Monero under scrutiny of the FBI

[Piston Honda]

xmr rekt

every scumbags websites full of fuck up shit to use a shitcoin on lel.

[ArticMine]

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Where is that comment? I don't see how you addressed that.

Im just saying, bitcoin can make FBI attempts to trace people's coins, but a mixer like helix under Tor seems like it would frustrate their attempts to properly trace it.

What im also saying is, eventually everyone using crypto will be labelled a potential terrorist, that's why anonimity by default should be what we need. Monero is good because of that, but the problem is, they don't really solve the node centralization problem. Their dynamic block size approach will make the network prone to nodes being centralized, which makes the coin less anonymous than bitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1762690.0;all

These spam attacks work because of the fixed blocksize in Bitcoin and have a very significant adverse impact on a Bitcoin node's bandwidth costs. The reason I know this is because I run a full Bitcoin node.

The fact that this is making the Bitcoin network unreliable driving away both users and merchants cannot be underestimated.

Edit: The following quote from the above thread says it best:

So I've finally got the in-laws on board with bitcoin.  I've set them up a Coinbase account and given them an Electrum wallet.

To demonstrate how to use the Electrum wallet, I send them a small amount with the default 0.0005btc/btc as the fee from mine.

That was 18 hours ago, and now they think I am an idiot.

This is EPIC FAIL of marketing 101.

Still unconfirmed and I am on the ropes trying to make excuses.

This technology is obviously just not ready for prime time.

[Spoetnik]

I love how your defense retorts get decimated then very next comment you all keep posting the same defense retort.. as usual with Monero idiots here.  

It's not a sign it's legit.. a pile of reasons why are posted.
You ignore them.
You post it's legit now  

Being a stubborn brain damaged moron bag holder deceitful shithead shill bitch will accomplish nothing.

I am laughing at you guys and all your fucking FAIL.

It's like Playing rock, paper, scissors with retards..

They play Rock and i play Turnip.
They play Rock and i play Car.
They play Rock and i play Shoes.
They play Rock and i play Cell Phone

On and on i keep pounding their ass's into submission and they get up and wander over a sad pathetic disheveled mess harping and whining their sad little retorts.

Future Predictions ?

..your honor this is all clearly "FUD" by Trolls so we request the case be dismissed.

DENIED.  

[michaelthecryptoguy]

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGoYWKAE.png&t=573&c=4haTCX3DiCvLNA




What is happening here is there could be a massive pullout of all bitcoins or cryptocurrency that are in any investment, from the US government.

[michaelthecryptoguy]

I wonder if it is in any way connected to this :

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5qhaud/am_i_the_only_one_who_has_their_poloniex_account/
https://i.imgur.com/GoYWKAE.png

What is happening here is there could be a massive pullout of all bitcoins or cryptocurrency that are in any investment, from the US government.




https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGoYWKAE.png&t=573&c=4haTCX3DiCvLNA

[jjacob]

The darknet, silk road and bitcoin's connections to it were scrutinized by the FBI at one point of time.
That has only helped in the growth of Bitcoin. 

[dbstmddhks]

Too much secret ruins too many things.

anno and privacy is different.


From wan.

[smoothie]

You were all proud as a peacock struttin' around here boasting about your oh so great DARK MARKET ADOPTION.

Now ?

..get on it Investards ..line up and brag about it more.

By all means don't stop on my account (or the FBI's)  


EDIT:

What's worse ? Spoetnik's "FUD" or the FBI hunting you ?

That pic - LOL

Interesting article about Ring CT on Steemit
https://steemit.com/cryptonote/@macrochip/warning-every-cryptonote-monero-transaction-in-history-will-be-retroactively-exposed

Warning: Every CryptoNote/Monero transaction in history will be retroactively exposed

The CryptoNote codebase and its best known currency-derivative Monero, both of which prominently use ring signature anonymity as their defining feature, build their entire privacy scheme upon said feature. This is highly problematic to anyone that relies on their transactions to be anonymous not only in the present but also well into the future as I will show in the following.

If someone or something (e.g. an AI) ever were to break ring signature anonymity every CryptoNote currency's blockchain will be completely de-anonymized from beginning to end. This only has to happen once. So in regards to anonymity Cryptonote has one centralized point of failure: The robustness of its ring signature implementation.

Case in point

A (former?) Monero team member going by the name of "Shen Noether" wrote a (now deleted) blog post about how he was able to break the anonymity of ShadowCash due to an erroneous implementation of ring signatures (Here's an archived version. - And an archive of that).

