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[Frozenlock]

I won't deny some people who go to homeopaths feel or even get better.  But until experiments can isolate 'water memory' as being the most likely factor there's a long list of probable causes to explore before we can reasonably assume there is anything in it.

It's called the placebo effect.

[ShroomsKit]

It should begin going down as we are near a full moon.
http://i41.tinypic.com/a9o5td.png

Where is this graph from?

Actually, including moon cycles is a standard feature in nearly every bitcoin charting service... from bitcoinity to clarkmoody. Who needs complex indicators when you've got the tide on your side?

If the moon affects behavior enough to show marketable increases in crime, then why not buying behaviors? (Ever wonder where the word "Lunatic" came from?)
I know my dream intensity increases during full moons and I've seen too many children have trouble sleeping during them, so something does look like it is being affected.

We are not just walking around on a planet, we are a part of it and the Universe we live in. Our habits are influenced by everything,... grasshopper.  
(And then there is the Quantum Physics perspective if you prefer.)

More crime during full moon is a myth.

And even if it weren't there's a whole plethora of more plausible explanations - such as, off the top of my head, it being possible for criminals to see more without artificial light - before we need to start looking to tiny gravitational and magnetic differences as have any likelihood of affecting our behaviour!

It's like the homoeopathy thing.  I won't deny some people who go to homeopaths feel or even get better.  But until experiments can isolate 'water memory' as being the most likely factor there's a long list of probable causes to explore before we can reasonably assume there is anything in it.

We are not just walking around on a planet, we are a part of it and the Universe we live in. Our habits are influenced by everything,... grasshopper.  

Yes, and isn't that fantastic? What's also magnificent is through our discovery, exploration and development of scientific principles and methods we have a means of differentiating between stuff that just seems like it ought to explain something and the times where correlation actually does mean causation.

Having said that I'm tending towards thinking we need the dreamers to come up with really random propositions unhindered by too much knowledge of how things work and how we know stuff - so that the more methodical of us have things to test for!  Even if 99.9999% of them turn out to be baseless every now and again we will come across something that is potentially world-changing - and that has to be worth the price

Apologies if that was a bit deep for this time of day (if you're anywhere in the region of GMT)

Let me correct myself. Possible more crime during a full moon because of the full moon's effects (other than extra light) is a myth.

[notme]

I won't deny some people who go to homeopaths feel or even get better.  But until experiments can isolate 'water memory' as being the most likely factor there's a long list of probable causes to explore before we can reasonably assume there is anything in it.

It's called the placebo effect.

This is entirely true.  And it highlights the power of our minds to overcome physical reality, at least within the bounds of our bodies.

[Its About Sharing]

It should begin going down as we are near a full moon.
http://i41.tinypic.com/a9o5td.png

Where is this graph from?

Actually, including moon cycles is a standard feature in nearly every bitcoin charting service... from bitcoinity to clarkmoody. Who needs complex indicators when you've got the tide on your side?

If the moon affects behavior enough to show marketable increases in crime, then why not buying behaviors? (Ever wonder where the word "Lunatic" came from?)
I know my dream intensity increases during full moons and I've seen too many children have trouble sleeping during them, so something does look like it is being affected.

We are not just walking around on a planet, we are a part of it and the Universe we live in. Our habits are influenced by everything,... grasshopper.  
(And then there is the Quantum Physics perspective if you prefer.)

More crime during full moon is a myth.
And there can be several reasons why you think you dream more intensly during full moon.

Sorry, but I studied crime in school at the bachelors and masters level. I've seen the numerous studies. The only counter argument that has any validity is that it is lighter outside during full moons, but criminals tend to like darker places...

You can comment upon anothers experiences but that is all you can do. It is quite individual. I'll go with the "primitive" peoples of the world who understand the dream world better. Speaking of, I have studied dreams for years and the correlation between full moons and dreaming is quite obvious. Now, if you practice recording dreams for 10+ years like me and you have first hand experience, then I'm all ears. But I have a feeling that most that comment, well, are just commenting.

[Its About Sharing]

You're looking for a pattern which isn't there. You ignore it every time it does not happen.

It might even be expected behaviour. You know it's gonna be full moon so you're gonna act differently because you want to believe.

You can argue this both ways. Most of the time I am not following the moon.

There are studies to back this up, both behavioral and at the personal level.
I would say that it depends on the sensitivity of the individual.

