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Question: Sept. 30 Closing Price:
<$5,000 - 11 (12%)
$5000-$5,500 - 2 (2.2%)
$5,500-$6,000 - 5 (5.4%)
$6,000-$6,500 - 13 (14.1%)
$6,500-$7,000 - 14 (15.2%)
$7,000-$7,500 - 11 (12%)
$7,500-$8,000 - 7 (7.6%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 6 (6.5%)
>$8,500 - 23 (25%)
Total Voters: 92

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Must be Lauda's kids, before they are issued the kool sunglasses?
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October 30, 2017, 12:56:19 AM

3 million?

With 200 000 euros, at 6% yearly interest rate (stock market), this gives a yearly interest of 12 000 euros. This is actually the same as my yearly expenses. So i could stop working right then.

With 400 000 euros, at 6% yearly interest rate, that is 24 000 euros per year. 2000 per month. Double of what i am spending now. So that would be very comfortable living. (+ another 10k yearly to spend from 70-110 years old so i spend everything)
With 500 000 i would have 100k to burn in addition.  

btc x3 please in next 10 years Smiley

Now, to buy useless status symbols, i am much too greedy for that. Hm. Perhaps it's not so useless for the women. But will buy plastic surgery instead.


The calculations presented need to take inflation into account. Also, the stock market can not only fall short of your annualised returns, but destroy your wealth.

I do think $3 million is excessive for someone around 50 though. I'd have thought $1 mil was more than sufficient to retire.


Let's run a little bit with the hypothetical....

With an investment in traditional assets, they generally say that you are fairly safe to withdraw 4% per year and maintain your principle.  With a $1million then that is an income of $40k per year, but maybe with bitcoin you could withdraw more?  10%, perhaps?  10% would put you at $100k per year while more or less maintaining the principle..
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October 30, 2017, 01:08:51 AM

I would REALLY like to have this though:

I'd wait for their Gen 2 SUV, personally. I've heard anecdotally from owners that the first batch of Model X's had numerous issues.

TBH, though, I'm looking forward to Porsche's EV offering near 2020.


You all with your electric bs are so mislead. Besides the fact that they all will have software that the police will stop you without even touching you if they please. There is the issue of not being immune to an emp event. Smiley
  I don't like diesel as well, has too many electric components.

Encouraging dealers by buying their crap is not the solution. Smiley    (My advice: Find something that levitates, something that works on pure mechanical power or even something steampunk. Cheesy Cheesy )
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October 30, 2017, 01:10:48 AM

Dude, just buy a horse.
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October 30, 2017, 01:15:41 AM


Did i miss the /s mark? Or there's seriously someone out there that thinks that $2.0B 24hr volume on a $7.9B market cab is normal trades... so every 4days every single coin should change hands? Then I have a bridge to sell you  Grin     

I'm not arguing against the obvious BCH market manipulation. I'm only pointing out the the magical mystery miner stash is not being used. There is still all of that BCH that Wright, Ver and Wu were granted at the moment of the hardfork though. Plus, I am sure the trio still own a vast amount of BTC to play with too. Thank goodness that Wright is most probably the Anti-Satoshi and does not have access to the private key of those ~1M BTC (and now 1M BCH too) mined years ago.

Don't be foolish with any kind of nonsense speculation that Wright could actually have any thing even close to accessing Satoshi's coins, unless he happened to figure out some way to actually hack the addresses (which would actually be a BIGGER problem than any kind of pie in the sky chance that Wright actually did have some kind of access to the satoshi coins).  

What? We must have a different meaning of what "most probably" entails. In my vernacular 99.99999999999....% is most probably. Also, how is me inferring that he is the Anti-Satoshi equate to me giving serious credence to his claims?
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October 30, 2017, 01:25:38 AM

Warren Buffet explains that Bitcoin is a real bubble that will burst soon:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Economics/comments/79c3b5/warren_buffet_explains_that_bitcoin_is_a_real/


Buffett is also a hypocrite.

