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January 18, 2024, 06:51:32 PM
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Blackrock iShare Bitcoin Trust ETF has increased their position from $499M to $707M as of 16th January 2024...

Here are some key facts about three full days of trading in the books as of the close of business on Tuesday:
  • net inflows into the spot bitcoin ETF appear to be about 21,000 bitcoin (BTC), or $894 million at the current price of $42,600.
  • BlackRock's iShares Bitcoin Trust (IBIT) leads the way by adding 16,362 bitcoin.
  • Second is Fidelity's Wise Origin Bitcoin Fund (FBTC) with 12,112 bitcoin.
  • Sizable exits from Grayscale's Bitcoin Trust (GBTC), which has lost about 25,000 bitcoin, brought down the overall industry inflow.

https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/01/17/bitcoin-etf-net-inflows-near-1b-after-three-days/

Eh...so, like, is that all? Really?

Small potatoes.

Shit, Elon Musk bought $1.5B worth of BTC all in one go not too long ago.

Just for the Lulz.

These ETF trust guys are amateurs.  Roll Eyes
This is just the beginning, young padawan. If buying spot ETF's stopped there, this statement would make some sense. But it is more than clear that it will not stop. If 5,000 BTC are net bought per day, this makes 500,000 BTC in 100 days, almost as much as Greyscale has. After another 100 days, the reserve of the SB will dry up. I don't know why everyone measures the reserve of exchanges in general, since all ETF's only draw from CB (with one small exception). This means that the effect of the supply shock will be very substantial, significantly greater than the halving. But skeptics who look at the price cannot do this elementary calculation. So I expect this Greyscale flop to lead to a more significant momentary dip below 40K. I hope I'm wrong because I don't have money to buy now. It's clear that Greyscale is trying to milk their customers with this high rate. IMO the majority are not selling for a profit or a smaller loss, but to buy back other ETFs at a lower rate. This will further accelerate the effect of the shock supply. So I expect within 2 months at most, the price will start to recover steadily and grow into the usual exponential bull run.


Not "young"  Wink , and I've learned something important and valuable in my long years:

"Never tell me what you are gonna do, tell me what you have done/accomplished."

So if like you say these Bitcoin ETFs are legit up to 500K btc in 3 months, or even 6 months, then color me impressed....then.

But until then, yawn.
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January 18, 2024, 07:03:18 PM
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Breaking News:

Bitcoin becomes the second largest ETF commodity in the US, surpassing silver.

It will create a shockwave when it becomes number 1 beating gold.

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January 18, 2024, 07:33:11 PM
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No more streaking...Buddy

Not bitcoin, but I found this "weird" snippet:

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-ghostly-radio-station-that-no-one-claims-to-run

What the heck? Bizarro..."the Buzzer", "the Pip" and the "Squeaky Wheel".



I'm of the opinion that it is a canary signal.

* psycodad grabs his old SDR and tunes to 4.625MHz to find out when the world is ending.

It sounds a lot like a combined canary and command channel. I.e. if you hear the buzz, you have reception, all good, carry on.
If the buzz is not there, somebody is blocking/jamming it, use "plan B" (the instructions you got for this situation ahead of time) then.
Otherwise you wait for commands to get active, I assume any commands will be issued either repeatedly or at fixed times (the article doesn't mention that).

But then again, if you're one of the evil super powers, what keeps you from just broadcasting with high power on that frequency a recording of yesterdays buzz to keep the sleepers inactive while you nuke the other evil super power.

Maybe its just a leftover from cold war that they kept running to keep a bunch of spooks in every country busy. I reckon the Russian are experts on the field of wasting opponents resources (i.e. firing $2000 loittering amo toward UKR and watching the other side launching a multi million Patriot SAM shooting it down).

Fascinating nonetheless.



Canary with a cryptographic component.

Ever hear of the soviet doomsday machine?
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Not "young"  Wink , and I've learned something important and valuable in my long years:

"Never tell me what you are gonna do, tell me what you have done/accomplished."

So if like you say these Bitcoin ETFs are legit up to 500K btc in 3 months, or even 6 months, then color me impressed....then.

But until then, yawn.

But you prematurely judge the "ETF trust guys" as amateurs?
Interesting...
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January 18, 2024, 08:29:31 PM
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Here are some key facts about three full days of trading in the books as of the close of business on Tuesday:
  • net inflows into the spot bitcoin ETF appear to be about 21,000 bitcoin (BTC), or $894 million at the current price of $42,600.
  • BlackRock's iShares Bitcoin Trust (IBIT) leads the way by adding 16,362 bitcoin.
  • Second is Fidelity's Wise Origin Bitcoin Fund (FBTC) with 12,112 bitcoin.
  • Sizable exits from Grayscale's Bitcoin Trust (GBTC), which has lost about 25,000 bitcoin, brought down the overall industry inflow.
https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/01/17/bitcoin-etf-net-inflows-near-1b-after-three-days/

Eh...so, like, is that all? Really?

Small potatoes.

Shit, Elon Musk bought $1.5B worth of BTC all in one go not too long ago.

Just for the Lulz.

These ETF trust guys are amateurs.  Roll Eyes

These stats are of 3 days only, with more passing days we will come to know more about the impact of ETF on bitcoin. There is mix reaction about Bitcoin ETF, some says they will take Bitcoin to moon. While many like me are of the view that Bitcoin will go to moon eventually on it own without any external assistance.



Anyone interested in guessing the final product on the right?

Hint: its made from sugarcane

   
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A little reminder...

The ascent starts on Monday the 22nd.

