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[404Revolution]

I bought my first Bitcoin at $11,000 yesterday what should I am be doing? When global collapse and me be upperclass smart aristocrat now? Thanks!

Learn English. Then post. Thanks.

Edit: Fuck off, you paid BCH sockpuppet!

Actually I'm very much not a paid BCH sockpuppet although I do have a BCH address if you would like to pay me to post whatever I want whenever I get around to it.

The only side I suspect of hiring shills is blockstream coreporation because helplessly complex and futile solutions seems to be their forte. Its tough to say though because they have so many people fooled.

[gentlemand]

That's interesting. I would not have thought trading directly between cryptos would be a taxable event. That would be a real tax nightmare for many of us.

This is from UK focused stuff, so it may not apply to anywhere else. But the UK has done very little to clarify anything.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinUK/comments/7fllvv/filling_in_cgt_form/

This geezer has written at length about it https://www.reddit.com/user/krissaroth

[600watt]

I bought my first Bitcoin at $11,000 yesterday what should I am be doing? When global collapse and me be upperclass smart aristocrat now? Thanks!

I bought my first coins on a bubble that collapsed from $30 to $2 within 6 or seven months. and I did not have this forum.



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[gembitz]

$10,000 is not going anywhere    ~$100,000 closeeeee(summer 2018)

[julian071]

OMG. Apparently every time you move a BTC off Coinbase to your wallet, that counts as a sell event.

God Fucking Damnit !

right?

these dinosaur nation states are so far behind the technology it really is laughable, just keep it in crypto and wait them out, this empire is near it's sell by date

Just move to Amsterdam. No taxes on gains whatsoever, only 1.2% on the value of what you own at the end of the year. Buy me a beer when you do Bob.

Are you serious? I've been looking for something like that. Canada with its 12.5% for the highest gainers was already very appealing to me, but the ridiculously strict immigration laws and the (at least apparent) amount of SJWs has been putting me off. Some US states looked appealing as well with around 20% for long-term hodls, but all the bullshitting with net neutrality and whatnot doesn't make that country very appealing either (I love the drama, but only from a distance..).

What does immigration to the Netherlands look like and how easy is it to declare your net worth?

I am serious. However immigrating is not that easy, even though Holland is very welcoming. Most importantly, the country you move from will generally want to settle all outstanding stuff including e.g. pensions in one full swoop. How that would work out you would have to check locally.

As I understand, in Belgium you actually pay exactly 0%. Plus it has better food and wine.

However Holland is slightly more internationally orientated and better organised. Whether you like the culture more is a question of taste. The Belgians are more polite, the Dutch are more straight forward and open minded.

Edit: sorry, to answer your question, or rather not answer it, I don't know how the procedure works. Of course, bringing a lot of money with you makes things easier. Declaring your net worth seems a question of just doing so I presume.  

Edit2: looks easy: https://www.wikihow.com/Move-to-the-Netherlands

[BitcoinBunny]

I bought my first Bitcoin at $11,000 yesterday what should I am be doing? When global collapse and me be upperclass smart aristocrat now? Thanks!

You not good weekend say buy tomorrow. In the rope with the collar for hard work when the BTC fathom. Smartyparts downward dog aristocrat no good deed. Collapse in the middle good well. So ok?

 

[pera]

Belgium have some damn fine beer 

[HairyMaclairy]

My fiat finally arrived in Slovenian bear land.  And there’s nothing to do but sit and twiddle my thumbs. Maybe some action on the weekend. 

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

OMG. Apparently every time you move a BTC off Coinbase to your wallet, that counts as a sell event.

God Fucking Damnit !

right?

these dinosaur nation states are so far behind the technology it really is laughable, just keep it in crypto and wait them out, this empire is near it's sell by date

Just move to Amsterdam. No taxes on gains whatsoever, only 1.2% on the value of what you own at the end of the year. Buy me a beer when you do Bob.

