably I would like to have a card which is linked to a reliable exchange (where no verification is needed), maybe you can recommend something?
Maybe you could try coinizy it is a virtual credit card you can get for cheap, they have a thread in the forum in the digital goods section and you can receive a vouch for a free vcc if you qualify maybe you can try it and see if you like it.
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The easiest so far would be localbitcoins but price is something you have to deal with, they offer much higher price than online. You will find it a better option to have paypal funds and buy btc online from the services or from reputable users here in bitcointalk. There are a lot of these users actually and are willing to accept paypal for a price but not as high as those form localbitcoins.

If you have a card, try jsut registering on exchange that accepts buying btc. Kraken.com and bitfinex I think are just the few.

I'm not sure that, which is the card described in the above quote. Bitcoin ATM cards are good to access if you've bitcoin ATM's around your locality. Dispensing cash from ATM costs you with a increased fee compared to conversion through trading service providers.

Hi, I wrote earlier in this thread, but didn't get a reply. I'm looking for the debit card which members used and can recommend, I would like to find  VISA/Mastercard without verification and it should be virtual for transactions in internet, preferably I would like to have a card which is linked to a reliable exchange (where no verification is needed), maybe you can recommend something?
Maybe you could try coinizy it is a virtual credit card you can get for cheap, they have a thread in the forum in the digital goods section and you can receive a vouch for a free vcc if you qualify maybe you can try it and see if you like it.

just remember that restricts your uses to online purchases, unless you use that card to load a different account
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January 25, 2017, 06:23:51 AM
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I think, Exchanger with fiat currency is a right and easiest way ever to convert money into bitcoin.

Many countries have fiat currency exchanger which allows user to buy or sell bitcoin with exact current market rate by trading.
Its quite secure process as most of bank which are connected to exchanger for deposit and withdrawal of fiat currency always keep KYC of user before making any transaction.

Except this there are other ways to such as Btc2Bid or Localbitcoin. But I prefer Local Exchanger.

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January 25, 2017, 06:52:05 AM
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For me if i need my bitcoin to convert into cash quickly i just trade peer-to-peer from a friend i know that exchanges money to bitcoin. I will pay him my bitcoin and send me immediately a cash through some remittance or to my credit card. I pay him with the fees included he ask. It's faster for me than transferring it to banks or cashout through remittance which takes 4 hours or more because you need some verification codes to ensure that you are cashing out.
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I think, Exchanger with fiat currency is a right and easiest way ever to convert money into bitcoin.

Many countries have fiat currency exchanger which allows user to buy or sell bitcoin with exact current market rate by trading.
Its quite secure process as most of bank which are connected to exchanger for deposit and withdrawal of fiat currency always keep KYC of user before making any transaction.

Except this, there are other ways to such as Btc2Bid or Localbitcoin. But I prefer Local Exchanger.


I will also prefer a local exchanger, and their charges are low compared to another exchanger. And we can easily make a trade with our local currency. The buying charge is a bit high to compare online price, but the selling price is almost same. If you want to convert your BTC to fiat better use locale exchangers. I will not buy coins from fiat currency I just sell my coins, to convert fiat. So this local exchanger is good for me.
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January 25, 2017, 07:09:38 AM
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Website wallets are offering different options now so it is not much of a problem anymore. The real problem is the other way around. As of now I still have one option for converting bitcoin to fiat and I think there is a reason for this. They really want bitcoin to be more used than bringing it back to fiat.

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For me if i need my bitcoin to convert into cash quickly i just trade peer-to-peer from a friend i know that exchanges money to bitcoin. I will pay him my bitcoin and send me immediately a cash through some remittance or to my credit card. I pay him with the fees included he ask. It's faster for me than transferring it to banks or cashout through remittance which takes 4 hours or more because you need some verification codes to ensure that you are cashing out.

It seems we are lucky here in our country since an exchange works the same like these except they charge 3.5% for the transaction.  We have an option to convert and cashout thru bank or remittance.  Though it take some time for some option before we receive the money.



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January 25, 2017, 07:14:02 AM
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I think, Exchanger with fiat currency is a right and easiest way ever to convert money into bitcoin.

Many countries have fiat currency exchanger which allows user to buy or sell bitcoin with exact current market rate by trading.
Its quite secure process as most of bank which are connected to exchanger for deposit and withdrawal of fiat currency always keep KYC of user before making any transaction.

Except this there are other ways to such as Btc2Bid or Localbitcoin. But I prefer Local Exchanger.


Thats right mate the currency exchangers that available with your country would be the easy options since in evry countries we have our own btc to fiat exchange service correct me if im wrong or i can say most of the countries have this exchange service. Its easy the only problem or disadvantage is its also much cheaper when converting it using the exchange.

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January 25, 2017, 07:35:13 AM
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For me if i need my bitcoin to convert into cash quickly i just trade peer-to-peer from a friend i know that exchanges money to bitcoin. I will pay him my bitcoin and send me immediately a cash through some remittance or to my credit card. I pay him with the fees included he ask. It's faster for me than transferring it to banks or cashout through remittance which takes 4 hours or more because you need some verification codes to ensure that you are cashing out.
That is really nice. At least you still have a trustful friend who has Bitcoin and provides them to you. I still wonder where he get those Bitcoin. Does he use any exchanger or what? In my country, it is very hard to convert FIAT into Bitcoin due to the fact that there are not many people using Bitcoin. Therefore, I have to by paypal and use it to buy Bitcoin from online sellers.

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January 25, 2017, 10:11:50 AM
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Maybe you could try coinizy it is a virtual credit card you can get for cheap, they have a thread in the forum in the digital goods section and you can receive a vouch for a free vcc if you qualify maybe you can try it and see if you like it.

just remember that restricts your uses to online purchases, unless you use that card to load a different account

Hi, thank you guys for advice and comments, appreciated. At the end I decided to open a new topic where described situation and got feedback from different members, and it was much more efficient in collection of information.
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I have no problem about converting money into bitcoin. You need to sign up on the online wallets only. Just like what I'm doing when I am starting bitcoin. Then after that, even you haven't verify it yet you can buy bitcoin for money or vise-versa. Then you can do what you.want on it, trading , investing or storing.

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January 25, 2017, 01:05:35 PM
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For me if i need my bitcoin to convert into cash quickly i just trade peer-to-peer from a friend i know that exchanges money to bitcoin. I will pay him my bitcoin and send me immediately a cash through some remittance or to my credit card. I pay him with the fees included he ask. It's faster for me than transferring it to banks or cashout through remittance which takes 4 hours or more because you need some verification codes to ensure that you are cashing out.

It seems we are lucky here in our country since an exchange works the same like these except they charge 3.5% for the transaction.  We have an option to convert and cashout thru bank or remittance.  Though it take some time for some option before we receive the money.

Countries like that who can easily purchase bitcoin and can easily convert it to fiat currency are really great. Im from the Philippines and I am thankful to have an escrow services that gives us the comfort of accessing bitcoin instantly. We just need to click cash-out and then we select as to where we will send our money in exchange for the bitcoin.
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Website wallets are offering different options now so it is not much of a problem anymore. The real problem is the other way around. As of now I still have one option for converting bitcoin to fiat and I think there is a reason for this. They really want bitcoin to be more used than bringing it back to fiat.

Yes, most online wallets give you the option of transferring your fiat and converting them to bitcoins via credit card. There is no geographical limitation on this. but when you go other way around, bitcoin back to fiat, you have to find the local traders who will convert it in your local currency.









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You can always get a bitcoin debit card or use services we ourselves offer as well:

https://paxful.com/

There are also bitcoin ATM's if you want to do it in person. The best way IMO is to find someone and trade with them. That way you can learn as well.
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January 25, 2017, 02:25:30 PM
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Website wallets are offering different options now so it is not much of a problem anymore. The real problem is the other way around. As of now I still have one option for converting bitcoin to fiat and I think there is a reason for this. They really want bitcoin to be more used than bringing it back to fiat.

Yes, most online wallets give you the option of transferring your fiat and converting them to bitcoins via credit card. There is no geographical limitation on this. but when you go other way around, bitcoin back to fiat, you have to find the local traders who will convert it in your local currency.
Yes, i agree with you.
You can convert money into BTC, there is a lot of online wallet which there is the option of transferring your fiat and converting them to bitcoins via credit card or maybe bank transfer like neteller.
With Xapo wallet you can doing that without any problems, And if you want to convert bitcoin to fiat ( EUR, USD etc...)
- Neteller have this option of deposit with bitcoin and getting fiat.
- You can find local traders to doing this convert for exemple in LocalBitcoins.com

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Website wallets are offering different options now so it is not much of a problem anymore. The real problem is the other way around. As of now I still have one option for converting bitcoin to fiat and I think there is a reason for this. They really want bitcoin to be more used than bringing it back to fiat.

