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[yefi]

@yefi, The UK may have committed 'an act of economic self-harm with global ramifications'

No need to run away from home just to hurt your father

It is an act of self-harm economically speaking, but so what? This little ship has set sail, and telling the shadow of your son the same arguments won't bring him back.

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[InternationalBankAlliance]

Right, so since we're on topic how many gun related deaths happen in US and how many in France?  

Banning cars could markedly reduce the incidence of death by vehicle. But beware, someone might still be able to buy a multi-tonne missile (car) on the black market tho.

Personal liberty and responsibility has its blood price. Same for the lack thereof.

If cars were specifically designed to kill people, as guns are, how long do you think it would take for them to get banned?

That said, cars are one of the most highly regulated consumer goods in US. One needs a license to operate a car, the car itself must have a valid vin & be registered, inspected yearly, and, in most places, insured. The car must comply with all sorts of DOT regulations (safety equipment, emissions, etc.), and draconian traffic laws (speed limits, can't drive drugged/drunk, can't run stop signs, etc.).

I love both cars and guns to bits, and don't mind ridiculous analogies, but let's be real here.
*The volume is rather disappointing. We have only so much time to capitalize on brexit, and that window is closing fast.

@yefi, The UK may have committed 'an act of economic self-harm with global ramifications'

No need to run away from home just to hurt your father

1. Guns are far more often used to kill food.
2. Non of those vehicle regulations apply to farm-use vehicles.  They only come into play if you want to take you vehicle onto public roads.

1. What do you hunt with a handgun? Or an AR, which is what's being discussed here? No one is trying to regulate shotguns or hunting rifles.
2. Farm-use vehicles are used to make food. Think shotgun, which I could buy in many states by walking into a store and showing my ID.
I can also buy an AR by simply walking into a store and showing my ID.

@yefi, well yeah, self-harm is like that, you can't bring back suicides. I guess that's a win in your book?

[shmadz]

That fissure was less than a 4 % margin. Their currency dropped by 10 % in the first day. How much stomach will they have if it drops another ten percent?

I don't know what's going to happen, but I would be surprised if *they* let Britain leave without a fight.

The only they trying to stop Britain leaving without a fight are the naive.

Britain isn't going to keep rerunning the referendum like some banana republic, and there is no political will in the establishment of this country to undo this. Most of the ruling Conservatives are Eurosceptics for a start, and to engage in some civil war with the working classes would do a lot more harm to this country than whatever the markets can inflict.

I would like for you to be right, but those naive social justice warriors are merely the tool that *they* use to push *their* agenda. *They* have no concern for the harm that comes from this. In fact, civil war would just be step one in the classic playbook, getting the ball rolling towards another world war.

It's not like this hasn't been done before.

"But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it."

[notme]

Right, so since we're on topic how many gun related deaths happen in US and how many in France?  

Banning cars could markedly reduce the incidence of death by vehicle. But beware, someone might still be able to buy a multi-tonne missile (car) on the black market tho.

Personal liberty and responsibility has its blood price. Same for the lack thereof.

If cars were specifically designed to kill people, as guns are, how long do you think it would take for them to get banned?

That said, cars are one of the most highly regulated consumer goods in US. One needs a license to operate a car, the car itself must have a valid vin & be registered, inspected yearly, and, in most places, insured. The car must comply with all sorts of DOT regulations (safety equipment, emissions, etc.), and draconian traffic laws (speed limits, can't drive drugged/drunk, can't run stop signs, etc.).

I love both cars and guns to bits, and don't mind ridiculous analogies, but let's be real here.
*The volume is rather disappointing. We have only so much time to capitalize on brexit, and that window is closing fast.

@yefi, The UK may have committed 'an act of economic self-harm with global ramifications'

No need to run away from home just to hurt your father

1. Guns are far more often used to kill food.
2. Non of those vehicle regulations apply to farm-use vehicles.  They only come into play if you want to take you vehicle onto public roads.

