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April 27, 2016, 12:52:50 PM

well,
going to pd to "recover" losees

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April 27, 2016, 12:53:20 PM

LMAO! Grin Grin Grin

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April 27, 2016, 12:56:01 PM

Yes, that's called a shake out, unless you believe people actually sell Bitcoins in that manner (on the run up to the halving no less).  The morons in China wanted to try and get rid of as many longs as possible before pumping, but they're all just going to pile back in anyway, so it was completely pointless.
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April 27, 2016, 01:01:04 PM

recovering from that drop already
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April 27, 2016, 01:02:47 PM

Well, I said apart from derivatives and bonds (I was trying to be helpful, honest), so I can't accept "government bonds" as an answer (I hope you'd realise that they're just a specific form of bond). No, I'm not suggesting that fixed income funds trade currencies (though obviously they will), I'm saying they hold currencies as an investment for their clients.
[1] Can you point me in the right direction? I've tried to find evidence to support thiis calim, and came up with ...zilch.
[2] The Complete Idiot's Guide to Investing Investopedia tells me of possible ways to "invest" in currencies. Please tell me which fits best what you're suggesting fixed rate funds do:
-Standard Trading Account (trading)
-ETF/ETN (trade currency without Forex account)
-CDs & Savings Accounts (money in the bank)
-Foreign Bond Funds (Not_your_own Government bonds)
-Multinational Corporations ("indirectly participate in the foreign currency markets through their ownership in companies that do significant business in foreign countries." Rube Goldberg's favorite, and "5 Ways To Invest In Currencies" sounds so much better that "4 Ways..."

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Fixed income traditionally was investments for "widows and orphans" - low risk, cash and bonds, in a pre-derivative era. So that's BTC investors, widows and orphans now - you want to tell them their investment isn't an investment, or shall I?
Investments for "widows and orphans" sounds like some sort of a nasty bitcoiner thing where everyone gets raped and then the streets flow with tears and snot. If you're talking about IRL safe investments, "Good as government bonds" is proverbial Smiley

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Doen's become you. Don't.



[1] Links in previous post, surprised you "missed" them. Here's Schwab again:

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Schwab and Schwab Bank offer a wide selection of cash and cash investment solutions.

Barclays offer the same. A quick google for "cash" and "invest" should open up a whole new world to you. Hell, while you're at it, google "traditional investments". (They're all - IMO - poor investments, before you get your panties knotted, but see [3] below).

[2] You probably want to avoid Investopedia, it's a resource for lay-people with minimal experience. Entry-level stuff. You should also probably realise that I wasn't talking about fixed income funds. (Go back, re-read my posts - I'll wait).

[3] We're not talking about safe investments, good investments or bad investments. Remember - we're talking about your belief that "you invest with money, not in money". Your hobbies are not relevant here.

[4] Tell me what will and won't result in your butt being hurted, and I'll do my best to accommodate.


[1] This is what Schwab is offering (from your link, point by point):

-Cash pending investment is available to invest immediately without risk of delay in having to transfer money or liquidate a current position to settle trades.

    The Schwab One® Interest feature
allows you to earn interest on your uninvested cash.
(self-explanatory; not even claiming to be an investment)

-Everyday cash and cash investments are for day-to-day or monthly recurring expenses such as bills.

    If you value FDIC insurance, a competitive yield, and a range of features such as bill pay, checkwriting, and debit cards, a Schwab Bank High Yield Investor Checking® account may be right for you.

(FDIC insured, lets you write checks and use a debit card. pay bills. Sounds familiar? It should: It's called a bank account)

-Longer-term cash can be part of your strategic asset allocation to reduce portfolio risk. It can also be used to meet known obligations, typically those coming due in more than a month.
(CDs from other banks, invest in Schwab Money Market Fund*, and  Schwab Bank High Yield Investor Savings® -- a variable-rate bank account.

In short, nothing here is an investment in money. Nothing. Those banksters fooled you without even trying.

[2] I don't want to avoid Investopedia because, like yourself, I'm the furthest thing from an investment professional. The only difference between us is I know that I'm clueless while you ...well, you are the embodiment of the Dunning–Kruger effect.
That's what gets you into trouble, LBGTA Sad

[3]You bet. You do ""invest with money, not in money." Or, rather, I do. You're still trying, so, I suppose, technically you are. Why split semantical asshairs and burst such beautiful delusions of purpose and competence, amirite?