Slams precious metals as being useless (and not a value producing asset), then takes one of the biggest Silver long positions in history back in the late 90's.  Roll Eyes

... it's way, way worse than that. He claims to be a champion of capitalism and says stay away from derivatives that are "weapons of mass destruction" ... then parlays up a deal between the government and Goldman Sachs to bail them out of the biggest derivatives bet in history (AIG CDS payout pass through scam) and make out like a bandit from a taxpayer bailout of financial system ending derivatives bet gone bad.
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October 30, 2017, 01:26:47 AM

Dude, just buy a horse.

Luvving the stevie wonder super-troll avatar ... I see how it could get to your head.
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October 30, 2017, 01:37:58 AM

This is such an epic run up - we will reminisce about it for years to come.

By my guestimations it still has a long way to go. Bitstamp has $89m on the sidelines looking to buy just 3112 coins.
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October 30, 2017, 01:38:29 AM

Warren Buffet explains that Bitcoin is a real bubble that will burst soon:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Economics/comments/79c3b5/warren_buffet_explains_that_bitcoin_is_a_real/


Buffett is also a hypocrite.

Slams precious metals as being useless (and not a value producing asset), then takes one of the biggest Silver long positions in history back in the late 90's.  Roll Eyes

... it's way, way worse than that. He claims to be a champion of capitalism and says stay away from derivatives that are "weapons of mass destruction" ... then parlays up a deal between the government and Goldman Sachs to bail them out of the biggest derivatives bet in history (AIG CDS payout pass through scam) and make out like a bandit from a taxpayer bailout of financial system ending derivatives bet gone bad.

And isn't he still the biggest shareholder of Wells Fargo, one of the biggest criminal/scammer banks in the world?
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October 30, 2017, 01:41:37 AM

Wells Fargo just started a really top drawer marketing campaign on our behalf.

https://imgur.com/FwxvyQu

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October 30, 2017, 02:02:27 AM

^^ after everything they've been caught red-handed at it's almost an honour. Streisand effect, enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that ...
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Did i miss the /s mark? Or there's seriously someone out there that thinks that $2.0B 24hr volume on a $7.9B market cab is normal trades... so every 4days every single coin should change hands? Then I have a bridge to sell you  Grin     

I'm not arguing against the obvious BCH market manipulation. I'm only pointing out the the magical mystery miner stash is not being used. There is still all of that BCH that Wright, Ver and Wu were granted at the moment of the hardfork though. Plus, I am sure the trio still own a vast amount of BTC to play with too. Thank goodness that Wright is most probably the Anti-Satoshi and does not have access to the private key of those ~1M BTC (and now 1M BCH too) mined years ago.

Don't be foolish with any kind of nonsense speculation that Wright could actually have any thing even close to accessing Satoshi's coins, unless he happened to figure out some way to actually hack the addresses (which would actually be a BIGGER problem than any kind of pie in the sky chance that Wright actually did have some kind of access to the satoshi coins).  

What? We must have a different meaning of what "most probably" entails. In my vernacular 99.99999999999....% is most probably. Also, how is me inferring that he is the Anti-Satoshi equate to me giving serious credence to his claims?


O.k... Bones261.  

 Let's make up, then.  

I will go first.  

Kiss  

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Your turn.
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Did i miss the /s mark? Or there's seriously someone out there that thinks that $2.0B 24hr volume on a $7.9B market cab is normal trades... so every 4days every single coin should change hands? Then I have a bridge to sell you  Grin     

I'm not arguing against the obvious BCH market manipulation. I'm only pointing out the the magical mystery miner stash is not being used. There is still all of that BCH that Wright, Ver and Wu were granted at the moment of the hardfork though. Plus, I am sure the trio still own a vast amount of BTC to play with too. Thank goodness that Wright is most probably the Anti-Satoshi and does not have access to the private key of those ~1M BTC (and now 1M BCH too) mined years ago.

