Dash PR rep got destroyed on this interview

[qwizzie]

I still find it a bit strange to see a 'newcomer to Monero' making these kind of threads and finding these kind of interviews usefull to
other newcomers.

I'm just thankfull Dash does not have these kind of newcomers, hellbend on making these kind of threads in the altcoin discussion section.
Carry on gentlemen ... this thread is all yours now.

    

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[Devnant]

I still find it a bit strange to see a 'newcomer to Monero' making these kind of threads and finding these kind of interviews usefull to
other newcomers.

I'm just thankfull Dash does not have these kind of newcomers, hellbend on making these kind of threads in the altcoin discussion section.
Carry on gentlemen ... this thread is all yours now.

    

Just to remind you, Bitcoin and NXS too by the way, and crypto in general. Even still, no arguments from any of the Dash shills on the topic. Just personal attacks and accusations. But I don't find that strange at all coming from someone heavily invested in Dash masternodes, but who am I to say anything?

[btc_zero_sum]

i wonder if being "fat and ugly" has something to do with being "nasty and troll"

[s1gs3gv]

If people want to think they are watching hard hitting crypto journalism asking the hard questions , good luck to them, really good luck.

~LOL~

[The Sceptical Chymist]

LOL, that guy on the left, his head looks like a toaster. 

Dash doesn't have a great rep as I understand it, but this didn't do much to destroy whatever rep exists.  I happen to like Dash, but even I can tell it's headed for failure.  Most of the altcoins are, because they're never going to be used as currency and I can't seem many people wanting to mine them for much longer.   The novelty is going to wear off, you watch.

[toknormal]

...I can't see many people wanting to mine them for much longer.

A visit to your local optician should fix that.

[falala69]

I am just wandering why they wanna doing an interview in toilet? LOL

[Warkop]

highly inappropriate conduct interviews in front of the toilet, it seems there is no place for them to do the interview, until it is done in front of the toilet. I see this look strange and inappropriate to be done in a place like this.

[cryptohunter]

...I can't see many people wanting to mine them for much longer.

A visit to your local optician should fix that.

Not much left to mine that is profitable on gpu.  It's a scam coin. The tech to me is secondary in importance. If it had amazing tech (which many of the top coders on this board say it has not) then it should be cloned and distributed in a fair manner as most of the other POW coins of that time were.

Since it apparently has nothing going for it except zealots and deep pocket whales who are just reaping all benefits of the ponzi through their masternodes and hoards of cheap coins they got for captive instamining it can never seriously get adopted because any person looking into it via google or other means will immediately be hit with the facts of the scam.

The captive instamine, slashing of the minting and masternodes however is kind of a touch of genius for a guaranteed self enrichment scheme.

Evans to me is not the worst thing about dash and personal attacks on his person other than to attack his actions on the captive instamine and slashing of the minting should be avoided - he's a scammer yes but whether he is an ugly ginger scammer or not ( i have never really seen what he looks like anyway so I have no clue nor am interested) is neither here nor there. He should dump that and move on to something else.

I didn't watch the interview but why bother? so many of the top coders on here have looked at dash and found it inferior to other projects trying to accomplish the same thing.  I don't care about xmr or really any anon coins although I am supporting dnet just on the basis of I hope they can clone and dethrone dash.  Anon is not something I am passionate about so I don't have vast knowledge of other anon coins.

The dash spammers here are zealots and for the most part not that rude or aggressive - shame they could not have found an honest project to get behind. When dash implodes (it is taking a lot longer than I thought these guys have staying power that is for sure) it will happen fast like all ponzi schemes. I hope the honest investors and miners get out first.

Qwizzie - come and join an honest project like dnet PIVx or any other coin that is not a proven scam coin. I have over 100 different coins and don't care to become a zealot over any one project. However I can see you like to focus on only one. I will assist you choosing a new honest project free from any scamming past.

I have asked you before why choose dash? it is not technically superior to other coins. It is no longer ahead of its time. It is a proven scam.. so why? why choose dash to invest you time an effort when you say you don't even have a huge stake in it?

Why not liquidate your share in dash and become a whale in dnet or PIVx?

Or any other honest coin with a good dev team?

Anyone liquidating even 1 masternode in dash will have a FAR greater chance of huge returns with PIVx (dnet)

[toknormal]

zealots

Speaking of which, how's your forehead these days ?