Yes, most online wallets give you the option of transferring your fiat and converting them to bitcoins via credit card. There is no geographical limitation on this. but when you go other way around, bitcoin back to fiat, you have to find the local traders who will convert it in your local currency.
Of course,nowadays it is so easy to convert your fiat money to Bitcoins.Obviously there such of online wallet could be the best choice.You may use coinbase,Xapo,paxful etc just go any of them that you have interested more and purchase you bitcoin instead of your local money.Though there have multiple option for converting bitcoin to fiat and I think choose your right one which you feel good.
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The problem is that currently most exchanges have to get information on their customer for money laundering reason or face going to jail, its that simple.  i agree currently it is not that easy to get fiat into BTC but hopefully in the future it will get better, but i cant see it ever being anonymous .
It is the opposite my fellow member. Bitcoin is valued what it is right now due to demand, I doubt that no one will accept your Fiat currency in exchange for their Bitcoin. Also have you look up at your Local Wallet? They offer pretty neat ways on how to convert your Fiat into Bitcoin without following or updating your said information it is like buying candy from a convenience store.
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Website wallets are offering different options now so it is not much of a problem anymore. The real problem is the other way around. As of now I still have one option for converting bitcoin to fiat and I think there is a reason for this. They really want bitcoin to be more used than bringing it back to fiat.

Yes, most online wallets give you the option of transferring your fiat and converting them to bitcoins via credit card. There is no geographical limitation on this. but when you go other way around, bitcoin back to fiat, you have to find the local traders who will convert it in your local currency.

Obviously we have to reach the trader to exchange fiat to bitcoins. Simply to say buying bitcoins from the btc traders. I would suggest you to try with localbitcoins. Where trading is much safer than other site, else you could move to local traders available in your city.
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Website wallets are offering different options now so it is not much of a problem anymore. The real problem is the other way around. As of now I still have one option for converting bitcoin to fiat and I think there is a reason for this. They really want bitcoin to be more used than bringing it back to fiat.

Yes, most online wallets give you the option of transferring your fiat and converting them to bitcoins via credit card. There is no geographical limitation on this. but when you go other way around, bitcoin back to fiat, you have to find the local traders who will convert it in your local currency.

Obviously we have to reach the trader to exchange fiat to bitcoins. Simply to say buying bitcoins from the btc traders. I would suggest you to try with localbitcoins. Where trading is much safer than other site, else you could move to local traders available in your city.

anyone that cannot reach a local trader should get off the internet and put that money towards moving to a real city
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Website wallets are offering different options now so it is not much of a problem anymore. The real problem is the other way around. As of now I still have one option for converting bitcoin to fiat and I think there is a reason for this. They really want bitcoin to be more used than bringing it back to fiat.

Yes, most online wallets give you the option of transferring your fiat and converting them to bitcoins via credit card. There is no geographical limitation on this. but when you go other way around, bitcoin back to fiat, you have to find the local traders who will convert it in your local currency.

Obviously we have to reach the trader to exchange fiat to bitcoins. Simply to say buying bitcoins from the btc traders. I would suggest you to try with localbitcoins. Where trading is much safer than other site, else you could move to local traders available in your city.

This is my recommendation also, localbitcoins is one of the best ways to buy or sell Bitcoins. I have great experiences because I have trusted local trader there which makes everything much more easier and convenient. You can use your language, your local currency, even arange face to face trading. Good luck!

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The most easiest way is to sell to friends who will pay you your money for cash but you might now have to wavesome premium as it is better than losing all because of the way scams are all over the internet space. I have fallen victim before so I know what I'm saying.
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The most easiest way is to sell to friends who will pay you your money for cash but you might now have to wavesome premium as it is better than losing all because of the way scams are all over the internet space. I have fallen victim before so I know what I'm saying.

you can't put together a coherent sentence.  you got scammed because you have no clue what is happening around you
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I faced this problem just today. I didn't used my card for a month and totally forgot my pin code to it. And couldn't find the paper from bank where it should be written. I decided to buy some mBTC and transfer it to my boyfriend to he cash it out through his card. But on the site where I always selling my bitcoins to cash it out on my card, YoBit, I just couldn't manage it anyhow. I am very disappointed now.
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I faced this problem just today. I didn't used my card for a month and totally forgot my pin code to it. And couldn't find the paper from bank where it should be written. I decided to buy some mBTC and transfer it to my boyfriend to he cash it out through his card. But on the site where I always selling my bitcoins to cash it out on my card, YoBit, I just couldn't manage it anyhow. I am very disappointed now.

this is good, we can keep weeding people like you out and have a nice network soon
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i think cryptopay.me is the best , you can buy btc with CC
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i think cryptopay.me is the best , you can buy btc with CC

doesn't work in the usa does it?
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Easiest way i can think of to transfer fiat to bitcoin is if you know a friend who already has some and offer to buy some off him, if his a good friend he would probably do the deal for close to market rate.

About the only other options you have are places like localbitcoins and exchages.

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i think cryptopay.me is the best , you can buy btc with CC

doesn't work in the usa does it?
You said true . Here instead to go for such sites or exchanges . I will suggest to ho for the direct deal . I mean go for the direct deal P2P to convert your money into bitcoin . I will suggest to visit at localbitcoins.com . Because Herr you will find every way of payment to convert you money into bitcoin . Even you can change your gift card into bitcoin .
Otherwise you can start hard work ( like advertisment for signature campaign ) to get bitcoin and then start your bitcoin buisiness in a perfect way .

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Localbitcoins, and bitcoin ATM's are easiest. On Bitstamp you can again buy bitcoins with credit card, but if I remember right fee is rather big, I think bank took me $40 for $250 purchase. It's not Bitstamp's fee, its my bank fee. Also I bought with local exchange from my country, payed with bank wire, and took me around $20 for $250 purchase.
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Yeah, I am looking for a similar service like BitPay, but in the reverse. I want the client to be able to pay with a fiat payment processor like PayPal and I want to receive it in BTC. So, the exchange in between should happen automatically or semi-automatically and in the anonymous way.

if you are talking about developing this type of thing, the foundation would be using both bitpay, since you chose that already and Paypal will work.  use the paypal IPN feature to, or use the url field in your paypal button setup to trigger the API for bitpay

It is a good idea, but doesn't such a service exist already? If yes, what is the service's name? I would not necessarily create a new service when someone put this very good idea into a stable implementation already. Thank you for the advice, though!

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In my country, there are several Bitcoin ATMs. It is one of the easiest and hassle-free ways to convert fiat to BTC. But I have never used them, as the fees is too high (5% to 7% depending on the brand). I have made all of my Bitcoin purchases through Localbitcoins, making the payment through local bank transfer. The government can track this, and I am a bit worried.
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In my country, there are several Bitcoin ATMs. It is one of the easiest and hassle-free ways to convert fiat to BTC. But I have never used them, as the fees is too high (5% to 7% depending on the brand). I have made all of my Bitcoin purchases through Localbitcoins, making the payment through local bank transfer. The government can track this, and I am a bit worried.

The fees are really too high and that's already a good savings to my bank account but here in my country there is no bitcoin ATM at the moment. But most of my fellow countrymen are using virwox, localbitcoins and coinbase for buying bitcoins. Although most of them are good enough but the fees are really killing me.

Localbitcoins and Coinbase is OK. But VirWox? I remember purchasing Bitcoins through VirWox in 2012. First I had to purchase Second Life Linden Dollars using my credit card, and then use these Linden Dollars to purchase Bitcoins. In the end I paid around 20% premium. That was the first and last time I tried purchasing Bitcoins through VirWox.
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In my country, there are several Bitcoin ATMs. It is one of the easiest and hassle-free ways to convert fiat to BTC. But I have never used them, as the fees is too high (5% to 7% depending on the brand). I have made all of my Bitcoin purchases through Localbitcoins, making the payment through local bank transfer. The government can track this, and I am a bit worried.

The fees are really too high and that's already a good savings to my bank account but here in my country there is no bitcoin ATM at the moment. But most of my fellow countrymen are using virwox, localbitcoins and coinbase for buying bitcoins. Although most of them are good enough but the fees are really killing me.

Localbitcoins and Coinbase is OK. But VirWox? I remember purchasing Bitcoins through VirWox in 2012. First I had to purchase Second Life Linden Dollars using my credit card, and then use these Linden Dollars to purchase Bitcoins. In the end I paid around 20% premium. That was the first and last time I tried purchasing Bitcoins through VirWox.

I also used Virwox many times but not because I needed to buy Bitcoin.
In fact, I had to exchange some of my BTC funds to Paypal, in order to join some online business.
I didn't find better exchange service btc-pypal from Virwox.
As you know, it's not possible to directly exchange funds between Paypal and your btc wallet.
Their fees?
Yes, high but not 20 %, more between 10-12 % from my experience.

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January 26, 2017, 03:16:52 PM
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In my country, there are several Bitcoin ATMs. It is one of the easiest and hassle-free ways to convert fiat to BTC. But I have never used them, as the fees is too high (5% to 7% depending on the brand). I have made all of my Bitcoin purchases through Localbitcoins, making the payment through local bank transfer. The government can track this, and I am a bit worried.

The fees are really too high and that's already a good savings to my bank account but here in my country there is no bitcoin ATM at the moment. But most of my fellow countrymen are using virwox, localbitcoins and coinbase for buying bitcoins. Although most of them are good enough but the fees are really killing me.

Localbitcoins and Coinbase is OK. But VirWox? I remember purchasing Bitcoins through VirWox in 2012. First I had to purchase Second Life Linden Dollars using my credit card, and then use these Linden Dollars to purchase Bitcoins. In the end I paid around 20% premium. That was the first and last time I tried purchasing Bitcoins through VirWox.

