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They prolly started with much less, but have easily doubled up or more during every raid making them ~16X more powerful than when they started- 32X if you count this last one. These are technically skilled traders to begin with who would be profitable traders even if they weren't market movers and market makers. When you have skill to begin with, it takes much less ammo to push the market in the direction it wants to go anyway. Even I could walk it up and walk it back on a slow day with very low volume and--as has been pointed out several times--am just a hick fireman.

Surely they don't risk all of their capital every time. One miscalculation or piece of bad luck and you get wiped out.

They don't have to risk all of it because they are so powerful, they only risk what they need to risk. They were going to push the market down until there was a long squeeze. I have no idea how much of their capital it took but surely not all of it. The problem is there has been no real bounce yet like the other four raids. This is new. They may have been too successful in accumulating coins and now they have (like me ironically) too many coins that aren't worth anything. Yes, we can leverage them up to push the market higher, but not sustainably without a fresh infusion of fiat.

This may be an unrecoverable stall without Big Money coming to the rescue and who knows how long we're going to bleed before the vultures come in and pick over our carcasses. I am not selling, but I have to prepare for an indefinite period without additional income.

If these traders really know what they're doing, they probably have a stash of USD in reserve just in case the bounce needs a little help, wouldn't you think? A simple bump to $240 right about now would go a long way towards keeping hope (and by hope I mean their sheep) alive.
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January 15, 2015, 06:37:22 AM

I just read a whole page without an ignored or a bear in sight. Are they exhausted yet? Cheesy

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January 15, 2015, 06:38:35 AM

I just read a whole page without an ignored or a bear in sight. Are they exhausted yet? Cheesy

I'm not complaining.

No, just that their job is done... Grin
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January 15, 2015, 06:39:24 AM

I just read a whole page without an ignored or a bear in sight. Are they exhausted yet? Cheesy

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Maybe they're all one person and he's asleep  Grin
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January 15, 2015, 06:47:44 AM

UNDERSOLD.

EMA is 290
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January 15, 2015, 06:48:40 AM

I just read a whole page without an ignored or a bear in sight. Are they exhausted yet? Cheesy

I'm not complaining.

Maybe they're all one person and he's asleep  Grin

LambTroll alone has like 10 accounts (I've ignored them all, hopefully) Tongue
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January 15, 2015, 06:50:52 AM

bulls run out of energy already? worst rally ever... RIP bitcoin.
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January 15, 2015, 06:52:32 AM

bulls run out of energy already? worst rally ever... RIP bitcoin.

Ah, visitors! Grin
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January 15, 2015, 06:56:16 AM

PATTERN BETTING

I dunno who the heavy hitter(s) is/are, but they've become very predictable.


If the Four Punch raiders are still in control of this market (I think they prolly are), we're going to see a long squeeze before the next short squeeze. Even if you are margin long, make it an ass-load of margin. With cascading margin calls and forced liquidations (such as at $400, $340, and $275), I would make sure your long liquidation price is at least as low as $200 and prolly a little more just in case. Remember, all you have to do is survive the long squeeze, go full-on stupid margin long after the bottom, ignore or slightly trade the pause and then wait for the short squeeze to close your long, go margin short, don't fall for the second bounce, ride the next crash and then cover at a price slightly higher than the previous low (I'm guessing ~$222), withdraw10 percent of your profits to pay for hookers and blow, put in a bunch of bottom-feeding limit orders under that, rinse and repeat.

These guys could easily be doubling up every time the pattern repeats and it has repeated four times so far.  That means they have ~16 times as much market clout as they did when the first crashed the market.  

PATTERN:
CRASH (long squeeze)
BOUNCE
PAUSE (fake rally then fake crash)
SPIKE (short-squeeze)
SECOND BOUNCE
Complete dissipation of all upward momentum.




I'm trying to spot these patterns you mention. Tell me if these are some of the corresponding dates:
crash on Feb 25, 2014 (spike on Mar 3, 2014)
crash on Apr 11, 2014 (spike on Apr 14, 2014)
crash on Oct 6, 2014 (spike on Oct 9, 2014)
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January 15, 2015, 07:04:41 AM

Charting might indicate that it would hit the daily EMA by end of February, which puts it within 220-260 range, but its trending downward still.  This is only theory but charting indicates it has not stayed under or over  EMA for more than 90-100 days in the last 2 years.

That would make it resistence at the top of the range.  Can it break it or continue to follow downward trend.

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January 15, 2015, 07:07:03 AM

Charting might indicate that it would hit the daily EMA by end of February, which puts it within 220-260 range, but its trending downward still.

That would make it resistence at the top of the range.  Can it break it or continue to follow downward trend.


I don't think it will continue dropping , Anymore yesterday it was a chance for newbuyers .
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'Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful' - Warren Buffett
funny, warren buffett say this
http://www.coindesk.com/warren-buffett-investors-stay-away-bitcoin/
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January 15, 2015, 07:16:08 AM

Smells like some bears are about to be skinned
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'Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful' - Warren Buffett
funny, warren buffett say this
http://www.coindesk.com/warren-buffett-investors-stay-away-bitcoin/
I wonder what his SEC 13F says about that?
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January 15, 2015, 07:28:58 AM

I just read a whole page without an ignored or a bear in sight. Are they exhausted yet? Cheesy

I'm not complaining.

Maybe they're all one person and he's asleep  Grin

LambTroll alone has like 10 accounts (I've ignored them all, hopefully) Tongue

Yep, that's pretty much what I meant by an ignored. I don't use the ignore hammer on many people and like well reasoned bearish posts but ya gotta draw personal boundaries or the demons will run amok.
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I just read a whole page without an ignored or a bear in sight. Are they exhausted yet? Cheesy

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Maybe they're all one person and he's asleep  Grin

LambTroll alone has like 10 accounts (I've ignored them all, hopefully) Tongue
Could you give us the list? Thanks.
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