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[JayJuanGee]

Yup. I was wrong. SegWit has cut a deal with BU. We are going to fork. RIP.

everyone hates Segwit2mb

yet there's what, 30% signaling for it?

or am i mistaken?

I assumed what york meant when he said SegWit has cut a deal with BU was the  Segwit SF + 2MB HF (Segwit2MB) being proposed. this will produce a Effective 8MB block weight.

everyone hates it.

20MB everyone hates it.
8MB everyone hates it.
BIP101 everyone hates it.
2MB HF everyone hates it.
Segwit everyone hates it.
BU everyone hates it.
UASF everyone hates it.
Segwit2MB everyone hates it.

Why has no one suggested lowering the block size??  Maybe that one will get unanimous support.

Luke did sugest that

guess what... EVERYONE HATES IT! 

Lowering the blocksize limit is nearly as dumb as raising the blocksize limit (and maybe even more dumber). 

Even if a smaller blocksize limit could be preferable, there is a certain amount of risk that comes with any change, even if the change happens to be preferable.   

[JayJuanGee]

"everyone hates segwit"?

nah mate.

ok segwit has the most "consensus", not everyone hates it, some poeple love it, but its not like it isn't contentious for a large %, if that wasn't true why would there be all this controversy... 

The mere fact that there is controversy does not mean that the controversy is valid.

If you got a bunch of nutjob shills that are able to convince others to whine about a bunch of stuff that seems to make sense (but really does not make sense) based on a bunch of misinformation, that still does not make the astro-turf controversy valid.

[Killerpotleaf]

Lowering the blocksize limit is nearly as dumb as raising the blocksize limit (and maybe even more dumber). 
Even if a smaller blocksize limit could be preferable, there is a certain amount of risk that comes with any change, even if the change happens to be preferable.   

no risk no reward.

bitcoin will fail if its unwilling to take any risks as it upgrades.

because there are 1000's of others perfectly willing to take on HUGE risks and try totally nutty things. and while most of them will fail, some won't.

[JayJuanGee]

Lowering the blocksize limit is nearly as dumb as raising the blocksize limit (and maybe even more dumber). 
Even if a smaller blocksize limit could be preferable, there is a certain amount of risk that comes with any change, even if the change happens to be preferable.   

no risk no reward.

bitcoin will fail if its unwilling to take any risks as it upgrades.

because there are 1000's of others perfectly willing to take on HUGE risks and try totally nutty things. and while most of them will fail, some won't.

Adam.  I like you and everything.  But you got this matter all wrong in your head if you believe that bitcoin needs to be able to adapt with the times.

Bitcoin is solid, "as is", and you do not want it to be easily changeable.  If bitcoin is easily changeable, then that means people can change it .. and who are those fucking people going to be?  NOT regular people or geeks.  They are going to be rich people, banksters and the ones who you do not want changing everything because they already screwed things up already.. and that's why we got our little friend bitcoin .. it is called decentralized and not easy to change (which is another way of saying immutable)... so let's try to keep this thingie-ma-jiggie censorship resistant, and not easy to change.

Regarding those 1,000 of others, let them change all the fuck they want.  The are not bitcoin, they are some centralized bank wanna be... and bitcoin is going to win the day in the end, especially if it continues to be difficult to change... and especially with already having a solid foundation.

[Killerpotleaf]

"everyone hates segwit"?

nah mate.

ok segwit has the most "consensus", not everyone hates it, some poeple love it, but its not like it isn't contentious for a large %, if that wasn't true why would there be all this controversy...  

The mere fact that there is controversy does not mean that the controversy is valid.

If you got a bunch of nutjob shills that are able to convince others to whine about a bunch of stuff that seems to make sense (but really does not make sense) based on a bunch of misinformation, that still does not make the astro-turf controversy valid.

and, just because somthing is contentious doesn't mean it isn't valid.

BU:


Classic:


Core:


which will the market value mostest

[Killerpotleaf]

Lowering the blocksize limit is nearly as dumb as raising the blocksize limit (and maybe even more dumber). 
Even if a smaller blocksize limit could be preferable, there is a certain amount of risk that comes with any change, even if the change happens to be preferable.   

no risk no reward.

bitcoin will fail if its unwilling to take any risks as it upgrades.

because there are 1000's of others perfectly willing to take on HUGE risks and try totally nutty things. and while most of them will fail, some won't.

Adam.  I like you and everything.  But you got this matter all wrong in your head if you believe that bitcoin needs to be able to adapt with the times.

Bitcoin is solid, "as is", and you do not want it to be easily changeable.  If bitcoin is easily changeable, then that means people can change it .. and who are those fucking people going to be?  NOT regular people or geeks.  They are going to be rich people, banksters and the ones who you do not want changing everything because they already screwed things up already.. and that's why we got our little friend bitcoin .. it is called decentralized and not easy to change (which is another way of saying immutable)... so let's try to keep this thingie-ma-jiggie censorship resistant, and not easy to change.

Regarding those 1,000 of others, let them change all the fuck they want.  The are not bitcoin, they are some centralized bank wanna be... and bitcoin is going to win the day in the end, especially if it continues to be difficult to change... and especially with already having a solid foundation.

i disagree...

i think bitcoin has become to hard to change and its going to die if we dont fix this soon!

we need a Bitcoin CEO! 



now i'm just trolling...

[JayJuanGee]

"everyone hates segwit"?

nah mate.

ok segwit has the most "consensus", not everyone hates it, some poeple love it, but its not like it isn't contentious for a large %, if that wasn't true why would there be all this controversy...  