I hear these come in handy. You might even be able to pick one up on alphabay using a certain stealth coin that doesn't tax your sense of injustice so acutely. There you go - relief for you on 2 fronts at once - don't say I'm not helpful !

You'll need it because apparently...



Your trading tips are of course also appreciated. Hopefully you'll stick around

[K~Ehleyr]

You trolls are so funny. Keeping repeating "proven scam" doesn't make something a scam nor does it constitute proof of such. Keep up the publicity stunts though!  Your work is invaluable 

[aarturka]

I didn't know that dash had any reputation to be destroyed...

[nikkisnowe]

Although Dash is a scam I don't see it dying a quick death anytime soon as it's setup to prevent it from doing so is ingenious.  In order to be a masternode within the Dash system entitling that node to part of the block reward, the masternode operator must hold 1000 dash.  Currently there are 4335 masternode operators therefore holding a minimum of (lets do the math) 4,335,000 Dash out of a current supply of 7.045 Million dash (Roughly 62%).   45% of the block reward keeps going to these masternode operators, therefore their market-share of the dash network will essentially never go down.  With 62% of the coin supply that will essentially never be sold, it won't die a quick death but instead it will be agonizingly slow as other investors become slowly disenfranchised with the altcoin.  Considering also that 10% of the block reward is reserved to such things as marketing efforts, Dash itself is in a position to pay, buy off, or suppress any negative press.  These marketing efforts will again cause its death to be a slow spiral instead of a quick one.  
Dash will slowly die as investors eventually realize that it's a scam as its only pseudo claim to fame, anonymity, does not exist.  With users haivng to voluntarily opt-in to trust the masternode operators to mix their individual coins its not anonymous as analysis can be done on transactions that have not been voluntarily mixed and maternodes themselves could easily be the ones doing the analysis.  Unless the system acts to trustlessly anonymize all coins/tokens in the system, it is not anonymous.
The concern that I believe Dash should be aware of is Evan Duffield's marketing of Dash as a virtual corporation with different tiers within the corporation.  I've seen numerous presentations where he has touted Dash itself as having hired numerous full time developers, and the masternode operators as being part of the corporation upper level along with miners who are all being paid out from the block rewards.  I think that he is setting himself up to be sued by various governmental agencies such as the US Securities and Exchange Commission whereas he is acting as a de facto CEO.  I can easily see him and any other identifiable individuals associated with Dah taken down for various SEC or other similar government violations.  Once the head of the snake/scam is cut off, its over.

[toknormal]

its only pseudo claim to fame, anonymity, does not exist.

Feel free to demonstrate this claim at your convenience 

Meanwhile, if you include the one design priority you deliberately left out then you'll in fact discover that Dash is as yet unsurpassed as a privacy coin 

[arielbit]

its only pseudo claim to fame, anonymity, does not exist.

Feel free to demonstrate this claim at your convenience  

Meanwhile, if you include the one design priority you deliberately left out then you'll in fact discover that Dash is as yet unsurpassed as a privacy coin  

nobody answered my inquiry about blockchain analysis unmasking DASH privacy, back then...i guess it's time to show this again....DASH peddlers cmon!  

BTW it was really fun watching the video, the DASH person got grilled but he is technically inclined (supposed to give good answers)...he tried to white wash the "instamine" word, suggested a better word, got lost and cannot find a better word to substitute the "instamine" LOL .... he was a fanatic and i guess that two got out of control because it will really become fun to troll that "fanatic" hehe

4) Most important, those who use PrivateSend have nothing to worry about, because the financial privacy it offers is pretty much ironclad. ICEBREAKER has been trying to crack a 4-round PrivateSend transaction that I posted nearly a year ago and still can't do it.

tl;dr Use PrivateSend, and we can't control what private companies do in any event.

- they will know you are mixing because prior to mixing they can watch your coins, and say "oh it became obfuscated therefore it was mixed"..

- and they also know that your coins came from wallet mixing because it wasn't generated by mining pools and POS masternodes...

that's a huge security hole for your privacy  

So I know that normally we aren't supposed to quote trolls, but I think these are two relatively valid points that can be easily addressed for any non-trolls that might be interested.

