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[Nightowlace]

I've used this analogy before;

Go to walmart explain Bitcoin to the employees and shoppers.
Report results.
Then tell them I know I told you to buy in at $800 and we are currently at $453 but it will be okay. This is a healthy correction.
Report results. ...... That is if your not hog tied in someone's garage with a shotgun to your head and some guy yelling "boy, you told me to buy this god damn internet money and you host me half my life savings"

[el_rlee]

I smell 2011.

It's really too bad for people who can't imagine how 2013 could possibly be like 2011 because they weren't here at the time.

It's different this time. China market simply overheated, but still there is a large premium when buying Bitcoin in China which tells me that the engine driving the ride still has enough steam to carry this rally.

[Miz4r]

Every time it's a bigger bubble, bigger losses, and more negative publicity. Which is why they won't buy in.
Which is why they will never buy. Which is why there will never be mass adoption. Which is why Bitcoin will never become all of the things we had hoped it would.

What are you talking about? The 2011 bubble was the biggest bubble of all and those who bought at the top would be sitting on huge profits right now. This drop from $900 to $453 is also peanuts compared to the crash in April, so the bubbles are only getting smaller and the losses as well. There is no such thing as negative publicity for bitcoin.

[NamelessOne]

wow YOU TOUCHED MY WALL!!!!

Yup that was my wall, i use bot to pull it. Suckers who sold b4 my walls gonna hate me now.


Edit: see noobs? this is how you can get manipulated..

you are not the owner of that wall so stop your BS

Based on how many coins he has and his trading strategy I bet it actually is, hehe. 

[Nightowlace]

I smell 2011.

It's really too bad for people who can't imagine how 2013 could possibly be like 2011 because they weren't here at the time.

It's different this time. China market simply overheated, but still there is a large premium when buying Bitcoin in China which tells me that the engine driving the ride still has enough steam to carry this rally.

Until China sells, takes profit and/or the regime says no more.  

[wachtwoord]

Interesting how sentiment quickly changes in this thread. Seems to me people forget we have reached double the ATH time and again.

Indeed, ~half a year after the previous one. These cycles are damn fast.

[el_rlee]

I smell 2011.

It's really too bad for people who can't imagine how 2013 could possibly be like 2011 because they weren't here at the time.

It's different this time. China market simply overheated, but still there is a large premium when buying Bitcoin in China which tells me that the engine driving the ride still has enough steam to carry this rally.

Until China sells, takes profit and/or the regime says no more.  

I give you the last one. Big miracle so far.
The first two are out of the question.

[NamelessOne]

IMO it in everyone's best interest (including manipulators, not including April-style conspiracy theories or 2011-stype Ponzi fears) that we had this major correction, but not for it to be seen as a bubble-pop, in order to make even better profits if/when it really pops once well into the 4-figures. Whether you prefer fiat or BTC, it's surely more beneficial for the correction to end around about the current price, give or take.

You think new money is going to come in after they saw the clear crash that just happened? That, and uncertain dodgy exchanges that hold no certainty in regards to regulatory and legal issues. I think we just need a better platform to trade bitcoins on, that holds no uncertainty in regards to regulation and law, and is operated by reputable people.

Sure, some new money will be more careful after stamp's pitfall, but if this is perceived as a correction, not a crash/pop, I expect a huge influx of new money nonetheless

$900 to $400 is a bubble pop. Period. It's not a healthy correction. It's not a consolidation. It is exactly what I've been talking about. The WORST thing that can happen to Bitcoin. I posted on FB the other day "Bitcoin on the rise about to break $800" huge amount of comments all similar to "wow, awesome, congrats". Then the emails start pouring in. Questions, thoughts, what, how, where. Today I wake up to those same people saying "man I'm glad I sat that out, dude do you want to cut your wrists or what, glad I didn't throw any money in is lose half and still be losing"  

The people on this forum are bitcoiners. The people in the real world are not. They don't give a shit about the technology, they don't believe bitcoins will replace their fiat currency, the only thing they see it as is something they can invest in and every time we start to see some solid new money come in everyone starts speculating and the whales start taking advantage. The only thing people currently see and are talking about "Bitcoin crashes yet again, and costs investors billions".

Wake up people. For people who are so smart, your pretty dumb to try and fool yourself and others that this is healthy and just a nice correction/consolidation.

How is it any worse than the other two times? Also, when it gets much higher your friends will reverse their opinions again, yet probably not buy in, then it will 'crash' again, and the process will repeat over and over just as it always does with Bitcoin.

