billyjoeallen
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June 11, 2015, 04:51:31 PM |
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What concerns me about dark pools is that someone at the exchange has access to the hidden orders and nothing can stop them from using that information on other exchanges.
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ChartBuddy
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June 11, 2015, 04:57:24 PM |
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phoenix1
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June 11, 2015, 05:40:38 PM |
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What concerns me about dark pools is that someone at the exchange has access to the hidden orders and nothing can stop them from using that information on other exchanges.
It's like they are trying to make the mistakes of Gox again. Intransparency is a step backwards. Not sure how this is any different from hidden orders on BFX and Iceberg orders on OKC TBH, unless they never actually hit the tape There will always be this type of order on exchanges - whales will demand it, and with good reason. Else they are just gonna get front-run all the time. The issue of whether exchanges use this info for their own advantage, well, I think we know the answer to that ... 'yes, to the degree that they think they can get away with it', same as banks do with institutional players. So it comes down to a balance between how much info a big player wants to give an exchange rather than using their own software to connect to the exchange and manage the orders via the API, which has its own downside in a fast market. IMO, it's naive to believe exchanges don't use the info they are privy to, no matter how much they protest that they don't. It's simply too valuable and they will be influenced simply by seeing it. |
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phoenix1
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June 11, 2015, 05:51:02 PM |
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Not sure how this is any different from hidden orders on BFX and Iceberg orders on OKC TBH, unless they never actually hit the tape
I don't know how BFX handles hidden orders, but iceberg orders are visible in the order book - they are just strategically placed. Neither do I exactly, but the name 'hidden' kind of gives it away! |
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ChartBuddy
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June 11, 2015, 05:57:25 PM |
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bassclef
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June 11, 2015, 05:58:43 PM |
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15k coins to $200... haven't seen that in awhile.
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June 11, 2015, 06:13:30 PM |
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Now, if they would just use that $100 million to buy BTC on the open market, we would be at $32,000. |
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bassclef
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June 11, 2015, 06:22:16 PM |
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Smart money unloading stocks to the public, nothing to see here. |
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ChartBuddy
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June 11, 2015, 06:57:20 PM |
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AceWallen
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June 11, 2015, 07:01:55 PM |
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the 4h chart is pretty bearish. big bear divergence everywhere. hoping that the dip is fairly weak and safe to buy, as i expect that 225-230 area will hold and we will trend up from there.
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DutchTrades
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June 11, 2015, 07:06:54 PM |
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He will probably put all that money into Bitcoin.. |
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adamstgBit
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June 11, 2015, 07:12:02 PM |
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He will probably put all that money into Bitcoin.. is this a billion dollar dump? |
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Spaceman_Spiff
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June 11, 2015, 07:17:36 PM |
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Max Keiser is a Pump-and-Dumping scammer. In my book he deserves zero respect, even if he gets it right once in a while (which he will of course loudly publicize, in order to build enough credit to initiate his next P&D). |
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Fatman3001
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June 11, 2015, 07:22:44 PM
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Max Keiser is a Pump-and-Dumping scammer. In my book he deserves zero respect, even if he gets it right once in a while (which he will of course loudly publicize, in order to build enough credit to initiate his next P&D). He's a FOX-grade nutter living in London working for the propaganda machine of the russian government. Colourful, but wholly untrustworthy. Edit: With regards to his tweet and the article mentioned before. We've seen this before. The central bank says one thing, the finance ministry says another thing, the parliament says a third. But as long as the siloviki and Putin hasn't made a final decision, it can go either way. I, however, fear that they will ban it in the end and that this is just another attempt at imitating debate and simulating a democratic process, which is something they can do with matters they don't give a flying fudge about. |
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ElectricMucus
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June 11, 2015, 07:23:31 PM |
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Max Keiser is a Pump-and-Dumping scammer. In my book he deserves zero respect, even if he gets it right once in a while (which he will of course loudly publicize, in order to build enough credit to initiate his next P&D). He is. But he also was the face of Bitcoin once, as Roger Ver is now and Bruce Wagner was before him. It's just takes a certain personality trait. That makes me wonder why Roger "GoX is fine" Ver is still hold in so high regard. |
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phoenix1
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June 11, 2015, 07:24:20 PM |
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Max Keiser is a Pump-and-Dumping scammer. In my book he deserves zero respect, even if he gets it right once in a while (which he will of course loudly publicize, in order to build enough credit to initiate his next P&D). He's a FOX-grade nutter living in London working for the propaganda machine of the russian government. Colourful, but wholly untrustworthy. Is there somewhere we can go Max leverage short ? |
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Fatman3001
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June 11, 2015, 07:34:40 PM |
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Max Keiser is a Pump-and-Dumping scammer. In my book he deserves zero respect, even if he gets it right once in a while (which he will of course loudly publicize, in order to build enough credit to initiate his next P&D). He's a FOX-grade nutter living in London working for the propaganda machine of the russian government. Colourful, but wholly untrustworthy. Is there somewhere we can go Max leverage short ? OKCoin, always OKCoin. |
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Fatman3001
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June 11, 2015, 07:38:42 PM
Last edit: June 11, 2015, 08:37:45 PM by Fatman3001 |
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Max Keiser is a Pump-and-Dumping scammer. In my book he deserves zero respect, even if he gets it right once in a while (which he will of course loudly publicize, in order to build enough credit to initiate his next P&D). He is. But he also was the face of Bitcoin once, as Roger Ver is now and Bruce Wagner was before him. It's just takes a certain personality trait. That makes me wonder why Roger "GoX is fine" Ver is still hold in so high regard. He's (Edit: Roger Ver) not, but he talks funny. Proper nerd. So we listen. |
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