Don't be foolish with any kind of nonsense speculation that Wright could actually have any thing even close to accessing Satoshi's coins, unless he happened to figure out some way to actually hack the addresses (which would actually be a BIGGER problem than any kind of pie in the sky chance that Wright actually did have some kind of access to the satoshi coins).  

What? We must have a different meaning of what "most probably" entails. In my vernacular 99.99999999999....% is most probably. Also, how is me inferring that he is the Anti-Satoshi equate to me giving serious credence to his claims?


O.k... Bones261.  

 Let's make up, then.  

I will go first.  

Kiss  

 Kiss


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Your turn.

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October 30, 2017, 02:19:39 AM

Wells Fargo just started a really top drawer marketing campaign on our behalf.

https://imgur.com/FwxvyQu



They must have funded the marketing campaign with the 2 cents that I left to them when I abandoned my account in 1997. Grin
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October 30, 2017, 02:29:13 AM

Wells Fargo just started a really top drawer marketing campaign on our behalf.

https://imgur.com/FwxvyQu



They must have funded the marketing campaign with the 2 cents that I left to them when I abandoned my account in 1997. Grin

Is that the account that you opened, or the account they opened for you?
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October 30, 2017, 02:30:27 AM

Wells Fargo just started a really top drawer marketing campaign on our behalf.

https://imgur.com/FwxvyQu



They must have funded the marketing campaign with the 2 cents that I left to them when I abandoned my account in 1997. Grin

Is that the account that you opened, or the account they opened for you?

BURN!
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Is that the account that you opened, or the account they opened for you?

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They must have funded the marketing campaign with the 2 cents that I left to them when I abandoned my account in 1997. Grin

Is that the account that you opened, or the account they opened for you?

The account was originally opened at a bank that they acquired. I never picked them. Grin
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October 30, 2017, 02:49:06 AM

My grandmother has to drive 16 miles now. Bastards!
http://www.texomashomepage.com/news/local-news/residents-concerned-following-wells-fargo-closure/839666517
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October 30, 2017, 02:49:59 AM


Did i miss the /s mark? Or there's seriously someone out there that thinks that $2.0B 24hr volume on a $7.9B market cab is normal trades... so every 4days every single coin should change hands? Then I have a bridge to sell you  Grin     

I'm not arguing against the obvious BCH market manipulation. I'm only pointing out the the magical mystery miner stash is not being used. There is still all of that BCH that Wright, Ver and Wu were granted at the moment of the hardfork though. Plus, I am sure the trio still own a vast amount of BTC to play with too. Thank goodness that Wright is most probably the Anti-Satoshi and does not have access to the private key of those ~1M BTC (and now 1M BCH too) mined years ago.

Don't be foolish with any kind of nonsense speculation that Wright could actually have any thing even close to accessing Satoshi's coins, unless he happened to figure out some way to actually hack the addresses (which would actually be a BIGGER problem than any kind of pie in the sky chance that Wright actually did have some kind of access to the satoshi coins).  

What? We must have a different meaning of what "most probably" entails. In my vernacular 99.99999999999....% is most probably. Also, how is me inferring that he is the Anti-Satoshi equate to me giving serious credence to his claims?


O.k... Bones261.  

 Let's make up, then.  

I will go first.  

Kiss  

 Kiss


 Kiss



Your turn.




hahahahaha...

Makes me want to reserve a room for "us."    Tongue


Hopefully, I did not say too much to scare you away.

By the way, currently, I am in the dating scene, and I have been courting for a couple of months, and I said to the other person.  Maybe I am going to have longings over the coming days when we are apart?  And, the other person says, "why would that happen?" 

hahahahahaha...

I label that as:  "playing hard to get," which is just that, "playing."     

I did not respond substantively to such "why" comment, and accordingly, I am not going to allow those kinds of "why" comments undermine my "plan(s)" or my expectations regarding where this is going to go.

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