Every time it's a bigger bubble, bigger losses, and more negative publicity. Which is why they won't buy in.
Which is why they will never buy. Which is why there will never be mass adoption. Which is why Bitcoin will never become all of the things we had hoped it would.

Lol so why are you here? Because more people are doing bitcoin now then EVER, and your friends will miss the train, too bad for them.

[kehtolo]

Every time it's a bigger bubble, bigger losses, and more negative publicity. Which is why they won't buy in.
Which is why they will never buy. Which is why there will never be mass adoption. Which is why Bitcoin will never become all of the things we had hoped it would.

What are you talking about? The 2011 bubble was the biggest bubble of all and those who bought at the top would be sitting on huge profits right now. This drop from $900 to $453 is also peanuts compared to the crash in April, so the bubbles are only getting smaller and the losses as well. There is no such thing as negative publicity for bitcoin.

+1 This.

[sonofliberty]

Every time it's a bigger bubble, bigger losses, and more negative publicity. Which is why they won't buy in.
Which is why they will never buy. Which is why there will never be mass adoption. Which is why Bitcoin will never become all of the things we had hoped it would.

What are you talking about? The 2011 bubble was the biggest bubble of all and those who bought at the top would be sitting on huge profits right now. This drop from $900 to $453 is also peanuts compared to the crash in April, so the bubbles are only getting smaller and the losses as well. There is no such thing as negative publicity for bitcoin.

Damn right.

[Mevius]

Every time it's a bigger bubble, bigger losses, and more negative publicity. Which is why they won't buy in.
Which is why they will never buy. Which is why there will never be mass adoption. Which is why Bitcoin will never become all of the things we had hoped it would.

What are you talking about? The 2011 bubble was the biggest bubble of all and those who bought at the top would be sitting on huge profits right now. This drop from $900 to $453 is also peanuts compared to the crash in April, so the bubbles are only getting smaller and the losses as well. There is no such thing as negative publicity for bitcoin.

qft

[kehtolo]

Cup and handle pattern on Gox and btcchina (and to a lesser extent Stamp)

Price is rising. Could be the end of this consolidation phase.. or drawing near to it.

[Nightowlace]

Every time it's a bigger bubble, bigger losses, and more negative publicity. Which is why they won't buy in.
Which is why they will never buy. Which is why there will never be mass adoption. Which is why Bitcoin will never become all of the things we had hoped it would.

What are you talking about? The 2011 bubble was the biggest bubble of all and those who bought at the top would be sitting on huge profits right now. This drop from $900 to $453 is also peanuts compared to the crash in April, so the bubbles are only getting smaller and the losses as well. There is no such thing as negative publicity for bitcoin.

The only people who bought in 2011 are people who understand Bitcoin.
Again my point is take yourself to a normal person thinking strategy. Okay let me spell it out for you.
You now only have a high school diploma. You work at a factory, walmart, you're a waiter bartender whatever.
You have 3 kids, a tiny house, and a minivan.
You live paycheck to paycheck.
You took your savings ($10,000 or so) you put it into this Bitcoin thing.
Now you have $5000 worth of Bitcoin/savings.
You think they are still holding and hoping?
You think they haven't sold and are screaming and cryin at the top of their lungs I lost half of my life savings Bitcoin is the devil to everyone they know?

This is why it is bad. Because the people investing in bubble rises are people who think they will get rich quick (99% of the population which is why lottery is the most profitable thing for states) and when "healthy corrections" happen it's devastating to the reputation to Bitcoin and the bigger they get and the harder they fall the more negative news and I promise you the 99% don't know, care or believe in BTC technology they believe in their dollar and you Bitcoin took it from them.

[Vycid]

Every time it's a bigger bubble, bigger losses, and more negative publicity. Which is why they won't buy in.
Which is why they will never buy. Which is why there will never be mass adoption. Which is why Bitcoin will never become all of the things we had hoped it would.

What are you talking about? The 2011 bubble was the biggest bubble of all and those who bought at the top would be sitting on huge profits right now. This drop from $900 to $453 is also peanuts compared to the crash in April, so the bubbles are only getting smaller and the losses as well. There is no such thing as negative publicity for bitcoin.