The mere fact that there is controversy does not mean that the controversy is valid.

If you got a bunch of nutjob shills that are able to convince others to whine about a bunch of stuff that seems to make sense (but really does not make sense) based on a bunch of misinformation, that still does not make the astro-turf controversy valid.

and, just because somthing is contentious doesn't mean it isn't valid.

BU:


Classic:


Core:


which will the market value mostest

Your points in this post are so stupid ass that they are nearly funny.


Just trying to wrap my head around the pictures causes delusional sensations.  

[JayJuanGee]

Lowering the blocksize limit is nearly as dumb as raising the blocksize limit (and maybe even more dumber). 
Even if a smaller blocksize limit could be preferable, there is a certain amount of risk that comes with any change, even if the change happens to be preferable.   

no risk no reward.

bitcoin will fail if its unwilling to take any risks as it upgrades.

because there are 1000's of others perfectly willing to take on HUGE risks and try totally nutty things. and while most of them will fail, some won't.

Adam.  I like you and everything.  But you got this matter all wrong in your head if you believe that bitcoin needs to be able to adapt with the times.

Bitcoin is solid, "as is", and you do not want it to be easily changeable.  If bitcoin is easily changeable, then that means people can change it .. and who are those fucking people going to be?  NOT regular people or geeks.  They are going to be rich people, banksters and the ones who you do not want changing everything because they already screwed things up already.. and that's why we got our little friend bitcoin .. it is called decentralized and not easy to change (which is another way of saying immutable)... so let's try to keep this thingie-ma-jiggie censorship resistant, and not easy to change.

Regarding those 1,000 of others, let them change all the fuck they want.  The are not bitcoin, they are some centralized bank wanna be... and bitcoin is going to win the day in the end, especially if it continues to be difficult to change... and especially with already having a solid foundation.

i disagree...

i think bitcoin has become to hard to change and its going to die if we dont fix this soon!

In order to arrive at your above conclusion, you have to begin with the premise that bitcoin is broken...

And, you know what?  your premise is wrong.  Bitcoin is not broken. 

Even if bitcoin stays the same forever, bitcoin is still going to have considerable value, "as is"

We all know that there is way too much interest in bitcoin, and it is NOT going to stay the same forever, but the idea remains the same, bitcoin is not broken in its current state... contrary to the various assertions of the FUDsters - including KillerPot   

[numismatist]

Kraken showing weakest tendencies during last day. That's a small marker where the support is strongest at the moment, or not since Kraken is mostly the EUR gateway into BTC. You can watch BTCe to get a sense of RUB interests.
"Reading" fakevolume CNY sites I have given up on.

[Killerpotleaf]

Kraken showing weakest tendencies during last day. That's a small marker where the support is strongest at the moment, or not since Kraken is mostly the EUR gateway into BTC. You can watch BTCe to get a sense of RUB interests.
"Reading" fakevolume CNY sites I have given up on.

fuck chain watch japan.

[york780]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

[bitjanja]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

[york780]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

Thats right. The small minority of 00,0000001% thats not saying crap includes me. Lots of people are looking at them like they are nobody. I think that your message doesnt have any added value to this discussion. Go home and get your shinebox. Nobody cares.

[stereotype]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

Thats right. The small minority of 00,0000001% thats not saying crap includes me. Lots of people are looking at them like they are nobody. I think that your message doesnt have any added value to this discussion. Go home and get your shinebox. Nobody cares.

Thats probably the point he was making. 

[york780]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

Thats right. The small minority of 00,0000001% thats not saying crap includes me. Lots of people are looking at them like they are nobody. I think that your message doesnt have any added value to this discussion. Go home and get your shinebox. Nobody cares.

Thats probably the point he was making. 

He is making some ''points'' and i keep on winning. Seems fair to me. He must be fun at parties, i couldnt care less.

[droizs]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

Thats right. The small minority of 00,0000001% thats not saying crap includes me. Lots of people are looking at them like they are nobody. I think that your message doesnt have any added value to this discussion. Go home and get your shinebox. Nobody cares.

Thats probably the point he was making. 

He is making some ''points'' and i keep on winning. Seems fair to me. He must be fun at parties, i couldnt care less.

Dude... You're trying too hard, slow down

[york780]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

Thats right. The small minority of 00,0000001% thats not saying crap includes me. Lots of people are looking at them like they are nobody. I think that your message doesnt have any added value to this discussion. Go home and get your shinebox. Nobody cares.

Thats probably the point he was making. 

He is making some ''points'' and i keep on winning. Seems fair to me. He must be fun at parties, i couldnt care less.

Dude... You're trying too hard, slow down

You cant try too hard. Just push furhter.

[r0ach]

When you become a stone cold trading psycho, that's when the real profits roll in.

[york780]

When you become a stone cold trading psycho, that's when the real profits roll in.

[Unacceptable]

"everyone hates segwit"?

nah mate.

ok segwit has the most "consensus", not everyone hates it, some poeple love it, but its not like it isn't contentious for a large %, if that wasn't true why would there be all this controversy...  

The mere fact that there is controversy does not mean that the controversy is valid.

If you got a bunch of nutjob shills that are able to convince others to whine about a bunch of stuff that seems to make sense (but really does not make sense) based on a bunch of misinformation, that still does not make the astro-turf controversy valid.

Bullshit,what we have here is:



By the way Jay,in case you didn't notice BITCOIN IS ALREADY CENTRALIZED!!!!!!!!

How much hashrate do you little peons have?? 20%  30% I don't think that will effect ANY changes in Bitcoin