1) Yes, anybody who watches the blockchain will know that coins have been mixed. That's one of the core design elements of Dash--the ability to mix coins. That's like saying "They will know that a Monero user is trying to obfuscate their spending because they're using Monero." That's not really a secret. PrivateSend makes it so that they can't trace a transaction back to its source address. Nobody cares if you've mixed your coins. We all mix our coins. So what?

2) Yes, that one is also self-evident. It's right there in the blockchain. So what that those funds came from mixing? You can't trace a tx back to its source wallet, and there's your financial privacy.

It's sort of like saying "Ohhhhh...his phone is locked! He is trying to protect his privacy!"...granted...but everybody locks their phones. Unless you can bypass the lock, you don't know what's on the phone.

okay..lets expand a little

so the remaining privacy for dash is "tracing proof" but not block chain analysis


your analogy:

It's sort of like saying "Ohhhhh...his phone is locked! He is trying to protect his privacy!"...granted...but everybody locks their phones. Unless you can bypass the lock, you don't know what's on the phone

they know what's on your phone (call logs and dates), they just can't trace whose your calling to.

[toknormal]

nobody answered my inquiry about blockchain analysis unmasking DASH

Well at least your spelling's an improvement on your analytical deductions, even though it has some ways to go

[arielbit]

nobody answered my inquiry about blockchain analysis unmasking DASH

Well at least your spelling's an improvement on your analytical deductions, even though it has some ways to go

staying away from the topic again?? hehe.. seen all your tricks   ..what now? gonna rain off topic posts again with your buddies and bury my post in pages of gibberish again?    .. you, me and bitcointalk are not going anywhere buddy, go and play with your monero friends again if you aren't going to answer my inquiry  

[toknormal]

seen all your tricks  

Well none of mine are as effective as that little "squiggle" on your flowchart.

That sure is a handy tool for when you're short on cognizance

[arielbit]

seen all your tricks  

Well none of mine are as effective as that little "squiggle" on your flowchart.

That sure is a handy tool for when you're short on cognizance

well.. that little "squiggle" is as simple as it gets to explain your dead end pursuit for technological advancement...your shitcoin is outdated, lost to innovation... that's what you get when you can't build your coin from scratch in the beginning, cloning bitcoin and building on top of it's code base, the algo was taken from quark's 6 hashing algo (X6) and made it X11, hell can't even think of a name for your coin(stole dashcoin's name), did you know darkcoin name was still not Evan and co. original name? it was taken from a coin that didn't launch..

....speaking of being "short on cognizance " LOL

[cryptohunter]

I'll talk about everything else except the facts that dash is a scam.


I'll focus on the facts possibility that there are still profits to be squeezed out of it by enticing unknowing victims into the self enriching scam ponzi.

For those still questioning the FACT it was a captive instamined scam coin that had it's minting reduced to magnify their instamined loot...


Threads examining the evidence of the captive instamine and reduction of the minting to magnify such instamining ...PROOF OF SCAM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999084.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0



I had previously thought that the current developments were being funded from the HUGE % of scammed coins the devs took at the start. I had thought it was good they had stuck around for that at least. I now hear that that is not the case. They instead just set up a ton of masternodes to prop up the price and absorbing a large % of the new mintings and take another 10%  to fund the development. What a scam. Of course they stuck around they are sitting on a self funding self enrichment scheme where they don't even use their scam loot to pay for any development at all.

Anyone mining or investing in this are simply throwing money at these rogues. They mined up blocks of 500 coins many blocks per second at some points, then after sucking up a huge % of the total minting they decided it was not large enough so took away 75% of all the future coins it would have been possible to mine. Then they decided of what little was left to mine they would take some of those too by simply saying for every 1000 coins we scammed you out of(2 blocks we mined several of per second) we now want a cut of all the new block rewards that are mined and we will make all the future decisions. Who would want to join this scam now at this point?

I know that there are certain legalities one must observe regarding premined tokens if you live in certain areas. I wonder what the authorities would make of the comparison between and capitve instamine and a premine. There is actually no difference except scammers like evans try to pass a captive instamine off as a fair launch. So really it's like a dishonest premine. Should be extra penalties for intentional deceit.

I'm sure when dash is large enough there will be reason enough for him and the other devs to be investigated in more detail. Or perhaps evans and his pals will get of lightly and dash will crash and burn before anyone really bothers examining it's history in detail. I bet they get out first though sadly and honest miners and investors will get burned hardest of all.