The only people who bought in 2011 are people who understand Bitcoin.
Again my point is take yourself to a normal person thinking strategy. Okay let me spell it out for you.
You now only have a high school diploma. You work at a factory, walmart, you're a waiter bartender whatever.
You have 3 kids, a tiny house, and a minivan.
You live paycheck to paycheck.
You took your savings ($10,000 or so) you put it into this Bitcoin thing.
Now you have $5000 worth of Bitcoin/savings.
You think they are still holding and hoping?
You think they haven't sold and are screaming and cryin at the top of their lungs I lost half of my life savings Bitcoin is the devil to everyone they know?

This is why it is bad. Because the people investing in bubble rises are people who think they will get rich quick (99% of the population which is why lottery is the most profitable thing for states) and when "healthy corrections" happen it's devastating to the reputation to Bitcoin and the bigger they get and the harder they fall the more negative news and I promise you the 99% don't know, care or believe in BTC technology they believe in their dollar and you Bitcoin took it from them.

This argument applies to every stock, which explains why nobody invests in the stock market.

[kehtolo]

$575 gox $530 Stamp.. up up UP!!

[el_rlee]

nobody invests in the stock market.

O rly?

[Nightowlace]

$575 gox $530 Stamp.. up up UP!!

I'll remind you of this next week

[proudhon]

Every time it's a bigger bubble, bigger losses, and more negative publicity. Which is why they won't buy in.
Which is why they will never buy. Which is why there will never be mass adoption. Which is why Bitcoin will never become all of the things we had hoped it would.

What are you talking about? The 2011 bubble was the biggest bubble of all and those who bought at the top would be sitting on huge profits right now. This drop from $900 to $453 is also peanuts compared to the crash in April, so the bubbles are only getting smaller and the losses as well. There is no such thing as negative publicity for bitcoin.

The only people who bought in 2011 are people who understand Bitcoin.
Again my point is take yourself to a normal person thinking strategy. Okay let me spell it out for you.
You now only have a high school diploma. You work at a factory, walmart, you're a waiter bartender whatever.
You have 3 kids, a tiny house, and a minivan.
You live paycheck to paycheck.
You took your savings ($10,000 or so) you put it into this Bitcoin thing.
Now you have $5000 worth of Bitcoin/savings.
You think they are still holding and hoping?
You think they haven't sold and are screaming and cryin at the top of their lungs I lost half of my life savings Bitcoin is the devil to everyone they know?

This is why it is bad. Because the people investing in bubble rises are people who think they will get rich quick (99% of the population which is why lottery is the most profitable thing for states) and when "healthy corrections" happen it's devastating to the reputation to Bitcoin and the bigger they get and the harder they fall the more negative news and I promise you the 99% don't know, care or believe in BTC technology they believe in their dollar and you Bitcoin took it from them.

Oh, look, it's me in 2011 and 2012.  Except I grew some balls and now I'm rich.

[hlynur]

Every time it's a bigger bubble, bigger losses, and more negative publicity. Which is why they won't buy in.
Which is why they will never buy. Which is why there will never be mass adoption. Which is why Bitcoin will never become all of the things we had hoped it would.

What are you talking about? The 2011 bubble was the biggest bubble of all and those who bought at the top would be sitting on huge profits right now. This drop from $900 to $453 is also peanuts compared to the crash in April, so the bubbles are only getting smaller and the losses as well. There is no such thing as negative publicity for bitcoin.

The only people who bought in 2011 are people who understand Bitcoin.
Again my point is take yourself to a normal person thinking strategy. Okay let me spell it out for you.
You now only have a high school diploma. You work at a factory, walmart, you're a waiter bartender whatever.
You have 3 kids, a tiny house, and a minivan.
You live paycheck to paycheck.
You took your savings ($10,000 or so) you put it into this Bitcoin thing.
Now you have $5000 worth of Bitcoin/savings.
You think they are still holding and hoping?
You think they haven't sold and are screaming and cryin at the top of their lungs I lost half of my life savings Bitcoin is the devil to everyone they know?

This is why it is bad. Because the people investing in bubble rises are people who think they will get rich quick (99% of the population which is why lottery is the most profitable thing for states) and when "healthy corrections" happen it's devastating to the reputation to Bitcoin and the bigger they get and the harder they fall the more negative news and I promise you the 99% don't know, care or believe in BTC technology they believe in their dollar and you Bitcoin took it from them.

Oh, look, it's me in 2011 and 2012.  Except I grew some balls and now I'm rich.

touché   

[DougTanner]

I'm not ready to call a bottom yet, but if it double bottoms at ~$450 I think the rally will resume.