I also used Virwox many times but not because I needed to buy Bitcoin.
In fact, I had to exchange some of my BTC funds to Paypal, in order to join some online business.
I didn't find better exchange service btc-pypal from Virwox.
As you know, it's not possible to directly exchange funds between Paypal and your btc wallet.
Their fees?
Yes, high but not 20 %, more between 10-12 % from my experience.


virwox is high, but you are in and out in less than a minute, they may hold any of your transactions though, based on some security issue they have that they will never disclose
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January 26, 2017, 04:12:46 PM
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Either converting money to btc or btc to money I would prefer to do it on localbitcoins as that is the most trusted site with trusted traders and they use escrow services so there is no chance of getting cheated so whenever I have to sell my bitcoins I prefer it to do it on localbitcoins.
It is true that local bitcoins is a great way to sell bitcoin, but in my opinion it is not a good way to buy as the users propose a price that is higher than the current bitcoin value and that is not a good investment, for me I think buying bitcoin directly from bitcoin wallets is at the time safe and you get to buy with the same price as the current price.
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Easiest way i can think of to transfer fiat to bitcoin is if you know a friend who already has some and offer to buy some off him, if his a good friend he would probably do the deal for close to market rate.

About the only other options you have are places like localbitcoins and exchages.

I also think that a friend who wants to buy Bitcoin is the best option. Fortunately I know one guy who purchased from me already couple of times. And he's glad about the deal since BTC rised since then. Of course I know it's much trickier to find a person who would buy bigger amounts, mine were around $20 worth of Bitcoin.
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Easiest way i can think of to transfer fiat to bitcoin is if you know a friend who already has some and offer to buy some off him, if his a good friend he would probably do the deal for close to market rate.

About the only other options you have are places like localbitcoins and exchages.

I also think that a friend who wants to buy Bitcoin is the best option. Fortunately I know one guy who purchased from me already couple of times. And he's glad about the deal since BTC rised since then. Of course I know it's much trickier to find a person who would buy bigger amounts, mine were around $20 worth of Bitcoin.
Well, this may be a bit similar to what I experienced, but I was in the opposite position. I also always exchange money I have with bitcoin through my friends. Well, I know he always sells bitcoin its price is quite high, but I'm glad if it has a very fast process.

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January 26, 2017, 05:20:50 PM
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Either converting money to btc or btc to money I would prefer to do it on localbitcoins as that is the most trusted site with trusted traders and they use escrow services so there is no chance of getting cheated so whenever I have to sell my bitcoins I prefer it to do it on localbitcoins.
It is true that local bitcoins is a great way to sell bitcoin, but in my opinion it is not a good way to buy as the users propose a price that is higher than the current bitcoin value and that is not a good investment, for me I think buying bitcoin directly from bitcoin wallets is at the time safe and you get to buy with the same price as the current price.

Local bitcoin can be a bit troublesome because some agent may hide your identity to see if you have the MTL to sell your bitcoin and arrest you if not, other people may steal your money in real life when you go to meet them after you agree on the transaction on localbitcoin, i prefer to use a simple exchange like kraken that do not ask for ID

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January 26, 2017, 05:24:55 PM
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Either converting money to btc or btc to money I would prefer to do it on localbitcoins as that is the most trusted site with trusted traders and they use escrow services so there is no chance of getting cheated so whenever I have to sell my bitcoins I prefer it to do it on localbitcoins.
It is true that local bitcoins is a great way to sell bitcoin, but in my opinion it is not a good way to buy as the users propose a price that is higher than the current bitcoin value and that is not a good investment, for me I think buying bitcoin directly from bitcoin wallets is at the time safe and you get to buy with the same price as the current price.

Local bitcoin can be a bit troublesome because some agent may hide your identity to see if you have the MTL to sell your bitcoin and arrest you if not, other people may steal your money in real life when you go to meet them after you agree on the transaction on localbitcoin, i prefer to use a simple exchange like kraken that do not ask for ID

they cannot arrest you, it is used as a commodity transfer
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Either converting money to btc or btc to money I would prefer to do it on localbitcoins as that is the most trusted site with trusted traders and they use escrow services so there is no chance of getting cheated so whenever I have to sell my bitcoins I prefer it to do it on localbitcoins.
It is true that local bitcoins is a great way to sell bitcoin, but in my opinion it is not a good way to buy as the users propose a price that is higher than the current bitcoin value and that is not a good investment, for me I think buying bitcoin directly from bitcoin wallets is at the time safe and you get to buy with the same price as the current price.
Yes  localbitcoins is the best place to sell and buy your bitcoins.  But I will use local exchanger in my country to sell my bitcoins. They will give you exact price what the Google showing and in sometime the price is higher than that. So find any local exchanger otherwise bitcoin wallets is the best and safe place to convert your money to bitcoins.
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Localbitcoins, and bitcoin ATM's are easiest. On Bitstamp you can again buy bitcoins with credit card, but if I remember right fee is rather big, I think bank took me $40 for $250 purchase. It's not Bitstamp's fee, its my bank fee. Also I bought with local exchange from my country, payed with bank wire, and took me around $20 for $250 purchase.
All of the website that has feature of buying bitcoins using credit cards has a big fee the best thing to convert money into bitcoins is to find a legit seller not in the website because website is a business it has automatically have a fee when you transacting but when you buy in people you will get a discount.

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Localbitcoins, and bitcoin ATM's are easiest. On Bitstamp you can again buy bitcoins with credit card, but if I remember right fee is rather big, I think bank took me $40 for $250 purchase. It's not Bitstamp's fee, its my bank fee. Also I bought with local exchange from my country, payed with bank wire, and took me around $20 for $250 purchase.
All of the website that has feature of buying bitcoins using credit cards has a big fee the best thing to convert money into bitcoins is to find a legit seller not in the website because website is a business it has automatically have a fee when you transacting but when you buy in people you will get a discount.

every time check both localbitcoins and paxful prior to making another trade elsewhere.  right now, i am using paxful for changing bitcoins to american express serve and the exchange is nearly even money.  I did a small one recently as an example and got $4.01 of serve for $4.18 of BTC.  That does not account for the 0.0005 fee to move the BTC in, but that is nothing.

i wish i knew what was up with these guys and squarepay.  i cannot bring myself to do it, but they often offer 500% for BTC to squarepay.  I do have a squarepay account, but have no idea what their policies are on reversed TX's.  if it was paypal, i would expect a near immediate reverse on a payment with a 500% pop, serve does not allow reversals.  there is either a scam there or they have a shitload of btc that they want to unload.

alos, paxful allows almost anyone to post a trade and use only the built in escrow.  localbitcoins wants a $400 deposit in addition to the amount of the posted ad.  so, if i want to post a paxful ad for $50 BTC to whatever, i only need the $50 in btc in the account, on localbitcoins i would need $450 in the account.  that means a lbc user has a little more to lose scamming, but if you use either site right, you are fine, since both sites hold the funds in escrow until you say to release them.
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January 27, 2017, 03:19:45 AM
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Yes  localbitcoins is the best place to sell and buy your bitcoins.  But I will use local exchanger in my country to sell my bitcoins. They will give you exact price what the Google showing and in sometime the price is higher than that. So find any local exchanger otherwise bitcoin wallets is the best and safe place to convert your money to bitcoins.

It seems localbitcoins is a popular choice and I do agree. aside from local bitcoins you can also buy in trading exchanges and there are plenty of it. Also a local wallet is a good way to exchange or convert to btc like in the case of coins.ph .

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Yes  localbitcoins is the best place to sell and buy your bitcoins.  But I will use local exchanger in my country to sell my bitcoins. They will give you exact price what the Google showing and in sometime the price is higher than that. So find any local exchanger otherwise bitcoin wallets is the best and safe place to convert your money to bitcoins.

It seems localbitcoins is a popular choice and I do agree. aside from local bitcoins you can also buy in trading exchanges and there are plenty of it. Also a local wallet is a good way to exchange or convert to btc like in the case of coins.ph .

i would like to see lbc and paxful expand a little bit on the crypto.  they would gain a lot of people if they would even add the big three, ltc and doge and btc.  the biggest losses in btc trading that i can see, except outright losses is in moving too small of amounts here and there, trying for the best option
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Yes&nbsp; localbitcoins is the best place to sell and buy your bitcoins.&nbsp; But I will use local exchanger in my country to sell my bitcoins. They will give you exact price what the Google showing and in sometime the price is higher than that. So find any local exchanger otherwise bitcoin wallets is the best and safe place to convert your money to bitcoins.

It seems localbitcoins is a popular choice and I do agree. aside from local bitcoins you can also buy in trading exchanges and there are plenty of it. Also a local wallet is a good way to exchange or convert to btc like in the case of coins.ph .
I too suggest localbitcoins.com as it is one among the licensed service provider globally. Making trade to convert bitcoin bitcoin to fiat using our forum seems good, because you'll gain trust rate depending upon the service provided. Eventually this helps in making a good earning with other services too just because of your trust rate.
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Yes&nbsp; localbitcoins is the best place to sell and buy your bitcoins.&nbsp; But I will use local exchanger in my country to sell my bitcoins. They will give you exact price what the Google showing and in sometime the price is higher than that. So find any local exchanger otherwise bitcoin wallets is the best and safe place to convert your money to bitcoins.