Shen went on to deanonymize the entire ShadowCash blockchain from start to finish just to prove the flaw he found was serious and painfully real. Had anyone -up to that point and subsequently- ever put their faith into SDC's flawed ring signature implementation and made a life and death transaction with ShadowCash, they'd be in mortal danger right now (to emulate doomsday rhetoric heard from Monero "steward" Riccardo Spagni in regards to other privacy-oriented currency projects and their purported flaws).

...more

That is a mighty big "if".

Please go ahead and attempt to break the cryptography behind monero. I'm sure many of its supporters would welcome it.

That is how technology gets better.

[smoothie]

Hey arsehole gang, time to start bashing VCASH again, its just having a comeback.
Looks like people are bailing XMR and buy XVC instead.

I could understand them. Too much shit coming up around XMR atm.

Bashing VCASH?  Nah, there's no need to beat that dead horse.

Without John Conner there is no VCASH just as without Evan Duffield there is no DASH.

Stop conflating BUS_FACTOR=1 hobby coins with those enjoying a critical mass of developers.

I think they have a nice coin now that the psycho is gone and the crew seems to do a good job, seems a nice hobby they have.
And you're getting desperate, because you're running out of arguments.
Your head honcho developer indeed has enough critical mass, I know that just by looking at his beer tits.

But anyway, this is the Monero FBI thread, lets go on with that and observe its downward spiral into oblivion.

When one resorts to attacking one's physical appearance instead of making valid arguments it then shows the true character of the attacker.

We are all adults here please act like one.
Thanks

[irukandji]

Bitcoin is also under investigation....and we all know had poorly Bitcoin is performing.

[Spoetnik]

WOW you all will not let up with the cliche'd retort fails.

Silk Road going down was NOT a good thing for Bitcoin.. it caused the price to crash.
It also was a thing that stained it's reputation forever pissing all over adoption.
Yet you all claim the complete opposite ? You are liars and high on drugs.

And go ahead and crack it ..it will make it stronger ?
Are you fucking god damn high or what ?

What the hell did guy say earlier about Ring shit ?
If it gets cracked then every transaction that ever happened is wide open.
And all it takes is 1 hack incident and BAM every person who used it on Alpha Bay is shitting their fucking pants !

All it takes is ONE hack to get your ass nailed by the FBI for drug trafficking on Dark Markets.
Whether this leads to an improved coin AFTERWARDS would be irrelevant..
Because the trust in Monero would be LONG GONE FOREVER !

..and what the fuck does it say on the hoody merch assholes ?
Back tracking now ?

I have addressed these points countless times before.. and you all post them again.
That is what this forum is about.. SPAM !
It's about posting lies and bullshit so much that it over shadows the truth.
If you post a lie here enough people believe it.. and the corrupt deceitful shit head shill's know it.

PS:
Cocky little Dark market shits better duck & cover.
Earth is pissed off and coming for you !
I see news almost daily about the drug Fentanyl alone..
Last 24 hours i seen a task force setup in Canada and an arrest of a dealer.
I have known guys who did time for manslaughter and bank robbery who got 7 years or less.
This Fentanyl dealer from my town just got 14 years in jail !
Why ? because there is a massive epidemic of people dying from the drug all over.
And the cops etc are on a witch hunt big time !

Guess what the fuck tards on DM's are doing ?
Selling Fentanyl with Bitcoin or Monero etc...

Good luck with that cocky idiots.

Reminder Silk Road is not running is it ?
What matters is the END RESULT......... not "how"

[DXB2017]

we all know monero is not so safe at all.

[Spoetnik]

we all know monero is not so safe at all.

I think what we all know is their bold claims can not be backed up.

Claims such as this from employee David Latapie..



Employee of this guy.. "King" Risto



AKA: rpietila



Who employed poor victim "Latapie" to work for him..



Further reading..

Monero MEW Topic

[NEWS] Monero David Latapie French Police Fraud [updated]

[marcoman22]

First they were worried about Bitcoin, and now Monero. What's next? Z-Cash?
They should understand the fact that there are probably more than a thousand cryptos out there, many of them are privacy-focused. How many of them can be kept under their watch? They can't do shit. Game over.

See, bitcoin is different from monero. Bitcoin is mainly created for decentralization and to make people free from banking systems.It is also accused that it is also used for illegal activities. But monero is created mainly announcing its anonymity and non transparency of transactions.For that reason,it is mainly used by darknet markets.Thats why,monero is under the scrutiny of FBI.

[Spoetnik]

Intent lands you in jail.. crying FUD does not let you out either. 

[flipme]

And then in other news:

Anonymous Hacks Darknet Hosting Site

A faction within the Anonymous movement has claimed responsibility for hacking Freedom Hosting II, a hosting company for TOR based onion websites or the darknet.

The hackers claimed that child pornography made up more than half of the data that was hosted on the servers.