[4]Way to ignore my excelent advice Sad


*I can understand how the name could mislead a pro such as yourself. Perhaps counterintuitively, "money market fund" does not mean "a fund investing in money."
From the horse's mouth: "Schwab’s money market funds invest exclusively in dollar-denominated, high-quality, short-term instruments, including but not limited to securities issued by the federal government, corporations, municipalities, and banks".
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April 27, 2016, 01:05:34 PM

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April 27, 2016, 01:09:43 PM

Look at the state of the posters mocking a 10 USD drop.

WUT you gonna do when we fly into the 700's after the halving?
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April 27, 2016, 01:12:46 PM

Look at the state of the posters mocking a 10 USD drop.

WUT you gonna do when we fly into the 700's after the halving?

Same thing I'll do when pigs start to fly: do more drugs if I find it amusing; less if I do not.
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April 27, 2016, 01:14:03 PM

Look at the state of the posters mocking a 10 USD drop.

WUT you gonna do when we fly into the 700's after the halving?

Same thing I'll do when pigs start to fly: do more drugs if I find it amusing; less if I do not.

still wasting day after day on here, imagining you contribute in anyway I see
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April 27, 2016, 01:14:39 PM

Yeah! My buy limit orders went through , time to wire more fiat for another round of buys. These shakeouts don't scare veterans who have been riding the rollercoaster for some time, just another buying opportunity.
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April 27, 2016, 01:14:47 PM

From the horse's mouth: "Schwab’s money market funds invest exclusively in dollar-denominated, high-quality, short-term instruments, including but not limited to securities issued by the federal government, corporations, municipalities, and banks".

I don't think you will find many buyers for Jewish banker pyramid schemes on here.
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April 27, 2016, 01:16:31 PM

...whorbling snipped...

Good good. And when you googled "traditional investments", what did you find? What did those other results from you googling "cash"+"invest" return?

(Incidentally, and this doesn't bother me but it does surprise me[1] - why do you make so many assumptions about things? I'm not bothering to challenge them because it really doesn't matter, and it'll just drag out a tedious process even more, but I'm genuinely curious. It's great you think I'm a pro, though.)

[1] It doesn't really.
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April 27, 2016, 01:19:57 PM

There should be a way to ignore discussions between two people in a thread.
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April 27, 2016, 01:20:49 PM

Yeah! My buy limit orders went through , time to wire more fiat for another round of buys. These shakeouts don't scare veterans who have been riding the rollercoaster for some time, just another buying opportunity.
My guess is we'll see a second round of dumping, and since I am not going to act on this suspicion, it is bound to become reality.
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April 27, 2016, 01:22:13 PM

From the horse's mouth: "Schwab’s money market funds invest exclusively in dollar-denominated, high-quality, short-term instruments, including but not limited to securities issued by the federal government, corporations, municipalities, and banks".

I don't think you will find many buyers for Jewish banker pyramid schemes on here.

You don't understand, friend cockroach (what else is new, amirite?)
I'm not offering you any of my shekels, just educating your bitcon comrade. LBGTA is the one who thinks investing in monyz is a thing. Crazy as a bedbug another annoying household pest he is Cheesy

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April 27, 2016, 01:22:24 PM

There should be a way to ignore discussions between two people in a thread.

Yeah, I'm sorry. I'll stop.
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April 27, 2016, 01:23:24 PM


467 resistance was too strong, at least this time  Wink


Probably it is healthy to get a correction before passing more solidly into the $470s... It seems that we had more than $40 upwards without any meaningful correction.

Now, let's see how many days... or maybe hours, it will take to return to the $467 and whether there is a break through, this time?
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April 27, 2016, 01:26:34 PM

Yeah! My buy limit orders went through , time to wire more fiat for another round of buys. These shakeouts don't scare veterans who have been riding the rollercoaster for some time, just another buying opportunity.
My guess is we'll see a second round of dumping, and since I am not going to act on this suspicion, it is bound to become reality.

I don't need to waste any calories guessing. The beauty about a long term perspective is you don't concern yourself with the daily ups and downs, you don't get emotional, simply load in more fiat and set the buy limit for 2-5% below current price and wait for the next shakeout. Rinse and repeat. Smart investors will be doing this aggressively for anything below 1200 USD... It is all dirt cheap now!
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April 27, 2016, 01:28:35 PM

Yeah! My buy limit orders went through , time to wire more fiat for another round of buys. These shakeouts don't scare veterans who have been riding the rollercoaster for some time, just another buying opportunity.
My guess is we'll see a second round of dumping, and since I am not going to act on this suspicion, it is bound to become reality.

That's exactly how it works!  Cheesy
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