Are you serious? I've been looking for something like that. Canada with its 12.5% for the highest gainers was already very appealing to me, but the ridiculously strict immigration laws and the (at least apparent) amount of SJWs has been putting me off. Some US states looked appealing as well with around 20% for long-term hodls, but all the bullshitting with net neutrality and whatnot doesn't make that country very appealing either (I love the drama, but only from a distance..).

What does immigration to the Netherlands look like and how easy is it to declare your net worth?

Just come to Thailand and relax.

Are there zero taxes in Thailand or something?

I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.

[gentlemand]

I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.

All people seem to do in Thailand is sweat.

[Ibian]

I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.

All people seem to do in Thailand is sweat.

I made the terrible mistake of going there any time except in the winter. Do not do this.

Do go about now, however, it's quite nice.

[BitcoinBunny]

I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.

All people seem to do in Thailand is sweat.

Never been. Heard the women are quite accommodating as long as you have money.

[gentlemand]

I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.

All people seem to do in Thailand is sweat.

Never been. Heard the women are quite accommodating as long as you have money.

First you have to figure out if they're actually women, then you have to wipe the sweat off them or you'll slide straight off.

This is not acceptable.

[BitcoinBunny]

I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.

All people seem to do in Thailand is sweat.

Never been. Heard the women are quite accommodating as long as you have money.

First you have to figure out if they're actually women, then you have to wipe the sweat off them or you'll slide straight off.

This is not acceptable.

 

[gembitz]

beez in a trap :-D weeee

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

OMG. Apparently every time you move a BTC off Coinbase to your wallet, that counts as a sell event.

God Fucking Damnit !

right?

these dinosaur nation states are so far behind the technology it really is laughable, just keep it in crypto and wait them out, this empire is near it's sell by date

Just move to Amsterdam. No taxes on gains whatsoever, only 1.2% on the value of what you own at the end of the year. Buy me a beer when you do Bob.

Are you serious? I've been looking for something like that. Canada with its 12.5% for the highest gainers was already very appealing to me, but the ridiculously strict immigration laws and the (at least apparent) amount of SJWs has been putting me off. Some US states looked appealing as well with around 20% for long-term hodls, but all the bullshitting with net neutrality and whatnot doesn't make that country very appealing either (I love the drama, but only from a distance..).

What does immigration to the Netherlands look like and how easy is it to declare your net worth?

I am serious. However immigrating is not that easy, even though Holland is very welcoming. Most importantly, the country you move from will generally want to settle all outstanding stuff including e.g. pensions in one full swoop. How that would work out you would have to check locally.

As I understand, in Belgium you actually pay exactly 0%. Plus it has better food and wine.

However Holland is slightly more internationally orientated and better organised. Whether you like the culture more is a question of taste. The Belgians are more polite, the Dutch are more straight forward and open minded.

Edit: sorry, to answer your question, or rather not answer it, I don't know how the procedure works. Of course, bringing a lot of money with you makes things easier. Declaring your net worth seems a question of just doing so I presume.  

Edit2: looks easy: https://www.wikihow.com/Move-to-the-Netherlands

The Netherlands would be simpler for me from a language perspective than Belgium. I also don't mind the liberal stance towards substances to say the least and I already know that there is some good and authentic Japanese cuisine in Amsterdam, which is generally quite rare abroad, so that's a massive bonus for me as I'd prefer not having to fly across the globe to satisfy some food cravings.

I've looked into it a bit too now, and it seems like getting into the Netherlands would be as simple as walking right in for me, unlike Canada. Seriously considering it, even if just for a short to mid term kind of stay. Anything is better than having to twist and bend to comply with tax laws without paying a ridiculous ~40% on gains for now.

Thanks a lot for bringing this to my attention by the way.

I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.

All people seem to do in Thailand is sweat.

I made the terrible mistake of going there any time except in the winter. Do not do this.

Do go about now, however, it's quite nice.

I lived there for a while, and summer is just utterly brutal. Pretty much lived in AC'd environments during that period.

