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September 24, 2018, 11:45:25 AM |
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@sampam Any bank in Europe will ask you from where the money comes from once you hit a limit. 10k€ is like making waves with your shirt and shouting "hey look at me"
And what do you say then? What will they accept as valid reasons? Coins get messy with all the trading and depending on when you bought and how much it appreciated or not.
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It's how the banking system and the financial markets authority work in Europe. With the European laws, you're not so free financially speaking. you can't make whatever you want with your money. To give you an example, in my country, your account is flagged once you hit 5000€ worth of transactions within 30 days. So, the bank has to abide by the law and report your account to the authority govt. then the authority will scrutinize the last transaction to see what you're doing with your money. Dirty coins or not doesn't matter since you don't transfer coins to your bank account, but you trade for fiat and only then transfer outside. An exchange or a web wallet can also ask you from where the coins come from and what is your activity
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September 25, 2018, 03:23:06 AM |
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It's how the banking system and the financial markets authority work in Europe. With the European laws, you're not so free financially speaking. you can't make whatever you want with your money. To give you an example, in my country, your account is flagged once you hit 5000€ worth of transactions within 30 days. So, the bank has to abide by the law and report your account to the authority govt. then the authority will scrutinize the last transaction to see what you're doing with your money. Dirty coins or not doesn't matter since you don't transfer coins to your bank account, but you trade for fiat and only then transfer outside. An exchange or a web wallet can also ask you from where the coins come from and what is your activity
So then what? If you are transferring money from exchange account that is in your name to your bank account that is in your name, what is the problem? If you then transfer it from that account in your name to another of your accounts elsewhere that is in your name, what is the problem then? It is your money and you took it out of coins to put back into your bank account/s. Would they require proof in this circumstance and if so, what kind? Probably, best to keep it under the 10k limit?
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September 25, 2018, 08:23:02 AM |
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@sampam Any bank in Europe will ask you from where the money comes from once you hit a limit. 10k€ is like making waves with your shirt and shouting "hey look at me"
@elmanager Can you tell me about the verification process with ICard?. The verification is manual or automatic? If it's manual then I won't be able to use their service, my ID will be rejected for sure.
I got a direct video call via the app, where I showed my id to a person from the company and spoke with him.Definitely its not a bot or system.I think you got bigger chances when you communicate with person not a machine. Im not sure for other methods
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September 27, 2018, 09:47:59 AM |
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It's how the banking system and the financial markets authority work in Europe. With the European laws, you're not so free financially speaking. you can't make whatever you want with your money. To give you an example, in my country, your account is flagged once you hit 5000€ worth of transactions within 30 days. So, the bank has to abide by the law and report your account to the authority govt. then the authority will scrutinize the last transaction to see what you're doing with your money. Dirty coins or not doesn't matter since you don't transfer coins to your bank account, but you trade for fiat and only then transfer outside. An exchange or a web wallet can also ask you from where the coins come from and what is your activity
If you don't mind a lil correction, you got flagged once you hit 60k euro, for UK is 40k gbp.
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September 27, 2018, 12:17:12 PM |
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Where does N26 stand these days? Chat support said they think kraken, coinbase, bitstamp and bitpanda are ok.
Are they really ok with crypto and these exchanges work or was support chat misinformed and they close your accounts?
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September 29, 2018, 05:13:42 PM |
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oh this is very nice, thanks for the info, might actually use it in the future
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September 30, 2018, 02:22:07 PM |
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Where does N26 stand these days? Chat support said they think kraken, coinbase, bitstamp and bitpanda are ok.
Are they really ok with crypto and these exchanges work or was support chat misinformed and they close your accounts?
It's a problem, they think but they are not sure. But from what I notice here and there is it depends how cute you are. Some people are doing ok but random people get their account terminated without any clear reasons. N26 terms & conditions page says it can suspend and terminate their account if they think you misuse your account. Nothing clearly explained. I find it has a double standard
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October 01, 2018, 02:03:00 PM |
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Where does N26 stand these days? Chat support said they think kraken, coinbase, bitstamp and bitpanda are ok.
Are they really ok with crypto and these exchanges work or was support chat misinformed and they close your accounts?
