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Question: Oct. 23 Closing Price:
<$8,000 - 2 (3.1%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 0 (0%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 0 (0%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 0 (0%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 0 (0%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 1 (1.5%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 0 (0%)
$11,000-$11,500 - 3 (4.6%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 5 (7.7%)
$12,000-$12,500 - 16 (24.6%)
$12,500-$13,000 - 12 (18.5%)
$13,000-$13,500 - 7 (10.8%)
$13,500-$14,000 - 5 (7.7%)
>$14,000 - 14 (21.5%)
Total Voters: 65

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June 27, 2019, 11:01:24 PM

the essence of the reality of the matter is that an overwhelming majority of people do not really know bitcoin beyond having had heard the name, so anyone making suggestions, including Traxo, that everyone knows about bitcoin is engaging in a kind of exaggeration that is not even close to our actual facts on the ground situation.

Do not put words in my mouth which I never spoke.  

I actually specifically said "heard about" it - as in heard the term "bitcoin".


My point still stands, and you are bat shit crazy if you actually believe that people know about bitcoin... which is the main relevant point.. 

Again, stop lying. I did not say that.


why the fuck else talk about it... you are merely trying to suggest that adoption is widespread, and it is not.. that is the relevant point.

.. so who cares whatever the fuck you actually said because your implications are clear, you are leaving a kind of implication that many people know about bitcoin and they do not.... so don't be getting conveniently caught in technical details about what you said when it is sufficiently clear that you are spouting out inaccuracies.. because the essence of what you are saying seems to be a purposefully misleading statement because it suggest inaccurate facts about adoption and/or opportunities for adoption, which is surely not even close to the case.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Then we could say same about this quote: 

Pretty well everyone I know has heard of bitcoin.

But clearly we both made distinctions between "heard about" and "know about". 

I specifically wanted him to clarify because it was very odd to me that majority of electronics class students had not "heard" about bitcoin, when in fact everyone around me has indeed heard about it (and no, I don't imply they refused to buy it or whatever because they thought it's a scam). 

I tend to agree that many don't know about it (what it is).

That's all.


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^Any completely artificial, Keynesian widget is a scam by default.  As are all 'currencies', as opposed to 'money' (physical commodities like gold and silver).  All currencies start at a value of zero and return there - there are no exceptions.  Such is the fate of cryptocurrency.  The only type of transaction that doesn't revolve around scams is barter.  

Humans attempted to utilize money to practice specialization of labor in lieu of barter.  If you view specialization of labor as a necessary evil, the closest thing to barter without being barter itself is the exchange of physical commodity money since physical commodities are barter relatively speaking.  Any extrapolation further than that is just flat out fraud or centrally planned, Keynesian neo-feudalism/communism/it's all the same thing.

Bitcoin does NOT remove any of those central planners of communism.  It has built-in middlemen, and those 'transaction validators' are designed to centralize under corporations who can afford massive R&D budgets and foundries like Samsung, Intel, Global Foundries, TSMC, etc.  Bitcoin is the same corporate fascism that already exists, except it's even worse than what exists now because Bitcoin is nothing more than a centralized govt tracking system where the gatekeepers (the tiny amount of transaction validators) will simply blacklist your funds and make them unspendable.  It's an exact replica of the Chinese social credit score system for it's endgame evolution.
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June 27, 2019, 11:11:28 PM

the essence of the reality of the matter is that an overwhelming majority of people do not really know bitcoin beyond having had heard the name, so anyone making suggestions, including Traxo, that everyone knows about bitcoin is engaging in a kind of exaggeration that is not even close to our actual facts on the ground situation.

Do not put words in my mouth which I never spoke.  

I actually specifically said "heard about" it - as in heard the term "bitcoin".


My point still stands, and you are bat shit crazy if you actually believe that people know about bitcoin... which is the main relevant point.. 

Again, stop lying. I did not say that.


why the fuck else talk about it... you are merely trying to suggest that adoption is widespread, and it is not.. that is the relevant point.

.. so who cares whatever the fuck you actually said because your implications are clear, you are leaving a kind of implication that many people know about bitcoin and they do not.... so don't be getting conveniently caught in technical details about what you said when it is sufficiently clear that you are spouting out inaccuracies.. because the essence of what you are saying seems to be a purposefully misleading statement because it suggest inaccurate facts about adoption and/or opportunities for adoption, which is surely not even close to the case.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Then we could say same about this quote: 

Pretty well everyone I know has heard of bitcoin.

