[11.2kW SOLAR/WIND/MAN] NastyMining Green Energy Project ☀💨💪🔋

[OgNasty]

Are you able to charge the Powerwalls with grid power, or only with Solar generated power?  Also, does the Wind turbine plug into the same Inverter as the solar panels?

Due to regulations, at this point in time the Powerwall charges with solar generated power. I am hoping that changes soon. The wind turbine uses it’s own stand-alone inverter, while the solar panels each have their own built in inverters.

With the most recent Tesla firmware update I can now use the Powerwall for energy arbitrage!  Today is the first day of experimenting with this feature, but I do hope to have some interesting statistics to share soon.

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[Biffa]

That is good news

[HagssFIN]

I'm really interested in the Tesla Powerwall,
it is great to see some actual results through your update posts. 

[OgNasty]

I'm really interested in the Tesla Powerwall,
it is great to see some actual results through your update posts. 

So far there are only 2 settings, and neither seems to be performing exactly as expected.  I think it's "learning" how best to utilize itself, or they've got some more work to do on the new firmware.  It seems to be not providing arbitrage as much as it is trying to smooth out the energy usage and reduce peaks while extending the solar power to be used after sunset.

[OgNasty]

Is this an exclusive thing or what is nastyfans anyways? are you trying to operate a cloud mining thing? I think you should've done this from at least 2 years ago, I'd like to see a similar project where all the trusted and reputed members all together running a business where community could rely on their credibility to deliver what they promise, but seems like no one cares. shouldn't this be in services to get more visits?

NastyFans has been around and open to anyone since 2012. There’s a link in the OP to read more about it. No, it isn’t cloud mining.

[OgNasty]

Is there a waiting time for the tesla gear?  I am seriously thinking of getting one for the farm here - its a no brainer really considering the price of electric.  I have a 3.5 kw array of solar, I am not as far north as you, might get a tiny bit more sun, but probably as wet and windy on the west coast of wales

Have you any wind turbines?

There is a timeline and the hardware is listed in the beginning of this thread.

[justdigging]

How's the PowerWall Doing?

[OgNasty]

How's the PowerWall Doing?

It seems to be reducing the on-peak usage and leveling out power usage spikes, but it appears to only arbitrage energy generated with solar power. I don’t think they’re yet allowing the discharge of energy to the grid that was charged using off-peak grid energy.

[Quickseller]

It seems to be reducing the on-peak usage and leveling out power usage spikes, but it appears to only arbitrage energy generated with solar power. I don’t think they’re yet allowing the discharge of energy to the grid that was charged using off-peak grid energy.

Does this mean you are not being allowed to sell excess electricity back to the electric company?

It was my impression (based on newspaper reports) that power companies were required to buy back excess electric production via solar (and other "green" methods) in your part of the country.

[OgNasty]

It seems to be reducing the on-peak usage and leveling out power usage spikes, but it appears to only arbitrage energy generated with solar power. I don’t think they’re yet allowing the discharge of energy to the grid that was charged using off-peak grid energy.

Does this mean you are not being allowed to sell excess electricity back to the electric company?

It was my impression (based on newspaper reports) that power companies were required to buy back excess electric production via solar (and other "green" methods) in your part of the country.

I’m allowed to sell excess solar energy back to the grid, but I am not allowed to sell grid energy back to the grid at higher prices that I’ve stored in the battery. What is happening now is that instead of selling excess energy back to the grid at off-peak prices, it stores it and then uses it on-peak.

[Quickseller]

I’m allowed to sell excess solar energy back to the grid, but I am not allowed to sell grid energy back to the grid at higher prices that I’ve stored in the battery. What is happening now is that instead of selling excess energy back to the grid at off-peak prices, it stores it and then uses it on-peak.

Ahh, gotcha.

So if you wanted to, you could sell excess power at off-peak prices, but you are storing excess electricity in the battery, and using it during times at which peak prices are charged in order to avoid paying peak prices.

