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[JayJuanGee]

You are just wrong on this one.

Wrong about what? My observation that BCH and COVID-19 are unrelated topics?

No. They are unrelated topics.

they are related.

Bcash is a negative and Covid-19 is a negative...

They are both plights upon the world..

Evil...

Etc etc..

just like we have difficulties getting rid of Covid-19, we have difficulties of getting rid of bcash variants...

Off with you and your plague topic of Bcash... at least covid is somewhat relevant to the topic of this thread  




 

[fillippone]

Good advice from PlanB!

Advice for #bitcoin newbies
1) read Whitepaper
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/static/docs/bitcoin.pdf
2) read Bullish Case for Bitcoin
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/the-bullish-case-for-bitcoin/
3) read BitGold
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/bit-gold/
4) read about Social Scalability
https://nakamotoinstitute.org/money-blockchains-and-social-scalability/
5) follow BTC top100 on twitter
https://hive.one/bitcoin/

https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1246393180762845186?s=20

[Ibian]

You are just wrong on this one.

Wrong about what? My observation that BCH and talking heads babbling about COVID-19 are unrelated topics?

No. They are unrelated topics.

The greatest weakness of western culture is the distaste for kicking someone who is already down.

[jbreher]

just like we have difficulties getting rid of Covid-19, we have difficulties of getting rid of bcash variants...

It is simple to get rid of BCH. People will even pay you to take it off your hands.

Unless you mean eradicate. In which case, it appears you're stuck with it in indefinite perpetuity. Sucks to be you.

[JayJuanGee]

just like we have difficulties getting rid of Covid-19, we have difficulties of getting rid of bcash variants...

It is simple to get rid of BCH. People will even pay you to take it off your hands.

Unless you mean eradicate. In which case, it appears you're stuck with it in indefinite perpetuity. Sucks to be you.

If you are proclaiming something similar to d_eddie (attached below), then I will have no choice than to agree with you (but I am suspecting that you are saying something different).

In essence, seems that one of the best approaches to any bcash variants, whether bcash the original or bcash sv the other scam token, is to spend that shit as fast as you can, while it still has value and as long as you can find a way to do it.... Hopefully, Bruno is not disadvantaged by you dumping that shit on him.. .

By the way, I don't have any of bcash variants, unless one of the exchanges that I had comes back in business to distribute what they had taken from me which (has some locked up BCH - and hypothetically BSV, too) is seeming to be about a less than .0323171994327% chance of happening, currently.

As a lot of Trumptards ignorant fools in the good ole USA take these clowns' words as the gospel, small wonder we are where we are today.

I shouldn't have watched that... these people... I have no words

The same mentality as bcashers; living in fantasy land

I don’t think you have a point. I used BCH to transfer hundreds of dollars of value to Bruno recently, to assist with his funeral arrangements. Does that sound like ‘fantasy land’ to you?

Freakin idiotic non-sequitur.

A handbook case of Gresham's law.

Edit:

By the way, if someone were to give me some BCH or BSV, I am not sure if I would know what to do.  I think that I do have an address that I could accept them, and then I would be trying to sell them fairly soon thereafter and either get fiat or BTC... So, surely, it would be inconvenient, and if that were the only way to pay me, I suppose that I would not refuse it, but if it is possible to pay me with BTC or dollars, I would prefer that...

I might be a bit of a softy because I am not used to dealing with various shitcoins, but I do have some ideas about some places in which I might be able to relieve myself of them.  I am at a little bit of an advantage compared with some newb who might be just entering the space and they might not even know the difference between bitcoin and various shitcoins, and therefore, it seems like a good thing for many of us bitcoiners to be constantly berating various shitcoins to the extent that we can so some newbs don't either end up getting the bags of various shitcoiners dumped on them or at least they can adequately respond in a way to get rid of and convert the shit as soon as practicable...


........which again comes to some possible difficulties with Bruno currently and he is even saying that he has been having some difficulties moving (no use of his right hand, for example) and if he has a short life expectancy (about two months but who knows if he is getting adequate care in current circumstances), then likely the managing of donations will go to someone else that he has already assigned and hopefully is able to manage those shitcoins properly without the various shitcoins losing too much value between the time of receipt and the time of liquidating or converting them to something that is less shitty.. Bruno likely could have easily handled these kinds of nuances, but he does not currently seem to be in a condition to do so, and that is only likely to get worse, and I don't believe that it is fair to presume that whoever is either managing his donations or going to be managing donations will be sufficiently on top of these various volatility or gresham's law matters....

[lightfoot]

Bay, where did your post go. It was so funny I was trying to merit it. :-)

(can take a joke :-)

Blah, I'm trying not to be a jerk through all this.