1. What do you hunt with a handgun? Or an AR, which is what's being discussed here? No one is trying to regulate shotguns or hunting rifles.
2. Farm-use vehicles are used to make food. Think shotgun, which I could buy in many states by walking into a store and showing my ID.
I can also buy an AR by simply walking into a store and showing my ID.

@yefi, well yeah, self-harm is like that, you can't bring back suicides. I guess that's a win in your book?

Well than talk about assault rifles, not guns.  There was no mention of AR15s or assault rifles in to post I was replying to.  You'll have much better luck if you don't lump all guns together.

[InternationalBankAlliance]

Right, so since we're on topic how many gun related deaths happen in US and how many in France?  

Banning cars could markedly reduce the incidence of death by vehicle. But beware, someone might still be able to buy a multi-tonne missile (car) on the black market tho.

Personal liberty and responsibility has its blood price. Same for the lack thereof.

If cars were specifically designed to kill people, as guns are, how long do you think it would take for them to get banned?

That said, cars are one of the most highly regulated consumer goods in US. One needs a license to operate a car, the car itself must have a valid vin & be registered, inspected yearly, and, in most places, insured. The car must comply with all sorts of DOT regulations (safety equipment, emissions, etc.), and draconian traffic laws (speed limits, can't drive drugged/drunk, can't run stop signs, etc.).

I love both cars and guns to bits, and don't mind ridiculous analogies, but let's be real here.
*The volume is rather disappointing. We have only so much time to capitalize on brexit, and that window is closing fast.

@yefi, The UK may have committed 'an act of economic self-harm with global ramifications'

No need to run away from home just to hurt your father

1. Guns are far more often used to kill food.
2. Non of those vehicle regulations apply to farm-use vehicles.  They only come into play if you want to take you vehicle onto public roads.

1. What do you hunt with a handgun? Or an AR, which is what's being discussed here? No one is trying to regulate shotguns or hunting rifles.
2. Farm-use vehicles are used to make food. Think shotgun, which I could buy in many states by walking into a store and showing my ID.
I can also buy an AR by simply walking into a store and showing my ID.

@yefi, well yeah, self-harm is like that, you can't bring back suicides. I guess that's a win in your book?

Well than talk about assault rifles, not guns.  There was no mention of AR15s or assault rifles in to post I was replying to.  You'll have much better luck if you don't lump all guns together.

Ah, sorry, this is the context:

Fortunately , some of my comrades are helping swing these number up by selling thousands of "gun factories"
which make it impossible to really know how many unserialized AR15s are in texas and worldwide.

Great company and people(and they sometimes depend upon bitcoin because constantly have merchant processing problems) -

https://ghostgunner.net/ 
https://defdist.org/

TL;DR: Unregistered, untraceable, and grossly overpriced AR lowers for neckbeards who can't even walk out into the fresh air & hang out in a gun show parking lot for, like, an hour, to save themselves a grand.

[savetherainforest]

Price still sitting at $680. I hope that $600 can act as a solid bottom, it sucked going back to 500's.

Look on those charts I posted compared with the 2013 bubble... it is the same thing! History is repeating itself! .. Like a broken record! It is safe to sell between $1350+ ... But I advice you to keep an eye on $1600 - 1800$ ... it will fluctuate probably around that margin considering those 2.000 Billion / 2 Trillion being somewhere out there... even 0.1% of that would be madness. And depending how the crisis evolves!

I assume you are [censored]

Merde! ... Grrrr.... damn you french scavenger rat troglodyte spies everywhere!!! Digging trough the trash... You know If ... I delete my posts you will have a hard time figuring that one out... considering my chaotic post times!

[Bavaria]

Price still sitting at $680. I hope that $600 can act as a solid bottom, it sucked going back to 500's.

Look on those charts I posted compared with the 2013 bubble... it is the same thing! History is repeating itself! .. Like a broken record! It is safe to sell between $1350+ ... But I advice you to keep an eye on $1600 - 1800$ ... it will fluctuate probably around that margin considering those 2.000 Billion / 2 Trillion being somewhere out there... even 0.1% of that would be madness. And depending how the crisis evolves!