[OgNasty]

I’m allowed to sell excess solar energy back to the grid, but I am not allowed to sell grid energy back to the grid at higher prices that I’ve stored in the battery. What is happening now is that instead of selling excess energy back to the grid at off-peak prices, it stores it and then uses it on-peak.

Ahh, gotcha.

So if you wanted to, you could sell excess power at off-peak prices, but you are storing excess electricity in the battery, and using it during times at which peak prices are charged in order to avoid paying peak prices.

Exactly.

[mikeywith]

I’m allowed to sell excess solar energy back to the grid, but I am not allowed to sell grid energy back to the grid at higher prices that I’ve stored in the battery. What is happening now is that instead of selling excess energy back to the grid at off-peak prices, it stores it and then uses it on-peak.

the only issue with this is consuming the battery lifespan, which in some cases can be less efficient than selling energy back at off-peak-prices.

[OgNasty]

I’m allowed to sell excess solar energy back to the grid, but I am not allowed to sell grid energy back to the grid at higher prices that I’ve stored in the battery. What is happening now is that instead of selling excess energy back to the grid at off-peak prices, it stores it and then uses it on-peak.

the only issue with this is consuming the battery lifespan, which in some cases can be less efficient than selling energy back at off-peak-prices.

That is true. This is why I don’t have the battery set to fully discharge ever. It always keeps some juice for backups and to prolong it’s lifespan. If at some point the regulations change to make this a more profitable device, I will fully utilize it.

[OgNasty]

Do you have a plan to extend your capacity?

Anything could happen in the future.  I think I'd need a bigger house for this project, which isn't so much about capacity as it is a proof of concept.  With the right funding though, anything is possible.

definitely kudos to you man , astonishing efforts and awesome result  ,  HOWEVER

to follow your way would be nice to see  expense/profit calculations  to evaluate  ??

can you pls share if possible.

main point it to see  what  is your electricity cost vs powwer grid ?

If you contact a solar salesman in your area, I can promise you that they'll give you more information pertaining to your specific circumstance than you would ever want to see.

Tempering expectations though, you should expect this to be an investment of between $20,000-$30,000 and not break even over traditional energy usage for more than 10 years.  If you figure in lost potential investment on those funds, the payback period could go as high as 20 or more years depending on your conditions.  It isn't something you do to make money, as much as to be responsible and safeguard against crazy energy scenarios in the future.

[OgNasty]

In preparation for the coming high winds from monsoon season, I have added supports to the pole to keep the turbine from swinging wildly.  I've discovered a few maintenance issues, but am working to correct them.  I think a little loctite and some new blades should do the trick.  In the meantime, the turbine is continuing to function at perhaps it's best since being installed.

[Artemis3]

In preparation for the coming high winds from monsoon season, I have added supports to the pole to keep the turbine from swinging wildly.  I've discovered a few maintenance issues, but am working to correct them.  I think a little loctite and some new blades should do the trick.  In the meantime, the turbine is continuing to function at perhaps it's best since being installed.

Have you ever tried the bladeless turbines? I'm very interested in renewable energy because i don't think any future mining will be possible without it. Sooner than later all grid mining will cease due lower mining profits.

[OgNasty]

Have you ever tried the bladeless turbines?

I haven't, but I'll take a look at a retail product when it becomes available.  Seems interesting.

[cryptorythm]

Gunbot The Automatic Profit Generator for Kraken, Poloniex, Bittrex has sponsored NastyMining with the purchase of a Tesla Powerwall 2...

Hi OG, may i ask how you aquired this sponsorship? Simply ask?

[OgNasty]

Hi OG, may i ask how you aquired this sponsorship? Simply ask?

Gunthar and I have had a working relationship for a while now. When he was purchasing signature spaces from me, we thought this might be a longer lasting and more positive use for advertising dollars, which I believe it has been.