That last post was out of line of me, so I removed it.  <3

Understood. I try really hard not to be an asshat myself but sometimes it slips out anyway. A good "you're being an asshat" every now and then helps to keep me in check.

Merited post regardless because it was funny.

[xhomerx10]

watch a frozen world --> www.skylinewebcams.com/live-cams-category/city-cams.html

 It's a nightmare for everyone but the most avid of photographers.

Normally one would use long exposure times, using nd1000 grey filters, which makes everything that is moving disappear on the photo.
Like magic, but not suitable for everything (empty airports, parking spaces... ).

  Thanks for the tip.  I had no idea that was possible.

[Gyrsur]

One of my relatives (41 years of age) just died in New York of COVID19.

my deepest condolences, Raja_MBZ!  

[Gyrsur]

please MODs of bitcointalk.org have mercy with me. free my bot account "Gyrsur_Bot" for future automated posting like this post below. thank you very much!

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this is an automated post but unfortunately I'm not able to post it via my bot account Gyrsur_Bot because of restrictions.

From the notice, it seems to me that you have to pay the evil units fee... which is around $30... Also from the notice, it appeared that if you try to get the account whitelisted, you will likely get the account permanently banned.

I don't want to make theymos more rich but could be it is the only option I have. but on the other hand if he is unlucky and maybe will die because of COVID-19 what is the advantage?

[Searing]

Sorry to hear that. Guess the crisis actor thing is fake, who knew?

In other news, looks like the Trump Administration (I'd say the US Govt but it's really just Trump and his crap) is lying once again and under counting COVID deaths.

(See WaPo. They have screwed up links right now)

Will be interesting to see if they can keep these people off the "dead" roles long enough to vote R in November. After all I'm sure that is what they would have wanted.

One could of course speculate on how a Hillary administration would have handled things.

Well, it is likely that the 2.2 Trillion dollars would have not gone into permanent tax cuts for corporations and the rich in the USA.
Also likely would not have a former coal industry exec to run the EPA nor a pate school and destroy public education run the Education Department
No silly 'picture show' with the North Koreans
A lot more sanctions and not a love fest with Russia and Putin
More noise over the Wegar Muslims millions in detention in China, also a lot more noise about and such on Hong Kong
We would still have some kind of aid for Central America linked to reforms and such and gang violence...thus likely not have as big a refugee crisis
likely still have better relations and travel to Cuba

Would not likely have pulled troops out in a whim and abandoned Kurds in syria...against military advice-giving Russia the win in Syria
Also would likely have not mucked up the Nuclear Weapon Limits from the I think it was 1964 and Salt treaties
Likely would not have abandoned the 'pandemic study group' in the last year and the actual pandemic response team in full in last 2 years of the CDC ..center of disease control
and probably would have been more likely to take the threat of current pandemic seriously like Obama and SARS and announce national defense act and such response like Obama
before any deaths from sars back in the day...to get the military and infrastructure in place to move stuff where needed

Would have released his tax forms...all of them and separated business concerns in a trust like all previous presidents to trump has done
Also, would have (even if republican's see below) much more moderate supreme court picks (two)

OF COURSE

you could make the argument than a 'responsible' Republican from back in the day like John McCain or Mitt Romney MAY have done most of the list above also
but whatever your politics on above...we'd have a hell of a lot less drama in the world IMHO

Brad

[JayJuanGee]

please MODs of bitcointalk.org have mercy with me. free my bot account "Gyrsur_Bot" for future automated posting like this post below. thank you very much!

   Bitstamp    6795.00 USD   
(source: Bitstamp API)

this is an automated post but unfortunately I'm not able to post it via my bot account Gyrsur_Bot because of restrictions.

From the notice, it seems to me that you have to pay the evil units fee... which is around $30... Also from the notice, it appeared that if you try to get the account whitelisted, you will likely get the account permanently banned.

I don't want to make theymos more rich but could be it is the only option I have. but on the other hand if he is unlucky and maybe will die because of COVID-19 what is the advantage?

Hey, if you end up making something that is somewhat similar to chartbuddy (and not just the price, but of course you have to start somewhere), you could include a donation link, and probably you will be able to recoupe some, if not all, of your extra costs.. surely no guarantees, and even though some people appreciated having the price walls, they might even be appreciative of a period price only bot, too.  I am glad that you are working on this, so hopefully, you are not deterred by the fees... because I am not sure, once you have been flagged that you can get around it.. but maybe you could create another account and try again, and maybe there are ways that you might not end up getting any fees (surely, only speculative on my end, and beyond my pay grade, too).