Menstration is tied to the moon (28 day cycle). Further, many animals are in sync with nature. It is just a question of sensitivity.
It is nothing personal if you are not in touch with it. We create our realities and in large part our physical responsiveness to the environment due to beliefs, diet, etc.

The bigger question here is why humanity has, for the most part, lost that connection, however obvious it is (to some of us)...

[notme]

Sorry, but I studied crime in school at the bachelors and masters level. I've seen the numerous studies. The only counter argument that has any validity is that it is lighter outside during full moons, but criminals tend to like darker places...

You can comment upon anothers experiences but that is all you can do. It is quite individual. I'll go with the "primitive" peoples of the world who understand the dream world better. Speaking of, I have studied dreams for years and the correlation between full moons and dreaming is quite obvious. Now, if you practice recording dreams for 10+ years like me and you have first hand experience, then I'm all ears. But I have a feeling that most that comment, well, are just commenting.

It's about sharing.  But for some, their brand of arrogance is too strong to see the wisdom staring them in the face.  They believe there is only the I, alone and without outside influence.  They fear sharing.

[ShroomsKit]

It should begin going down as we are near a full moon.
http://i41.tinypic.com/a9o5td.png

Where is this graph from?

Actually, including moon cycles is a standard feature in nearly every bitcoin charting service... from bitcoinity to clarkmoody. Who needs complex indicators when you've got the tide on your side?

If the moon affects behavior enough to show marketable increases in crime, then why not buying behaviors? (Ever wonder where the word "Lunatic" came from?)
I know my dream intensity increases during full moons and I've seen too many children have trouble sleeping during them, so something does look like it is being affected.

We are not just walking around on a planet, we are a part of it and the Universe we live in. Our habits are influenced by everything,... grasshopper.  
(And then there is the Quantum Physics perspective if you prefer.)

More crime during full moon is a myth.
And there can be several reasons why you think you dream more intensly during full moon.

Sorry, but I studied crime in school at the bachelors and masters level. I've seen the numerous studies. The only counter argument that has any validity is that it is lighter outside during full moons, but criminals tend to like darker places...

You can comment upon anothers experiences but that is all you can do. It is quite individual. I'll go with the "primitive" peoples of the world who understand the dream world better. Speaking of, I have studied dreams for years and the correlation between full moons and dreaming is quite obvious. Now, if you practice recording dreams for 10+ years like me and you have first hand experience, then I'm all ears. But I have a feeling that most that comment, well, are just commenting.

Right, and now you are gonna back up your claims with proof right?

[Its About Sharing]

For example, researchers Ivan Kelly, James Rotton, and Roger Culver, in their study "The Moon was Full and Nothing Happened" (published in the book "The Hundredth Monkey and Other Paradigms of the Paranormal," 1991) examined more than 100 studies of alleged lunar effects and found no significant correlation between phases of the moon and disasters, homicide rates, etc. Furthermore, there is no known mechanism by which the moon would somehow influence a person's mind to make him more dangerous—except of course for his own expectations.


http://www.livescience.com/1617-strange-happen-full-moon.html

Weird how people still believe in these ancient ridiculous myths which have been proven false over and over again.

It is amazing what a competitive, insensitive, western way of life will do the people and the scientific community at large. But the other studies are still out there.  

[Its About Sharing]

It should begin going down as we are near a full moon.
http://i41.tinypic.com/a9o5td.png

Where is this graph from?

Actually, including moon cycles is a standard feature in nearly every bitcoin charting service... from bitcoinity to clarkmoody. Who needs complex indicators when you've got the tide on your side?

If the moon affects behavior enough to show marketable increases in crime, then why not buying behaviors? (Ever wonder where the word "Lunatic" came from?)
I know my dream intensity increases during full moons and I've seen too many children have trouble sleeping during them, so something does look like it is being affected.

We are not just walking around on a planet, we are a part of it and the Universe we live in. Our habits are influenced by everything,... grasshopper.  
(And then there is the Quantum Physics perspective if you prefer.)

More crime during full moon is a myth.
And there can be several reasons why you think you dream more intensly during full moon.

Sorry, but I studied crime in school at the bachelors and masters level. I've seen the numerous studies. The only counter argument that has any validity is that it is lighter outside during full moons, but criminals tend to like darker places...

You can comment upon anothers experiences but that is all you can do. It is quite individual. I'll go with the "primitive" peoples of the world who understand the dream world better. Speaking of, I have studied dreams for years and the correlation between full moons and dreaming is quite obvious. Now, if you practice recording dreams for 10+ years like me and you have first hand experience, then I'm all ears. But I have a feeling that most that comment, well, are just commenting.