I assume you are [censored]

Merde! ... Grrrr.... damn you french scavenger rat troglodyte spies everywhere!!! Digging trough the trash... You know If ... I delete my posts you will have a hard time figuring that one out... considering my chaotic post times!

About which chart are you talking about? Can you post it here?

[savetherainforest]

^Wow, that explains everything! I love you gypsies! Beautiful people, you just gotta ease up on all that thievery.

I have no idea what you are talking about... I haven't seen one of those in weeks or months. They probably all scattered around Europe.

And I'm kinda blonde.... So... Long live the Aryan race!



We have laws here that kinda persecute them. Prisons are full of them. We would really like Europe to back off with all that human rights bullsh!t! We need more persecution of them beggars!

[JimboToronto]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Forming a nice point around $680.



Hopefully this breaks upward soon.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Every day that passes that bitcoin continues to exist lends proof to the concept that decentralized money is possible.

The control of money is the most direct form of control of people.

The Reddit is on about this new consortium of Chinese miners. In theory, if they collectively decided to blacklist transactions, how possible would it be to mine them yourself?

Edit: or better still, if the transaction was so odious that the entire BTC community, top to bottom, refused to mine them.

I guess a solo miner couldn't mine a block, so some pool would have to agree to not censor it. Isn't it?

No, it is not feasible to solo mine a block. It's possible, but you'd have no way of knowing when, if ever, that block would happen.

The theory is that markets would take care of this problem. A certain subset of pools would agree to mine these "odious" transactions, for a substantially higher fee. As the block reward continues to drop, these pools would be creating far more profit than pools that don't accept these high fee transition, which would lure more miners to switch pools, which is a further dis-incentive to blacklist these highly profitable transactions.

That is all just hypothetical of course, and there is work being done to improve censorship resistance:

https://petertodd.org/2016/closed-seal-sets-and-truth-lists-for-privacy
"Our goal here is to combat censorship by ensuring that miners do not have the information needed to selectively censor (blacklist) transactions"

Good answer. Thanks.

[savetherainforest]

About which chart are you talking about? Can you post it here?

Then:                                                                                                                                               Now:







*Edit: One of those scenarios... or a combination of them lines between each other.

[savetherainforest]

And you're really kinda blonde?

I look something like that guy... (4realz!)

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

I approve of this. If the world needs anything, it's more persecutions, not less. It's simple math, really.

[SnokkomBTC]

ok, dead cat bounce

[savetherainforest]

Right.
So when you go to the big city to steal, do you leave you colorful gypsy caravan on the outskirts or something, and just walk in? Who feeds your horse?
Or does your mare know how to steal for herself?
And you're really kinda blonde? Albino, you mean? I might've seen you in one of those gypsy documentaries.

I look something like that guy... (4realz!)
[img ]https://i.imgur.com/xT8NAe3.jpg[/img]

That's so cool! And the other gypsies don't make fun of you for being an albino?
BlindMayorBitcorn, you mean the other gypsies persecute him just because he's different?

P.S. please answer re. feeding your horse.
P.P.S. I don't mean you, BlindMayorBitcorn, I know you don't have a horse. I'm asking savetherainforest.
P.P.P.S. Did you see Time Of The Gypsies? It's such a beautiful movie about you people!
P.P.P.P.S. Unless you think it unjustly stereotypes you, in which case it's not beautiful at all, it's just wrong.

Here... I found a link for you to feast your eyes!    >>>   Link!!!

[PigUsher]

That healthy retrace tho. Just keeps getting healthier...

[bitjanja]

DUMP TIME

[InternationalBankAlliance]

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[MinermanNC]

Who or what is pulling the rug out from under btc now  

Was moving along just fine an hour ago....

[JimboToronto]

Oh noes. We're back at yesterday's price again.

The sky is falling. Dump everything and buy something centralized.