But clearly we both made distinctions between "heard about" and "know about". 

I specifically wanted him to clarify because it was very odd to me that majority of electronics class students had not "heard" about bitcoin, when in fact everyone around me has indeed heard about it (and no, I don't imply they refused to buy it or whatever because they thought it's a scam). 

I tend to agree that many don't know about it (what it is).

That's all.

Perhaps based on your further explanation and clarification we largely agree about the difference between hearing about and knowing about.    Great to be making some progress here, perhaps. Tongue

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June 27, 2019, 11:24:28 PM

How do you shave your llama sack?
Carefully and using a procedure I learnt from confirmed sources.
so proudhon, confirmed sources says no more cheaper than 11K for 1bitcoin.
Buy some gilettes, shave it properly and join the train  Grin
it's last chance - speak to you @20K on 10th of July, this year
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June 27, 2019, 11:25:51 PM

This is fine. Confirmed.
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June 27, 2019, 11:34:14 PM

Feels like this guy wrote this after reading my posts, but left out much of the more important, easily identifiable arguments as to not appear to be a direct plagiarism:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-26/one-crypto-skeptic-asks-bitcoin-diversion-natural-monetary-order
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June 27, 2019, 11:41:48 PM


Have you ever had sex with an ewe?
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June 27, 2019, 11:42:42 PM

Sure, go for it.

How do you shave your llama sack?

Carefully and using a procedure I learnt from confirmed sources.
Great to see you again! Your presence is the greatest indicator we're in a bull market. For you who doesn't know - Proudhon is the greatest bear-whale-troll there is, he's a f*cking legend.
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June 27, 2019, 11:52:25 PM

The size and the speed of the rally was unsustainable and the size and the speed of the correction was even worse. But what something like that just does is it shakes out the weak hands and reminds people that there's risk. This is a healthy movement in something that's gone as far as it is. This is what has to happen. I think it could easily gather itself above the $10,000 level and resume what it was doing before.
Bitcoin Needs To Hold To Head Higher

One of my best friends experienced much laughs with him during the bear market, same laughing peeps where buying 11-12-13K he had to help them etc

Same people asked today should I sell, what do we have to do etc, read the texts with my own eyes, just to dumb to talk over Cheesy Cheesy
How F***ing retarded can a human be F***

Always doing the opposite as what one should do Roll Eyes
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June 27, 2019, 11:55:50 PM

F*** just realizing i'm maybe a true master my pricePOLL = 10,500-10,999

Only participate on the first two days Wooooooooow gogogo Micg

I hope I’m wrong



My vote is the same as yours, and almost always I am wrong, but this time, it looks like my odds could be pretty good... we have only slightly more than 24 hours before this one is confirmed, right?

Actually, I kind of agree with you in regards for a preference for UP, yet I just cannot get over NOT letting my preferences get in the way of what seems to be more likely which is that we have, at least, a bit more down from here in the short term.. even though we might have both up and down, so who knows if the upper $9ks will play out in about the next 24 critical tm hours?

Every next 24h hours are critical from the moment you write Roll Eyes
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June 27, 2019, 11:58:23 PM

Tend to agree with JJG.  
My vote is the same as yours, and almost always I am wrong

Why can I not give negative merits.

Cause you would mis use them probably Roll Eyes
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June 28, 2019, 12:03:33 AM

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Brightburn was awesome !!!!!!

I didn't think so, as it was just an inverse, complete replica copy of superman, almost to the point where you could predict what would happen next every second of the movie.  The entire movie was derivative in nature and couldn't stand on it's own two feet unless people already knew of the Superman story in the first place.  It was a cheap, Weird Al parody marketed as a serious movie - not exactly the definition of awesome.

Here you are just F***ed up dumb, everyone knows its an superman story gone wrong.... but I liked it cause 16+, I would hate it 12+, cause it just needed some gore scenes etc
We all know stuff is gonna be predictable in this kind of movie, but f*** it was just good for what is was intend to be....
I did like it a lot.

I know its wasn't Stalingrad or something....
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How do you shave your llama sack?
Carefully and using a procedure I learnt from confirmed sources.
so proudhon, confirmed sources says no more cheaper than 11K for 1bitcoin.
Buy some gilettes, shave it properly and join the train  Grin
it's last chance - speak to you @20K on 10th of July, this year
Honestly, this is exactly what I was wanting from yesterday. A new agreed upon base level. We now know what we accept as a fair price for btc (Today), yesterday it was so parabolic that the drop didn't hurt. A thousand plus drop should hurt regardess. Now anything hitting under 11 is hurting. I am happy we now will grow again and have bounce backs.