Right, and now you are gonna back up your claims with proof right?

How about this, since this is the wall thread and I don't want to offend others outside their beliefs, you go back to yours and I'll just go back to mine...
Now most are happy.

[ShroomsKit]

For example, researchers Ivan Kelly, James Rotton, and Roger Culver, in their study "The Moon was Full and Nothing Happened" (published in the book "The Hundredth Monkey and Other Paradigms of the Paranormal," 1991) examined more than 100 studies of alleged lunar effects and found no significant correlation between phases of the moon and disasters, homicide rates, etc. Furthermore, there is no known mechanism by which the moon would somehow influence a person's mind to make him more dangerous—except of course for his own expectations.


http://www.livescience.com/1617-strange-happen-full-moon.html

Weird how people still believe in these ancient ridiculous myths which have been proven false over and over again.

It is amazing what a competitive, insensitive, western way of life will do the people and the scientific community at large. But the other studies are still out there.  

You mean the studies not backed up by science of course?
Sorry, not interested. Same we want to believe bs over and over again.

[ShroomsKit]

It should begin going down as we are near a full moon.
http://i41.tinypic.com/a9o5td.png

Where is this graph from?

Actually, including moon cycles is a standard feature in nearly every bitcoin charting service... from bitcoinity to clarkmoody. Who needs complex indicators when you've got the tide on your side?

If the moon affects behavior enough to show marketable increases in crime, then why not buying behaviors? (Ever wonder where the word "Lunatic" came from?)
I know my dream intensity increases during full moons and I've seen too many children have trouble sleeping during them, so something does look like it is being affected.

We are not just walking around on a planet, we are a part of it and the Universe we live in. Our habits are influenced by everything,... grasshopper.  
(And then there is the Quantum Physics perspective if you prefer.)

More crime during full moon is a myth.
And there can be several reasons why you think you dream more intensly during full moon.

Sorry, but I studied crime in school at the bachelors and masters level. I've seen the numerous studies. The only counter argument that has any validity is that it is lighter outside during full moons, but criminals tend to like darker places...

You can comment upon anothers experiences but that is all you can do. It is quite individual. I'll go with the "primitive" peoples of the world who understand the dream world better. Speaking of, I have studied dreams for years and the correlation between full moons and dreaming is quite obvious. Now, if you practice recording dreams for 10+ years like me and you have first hand experience, then I'm all ears. But I have a feeling that most that comment, well, are just commenting.

Right, and now you are gonna back up your claims with proof right?

How about this, since this is the wall thread and I don't want to offend others outside their beliefs, you go back to yours and I'll just go back to mine...
Now most are happy.

What? No proof? Wow, now that's a surprise. Who would've guessed you'd make up an excuse as soon as the proof part comes. I certainly didn't. Because none of your kind of believers has ever done such a thing before.

[Its About Sharing]

Sorry, but I studied crime in school at the bachelors and masters level. I've seen the numerous studies. The only counter argument that has any validity is that it is lighter outside during full moons, but criminals tend to like darker places...

You can comment upon anothers experiences but that is all you can do. It is quite individual. I'll go with the "primitive" peoples of the world who understand the dream world better. Speaking of, I have studied dreams for years and the correlation between full moons and dreaming is quite obvious. Now, if you practice recording dreams for 10+ years like me and you have first hand experience, then I'm all ears. But I have a feeling that most that comment, well, are just commenting.

It's about sharing.  But for some, their brand of arrogance is too strong to see the wisdom staring them in the face.  They believe there is only the I, alone and without outside influence.  They fear sharing.

Most have never taken a red pill I guess?  
Ahhh, the lady in the red dress...

Its all about sharing

[Traktion]

price is floating up on light volume, and even small sales are enough for it to get hammered back down. No doubt about it, this is a fake rally designed to let people sell high. Bail while you can! Full disclosure, I'm short from $106.5 
 

Yes and we have the makings of a 3rd straight day of higher prices on progressively lower volume. This happened last week on the 9-11 (no pun) and we wen't down afterwards. It is a tell tale downward formation (if it holds)...

+1

[On Bitstamp prices...]

It's looking like a triple top - three failed attempts to get over the 108 bar, with retraces back to 102 each time. I doubt we will see a forth.

However... the last retrace only touched 102, with a sharp bounce back. This starts looking a bit like a rising triangle, which is bullish. From this perspective, getting over 108 is a smaller leap.