It's a problem, they think but they are not sure. But from what I notice here and there is it depends how cute you are. Some people are doing ok but random people get their account terminated without any clear reasons. N26 terms & conditions page says it can suspend and terminate their account if they think you misuse your account. Nothing clearly explained. I find it has a double standard Well that is scary lol N26 2nd time said yes no problem with Kraken, IO, Bitstamp, Bitpanda etc. Kraken said they dont have problems with deposits/withdrawals to N26.... So it is completely arbitrary and just random? Or they want to see you use your account for 'normal' things too like buy food, pay bills, eat out, pay taxi etc and if crypto on top then ok because its 'normal' use? Bunq also has this kind of 'normal' use clause apparently and they specified it that way ie using for daily life things.
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October 02, 2018, 09:09:32 PM |
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Don't always believe people on chat when dealing with such companies. Chat operators sometimes don't know very well the products of the company, they often have different versions depending on the person. When you ask a too much-complicated question they need to call someone from the level above Personally, I would not take the risk unless you deal with a small amount (xxx$ max) and never keep any money in the account.
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October 02, 2018, 10:38:05 PM |
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Don't always believe people on chat when dealing with such companies. Chat operators sometimes don't know very well the products of the company, they often have different versions depending on the person. When you ask a too much-complicated question they need to call someone from the level above Personally, I would not take the risk unless you deal with a small amount (xxx$ max) and never keep any money in the account.
Good points I guess I will continue to use Mister Tango. Till other options open up for non-eu citizens.
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October 04, 2018, 01:23:51 PM |
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Mister tango appears to still be working fine (Few thousand Euros at a time...Have not tried dozens or hundreds of thousands lol).
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October 10, 2018, 05:57:04 PM |
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Can Mistertango accept usd deposits?
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October 15, 2018, 04:05:38 PM |
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Are you using it for your crypto activity? Since Leupay, if I am correct, stopped to support cryptocurrency transactions related
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Bouffe ma chatte, pas la planète!
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October 15, 2018, 10:38:07 PM |
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Maybe it's not very important thing, but are you sure that Wirexapp is Lithuanian bank? It seems that they're UK based.
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October 17, 2018, 07:41:08 PM |
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MisterTango will introduce a 1% fee based on the account balance from 17 Dec.
"Fee equals to 1% annual interest rate and applied on client’s any balance amount. The fee will be automatically calculated and accumulated on daily basis, and charged on the last day of current month."
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October 17, 2018, 10:24:57 PM |
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MisterTango will introduce a 1% fee based on the account balance from 17 Dec.
"Fee equals to 1% annual interest rate and applied on client’s any balance amount. The fee will be automatically calculated and accumulated on daily basis, and charged on the last day of current month."
Where did you got this information? I didn't got email message from Mistertango, I also don't see this announcement on my account. While traditional banks are paying interest (tiny, but still), Mistertango decide to charge customers who hold money there. In my opinion, they already have too big fees - €5 to enable crypto deposits/withdrawals, 0.0025 BTC deposit/withdrawal fee. Personally, I think it's time to switch to Revolut or N26.
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October 17, 2018, 10:51:04 PM |
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Look like they are spinning their business model and do like a lot of Eu banks introduced, supposed to be a"maintenance monthly fee". They would have to introduce this from the start and not after 1 year of operation. Since they claim to be a bank, be ready to get the as with your bank
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October 18, 2018, 12:54:04 PM |
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MisterTango will introduce a 1% fee based on the account balance from 17 Dec.
"Fee equals to 1% annual interest rate and applied on client’s any balance amount. The fee will be automatically calculated and accumulated on daily basis, and charged on the last day of current month."
Where did you got this information? I didn't got email message from Mistertango, I also don't see this announcement on my account. While traditional banks are paying interest (tiny, but still), Mistertango decide to charge customers who hold money there. In my opinion, they already have too big fees - €5 to enable crypto deposits/withdrawals, 0.0025 BTC deposit/withdrawal fee. Personally, I think it's time to switch to Revolut or N26. They sent it via email. Maybe its in your junk box or they haven't sent everyone at the same time?
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