It seems localbitcoins is a popular choice and I do agree. aside from local bitcoins you can also buy in trading exchanges and there are plenty of it. Also a local wallet is a good way to exchange or convert to btc like in the case of coins.ph .
I too suggest localbitcoins.com as it is one among the licensed service provider globally. Making trade to convert bitcoin bitcoin to fiat using our forum seems good, because you'll gain trust rate depending upon the service provided. Eventually this helps in making a good earning with other services too just because of your trust rate.

i have used lbc on and off for a long time and i have heard some sellers talk about reaching their limit, be it monthly or otherwise.  i have no idea what these limits are or how they change.  other sites are clear about limits based on varied kyc verification levels.  their security is pretty good and the escrow seems flawless, but i can warn about this.  i set up 2fa using a local authenticator program and the PC crashed without me backing up the 2fa codes.  support from lbc regarding this is not good, although it may be the government restricting them.  the only option is to request that 3fa be removed from your account, answer some questions and then wait two weeks.  i was torn between that and working on getting the info from the hard drive. i ended up simply creating a new account and lost all my past feedback scores.

if you use 2fa, you can be cut from many accounts with simple things.  your phone number changing, a PC crash, any number of issues can lock you out of important accounts.  back up pc 2fa software files and i now use an internet phone number(google voice) for things like that in case i lose my phone number for some reason
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You can buy bitcoins at localbitcoins.com via cash trade in person or cash deposit.They provide escrows and connect  you with sellers.You can also try wall of coins,a peer to peer bitcoin exchange, where you can receive bitcoins within 15 minutes after you cash deposit. The Mycelium bitcoin wallet for android offers a feature called Local Trader.Using it, you can find sellers in your area and meet them in person to buy bitcoins with cash.
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You can buy bitcoins at localbitcoins.com via cash trade in person or cash deposit.They provide escrows and connect  you with sellers.You can also try wall of coins,a peer to peer bitcoin exchange, where you can receive bitcoins within 15 minutes after you cash deposit. The Mycelium bitcoin wallet for android offers a feature called Local Trader.Using it, you can find sellers in your area and meet them in person to buy bitcoins with cash.

i like that option you just described for the app.  i wanted to code a location system into a bitcoin wallet for various reasons. i have coin.space installed on a windows phone and it can find another user via the app and location. 

i thought a neat thing for BTC with the location built into a mobile wallet would be a scavenger hunt.  something like the pokemon craze, but bitcoin wallet based.  go to a certain location and automatically receive some BTC.  would be nice for pushing customers into local businesses
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January 27, 2017, 03:55:42 AM
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Using an anonymous (semi) service could be used such as Localbitcoins or Paxful, but they usually charge high exchange rates, you could also try the currency exchange part of this forums which showcases a lot of trusted members here.

If you're willing to use your ID to verify and everything you could use Coinbase, Kraken, or any of the big bank style exchanges.


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For me it is more easier for me to use localbitcoins for local currencies. We have a wallet that is connected to remittance center and some bank for cash outs. We can only use it here in our country. It is more easier for us to convert our bitcoins in to local currency, We have many ways how to do it. 
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For me it is more easier for me to use localbitcoins for local currencies. We have a wallet that is connected to remittance center and some bank for cash outs. We can only use it here in our country. It is more easier for us to convert our bitcoins in to local currency, We have many ways how to do it. 

i have not familiar with what you mean by "remittance center", can you give a quick definition?
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For me it is more easier for me to use localbitcoins for local currencies. We have a wallet that is connected to remittance center and some bank for cash outs. We can only use it here in our country. It is more easier for us to convert our bitcoins in to local currency, We have many ways how to do it. 
I do not like localbitcoin because it does not strongly support my country. It is hard to make a trade there and I do not trust anyone in localBitcoin. Therefore, if you know some real traders in your local area, contacting them is more better. I like to buy Bitcoin face to face and it also encourage friendship between me and the seller.

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For me it is more easier for me to use localbitcoins for local currencies. We have a wallet that is connected to remittance center and some bank for cash outs. We can only use it here in our country. It is more easier for us to convert our bitcoins in to local currency, We have many ways how to do it. 

i have not familiar with what you mean by "remittance center", can you give a quick definition?

Remittance center like Western Union. I think he is living in a country where bitcoin is being accepted with those remittance center that he is saying. Here in my country you can just simply convert your fiat into bitcoin by simply visiting a convenience store. If you are guys familiar with 7/11 store, they are using 7-connect for purchasing bitcoins.

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January 28, 2017, 09:45:42 AM
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Easy and anonymous: ATMs. Just bring your money there and buy Bitcoins with it, without having to send any personal information and without having to complete any transactions such as bank wires to get your Bitcoins. I have used them for about 10 times and it is worth it. The only bad thing, which is unnoticeable for small amounts exchanged, is the selling price they offer - the ATM I am going to is offering a +30$ price over Preev's exchange rate. But still worth it even paying $30 for a $920 exchange than putting your personal data anywhere.

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I don't have knowledge how other people use and convert bitcoin into fiat currency or fiat currency to bitcoin because I use a simple and troubleless way of converting.

I have a local trader who used to sell me bitcoin in lowest price and use to buy bitcoin from me at a high rate all over my nation, and what about security? Yea its nothing to mention about the security Becuase he does all the task by himself I just pay once and rest back in my life and my wallet get filled up with money.
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Easy and anonymous: ATMs. Just bring your money there and buy Bitcoins with it, without having to send any personal information and without having to complete any transactions such as bank wires to get your Bitcoins. I have used them for about 10 times and it is worth it. The only bad thing, which is unnoticeable for small amounts exchanged, is the selling price they offer - the ATM I am going to is offering a +30$ price over Preev's exchange rate. But still worth it even paying $30 for a $920 exchange than putting your personal data anywhere.

Exactly, convenience costs money, especially something as convenient as a bitcoin atm.
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Hello guys, do you know any virtual card services that accept fiat from third parties. I need the services which can accept id and ub as verification docs but don't require to confirm  phone number for full verification, maybe you can recommend something? Thank you!
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I don't have knowledge how other people use and convert bitcoin into fiat currency or fiat currency to bitcoin because I use a simple and troubleless way of converting.

I have a local trader who used to sell me bitcoin in lowest price and use to buy bitcoin from me at a high rate all over my nation, and what about security? Yea its nothing to mention about the security Becuase he does all the task by himself I just pay once and rest back in my life and my wallet get filled up with money.
Everyone have their own method to convert BTC to fiat and Fiat to BTC. Now we all have some third party exchanger in all country. In my country we have some exchange in that few people will buy our coins for a high price but the site looks not good and not much recommended. Only one site is good recommended, but they will buy my coins exact price what Google shows. And their selling price is very much high so I will not buy any coins only I will sell my coins.
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I don't have knowledge how other people use and convert bitcoin into fiat currency or fiat currency to bitcoin because I use a simple and troubleless way of converting.

I have a local trader who used to sell me bitcoin in lowest price and use to buy bitcoin from me at a high rate all over my nation, and what about security? Yea its nothing to mention about the security Becuase he does all the task by himself I just pay once and rest back in my life and my wallet get filled up with money.

Im also using a simple way of converting bitcoin into fiat. Whenever i have bitcoin in my wallet, i just simply request for cash out in my preferred mode of payment and I will go in the remittance center and once i claim my cash out, it is automatic in fiat and no need to request for convertion.
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From recently one of the banks in my country is connected with online exchange, now its easier then ever before to buy or sell bitcoins.
With the time bitcoin is more present and accessible, for couple years I expect even more ways and services to show up. Bitcoin is making progress everywhere, its growing into something really big.



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From my local exchange, there are already a lot of options in which you can exchange your bitcoin into cash. You can redeem them at money remittance centers, via online banking or in participating banks’ ATMS. I always choose online fund transfer thru my bank because I can do it anywhere and anytime. Plus it saves me the hassle of going far just to convert my bitcoin to cash.
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You can buy bitcoins at localbitcoins.com via cash trade in person or cash deposit.They provide escrows and connect  you with sellers.You can also try wall of coins,a peer to peer bitcoin exchange, where you can receive bitcoins within 15 minutes after you cash deposit. The Mycelium bitcoin wallet for android offers a feature called Local Trader.Using it, you can find sellers in your area and meet them in person to buy bitcoins with cash.

i like that option you just described for the app.  i wanted to code a location system into a bitcoin wallet for various reasons. i have coin.space installed on a windows phone and it can find another user via the app and location. 

i thought a neat thing for BTC with the location built into a mobile wallet would be a scavenger hunt.  something like the pokemon craze, but bitcoin wallet based.  go to a certain location and automatically receive some BTC.  would be nice for pushing customers into local businesses

Thank you for giving details about mycelium bitcoin app of locating bitcoin users nearby locally, because i use to go to localbitcoin and search the buyer and sell my bitcoins and i was thinking of this type of app and now i got it. It is very usefull if any time we are stuck in need of money then this app will surely help us if any of the local bitcoiner is nearby to help it.
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For me it is more easier for me to use localbitcoins for local currencies. We have a wallet that is connected to remittance center and some bank for cash outs. We can only use it here in our country. It is more easier for us to convert our bitcoins in to local currency, We have many ways how to do it. 

i have not familiar with what you mean by "remittance center", can you give a quick definition?
I think what he meant by using the local exchange. he can withdraw the money directly to local banks without the need to enter complicated as swift code or the like.
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
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From recently one of the banks in my country is connected with online exchange, now its easier then ever before to buy or sell bitcoins.
With the time bitcoin is more present and accessible, for couple years I expect even more ways and services to show up. Bitcoin is making progress everywhere, its growing into something really big.
That is good. I live in a country which Bitcoin is not very popular and I do not like how the people think about Bitcoin. Usually, I have to contact to a seller which is far from my house in order to convert my Bitcoin into FIAT. I hope that in the future there will be more ways to use Bitcoin in my country without converting it into cash

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February 10, 2017, 09:49:41 AM
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i suggest you to try cryptopay. you can buy bitcoin from there. beware from scammers there's a lots of scam stores who can stole your money. there's another website name Localbitcoin its a great site to exchange money into bitcoins good luck  
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February 10, 2017, 09:55:51 AM
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For me it is more easier for me to use localbitcoins for local currencies. We have a wallet that is connected to remittance center and some bank for cash outs. We can only use it here in our country. It is more easier for us to convert our bitcoins in to local currency, We have many ways how to do it.&nbsp;

i have not familiar with what you mean by "remittance center", can you give a quick definition?
I think what he meant by using the local exchange. he can withdraw the money directly to local banks without the need to enter complicated as swift code or the like.
Local exchange helps bitcoin to be converted and easily deposited on bank accounts. Several trading and bitcoin exchanges have been making the conversion from bitcoin to money and vice versa. There are traders who can be met in person and conversion can be done.

