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April 19, 2016, 07:48:02 PM

Segwit pull request in main repository -

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7910

April ETA Deadline Met!

I expect Segwit to remove from segnet testnet to the bitcoin testnet this month and enter mainnet early may for activation in June/July depending upon the miners hitting 95%



Yes yes, lets time it to the halfing  Grin

Can see the headlines rolling with something like "BTC block limit solved while BTC is about to get more scares as supply halves"
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April 19, 2016, 08:14:42 PM


Correction: "Maxwell noted, “At least five companies as well as many individuals are actively developing Lightning, and much of the code and development is open in a similar model to Bitcoin.”

Please list the "5 independent companies developing their own versions of the lightning network"
here:
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That's a good point newbie.... Surely it would be nice to get more specificity rather than blanket statements.

For your eyes only(The buttcoiner must overt their eyes as because these facts may harm their narrative)-

First four are in the article ...
    1) Poon, Dryja, Elizabeth Stark , and Olaoluwa Osuntokun - Dryja’s Lightning Network
    2) Rusty Russell - Blockstream's LN implementation
    3) AmikaPay LN implementation
    4) StrawPay  LN implementation

This is the fifth one -
    5) http://thunder.network being developed by  Mats Jerratsch at Blockchain


1. Not a company.
2. Blockstream counted itself as one of the five independent companies?
3. Can't get a single hit on Google.
4. Lol, already implemented, and not Lightning. "Stroem works with the Bitcoin protocol of today and accepts the caveats whereas Lightning doesn’t."
5. https://matsjj.github.io/ is not a company.

In short, not a single independent company in your list. Did you think no one would check?
Please feel free to try again. It won't cost you nothin' Smiley
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April 19, 2016, 08:33:10 PM

Forked-tongue lying Stolfi is back to spread his particularly toxic brand of divisive misinformation I see ... not enough corruption in Brazil to keep the anti-ponzi buster busy? His lies about Blockstream's actions and motivations around segwit are very insidious, evil and divisive, believe him at your financial cost.

Someone needs to inform the Brazialian tax-payers how much time an academic on their payroll is spending on internet forums spreading lies for banksters.
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April 19, 2016, 08:36:36 PM



Buy. Now.
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April 19, 2016, 08:46:37 PM

chinese cartel in action. preventing a price above 2793-2795 to avoid new miners coming into the game. seems the have tons of bitcoins available.

https://snag.gy/4tpVj5

Hmm... I was counting on a Chinese pump to break above 2820 CNY within 2 days. If this won't happen, then the market will have made a lower high,
and then probably a lower low, which means a downtrend will become apparent.

IMO the point is to get the most out of Bitcoin until the halving event. no new miners allowed until then.

Interesting theory.

My guess is that the price will stay flat for a hell of a lot longer. There is still along time to go before the  halving and not much news to get people panic buying or selling. Once we get to the halving we should get some big price movement.
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April 19, 2016, 09:05:40 PM

it needs to go to ~2850 to trigger some short calls.
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Last edit: April 19, 2016, 09:18:51 PM by whored

Forked-tongue lying Stolfi is back to spread his particularly toxic brand of divisive misinformation I see ... not enough corruption in Brazil to keep the anti-ponzi buster busy? His lies about Blockstream's actions and motivations around segwit are very insidious, evil and divisive, believe him at your financial cost.

Someone needs to inform the Brazialian tax-payers how much time an academic on their payroll is spending on internet forums spreading lies for banksters.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Pretending to hate someone you love is a horribly faulty defense mechanism, Marcus, that's what little girls do. It's the 21st century, just tell him! But these shifts from closeted flirtation to protestation? Nauseating to watch.
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April 19, 2016, 09:44:11 PM

Last July there was a 6-block reorganization of the blockchain, the third largest in bitcoin's history.  It was caused by a blocthed soft fork.

Nope, It was caused by SPV mining which is insecure and at minimum ill advised.

Sigh, I have had this discussion before, won't get into it again.  "The staircase did not collapse because it was badly designed, but because two fat people walked on it at once."

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Hard forks are not more dangerous than soft-forks.  One can argue that they in fact safer, because they must be executed openly and be accepted in advance by a large segment of the users.  

While we may disagree with the intrinsic dangers one can compare between HF and SF's from a technical perspective, I can also add that it is a fantastic precedent that we are making HF's rare and difficult to accomplish from a "governance" perspective. soft forks which allow upgrading without throwing old users/software/Hardware off the network is a fantastic precedence.

I could point out again that soft forks put the decision in the hands of FEWER people (as few as three miners in China).  But it does not matter: whether they are safe or not, the community cannot prevent soft forks from hppening.

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It is extremely re-assuring that a buttcoiner who hates bitcoin* is so angry at the direction we are headed. We should all be bullish.   ...  *it is pretty easy to verify you get sadistic pleasure off of attacking bitcoin on the buttcoin subreddit.

If and when the Core plans fail, it will be much more satisfying if they fail for the reasons that I and others have pointed out.  Grin

[Hard forks] are more dangerous if there is disagreement regarding their implementation, and they are more dangerous if they attempt to change bitcoin's governance in order to make changes (consensus rules) easier to achieve.

Bitcoin cannot have a "governance".  If you do not understand that, then you don't understand the only thing that justifies its existence.

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You keep going back over the point to argue against something that is not controverted, and it does not really matter, at this point how complicated it is, etc. etc.. because it is already in the pipeline to be implemented ...

I have no illusions of stopping SegWit.  It is quite obvious already that no amount of technical argument from us idiots will change Greg Maxwell's mind once he made it up.   Grin

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FUCD 

Er, I must have slept through that too.  What is the "C" in "FUCD"?


"secured by a network with 1.5 PH/s of mining power" .... LOL, really? Have you been asleep for the last 3 years Stolfi?

Sorry, I was half asleep when I typed that. It should have been 1500 PH/s of course.
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April 19, 2016, 09:51:30 PM

Forked-tongue lying Stolfi is back to spread his particularly toxic brand of divisive misinformation I see ... not enough corruption in Brazil to keep the anti-ponzi buster busy?  [ ... ] Someone needs to inform the Brazialian tax-payers how much time an academic on their payroll is spending on internet forums spreading lies for banksters.

Curious that you say that, since the Brazilian bankers are among the biggest corrupters here, and they have been spear-heading the move to get Dilma impeached -- because she dared to try lowering the prime interest rate, that defines how much of taxpayers money will go to them banks. (It was ~60% last time I checked.)
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April 19, 2016, 09:59:09 PM

Core open for hugging with Lightning.

http://coredev.tech/nextmeeting.html
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April 19, 2016, 10:53:53 PM

Get ready for it bears...

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April 19, 2016, 11:07:27 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgHYGw9OL7c

We are Go for launch.
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April 19, 2016, 11:08:44 PM


RUN!!
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April 19, 2016, 11:09:09 PM

shorts are going to get triggered soon
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April 19, 2016, 11:10:23 PM

shorts are going to get triggered soon

are there still shorts left? at least in this thread they are gone since the runup to 500
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April 19, 2016, 11:11:00 PM

The price is, like, moving. What the hell is going on here? I think my computer must be broken.
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April 19, 2016, 11:12:39 PM

margin call time.

460 range a lot of ppl will get seriously rekt
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April 19, 2016, 11:13:50 PM

Ascension is imminent boys and girls.




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April 19, 2016, 11:14:29 PM

Is this the big one?
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April 19, 2016, 11:14:31 PM


could very well be the start of a little halving rally. just 2 months away.
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