This is not surprising considering the fact that the original Freedom Hosting hosted as many as half of the child porn sites on the darknet.

The hackers have since dumped the data, and it includes the email addresses of nearly 381,000 users. At least 21 percent of them are already included on haveibeenpwned.com, a website that tracks user data leaks.

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http://wearechange.org/anonymous-hacks-darknet-leaks-pedophile-databases/

Thats the crowd you're serving ... thats the crowd you're associating with ... thats your promotion vehicle ... thats the name you're putting on crypto ... the scum of planet earth

[goin2mars.]

Another article with Monero nowhere to be mentioned?

Ok I'll play too.

And yet another news article:

Patriots win superbowl in historic 4th quarted comeback


Yet another team of the National Football League has brought home the Vince Lombardi Trophy, a symbol indicative of savage victories for more than fifty years.

A notable team leader claimed that: “We all brought each other back,”

“We never felt out of it. It was a tough battle. They have a great team, I give them a lot of credit. We just made a few more plays than them.”

 But the high-scoring contest nearly every expert had predicted refused to emerge and the first quarter ended scoreless – the two best quarterbacks in the league this season had managed just 59 yards of passing between them.

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/05/new-england-patriots-super-bowl-51-champions-atlanta-falcons

Did you hear that? 59 yards of passing!! Don't you understand that by enabling such teams .... promoting such teams .... these are the teams that represent football for everyone .... the greatest team on planet earth

I mean, who's to say Monero's not to blame here amirite?

[generalizethis]

And then in other news:

Anonymous Hacks Darknet Hosting Site

A faction within the Anonymous movement has claimed responsibility for hacking Freedom Hosting II, a hosting company for TOR based onion websites or the darknet.

The hackers claimed that child pornography made up more than half of the data that was hosted on the servers.

This is not surprising considering the fact that the original Freedom Hosting hosted as many as half of the child porn sites on the darknet.

The hackers have since dumped the data, and it includes the email addresses of nearly 381,000 users. At least 21 percent of them are already included on haveibeenpwned.com, a website that tracks user data leaks.

<snip>

http://wearechange.org/anonymous-hacks-darknet-leaks-pedophile-databases/

Thats the crowd you're serving ... thats the crowd you're associating with ... thats your promotion vehicle ... thats the name you're putting on crypto ... the scum of planet earth

When you yell at the grandma in front of you at the grocery store for using cash, "You're supporting drugs, murder, pedophiles, hookers, terrorist and money laundering, you lousy bitch," then your histrionics over Monero will seem a little less insincere and more like good old fashion stupidity.

[andron8383]

Yup. Better to just promote a normal coin and stay under the radar.

Monero's price doesn't seem to have moved on this news though. 

FBI if want can make pressure at exchanges for xyz reason to shut down trading Monero.
At least make it hard to trade when needed.
Privacy is great feature but hard to defend today : ( when all kind spy eye on you.

[smoothie]

And then in other news:

Anonymous Hacks Darknet Hosting Site

A faction within the Anonymous movement has claimed responsibility for hacking Freedom Hosting II, a hosting company for TOR based onion websites or the darknet.

The hackers claimed that child pornography made up more than half of the data that was hosted on the servers.

This is not surprising considering the fact that the original Freedom Hosting hosted as many as half of the child porn sites on the darknet.

The hackers have since dumped the data, and it includes the email addresses of nearly 381,000 users. At least 21 percent of them are already included on haveibeenpwned.com, a website that tracks user data leaks.

<snip>

http://wearechange.org/anonymous-hacks-darknet-leaks-pedophile-databases/

Thats the crowd you're serving ... thats the crowd you're associating with ... thats your promotion vehicle ... thats the name you're putting on crypto ... the scum of planet earth

By your own logic then you are also serving & associating with any and every criminal that ever existed on the internet by using the internet.

Also you are doing the same when you use any fiat currency, you are serving & associating yourself with every criminal that ever used that type of fiat currency.

When you drive a car you are serving & associating with people who have stolen cars, smuggled drugs and illicit materials since the car was invented.

And by these 3 examples you too are associating yourself with people who deal in child porn. That's how broken your logic is.

Might as well ban spoons (because used to make crack/ice), cars (because criminals use them as getaway vehicles), brief cases (as many drug lords and thieves carry drugs and cash in them)....the list goes on.

 

Governments also then associate themselves with all types of criminals (including those dealing in child porn) by merely allowing their fiat paper to circulate and be used by these people to do such horrible things.

I don't support/condone such illegal activities, but I also don't support such broken logic as yours to associate the usage of ANYTHING to every possible criminal that has used that said THING you are trying to demonize.