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February 10, 2017, 10:00:24 AM
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I cant suggest you better way then i use because, I have contact with big trader of india who helps me to convert real money into bitcoin and bitcon into real money. its just hazzel free task for me to convert bitcoin and fait. he is just a god for me. his honesty makes me become fan and support him. Thanks trader Alpesh
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i suggest you to try cryptopay. you can buy bitcoin from there. beware from scammers there's a lots of scam stores who can stole your money. there's another website name Localbitcoin its a great site to exchange money into bitcoins good luck  
Well good thing here in our country we dont experience any problem converting our money into cash because our local wallet has many features where you can cash out your money directly to your banks or preferred remittance to receive your money. it has also no charge so its very convenient.

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i suggest you to try cryptopay. you can buy bitcoin from there. beware from scammers there's a lots of scam stores who can stole your money. there's another website name Localbitcoin its a great site to exchange money into bitcoins good luck  

I'd rather go to a local ATM and buy some BTC instead, it's fast, easy and safe. You protect your identity too.. I luckily have one just one minute walk from my home which is great! The only thing I don't like is that they offer BTC for $30 over the price.
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Everyone have their own method to convert BTC to fiat and Fiat to BTC. Now we all have some third party exchanger in all country. In my country we have some exchange in that few people will buy our coins for a high price but the site looks not good and not much recommended. Only one site is good recommended, but they will buy my coins exact price what Google shows. And their selling price is very much high so I will not buy any coins only I will sell my coins.
Many people are not really the type who buys bitcoin from the local exchangers, I mean the people on this forum only want to sell it, I know that the best way to buy bitcoin is through localbitcoin which is a site that allows people to sell and buy bitcoin with extreme security, I tried selling my coins there and they offer a good price.

My easiest way must be using bitcoin debit cards but I am not using it frequently as I am having my day job to support my living. My bitcoin earnings are just for saving.
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There's a website called payplux or you can visit payplux.com and have them exchange your bitcoins to my local fiat or vice Versa, you can as well try crypto pay or local bitcoins; you should be fine with any of the above.
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i suggest you to try cryptopay. you can buy bitcoin from there. beware from scammers there's a lots of scam stores who can stole your money. there's another website name Localbitcoin its a great site to exchange money into bitcoins good luck  

I'd rather go to a local ATM and buy some BTC instead, it's fast, easy and safe. You protect your identity too.. I luckily have one just one minute walk from my home which is great! The only thing I don't like is that they offer BTC for $30 over the price.

That is 3% if I'm not wrong, its not so big fee. In my city there are only 2 ATM's, fee is somewhere around 8%, which is much higher. But in my country bitcoin is not much appreciated yet, so in the future when there will be more competition, I expect to them to lower their fee's.
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Though many countries are accepting bitcoin and I heard also that many banks are helping to exchange bitcoin to fiat.But in my country bitcoin is unknown to most of the people, so converting bitcoin to Fiat is not easy for me.I have to contact with some trusted guy on FB who give me FIAT for bitcoin.It's not safe for me because they can do scam anytime, but I cannot but trust them.
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February 10, 2017, 02:09:48 PM
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For me it is more easier for me to use localbitcoins for local currencies. We have a wallet that is connected to remittance center and some bank for cash outs. We can only use it here in our country. It is more easier for us to convert our bitcoins in to local currency, We have many ways how to do it. 

i have not familiar with what you mean by "remittance center", can you give a quick definition?
I think what he meant by using the local exchange. he can withdraw the money directly to local banks without the need to enter complicated as swift code or the like.
If you are talking about the exchanges that are available on country base then yes you are right withdrawal from that is much easier but if you are talking about local bitcoin exchange then it is not the same easier as local exchanges in some countries. The most better is the way when exchange with your friends locally.
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February 10, 2017, 02:14:55 PM
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Though many countries are accepting bitcoin and I heard also that many banks are helping to exchange bitcoin to fiat.But in my country bitcoin is unknown to most of the people, so converting bitcoin to Fiat is not easy for me.I have to contact with some trusted guy on FB who give me FIAT for bitcoin.It's not safe for me because they can do scam anytime, but I cannot but trust them.

In the case there are no banks vs exchanges localbitcoins is the only hassle free solution. Trading with third parties on fb, tw etc. can be risky.
Same applies for localbitcoins but at least there are reviews and history of a buyer/seller.

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i suggest you to try cryptopay. you can buy bitcoin from there. beware from scammers there's a lots of scam stores who can stole your money. there's another website name Localbitcoin its a great site to exchange money into bitcoins good luck  
I think it would be better to buy or sell bitcoin on the exchange. be careful with third parties, even if they give discounts or higher prices or cheaper.
but the third party is very risky. could be a scam
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
You have Only Two Ways By Which you can Convert your Money into Bitcoins that are as Follows:-
1) You can Convert your Money into Bitcoins Directly By Just Purchasing it From Localbitcoins.com website.....
2) Or You Can Find a Bitcoin Trader in your Area then you can Exchange your Money into Bitcoins through the Exchanger......

Yes, I almost agree with this opinion, and perhaps trust with whom we conduct transactions still have to watch out to avoid things that are not desirable, unless the place we were already available place to facilitate it then it would be able to allow us to do the transaction and I was very lucky because I could do it all with ease.
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
You have Only Two Ways By Which you can Convert your Money into Bitcoins that are as Follows:-
1) You can Convert your Money into Bitcoins Directly By Just Purchasing it From Localbitcoins.com website.....
2) Or You Can Find a Bitcoin Trader in your Area then you can Exchange your Money into Bitcoins through the Exchanger......
The later part you mentioned " localbitcoins" has made my life easy man and I have been buying and selling bitcoins since many months now. I prefer to directly pay via bank but guys really if you haven't tried LBC yet you should try it now.
Other than that I suggest you to upload money to paypal and buy btc from services like : wesellbitcoins and others.
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You can convert your bitcoin into fiat by exchanging it on different trading sites then sending it to your another fiat online account where you can withdraw your money. You can also try localbitcoins.com because that site is one of the easiest way to convert or sell your coins but always be careful in doing transactions.
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Well, first he must have a bitcoin wallet, for him to receive his bitcoin if he will convert his money to bitcoin, and the one that will going to help him with that is you. Since he is your friend and you want your transaction to be fast, then tell him that you are going to sell your bitcoin to him, so that he can convert his money to bitcoin, simple as that.


Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

It is because not all the payment processors accepts bitcoin, like for example, there are just some banks that is accepting bitcoin for the supported transactions that they have, like here in country(Philippines), one of the bank account here in the Philippines is accepting bitcoin, here is the article

http://­www.newsbtc.com/2017/­02/08/­philippines-bangko-se­ntral-recognizes-bit­coin-payment-system/
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Easiest way to convert fiat money into Bitcoin or vise-versa for me is local exchange where I always am able to do any transaction online in matter of minutes. Earlier I was buying using different platforms outside of my country. It has been much more flexible and reliable way now doing everything locally.


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For me the easiest way to turn my cash into btc is to use an atm half an hour away from my house. There"s no faster way for me, if I send my fiat from my bank account to bitstamp for example, i"ll have to wait a couple of days.... ATM definitely the fastest way for me. But there"s only one problem, ATM fee is 8,9 percent  Roll Eyes
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i suggest you to try cryptopay. you can buy bitcoin from there. beware from scammers there's a lots of scam stores who can stole your money. there's another website name Localbitcoin its a great site to exchange money into bitcoins good luck  

I'd rather go to a local ATM and buy some BTC instead, it's fast, easy and safe. You protect your identity too.. I luckily have one just one minute walk from my home which is great! The only thing I don't like is that they offer BTC for $30 over the price.
I get very fascinated and excited when I hear bitcoins ATMs but I wonder how they work how exactly they pay and really can you suggest me where in India we can find such ATM ? I will surely visit that whenever possible and see how things work.
By the way can we sell bitcoins too to the ATM ? sounds odd but I thought maybe its better to ask Smiley
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For me the easiest way to turn my cash into btc is to use an atm half an hour away from my house. There" no faster way for me, if I send my fiat from my bank account to bitstamp for example, i"ll have to wait a couple of days.... ATM definitely the fastest way for me. But there"s only one problem, ATM fee is 8,9 percent  Roll Eyes
each person has a different way to exchange money they have become bitcoin. maybe some people will take advantage of the site exchangers reliable, but mostly again make the switch to someone immediately to maintain security

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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

