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I scan Kindle for freebies and this popped up today, free over the weekend. The title is "Biosingularity" and it's written by Mason Vigil. Definitely a different take on the theory of evolution and life. Many books on this topic are creationists bashing evolution, or evolution proponents saying creationists are idiots. This one actually avoids doing that and offers scientific and philosophical ideas that were new to me. Wish it was a bit longer because it's a very interesting topic. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MUBNQLY
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January 22, 2017, 07:15:08 AM |
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Not an affiliate link; just a sharing a good read. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 22, 2017, 08:17:42 PM |
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Another definition of evolution. When are people going to realize that there isn't any evolution in the original sense of the word. The only way proponents of evolution are able to make evolution exist, is to change the meaning into some other meaning of something that DOES exist. Of course, that doesn't make the original meaning to be something that exists. It only shows that evolutionists don't like giving up on their religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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January 22, 2017, 08:37:07 PM |
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Another definition of evolution. When are people going to realize that there isn't any evolution in the original sense of the word. The only way proponents of evolution are able to make evolution exist, is to change the meaning into some other meaning of something that DOES exist. Of course, that doesn't make the original meaning to be something that exists. It only shows that evolutionists don't like giving up on their religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Exactly!
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January 22, 2017, 08:47:22 PM |
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Another definition of evolution. When are people going to realize that there isn't any evolution in the original sense of the word. The only way proponents of evolution are able to make evolution exist, is to change the meaning into some other meaning of something that DOES exist. Of course, that doesn't make the original meaning to be something that exists. It only shows that evolutionists don't like giving up on their religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I could say the same thing about gods. They are only a representation of human fantasies, but believers also don't like giving up, as it might show they were wrong most of their lives and wasted so much time and money worshiping something that not only does not give a shit but doesn't exist.
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January 22, 2017, 09:58:44 PM |
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Another definition of evolution. When are people going to realize that there isn't any evolution in the original sense of the word. The only way proponents of evolution are able to make evolution exist, is to change the meaning into some other meaning of something that DOES exist. Of course, that doesn't make the original meaning to be something that exists. It only shows that evolutionists don't like giving up on their religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I could say the same thing about gods. They are only a representation of human fantasies, but believers also don't like giving up, as it might show they were wrong most of their lives and wasted so much time and money worshiping something that not only does not give a shit but doesn't exist. It IS A FACT, no shit of the gods has ever been found.
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January 22, 2017, 10:03:38 PM |
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I don't believe in evolution, There is always a higher power involve.
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January 22, 2017, 10:10:21 PM |
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My definition about of evolution is that pupils borned like a pupils a long time ago longer time then nature scienctists says to us and we listen them everthing but we dont need to beleive now to every nature scientist proof because like example if they found oldest bone which is old 50000 years they say that pupils exist 50000 years but that is not true that means that pupils exist at least 50000 years so never trust to scientist newspapers if they dont say true correctly.I dont beleive that good created as or that we evoluted from monkey that is really weird and without any proofs.My personal think which is the most normal think about pupils are that pupils borned long ago together with universe without any evolution and we didnt becomed pupil like today from old homo pupils we are always same.
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January 23, 2017, 01:02:37 AM |
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Another definition of evolution. When are people going to realize that there isn't any evolution in the original sense of the word. The only way proponents of evolution are able to make evolution exist, is to change the meaning into some other meaning of something that DOES exist. Of course, that doesn't make the original meaning to be something that exists. It only shows that evolutionists don't like giving up on their religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) After reading the book I'd tend to agree with you. I never had strong opinions one way or the other about evolution, but now I'm more inclined to question the textbook claims made about evolution. You should read the book if you have kindle. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
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January 23, 2017, 01:11:52 AM |
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It IS A FACT, no shit of the gods has ever been found.
If you were a primitive human with a limited understanding of the world, mainly driven by survival instincts and impulses, then you saw a human from 2000+ years in the future fly in on a space raft, get out (wearing a space suit and helmet) you may think that human is a "god like" being from "the heavens". You'd draw crude pictures on cave walls depicting this - and such drawings are abundant around the planet. Religions have tried to personify god into something relatable to simple humans, and religion is more about politics than it is about spirituality...but the fundamental notion that a universal force with some kind of sentience exists is far more likely than unlikely - even though it cannot be proven either way.
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January 23, 2017, 01:16:38 AM |
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Another definition of evolution. When are people going to realize that there isn't any evolution in the original sense of the word. The only way proponents of evolution are able to make evolution exist, is to change the meaning into some other meaning of something that DOES exist. Of course, that doesn't make the original meaning to be something that exists. It only shows that evolutionists don't like giving up on their religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I could say the same thing about gods. They are only a representation of human fantasies, but believers also don't like giving up, as it might show they were wrong most of their lives and wasted so much time and money worshiping something that not only does not give a shit but doesn't exist. It IS A FACT, no shit of the gods has ever been found. The difference is the evidence and scientific proof of the one real God: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. The evidence and proof don't say much about Him. But they not only show that He exists, but also that He is God Almighty way beyond imagination or anything mankind can do or think. The same science that tries to make us believe that Evolution theory is fact (actually, it is some scientists, universities, and media), is the science that uses solid science law to prove that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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January 23, 2017, 02:35:25 AM |
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It is about what will you are going to believe on. We should all know what shall we going to be believing, what they are saying?, or on science fictions will be going believe on. We see that there is a lot of evolution, we are the one who will choose what we are going to believe on or trust on?