HoDL.
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quick trip through early blockchain analytics, interesting read

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Satoshi Nakamoto, the cryptocurrency’s mysterious and unidentifiable inventor, had stated in an email introducing Bitcoin that “participants can be anonymous.”
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This is the story of the revelation in late 2013 that Bitcoin was, in fact, the opposite of untraceable—that its blockchain would actually allow researchers, tech companies, and law enforcement to trace and identify users with even more transparency than the existing financial system. That discovery would upend the world of cybercrime. Bitcoin tracing would, over the next few years, solve the mystery of the theft of a half-billion dollar stash of bitcoins from the world’s first crypto exchange, help enable the biggest dark-web drug market takedown in history

https://arstechnica.com/features/2024/01/how-a-27-year-old-busted-the-myth-of-bitcoins-anonymity/

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January 18, 2024, 09:09:03 PM
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No more streaking...Buddy

Not bitcoin, but I found this "weird" snippet:

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-ghostly-radio-station-that-no-one-claims-to-run

What the heck? Bizarro..."the Buzzer", "the Pip" and the "Squeaky Wheel".



I'm of the opinion that it is a canary signal.

* psycodad grabs his old SDR and tunes to 4.625MHz to find out when the world is ending.

It sounds a lot like a combined canary and command channel. I.e. if you hear the buzz, you have reception, all good, carry on.
If the buzz is not there, somebody is blocking/jamming it, use "plan B" (the instructions you got for this situation ahead of time) then.
Otherwise you wait for commands to get active, I assume any commands will be issued either repeatedly or at fixed times (the article doesn't mention that).

But then again, if you're one of the evil super powers, what keeps you from just broadcasting with high power on that frequency a recording of yesterdays buzz to keep the sleepers inactive while you nuke the other evil super power.

Maybe its just a leftover from cold war that they kept running to keep a bunch of spooks in every country busy. I reckon the Russian are experts on the field of wasting opponents resources (i.e. firing $2000 loittering amo toward UKR and watching the other side launching a multi million Patriot SAM shooting it down).

Fascinating nonetheless.



Canary with a cryptographic component.

Ever hear of the soviet doomsday machine?

Are you refering to the Sistema Perimetr? If so, no didn't know that and thanks for the pointer.
Sounds quite scary and amazing at the same time. I don't want to even start to try to dig up what the other nuclear powers have in place for uncomfy situations like a decapitation first strike..



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quick trip through early blockchain analytics, interesting read

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Satoshi Nakamoto, the cryptocurrency’s mysterious and unidentifiable inventor, had stated in an email introducing Bitcoin that “participants can be anonymous.”
[...]
This is the story of the revelation in late 2013 that Bitcoin was, in fact, the opposite of untraceable—that its blockchain would actually allow researchers, tech companies, and law enforcement to trace and identify users with even more transparency than the existing financial system. That discovery would upend the world of cybercrime. Bitcoin tracing would, over the next few years, solve the mystery of the theft of a half-billion dollar stash of bitcoins from the world’s first crypto exchange, help enable the biggest dark-web drug market takedown in history

https://arstechnica.com/features/2024/01/how-a-27-year-old-busted-the-myth-of-bitcoins-anonymity/

Well, it's a public ledger, whatever the implications of that may be. If the endpoints are carefully handled, anonymity can be enhanced, but it's not automatic by design, you need to put an effort and be careful in order to prevent your identity from being leaked.
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No more streaking...Buddy

Not bitcoin, but I found this "weird" snippet:

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-ghostly-radio-station-that-no-one-claims-to-run

What the heck? Bizarro..."the Buzzer", "the Pip" and the "Squeaky Wheel".



I'm of the opinion that it is a canary signal.

* psycodad grabs his old SDR and tunes to 4.625MHz to find out when the world is ending.

It sounds a lot like a combined canary and command channel. I.e. if you hear the buzz, you have reception, all good, carry on.
If the buzz is not there, somebody is blocking/jamming it, use "plan B" (the instructions you got for this situation ahead of time) then.
Otherwise you wait for commands to get active, I assume any commands will be issued either repeatedly or at fixed times (the article doesn't mention that).

But then again, if you're one of the evil super powers, what keeps you from just broadcasting with high power on that frequency a recording of yesterdays buzz to keep the sleepers inactive while you nuke the other evil super power.

Maybe its just a leftover from cold war that they kept running to keep a bunch of spooks in every country busy. I reckon the Russian are experts on the field of wasting opponents resources (i.e. firing $2000 loittering amo toward UKR and watching the other side launching a multi million Patriot SAM shooting it down).

Fascinating nonetheless.



Canary with a cryptographic component.

Ever hear of the soviet doomsday machine?

Are you refering to the Sistema Perimetr? If so, no didn't know that and thanks for the pointer.
Sounds quite scary and amazing at the same time. I don't want to even start to try to dig up what the other nuclear powers have in place for uncomfy situations like a decapitation first strike..




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In 1967, the Soviet Union first attempted to create a system, called "Signal", which they could use to create 30 premade orders from their headquarters to the missile units.[2] Although the system still was not completely automatic, their intent was no different.

In the early 1990s, several former high-ranking members of the Soviet military and the Central Committee of the Communist Party, in a series of interviews to the American defense contractor BDM, admitted the existence of the Dead Hand, making somewhat contradictory statements concerning its deployment.[14]
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...wondering if we're not going to re-test $40k at this rate.
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...wondering if we're not going to re-test $40k at this rate.

or 30k  Tongue
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...wondering if we're not going to re-test $40k at this rate.

or 30k  Tongue

Split the difference?
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