As for me the easiest way  for me to convert my fiat to bitcoin is to buy bitcoins in an online exchange service , Here in the Philippines we have an online financial service that allowed us to buy bitcoin conveniently , we use coins.ph to buy bitcoins in the most convenient way we are comfortable with , when you are here in the Philippines I will totally recommend you coins.ph
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For me the easiest way to turn my cash into btc is to use an atm half an hour away from my house. There" no faster way for me, if I send my fiat from my bank account to bitstamp for example, i"ll have to wait a couple of days.... ATM definitely the fastest way for me. But there"s only one problem, ATM fee is 8,9 percent  Roll Eyes
each person has a different way to exchange money they have become bitcoin. maybe some people will take advantage of the site exchangers reliable, but mostly again make the switch to someone immediately to maintain security
Anything related with an online transaction is fast. And we all know in order to transact the conversion of Bitcoin is online, it depends on the person converting the Bitcoin. Some people use bank transfers like you, some they go to convenience stores who buys Bitcoin, and some even by from another users all of which are considered fast. I depends on how the buyer wants to buy the Bitcoin.
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

As for me the easiest way  for me to convert my fiat to bitcoin is to buy bitcoins in an online exchange service , Here in the Philippines we have an online financial service that allowed us to buy bitcoin conveniently , we use coins.ph to buy bitcoins in the most convenient way we are comfortable with , when you are here in the Philippines I will totally recommend you coins.ph
that is a great news. You are so lucky since the people in your country support Bitcoin. even though my country is the same as yours, i still find that it is difficult to use the bank system in krder to transfer money to buy Bitcoin. Therefore, I prefer buy Bitcoinfrom my friends since they know how to get bitcoin fast and in the most convenient ways
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The best way is localbitcoin of course.. there are plenty ways to exchange money for btc there, and even you can use almost every bank and exchange back to fiat if you need.
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February 11, 2017, 06:59:26 AM
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Try http://coinbase.com It's currently the easiest way to convert Bitcoins to cash and vice versa. They also have partnered with PayPal so I can sell Bitcoins for PayPal balance. I find it very useful as I often use PayPal to shop computer parts online.

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The best way is localbitcoin of course.. there are plenty ways to exchange money for btc there, and even you can use almost every bank and exchange back to fiat if you need.

Well, localbitcoin could be an alternative place to redeem our bitcoin to fiat. Because we can look for purchasers who come from the same country as us. If not wrong, I once read that there are two people who transact bitcoin directly because derived from the same country, as they met in localbitcoin. Thank you
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I cant suggest you better way then i use because, I have contact with big trader of india who helps me to convert real money into bitcoin and bitcon into real money. its just hazzel free task for me to convert bitcoin and fait. he is just a god for me. his honesty makes me become fan and support him. Thanks trader Alpesh
Actually he is not doing any big favor to you my friend because even if you don't sell him you can still get skrill/moneybookers from bitcoins directly in moments and just at 3% fees. And skrill as we all know can be converted to real money via legal ways too. Anyways hope it helps you guys.

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February 11, 2017, 09:33:02 AM
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One can directly purchase bitcoin from the other bitcoin holder and to make the transaction easier, there are exchanges (such as localbitcoins). Now, when any financial company or bank does not want them to get in the mess of cryptocurrency (Let’s admit it that bitcoin is still new and some people are skeptical about cryptocurrencies as a whole), they put the restrictions on their users to stay refrain from dealing with it using their service, that’s it. The easiest way is to find those services which support such trading (like Unocoin or Zebpay in India).
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Try localbitcoins. Do a cash->cash trade, because you should never EVER publish your personal details or even a picture of any identification inline. You don't know for sure how secure the storage is. Remember, anything can be hacked.

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Try localbitcoins. Do a cash->cash trade, because you should never EVER publish your personal details or even a picture of any identification inline. You don't know for sure how secure the storage is. Remember, anything can be hacked.

the most people is use localbitcoin and localbitcoin is a good site with many of recommended seller that we can found and we can make transaction with safe. only make transaction with the seller that you know before and if the seller is new for you, then you can try to withdraw small amount to see how good the seller is then you can continue with medium amount and after that big amount.



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For me, the easiest way to buy btc is using credit cards. That's why I mostly use CEX.IO, one of the top sites that accepts cards. I mean, not the prepaid cards that some websites are trying to sell you, but ordinary visas and mastercards.
LocalBitcoins are ok, but the exchange rate is nuts.

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What do you guys think about Paxful? I've been hearing a lot about them lately.

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February 14, 2017, 06:01:47 AM
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What do you guys think about Paxful? I've been hearing a lot about them lately.

paxful and lbc compare in one important way.  lbc requires a $400~ vendor deposit to start initiating vendor trades of most types.  .  that is in addition to the funds going from your wallet into escrow. paxful only requires the escrow to be covered.  that means that nearly anyone with $5-10 worth of FIAT or bitcoin can start acting as a vendor on paxful.
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I think by this time there are already some exchange sites that exchanged bitcoins to real money at current price of bitcoins,I believe already that there are many sites online that converts bitcoins to cash.Or you would go find an bitcoin atm in your country to withdraw it fast.Or you can exchange bitcoins to merchants and people that is buying bitcoins using their cash but i mostly see people buying bitcoins at lesser price than its actual price.
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February 14, 2017, 11:09:22 AM
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best way in my country is to just install legit exchange app or website is also enough. We have zeppay that takes our bitcoin pays us with real money throgh bank transfer and also we can but bitcoin in that website and we indian are really lucky for many things. BUti have contact with local trader who takes my bitcoin and pays me in paytm wallet or bank transferr is easy as water.
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The best way is localbitcoin of course.. there are plenty ways to exchange money for btc there, and even you can use almost every bank and exchange back to fiat if you need.

Well, localbitcoin could be an alternative place to redeem our bitcoin to fiat. Because we can look for purchasers who come from the same country as us. If not wrong, I once read that there are two people who transact bitcoin directly because derived from the same country, as they met in localbitcoin. Thank you
I have not used local bitcoin, is it we can draw bitcoin directly to a local bank? I usually use the local exchange to withdraw my money. because it is easier and simpler to attract money into local banks
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In my country its really easy to convert my bitcoin to our local fiat since we have our own local bitcoin wallet provider on which you could easily convert your bitcoin in just a matter of clicks its either you will choose to be directly put in your bank but expected they are getting fees which you cant expect exact amounts on converting.

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February 14, 2017, 02:44:52 PM
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Actually people from third world country don't have opportunity to buy bitcoin easily from any of the bitcoin trading platform like coinbase. Coinbase still don't support many developing countries also in localbitcoins usually deals for this countries are really expensive to buy from using local bank transfer.

However in european countries and china anyone can buy bitcoin or sell it quickly for profit or just buy and hold for long term with peace in mind. This have created a sense of "bitcoin is actually only made for developed countries, Tier-1 countries".  Angry

Have you tried other online methods? I've used Reddit to buy bitcoins directly at 90% price, which is better than anything that I can find for Paypal on localbitcoin or coinbase. You can also buy an Amazon giftcard from a third party source with bitcoin and sell that for bitcoin.
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Well in Serbia, it's pretty easy. There's an online exchange office for buying and selling bitcoin with the fee of 7% if you're an unregistered member and 6% for registered and they're payout out fast since it's automatic. Tho, if they weren't there I'd probably be exchanging here on the forum.

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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.

i see coinbase do well. if coinbase support your country, u can direct buy n sell just note that u need to verify your coinbase v your id.

local exchange will be well if u can reach them. as i see more and more exchanger come in.

also in some country they develope bitcoin atm machine. the fee is higher but anytime u can go exchange.



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https://www.bitquick.co/ for selling
https://www.coinmama.com/ for buying

I actually saw bitquick and thought it must be a scam because of how easy they claimed the process was. You can sell your coins for market value the same day, and get your money same day. No photo verification, no waiting around, instant and low fee. Buying however is a bit more of a hassle, but that's why I'd recommend coinmama for buying. Again, no verification, no waiting around, buy bitcoin instantly. It will cost you a tad bit more however, but their service is still worth it imo.
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I've found out the best way is to make a friend from localbitcoins that is willing to meet in real life and has always a good supply of cash. That is the way to guarantee that you stay anonymous and dont need to share details. Of course it's annoying having to meet with someone everytime you want to get some damn cash and I hate that but what other options are there anyway?
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I've found out the best way is to make a friend from localbitcoins that is willing to meet in real life and has always a good supply of cash. That is the way to guarantee that you stay anonymous and dont need to share details. Of course it's annoying having to meet with someone everytime you want to get some damn cash and I hate that but what other options are there anyway?

Agree. When I try to deal on localbitcoins, there are many buyers who give the good exchange rates but unfortunately most of them ask for verified status (which is breach of anonymity, but still they are right at their place) so I usually have to deal with those who have not restricted trades for verified accounts but usually they don’t offer best rates. Now since I am not involved in criminal or illegal activities, I have no issues in verifying my LBTC account but again their automated verification system rejects my documents.
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Localbitcoins could be easiest and the best solution for me. There you can find local seller from your country and make smooth and quick deal. Maybe it could be a little bit more expensive but you will not have many troubles. You can even find someone there for selling face to face.