There is a good deal of resistance over 108 though, which would need a lot of buying power to punch through. Therefore, I'm about 85% bearish for the trend for the next few days. I have orders in around 101 and 91 to catch the retrace back to the 18th or profit from another 10% fall beyond this.



P.S. I bought at 99 and sold at 107 since the 18th. I missed the first spike (sell price too high - by 0.5 BTC annoyingly!) and then just missed last night's dip (buy was at 101, and only 102 was reached). You can't win them all though!

[Its About Sharing]

It should begin going down as we are near a full moon.
http://i41.tinypic.com/a9o5td.png

Where is this graph from?

Actually, including moon cycles is a standard feature in nearly every bitcoin charting service... from bitcoinity to clarkmoody. Who needs complex indicators when you've got the tide on your side?

If the moon affects behavior enough to show marketable increases in crime, then why not buying behaviors? (Ever wonder where the word "Lunatic" came from?)
I know my dream intensity increases during full moons and I've seen too many children have trouble sleeping during them, so something does look like it is being affected.

We are not just walking around on a planet, we are a part of it and the Universe we live in. Our habits are influenced by everything,... grasshopper.  
(And then there is the Quantum Physics perspective if you prefer.)

More crime during full moon is a myth.
And there can be several reasons why you think you dream more intensly during full moon.

Sorry, but I studied crime in school at the bachelors and masters level. I've seen the numerous studies. The only counter argument that has any validity is that it is lighter outside during full moons, but criminals tend to like darker places...

You can comment upon anothers experiences but that is all you can do. It is quite individual. I'll go with the "primitive" peoples of the world who understand the dream world better. Speaking of, I have studied dreams for years and the correlation between full moons and dreaming is quite obvious. Now, if you practice recording dreams for 10+ years like me and you have first hand experience, then I'm all ears. But I have a feeling that most that comment, well, are just commenting.

Right, and now you are gonna back up your claims with proof right?

How about this, since this is the wall thread and I don't want to offend others outside their beliefs, you go back to yours and I'll just go back to mine...
Now most are happy.

What? No proof? Wow, now that's a surprise. Who would've guessed you's make up an excuse as doon as the proof part comes. I certainly didn't. Because none of your kind of believer has ever done such a thing before.

I studied it for years. You go do the same and then get back to me. (And I don't have the links right here with me, but if you are a disbeliever that is fine. I take no offense.)
I prefer not to even say I am a "believer", there is something called first hand experience, knowing and then of course just good old observation.
Hurry, the lady in the red dress returns...

[Its About Sharing]

price is floating up on light volume, and even small sales are enough for it to get hammered back down. No doubt about it, this is a fake rally designed to let people sell high. Bail while you can! Full disclosure, I'm short from $106.5 
 

Yes and we have the makings of a 3rd straight day of higher prices on progressively lower volume. This happened last week on the 9-11 (no pun) and we wen't down afterwards. It is a tell tale downward formation (if it holds)...

+1

[On Bitstamp prices...]

It's looking like a triple top - three failed attempts to get over the 108 bar, with retraces back to 102 each time. I doubt we will see a forth.

However... the last retrace only touched 102, with a sharp bounce back. This starts looking a bit like a rising triangle, which is bullish. From this perspective, getting over 108 is a smaller leap.

There is a good deal of resistance over 108 though, which would need a lot of buying power to punch through. Therefore, I'm about 85% bearish for the trend for the next few days. I have orders in around 101 and 91 to catch the retrace back to the 18th or profit from another 10% fall beyond this.



P.S. I bought at 99 and sold at 107 since the 18th. I missed the first spike (sell price too high - by 0.5 BTC annoyingly!) and then just missed last night's dip (buy was at 101, and only 102 was reached). You can't win them all though!

Agreed, it is tough to stay out of this market, but doing so reluctantly.
ps - I almost did what you did at 100 (but held back :-(  )

[ShroomsKit]

It's always the same bs with these type of people.
They make the most ridiculous claims that scienes has proven wrong over and over again.
Yet their will to believe is so strong they ignore everything that doesn't fit that same believe.

They all have done years of studies and have tons of proof but when it comes to sharing that proof they suddenly come up with one excuse after the other.

Seriously, i've seen this same story at least 300 times by now.
It's pathetic really.

I don't care what you believe but if you make ridiculous claims then back them up. If you know you can't then please stop spreading your nonsense.

[420]

wow that bitcoin price

click here if you want to throwup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUvu1mlWco

[ShroomsKit]

It should begin going down as we are near a full moon.
http://i41.tinypic.com/a9o5td.png

Where is this graph from?