[Dabs]

I've looked into it a bit too now, and it seems like getting into the Netherlands would be as simple as walking right in for me, unlike Canada. Seriously considering it, even if just for a short to mid term kind of stay. Anything is better than having to twist and bend to comply with tax laws without paying a ridiculous ~40% on gains for now.

Where are you right now and what's the difference between Netherlands and Canada as far as Bitcoin (and other crypto) is concerned? Both seem to have localbitcoins ... but I'm guessing you're looking at exchanges that exist there, or you just want to be a good guy and properly declare your capital gains.

Both countries have at least a dozen exchanges and you could always wire transfer from outside those countries. Without using Coinbase.

*edit* if you hang around long enough in any country, you'll find a few "dealers" who will gladly exchange for you without asking questions, but ... maybe you want to properly declare your taxes and stuff.

[Ludwig Von]

OMG. Apparently every time you move a BTC off Coinbase to your wallet, that counts as a sell event.

God Fucking Damnit !

right?

these dinosaur nation states are so far behind the technology it really is laughable, just keep it in crypto and wait them out, this empire is near it's sell by date

Just move to Amsterdam. No taxes on gains whatsoever, only 1.2% on the value of what you own at the end of the year. Buy me a beer when you do Bob.

Are you serious? I've been looking for something like that. Canada with its 12.5% for the highest gainers was already very appealing to me, but the ridiculously strict immigration laws and the (at least apparent) amount of SJWs has been putting me off. Some US states looked appealing as well with around 20% for long-term hodls, but all the bullshitting with net neutrality and whatnot doesn't make that country very appealing either (I love the drama, but only from a distance..).

What does immigration to the Netherlands look like and how easy is it to declare your net worth?

I am serious. However immigrating is not that easy, even though Holland is very welcoming. Most importantly, the country you move from will generally want to settle all outstanding stuff including e.g. pensions in one full swoop. How that would work out you would have to check locally.

As I understand, in Belgium you actually pay exactly 0%. Plus it has better food and wine.

However Holland is slightly more internationally orientated and better organised. Whether you like the culture more is a question of taste. The Belgians are more polite, the Dutch are more straight forward and open minded.

Edit: sorry, to answer your question, or rather not answer it, I don't know how the procedure works. Of course, bringing a lot of money with you makes things easier. Declaring your net worth seems a question of just doing so I presume.  

Edit2: looks easy: https://www.wikihow.com/Move-to-the-Netherlands

The Netherlands would be simpler for me from a language perspective than Belgium. I also don't mind the liberal stance towards substances to say the least and I already know that there is some good and authentic Japanese cuisine in Amsterdam, which is generally quite rare abroad, so that's a massive bonus for me as I'd prefer not having to fly across the globe to satisfy some food cravings.

Ons Nederlands is beter dan het Hollands, Engels, Frans, Duits zijn we ook beter in en culinair, tja... . Grts from Belgium.

I've looked into it a bit too now, and it seems like getting into the Netherlands would be as simple as walking right in for me, unlike Canada. Seriously considering it, even if just for a short to mid term kind of stay. Anything is better than having to twist and bend to comply with tax laws without paying a ridiculous ~40% on gains for now.

Thanks a lot for bringing this to my attention by the way.

I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.

All people seem to do in Thailand is sweat.

I made the terrible mistake of going there any time except in the winter. Do not do this.

Do go about now, however, it's quite nice.

I lived there for a while, and summer is just utterly brutal. Pretty much lived in AC'd environments during that period.

[Ibian]

I didn't really like it there enough to stay for a prolonged amount of time though... Way too hot.

All people seem to do in Thailand is sweat.

Never been. Heard the women are quite accommodating as long as you have money.

I got a cute poster that labels every country according to what it's known for. Thailand is labeled "brothel".

It's true too, but it's not worse than many other countries. It just has the reputation.

[ivomm]

10K revisited! And the winner is ... bearstamp!!!!