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 :)Although I don't have much experience with it the most convenient way would seem to be using localbitcoins. You have cash, they have bitcoin, you meet and exchange. Simple. Easiest way if your money is in a bank? Using an online exchange.
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Here in Philippines are very easy to convert money in bitcoin using online banking, remittances, and also seven eleven those are very easy to add bitcoin. In a minutes you get bitcoin through those one. And through local bitcoin wallet i get bitcoin so easily.
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It is weird that you have a problem with this, I assert that it is a very easy thing, any of us can do it in just a few minutes. There are lots of places for you to convert your money into bitcoin and vice versa, it's an easy job, you just need to do some work and BTC will be yours. Right here in my hometown, where little bitcoin is known, there are so many websites that I can do it, everything is so convenient, I'm curious, where do you live? Is that a country where no one knows bitcoin. And bitcoin is a luxury thing.
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 :)I use localbitcoins, pretty simple and straight forward
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Personally, I have no big problem on this concern since I can easily convert my money (assuming I got one) into Bitcoin and my Bitcoin into the local money I am using. Unfortunately, there are still places on this Earth where people even do not know anything about Bitcoin lest holding one. But hope will slowly change for the better in the coming years.
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Personally, I have no big problem on this concern since I can easily convert my money (assuming I got one) into Bitcoin and my Bitcoin into the local money I am using. Unfortunately, there are still places on this Earth where people even do not know anything about Bitcoin lest holding one. But hope will slowly change for the better in the coming years.
There are many ways you can convert money into Bitcoin, but it depends on how much money you have and how much you are willing to invest in bitcoin, if you are looking  to spend like thousand dollar on it you can always buy it from online wallets, but if you only have couple hundred dollars you can buy from peer to peer exchange sites like local bitcoin, whereyou can buy and sell bitcoin depending on your location and the method of payment that you want.
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Personally, I have no big problem on this concern since I can easily convert my money (assuming I got one) into Bitcoin and my Bitcoin into the local money I am using. Unfortunately, there are still places on this Earth where people even do not know anything about Bitcoin lest holding one. But hope will slowly change for the better in the coming years.

Things will change in future for sure when more people will be aware about bitcoins and at a moment if I have convert my money into bitcoins then I do it very smoothly from localbitcoins as that is the safest place I see to buy and sell bitcoins.


 
 
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March 30, 2017, 09:34:27 AM
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?

Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?

I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
If I am going to base it in my situation here, that would not be a problem for me because in my country we have merchant here who accept bitcoin in different transaction like, shopping online, travel tour local or international, money transfer through remittances outlet nationwide or transferring money through bank account. So whether Bitcoin form bank account or bank account to bitcoin is very easy to use it here. But I don't know in the other country.
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Actually people from third world country don't have opportunity to buy bitcoin easily from any of the bitcoin trading platform like coinbase. Coinbase still don't support many developing countries also in localbitcoins usually deals for this countries are really expensive to buy from using local bank transfer.

However in european countries and china anyone can buy bitcoin or sell it quickly for profit or just buy and hold for long term with peace in mind. This have created a sense of "bitcoin is actually only made for developed countries, Tier-1 countries".  Angry

Have you tried other online methods? I've used Reddit to buy bitcoins directly at 90% price, which is better than anything that I can find for Paypal on localbitcoin or coinbase. You can also buy an Amazon giftcard from a third party source with bitcoin and sell that for bitcoin.
The local communities themselves actually could just make some services to simplify the way of their locals buying and selling bitcoin. But, if there's none until now, why don't you take this opportunity? you can get pretty decent profit from the fees itself and you may have potential of building your own bitcoin company, just my 2 cents but, it could also solve the problem which is currently make bitcoiners in your country struggling.

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You could convert fiat to Bitcoin on a Bitcoin ATM if you have one in your city, they are pretty much everywhere right now. They also follow the value accurately,so you do not have to worry about losing money while converting. If that does not work you could find someone with btc and exchange.

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You could convert fiat to Bitcoin on a Bitcoin ATM if you have one in your city, they are pretty much everywhere right now. They also follow the value accurately,so you do not have to worry about losing money while converting. If that does not work you could find someone with btc and exchange.
Yes i agree with you, But the problem there is a lot of countries that they haven't Bitcoin ATM. So they obligated to exchange there fiat to get bitcoin, Whether online or offline (I mean in the real world).

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Bitcoin is the easiet way to use some money for transactions. I recommend you to convert money to Bitcoin by using legal transactions such as going to stores or other establishment that convert money to bitcoin. I suggest the stores that are well known and trusted to avoid scamming and loosing a lot of money.
Yes that is the best way to convert fiat or money to bitcoin. Im my country we used an application based wallet where you can do transaction on bitcoin. In here you can convert your money to bitcoin through the store where you can buy specific amount of money and you will recieved it to your wallet address. And if you are going to used your bitcoin there is no need on other wallet because in coin.ph you can also do such things like buying load or paying bills. In every transaction you will do there is a 5% rebate so you can earn while you used bitcoin om transaction. It is fast easy and reliable.
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Bitcoin is the easiet way to use some money for transactions. I recommend you to convert money to Bitcoin by using legal transactions such as going to stores or other establishment that convert money to bitcoin. I suggest the stores that are well known and trusted to avoid scamming and loosing a lot of money.
Yes that is the best way to convert fiat or money to bitcoin. Im my country we used an application based wallet where you can do transaction on bitcoin. In here you can convert your money to bitcoin through the store where you can buy specific amount of money and you will recieved it to your wallet address. And if you are going to used your bitcoin there is no need on other wallet because in coin.ph you can also do such things like buying load or paying bills. In every transaction you will do there is a 5% rebate so you can earn while you used bitcoin om transaction. It is fast easy and reliable.
You two know very little about bitcoin don't you?
Can you please tell us what stores and establishments you can go to that will let you convert fiat to bicoin? Has localbitcoins set up shops i don't know about, lol.

Online wallets are also a bad idea to store any bitcoins you may have, remember that if you don't control the private keys you don't control the bitcoins.

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I think this time making money become bitcoin is no longer a very difficult thing. currently very much exchangers reliable as localbitcoin, even today, very many people trusted in facebook, which opened currency exchange services to bitcoin, and bitcoin to cash. Well, all of them will you find if you look for it.

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March 31, 2017, 09:31:20 AM
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I think this time making money become bitcoin is no longer a very difficult thing. currently very much exchangers reliable as localbitcoin, even today, very many people trusted in facebook, which opened currency exchange services to bitcoin, and bitcoin to cash. Well, all of them will you find if you look for it.
Transferring fiat to bitcoin can one good use for an online wallet, once verified it's easy and takes little time.

If you value you privacy a little more then some bitcoin atm's can be a good choice but you will pay a premium for the annoumouse service.
Localbitcoins is another option but again with big markups, often higher than the atm's.

You can always find good rates here, as long as you use a good escrow you won't should be right.

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coinizy is trustable? anybody try coinizy ?



Maybe you could try coinizy it is a virtual credit card you can get for cheap, they have a thread in the forum in the digital goods section and you can receive a vouch for a free vcc if you qualify maybe you can try it and see if you like it.
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I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
Actually legal restrictions in many country have limited many payment processors and bank to have this feature.

Bitcoin is anonymous and government will try to just ignore it and even if they have to accept it as new way to do financial transactions they try to regulate trading platform and services that buy/sell bitcoin.

Foreign currency rules and money laundering is big hurdle bitcoin exchange/trading platform have to tackle to allow anyone to purchase bitcoin easily and conveniently.
Legality in some countries is one of the problems on converting bitcoin. But for me for the better used of bitcoin one should find a suitable wallet for them. Here in my country we have an application wallet called coin.ph where you can monitor the price of bitcoib and convert fiat on bitcoin. Then you could also used bitcoin on other way like buyying load,paying bills and of course converting bitcoin for other transactions.
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I think this time making money become bitcoin is no longer a very difficult thing. currently very much exchangers reliable as localbitcoin, even today, very many people trusted in facebook, which opened currency exchange services to bitcoin, and bitcoin to cash. Well, all of them will you find if you look for it.
I totally agree with you Bitcoin in exchange for Fiat Currency is now easy to achieve. The most easiest and convenient way I know is through Bitcoin Wallet app. Right now there are several wallet apps that offer a variety of ways on how you can convert Bitcoin to Fiat Currency from Bank Deposits to Cash ATM pick-ups they can do it for you. Also some options are free of charge. My advise for you is to get a Bitcoin Wallet provider in which buying and selling Bitcoin will give you a lot of options to choose from, I can't give you exactly a specific Bitcoin Wallet app provider because it varies from different countries.
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I think a nice way to convert dollars to bitcoin would be to buy something for dollars that you know you could sell for a premium in bitcoin and then immediately resell it online. That would help the bitcoin economy in multiple ways while potentially earning you a profit instead of costing you fees. Smiley
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I think this time making money become bitcoin is no longer a very difficult thing. currently very much exchangers reliable as localbitcoin, even today, very many people trusted in facebook, which opened currency exchange services to bitcoin, and bitcoin to cash. Well, all of them will you find if you look for it.


Many options are available online which converts your fiat into bitcoins but most of them are limited to certain countries and most of them require to submit individual verification. I found localbitcoins to be easiest and best to convert money into bitcoins.
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I don't know if anyone purchases Bitcoin with Cex.io anymore, they used to be pretty good until someone on this forum stated something like Cex.io didn't really care for Bitcoin anymore and they removed Bitcoin logo's on there website or something like that.
It's been a while since I've used them so I am not sure if they are legit. If you need to get Bitcoin ASAP then I would recommend that you use a popular Bitcoin Exchange or find someone offline that has Bitcoin and purchase some from them.


