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[janos666]

Fun thought: The Ripple market now is like the Bitcoin market before shorting was possible on a substantial scale.

Yes, I mean that as: Ripple is in bubble mode and the burst will be spectacular, but I'm sure you can also derive the other implication

I'm trying to figure out how introducing of shorting have changed the Bitcoin market. My guess is that leveraged trading should decrease amplitude of bubbles to the proportion of average leverage. So if most traders would go short/long 20:1,  then bubbles will be 20 times smaller.

Bitfinex trades produce significantly bigger deviations from the mean than Bitstamp trades while the visible parts of their orderbooks show a comparable depths.

Can you hide your orders on Bitstamp?

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[oda.krell]

I said there would be a pullback from $300, but it's a waiting game. Wait until it's higher and you feel like the coast is clear and then put in your short,  but don't margin trade if you don't know what you are doing. The three surest ways for a smart man to go broke are liqueur, ladies, and leverage. Think big picture and long term.

All I can say is that if I survive this bear market, I am never EVER buying a Lamborghini. The world needs to know that Bitcoin is in the hands of competent managers of capital. They will not accept as money an asset that is so crazy volatile and who's decentral bankers are immature.

This storm will pass, and these parasites who took our money so easily will loose it just as easily when they don't expect to. They actually did me a favor by teaching me something I needed to learn and by making our project more accessible to new players.

I'm gonna take these bastards money and if I don't then I'm going to pay off the guy who does.  That's the beauty of the free market. Every trade is win-win or it doesn't happen.

 

You Sir, just went full Shroomskit.

Disagree. Sometime over the last year, I started enjoying billy's posts. Sure, he's a bit of a rambling old guy, borderline misogynist borderline anti-semite (cue Billy: "Like hell I am, borderline. I'm complete, on both counts!"), but for one, he's clearly a smart guy, and his prose is a pleasure to read.

[N12]

Agree with Wanderer. Guy is a megalomaniac who thinks he is in some heroic battle or something.

[octaft]

I said there would be a pullback from $300, but it's a waiting game. Wait until it's higher and you feel like the coast is clear and then put in your short,  but don't margin trade if you don't know what you are doing. The three surest ways for a smart man to go broke are liqueur, ladies, and leverage. Think big picture and long term.

All I can say is that if I survive this bear market, I am never EVER buying a Lamborghini. The world needs to know that Bitcoin is in the hands of competent managers of capital. They will not accept as money an asset that is so crazy volatile and who's decentral bankers are immature.

This storm will pass, and these parasites who took our money so easily will loose it just as easily when they don't expect to. They actually did me a favor by teaching me something I needed to learn and by making our project more accessible to new players.

I'm gonna take these bastards money and if I don't then I'm going to pay off the guy who does.  That's the beauty of the free market. Every trade is win-win or it doesn't happen.

 

You Sir, just went full Shroomskit.

Disagree. Sometime over the last year, I started enjoying billy's posts. Sure, he's a bit of a rambling old guy, borderline misogynist borderline anti-semite (cue Billy: "Like hell I am, borderline. I'm complete, on both counts!"), but for one, he's clearly a smart guy, and his prose is a pleasure to read.

I take it you find amusement in posters who have clearly gone bonkers from money loss?

[oda.krell]

I take it you find amusement in posters who have clearly gone bonkers from money loss?

"Date Registered: May 24, 2011,"

Somehow I doubt he went bonkers from "money loss". Loss of unrealized profits, at most.

[octaft]

I take it you find amusement in posters who have clearly gone bonkers from money loss?

"Date Registered: May 24, 2011,"

Somehow I doubt he went bonkers from "money loss". Loss of unrealized profits, at most.

Whatever the reason, are we in agreement that he is in full-bonkers mode at the moment?

EDIT: He could have been loading up on more on the way up, you know.

[NotLambchop]

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I take it you find amusement in posters who have clearly gone bonkers from money loss?

That would be me.

[oda.krell]

^ Yes and no. He makes it sound like it's some nefarious force, but what he calls "parasites" are simply a larger number of better traders that took full advantage of the ability to short on the highest volume exchanges, something that didn't exist until 2014. As a result, the market landscape changed substantially. He's right in that sense, imo.

[octaft]

^ Yes and no. He makes it sound like it's some nefarious force, but what he calls "parasites" are simply a larger number of better traders that took full advantage of the ability to short on the highest volume exchanges, something that didn't exist until 2014. As a result, the market landscape changed substantially. He's right in that sense, imo.

I'm not referring to the parasites thing as much as the "we are going to war and I must defend $XXX" thing he's been on for a while.

[ChartBuddy]

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[oda.krell]

^ Yes and no. He makes it sound like it's some nefarious force, but what he calls "parasites" are simply a larger number of better traders that took full advantage of the ability to short on the highest volume exchanges, something that didn't exist until 2014. As a result, the market landscape changed substantially. He's right in that sense, imo.

I'm not referring to the parasites thing as much as the "we are going to war and I must defend $XXX" thing he's been on for a while.

It's part of the same idea.

Pre-BFX/OKC: rally time -> get on board everyone! -> bubble in the making, everyone profits

Post-BFX/OKC: rally time (or what looks like it) -> everyone gets on board -> savvy traders skim profits from the pigs

Sure, nothing entirely new, but the scale of it is different today. The way I understand him, he's trying to drive home the point that we, the "regular" Bitcoin guys should anticipate this strategy and stop blindly following the unmotivated rallies until a "real" rally starts. What he forgets of course is that the distinction between "us" and "them" is unmotivated.

Or maybe I'm just reading too much into his posts.

[ChartBuddy]

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[derpinheimer]

Looks like Ripple has decided to hijack "The internet of money" lmfao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoixyCNWg5k



When they hit just over 30% of Bitcoin marketcap we can expect those other 70 billion xrp to be "released" to the market so they can leapfrog bitcoin, just like they did with litecoin.

Lol, in the time Bitcoin's market cap has halved, Ripple's has increased 20 fold.

[adamstgBit]

everyone nervously waiting for the plunge?

[ChartBuddy]

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[janos666]

everyone nervously waiting for the plunge?

I am bored. I was promised to see some really mad chaos but it's just boring.

[Dilla]

yea, just waiting for something to happen. *crickets*

[Fatman3001]

everyone nervously waiting for the plunge?

Be careful! Bitcoin is the land of self-fulfilling prophecies.

[ejinte]

Well, this great experiment had a good run...   

this makes no sens at all

[ChartBuddy]

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