Actually, including moon cycles is a standard feature in nearly every bitcoin charting service... from bitcoinity to clarkmoody. Who needs complex indicators when you've got the tide on your side?

If the moon affects behavior enough to show marketable increases in crime, then why not buying behaviors? (Ever wonder where the word "Lunatic" came from?)
I know my dream intensity increases during full moons and I've seen too many children have trouble sleeping during them, so something does look like it is being affected.

We are not just walking around on a planet, we are a part of it and the Universe we live in. Our habits are influenced by everything,... grasshopper.  
(And then there is the Quantum Physics perspective if you prefer.)

More crime during full moon is a myth.
And there can be several reasons why you think you dream more intensly during full moon.

Sorry, but I studied crime in school at the bachelors and masters level. I've seen the numerous studies. The only counter argument that has any validity is that it is lighter outside during full moons, but criminals tend to like darker places...

You can comment upon anothers experiences but that is all you can do. It is quite individual. I'll go with the "primitive" peoples of the world who understand the dream world better. Speaking of, I have studied dreams for years and the correlation between full moons and dreaming is quite obvious. Now, if you practice recording dreams for 10+ years like me and you have first hand experience, then I'm all ears. But I have a feeling that most that comment, well, are just commenting.

Right, and now you are gonna back up your claims with proof right?

How about this, since this is the wall thread and I don't want to offend others outside their beliefs, you go back to yours and I'll just go back to mine...
Now most are happy.

What? No proof? Wow, now that's a surprise. Who would've guessed you's make up an excuse as doon as the proof part comes. I certainly didn't. Because none of your kind of believer has ever done such a thing before.

I studied it for years. You go do the same and then get back to me. (And I don't have the links right here with me, but if you are a disbeliever that is fine. I take no offense.)
I prefer not to even say I am a "believer", there is something called first hand experience, knowing and then of course just good old observation.
Hurry, the lady in the red dress returns...

Years of studies. You must have tons of proof which you are gonna share with us now right? It's all about sharing man. We're waiting.
And don't turn this around. You are the ones making crazy claims, not me.

[wonkytonky]

what i think is happening.;   big guy .. slowly bying up with 1k(ish) buys..     people think .. oh trend is changing..   lets buy..

big guy has  put good bidvolume ..

now big guy bought high ....  he knows price will not go much deeper then 80 ish ... so must atack from a higher price ..

big guy removes bidvolume..

dump enough coins to start panic selloff ..  

we all think its cup and handle pattern right?    well maybe this can be true for the big player to even have the ability  to sell at even higher price..

i'm still full fiat..   got bot ready to profit when we might have some shortterm up rally..
but looking at full orderbook , + asci miners having a lot of coins to sell lately...   i'm not feeling it uptrending already..
although TA indicators are pretty good looking to me for some up trend..

this market is manipulated too much  .. i'd say 1 more time bottom to start trend reversal or stability and slowly growing to the next bubble in januari

[Traktion]

price is floating up on light volume, and even small sales are enough for it to get hammered back down. No doubt about it, this is a fake rally designed to let people sell high. Bail while you can! Full disclosure, I'm short from $106.5 
 

Yes and we have the makings of a 3rd straight day of higher prices on progressively lower volume. This happened last week on the 9-11 (no pun) and we wen't down afterwards. It is a tell tale downward formation (if it holds)...

+1

[On Bitstamp prices...]

It's looking like a triple top - three failed attempts to get over the 108 bar, with retraces back to 102 each time. I doubt we will see a forth.

However... the last retrace only touched 102, with a sharp bounce back. This starts looking a bit like a rising triangle, which is bullish. From this perspective, getting over 108 is a smaller leap.

There is a good deal of resistance over 108 though, which would need a lot of buying power to punch through. Therefore, I'm about 85% bearish for the trend for the next few days. I have orders in around 101 and 91 to catch the retrace back to the 18th or profit from another 10% fall beyond this.



P.S. I bought at 99 and sold at 107 since the 18th. I missed the first spike (sell price too high - by 0.5 BTC annoyingly!) and then just missed last night's dip (buy was at 101, and only 102 was reached). You can't win them all though!

Agreed, it is tough to stay out of this market, but doing so reluctantly.
ps - I almost did what you did at 100 (but held back :-(  )

I only went half in and kept an order in at 85 as insurance. It was tricky to know which way it was going to go before the 18th (IMO), so I played it a bit safe!