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I don't know if anyone purchases Bitcoin with Cex.io anymore, they used to be pretty good until someone on this forum stated something like Cex.io didn't really care for Bitcoin anymore and they removed Bitcoin logo's on there website or something like that.
It's been a while since I've used them so I am not sure if they are legit. If you need to get Bitcoin ASAP then I would recommend that you use a popular Bitcoin Exchange or find someone offline that has Bitcoin and purchase some from them.

I used cex.io a week.back and it seemed like better than ever.
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I convert my money into bitcoin in a local bitcoin wallet i ordered in a bank or in 7/11 for cashing in to my bitcoin wallet. Its easy to purchase bitcoin and very cheap fee and much safer than purchasing online.
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I think this time making money become bitcoin is no longer a very difficult thing. currently very much exchangers reliable as localbitcoin, even today, very many people trusted in facebook, which opened currency exchange services to bitcoin, and bitcoin to cash. Well, all of them will you find if you look for it.
Yeah i think you do not need confusion to buy or sell bitcoin. You can buy bitcoin easily on a third party or exchange. It's been so easy

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I think the easiest way is to just teach your client how to make an online waplet for BTC
Then you've make a transaction teach him then to convert it to a fiat currency, i believe this online wallet provider you can easily convert BTC into cash.

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April 25, 2017, 02:11:31 AM
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I convert my money into bitcoin in a local bitcoin wallet i ordered in a bank or in 7/11 for cashing in to my bitcoin wallet. Its easy to purchase bitcoin and very cheap fee and much safer than purchasing online.
There are now many ways in which we can buy bitcoin and even convenience stores have added this to their services. For me, I still prefer buying with my exchange and I can easily and quickly convert fiat to bitcoin and vice versa. It only takes a while for such transactions which are also pretty hassle-free.
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April 25, 2017, 03:35:50 AM
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I convert my money into bitcoin in a local bitcoin wallet i ordered in a bank or in 7/11 for cashing in to my bitcoin wallet. Its easy to purchase bitcoin and very cheap fee and much safer than purchasing online.
Me too i used local bitcoin wallet coins.ph i used 7/11 too to do that because that store is near here in our village. And that is the only way i know where to convert money to bitcoin.
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April 25, 2017, 03:48:22 AM
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For now i dont think it could happen. We are still relying on what the government offers. That include banks which are the only way for now to make that kind of transactions.

It is not that easy to change that. Regarding my partner turning her funds into bitcoin. I dont do that. She could change it if she wants to but do it at her own choice.

Banks will keep on interfering with the transaction. Of course they would want something out of it.
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April 25, 2017, 10:58:49 PM
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I think this time making money become bitcoin is no longer a very difficult thing. currently very much exchangers reliable as localbitcoin, even today, very many people trusted in facebook, which opened currency exchange services to bitcoin, and bitcoin to cash. Well, all of them will you find if you look for it.
Yeah if you do not really believe in buying in personal people, you can buy bitcoin in exchange. But of course you will be charged a little fee when buying and deposit
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April 25, 2017, 11:44:16 PM
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I think this time making money become bitcoin is no longer a very difficult thing. currently very much exchangers reliable as localbitcoin, even today, very many people trusted in facebook, which opened currency exchange services to bitcoin, and bitcoin to cash. Well, all of them will you find if you look for it.
Yeah if you do not really believe in buying in personal people, you can buy bitcoin in exchange. But of course you will be charged a little fee when buying and deposit

i think that buying in personal also will be charged with some fee just like in exchange company, but buying or selling in personal will be covenient and more fast.

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April 25, 2017, 11:50:25 PM
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Well here in my country we can buy here bitcoin instantly and you can receive it in bitcoin fast.. you dont need to go far like in local bitcoin..
Is it just like coinbase but we are not using banks just to deposit.. If you know coinbase you can exchange or convert your money fast there..

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April 26, 2017, 12:14:10 AM
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Yeah if you do not really believe in buying in personal people, you can buy bitcoin in exchange. But of course you will be charged a little fee when buying and deposit

i think that buying in personal also will be charged with some fee just like in exchange company, but buying or selling in personal will be covenient and more fast.

No dude, if we do buy from personal I think we will not be charged if we both have the same needs. In contrast to us buy from personal who do provide exchange services of course we will be charged. I know because my friend ever exchange bitcoin with fiat, at a certain rate and without deducting fee.Thank you
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April 26, 2017, 01:57:43 AM
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I live in a country which Bitcoin is not very popular and I do not like how the people think about Bitcoin. Usually, I have to contact to a seller which is far from my house in order to convert my Bitcoin into FIAT. I hope that in the future there will be more ways to use Bitcoin in my country without converting it into cash. Local exchange helps bitcoin to be converted and easily deposited on bank accounts. Several trading and bitcoin exchanges have been making the conversion from bitcoin to money
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April 26, 2017, 02:50:42 AM
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The fees are really too high and that's already a good savings to my bank account but here in my country there is no bitcoin ATM at the moment. localbitcoins and coinbase for buying bitcoins. Although most of them are good enough but the fees are really killing me.
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April 26, 2017, 12:55:59 PM
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Bitcoin is anonymous, and with any conversion the government will ignore it.
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April 26, 2017, 02:57:26 PM
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Bitcoin is anonymous, and with any conversion the government will ignore it.

The government does not ignore it, they leave it free because it does not pose any danger to their country. In addition, some countries see the benefits of it, so they accept it as a real currency and manage it in law.

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Bitcoin is anonymous, and with any conversion the government will ignore it.

The government does not ignore it, they leave it free because it does not pose any danger to their country. In addition, some countries see the benefits of it, so they accept it as a real currency and manage it in law.

It is just now that countries are allowing their citizens use bitcoins as one of the methods of getting paid. I think this is a great time for bitcoins as it really addresses some problems countries are facing. This allows the foreigners to buy from the country without even exchanging their own currency for the local one, which really improves tourism and international trade.
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April 26, 2017, 03:19:44 PM
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The easiest way that can be use to convert money into BTC is using the coins.ph in coins.ph wou can deposit your money and can be converted into BTC,you can also convert your BTC into money and withdraw it into cash using coins.ph. Other thing is that you can traNsfer your BTC from coins.ph to blackchains or onto other wallets that you want.
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April 26, 2017, 03:33:41 PM
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In my country there is an easiest way to convert money into btc as well into fiat currency. This a wallet were I can easily access anywhere here in my country. As long I have an internet access, I can convert into btc and into fiat in an instant way. Also with cashout to bank, remittance is a fast transactions.
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April 26, 2017, 03:35:16 PM
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Just buy a bitcoin that ways you already converted your money into bitcoin but you can also use bitcoin atm if there are available you can search for location in google maps or cash-in in a bitcoin wallet and then convert it into bitcoin using there exchange rate in the bitcoin wallet it's the most easy way to convert i guess.
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April 26, 2017, 03:38:01 PM
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In my country there is an easiest way to convert money into btc as well into fiat currency. This a wallet were I can easily access anywhere here in my country. As long I have an internet access, I can convert into btc and into fiat in an instant way. Also with cashout to bank, remittance is a fast transactions.

Like in 7-11 mart which lot of countries have this establishment,they were accepting bitcoin to transfer into your wallet,you'll pay in that mart or just like buying load then it transfer to your wallet. They have also a machine like system to encode our scan your wallet address ,it is easy and convenient to do.

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April 26, 2017, 07:34:46 PM
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I am doing it very easily on localbitcons as whenever I have excess money I prefer to put my real money into bitcoins and whenever I am looking to buy bitcoins localbitcoins is the best place to do as there is no chance that anyone can scam you and run away with your money.
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April 26, 2017, 09:15:50 PM
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If you have money then you can buy them through different exchange sites and if not then better to find different ways to earn them where you don't have to put your real capital in investing in it.
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April 26, 2017, 10:01:56 PM
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Depends on what you mean by easy. It is not so difficult to buy through exchanges, but this is not the only alternative. You could use localbitcoin, for example.
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April 26, 2017, 10:14:31 PM
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Depends on what you mean by easy. It is not so difficult to buy through exchanges, but this is not the only alternative. You could use localbitcoin, for example.

The OP is no even clear enough, if you want to convert money into whatever including Bitcoin I think the logical way is to purchase that thing with the money and that will be it. I don't see the need to ask that question seriously but if you're looking for where to buy them (Bitcoin) from with your fiat then it should be from the exchanges or localbitcoins where you can meet a potential seller in person and transact business.
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April 27, 2017, 02:58:50 PM
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I think this time making money become bitcoin is no longer a very difficult thing. currently very much exchangers reliable as localbitcoin, even today, very many people trusted in facebook, which opened currency exchange services to bitcoin, and bitcoin to cash. Well, all of them will you find if you look for it.
I think there is now a lot of reliable exchange. You do not need to be confused to buy bitcoin you can buy bitcoin in exchange very easily. Especially now that there are many local exchanges
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April 27, 2017, 03:15:04 PM
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I think Bitcoin would be the easiest way to use for the purpose of the transaction if all countries allow it as a valid transaction tool. so it is recommended that convert money into Bitcoin by using a legal procedure such as going to deposit or other activities.though it is not easy in current time to do but hopefully, in future, we will be able to do a transaction without hassle.
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April 27, 2017, 03:18:29 PM
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exchange rate was so high and don't in many country this is the best way to do a transaction in all over the globe without having a exchange of currency with just using bitcoin the easiest way I know is there are exchanger in a bitcoin wallet.

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