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January 23, 2017, 03:56:27 AM |
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It is about what will you are going to believe on. We should all know what shall we going to be believing, what they are saying?, or on science fictions will be going believe on. We see that there is a lot of evolution, we are the one who will choose what we are going to believe on or trust on?
Evolution as simple change goes on all around us all the time. Evolution as random mutations that advance life is impossible - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.0.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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January 23, 2017, 04:28:02 AM |
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Another definition of evolution. When are people going to realize that there isn't any evolution in the original sense of the word. The only way proponents of evolution are able to make evolution exist, is to change the meaning into some other meaning of something that DOES exist. Of course, that doesn't make the original meaning to be something that exists. It only shows that evolutionists don't like giving up on their religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I could say the same thing about gods. They are only a representation of human fantasies, but believers also don't like giving up, as it might show they were wrong most of their lives and wasted so much time and money worshiping something that not only does not give a shit but doesn't exist. It IS A FACT, no shit of the gods has ever been found. The difference is the evidence and scientific proof of the one real God: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. The evidence and proof don't say much about Him. But they not only show that He exists, but also that He is God Almighty way beyond imagination or anything mankind can do or think. The same science that tries to make us believe that Evolution theory is fact (actually, it is some scientists, universities, and media), is the science that uses solid science law to prove that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I've just read part of your essay and came to a conclusion that you're a lunatic. The vast majority of people recognize the greatness of the universe, naturally. They recognize that Something very great must have caused the universe and nature to come into existence. They know it is not themselves, because try as they might, they can't affect nature except in extremely limited ways. They can't stop themselves from aging and dying. People recognize that as they can think, there must be Something that can think far beyond what they can. This is instinctive, natural knowledge. That is part of the reason that people throughout the world look for God. That's part of the reason that there are religions. People know in their hearts, inner minds, and spirits that God must exist. Usually it is the frustration of certain people in being unable to determine much of anything about God, that they simply throw in the towel, so to speak, and give up on the idea of God. Way down deep in their hearts they know that God exists. But because of circumstances and their inability to find Him, they attempt to entirely push Him out of their lives. And many of them succeed to a great extent.
According to you god exists because people deny his existence and you somehow know that deep inside they know that he is real Nations look for an explanation = god exists ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) People denby his existence = he exists The majority can't be wrong! = he exists ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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January 23, 2017, 09:52:11 PM |
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Another definition of evolution. When are people going to realize that there isn't any evolution in the original sense of the word. The only way proponents of evolution are able to make evolution exist, is to change the meaning into some other meaning of something that DOES exist. Of course, that doesn't make the original meaning to be something that exists. It only shows that evolutionists don't like giving up on their religion. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I could say the same thing about gods. They are only a representation of human fantasies, but believers also don't like giving up, as it might show they were wrong most of their lives and wasted so much time and money worshiping something that not only does not give a shit but doesn't exist. It IS A FACT, no shit of the gods has ever been found. The difference is the evidence and scientific proof of the one real God: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. The evidence and proof don't say much about Him. But they not only show that He exists, but also that He is God Almighty way beyond imagination or anything mankind can do or think. The same science that tries to make us believe that Evolution theory is fact (actually, it is some scientists, universities, and media), is the science that uses solid science law to prove that God exists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I've just read part of your essay and came to a conclusion that you're a lunatic. The vast majority of people recognize the greatness of the universe, naturally. They recognize that Something very great must have caused the universe and nature to come into existence. They know it is not themselves, because try as they might, they can't affect nature except in extremely limited ways. They can't stop themselves from aging and dying. People recognize that as they can think, there must be Something that can think far beyond what they can. This is instinctive, natural knowledge. That is part of the reason that people throughout the world look for God. That's part of the reason that there are religions. People know in their hearts, inner minds, and spirits that God must exist. Usually it is the frustration of certain people in being unable to determine much of anything about God, that they simply throw in the towel, so to speak, and give up on the idea of God. Way down deep in their hearts they know that God exists. But because of circumstances and their inability to find Him, they attempt to entirely push Him out of their lives. And many of them succeed to a great extent.
According to you god exists because people deny his existence and you somehow know that deep inside they know that he is real Nations look for an explanation = god exists ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) People denby his existence = he exists The majority can't be wrong! = he exists ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) No. All that is according to you. God exists because He exists. That's it. Period. People think and do all kinds of things. It doesn't affect God, except that it bothers Him that they keep on hurting themselves by denying His existence. But, what can He do about it? Nothing... because He made people so great that they can deny Him if they want. It was never His intent that they deny Him. But He made them that great. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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