This is 9k repeating this time with 13k
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June 28, 2019, 12:17:29 AM

Tend to agree with JJG.  
My vote is the same as yours, and almost always I am wrong

Why can I not give negative merits.


Confirmed! ... R0ach is 100% a troll !!! Cheesy Cheesy
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This is 9k repeating this time with 13k
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June 28, 2019, 12:26:21 AM

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Brightburn was awesome !!!!!!

I didn't think so, as it was just an inverse, complete replica copy of superman, almost to the point where you could predict what would happen next every second of the movie.  The entire movie was derivative in nature and couldn't stand on it's own two feet unless people already knew of the Superman story in the first place.  It was a cheap, Weird Al parody marketed as a serious movie - not exactly the definition of awesome.

Here you are just F***ed up dumb, everyone knows its an superman story gone wrong.... but I liked it cause 16+, I would hate it 12+, cause it just needed some gore scenes etc
We all know stuff is gonna be predictable in this kind of movie, but f*** it was just good for what is was intend to be....
I did like it a lot.

I know its wasn't Stalingrad or something....

To say if it's good or not you would have to compare it to something else in the same genre.  I would classify it as more of a horror movie, and it was pretty much garbage compared to other indie-style horror movies like The Descent, REC 1+2, etc.
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June 28, 2019, 12:36:47 AM

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Brightburn was awesome !!!!!!

I didn't think so, as it was just an inverse, complete replica copy of superman, almost to the point where you could predict what would happen next every second of the movie.  The entire movie was derivative in nature and couldn't stand on it's own two feet unless people already knew of the Superman story in the first place.  It was a cheap, Weird Al parody marketed as a serious movie - not exactly the definition of awesome.

Here you are just F***ed up dumb, everyone knows its an superman story gone wrong.... but I liked it cause 16+, I would hate it 12+, cause it just needed some gore scenes etc
We all know stuff is gonna be predictable in this kind of movie, but f*** it was just good for what is was intend to be....
I did like it a lot.

I know its wasn't Stalingrad or something....

To say if it's good or not you would have to compare it to something else in the same genre.  I would classify it as more of a horror movie, and it was pretty much garbage compared to other indie-style horror movies like The Descent, REC 1+2, etc.

The Descent ok, REC not 100% my thing cause hand cam style.... but thats personal taste like Blair Witch also not my style....

And I know Brightburn is classified horror, but I don't 100% see it as Horror...

Just like Dead snow 1&2, Zombieland also awesome brilliant movies, classified as horror but same I don't see them as horror...

For real Horror I do like Texas chainsaw massacre, green inferno, Evil dead (hoping for the sequel) or old school style of Scream/I know what you did last summer... when I was younger (the first ones) etc Halloween, The hills have eyes, the human centipede, Saw  and F*** I probably forgot my top horrors

Also I will never need lecture when it comes to movies, thats really my space Cheesy
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June 28, 2019, 12:42:20 AM
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Hey WO's,

Today I had a class (I teach electronics as a side activity to my main job). We were talking about digital stuff, gates, etc. One thing led to another and we ended up talking about Bitcoin. I felt like Andreas Antonopoulos on stage...

Some statistics:

-- Most students hadn't even heard about Bitcoin, and those few who had were all males, no females knew anything about it. However, the females were very interested, especially when they realised it can be very profitable.

-- The few students that knew about it were mostly misinformed about what it is and how it works.

-- The entire class (about 30 students) was ecstatic. They really wanted to know and understand it. We skipped all breaks, they wanted to stay in the classroom and learn about it.

-- Many of them wanted to buy. Many downloaded wallets on their phones. Some purchased online versions of Andreas Antonopoulos' book.

The entire experience confirmed what I already knew: this thing is just getting started. Young generations are very keen to embrace the new technology, when it is properly presented and explained to them. Not sure if what I did was "appropriate", but it felt right, and I felt glad that my "lecture" may change the lives of some of those guys.

Keep HoDLing!
Sir,

Excellent post. This is what bitcoin is all about. Here, have my first ever spent merit.
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Solid first spend Smiley
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