[heslo]

Wow, didn't realise what I posted would cause so much drama. Apologies for that. All I meant by it is that those morons in that video suffer from the same selective reasonings and echo chamber mentality that (most) bcashes also fall victim to. A quick visit to the /r/btc subreddit will show you just that. That doesn't mean BCH doesn't work and that you can't transfer value... just that the reasonings for its existence are flawed and serve to push an agenda. Maybe I shouldn't have tried to shoe horn a BCH dig into a matter so serious; I'll think differently next time

Raja, I'm sorry mate, terrible news, thoughts are with you

[Gyrsur]

Donald's twin is in hospital now because of strong COVID-19 symptoms. they say just to be ready if his symptoms will become more worse. what a s**t show with that strong flu this year.    

[JayJuanGee]

Wow, didn't realise what I posted would cause so much drama. Apologies for that. All I meant by it is that those morons in that video suffer from the same selective reasonings and echo chamber mentality that (most) bcashes also fall victim to. A quick visit to the /r/btc subreddit will show you just that. That doesn't mean BCH doesn't work and that you can't transfer value... just that the reasonings for its existence are flawed and serve to push an agenda. Maybe I shouldn't have tried to shoe horn a BCH dig into a matter so serious; I'll think differently next time

Raja, I'm sorry mate, terrible news, thoughts are with you

Hey, heslo.  To the extent that you are kicking yourself (or apologizing) at any level for denigrating bcash or any of its variants, or bringing up the topic in a negative way, you should not feel any regrets.

Fuck bcash and its variant other shitcoin similitudes and other shitcoins too.  Fuck them all, and fuck the complications that might come in the event that you might receive some shitcoin and have to figure out how to cash it out for fiat or for bitcoin.

Yeah, some of us might be able to dance our way around some of these shitcoins, but frequently we might end up in some kind of vulnerability or some other bullshit when we are trying to deal with some of the shitcoins which might be o.k. for some of the more hard core bitcoiners amongst us, but surely could either fuck some other people up or turn them off to bitcoin too when they end up getting screwed over by some shitcoin, aka just like corona virus in several comparable ways.

[JayJuanGee]

Donald's twin is in hospital now because of strong COVID-19 symptoms. they say just to be ready if his symptoms will become more worse. what a s**t show with that strong flu this year.    

hahahahaha

you confused me for a second, because I said to myself:  "self, does donald have a twin?"  

And my lil selfie responded: "no"

And then after googling the topic, I figured out that you were referring to boris johnson... ... google confirmed that with a list of a few recent articles, like this one:

https://www.axios.com/boris-johnson-hospital-coronavirus-9928d983-45cf-4b12-88b2-f28ee1d62342.html

[Ibian]

Sorry to hear that. Guess the crisis actor thing is fake, who knew?

In other news, looks like the Trump Administration (I'd say the US Govt but it's really just Trump and his crap) is lying once again and under counting COVID deaths.

(See WaPo. They have screwed up links right now)

Will be interesting to see if they can keep these people off the "dead" roles long enough to vote R in November. After all I'm sure that is what they would have wanted.

One could of course speculate on how a Hillary administration would have handled things.

Well, it is likely that the 2.2 Trillion dollars would have not gone into permanent tax cuts for corporations and the rich in the USA.
Also likely would not have a former coal industry exec to run the EPA nor a pate school and destroy public education run the Education Department
No silly 'picture show' with the North Koreans
A lot more sanctions and not a love fest with Russia and Putin
More noise over the Wegar Muslims millions in detention in China, also a lot more noise about and such on Hong Kong
We would still have some kind of aid for Central America linked to reforms and such and gang violence...thus likely not have as big a refugee crisis
likely still have better relations and travel to Cuba

Would not likely have pulled troops out in a whim and abandoned Kurds in syria...against military advice-giving Russia the win in Syria
Also would likely have not mucked up the Nuclear Weapon Limits from the I think it was 1964 and Salt treaties
Likely would not have abandoned the 'pandemic study group' in the last year and the actual pandemic response team in full in last 2 years of the CDC ..center of disease control
and probably would have been more likely to take the threat of current pandemic seriously like Obama and SARS and announce national defense act and such response like Obama
before any deaths from sars back in the day...to get the military and infrastructure in place to move stuff where needed

Would have released his tax forms...all of them and separated business concerns in a trust like all previous presidents to trump has done
Also, would have (even if republican's see below) much more moderate supreme court picks (two)

OF COURSE

you could make the argument than a 'responsible' Republican from back in the day like John McCain or Mitt Romney MAY have done most of the list above also
but whatever your politics on above...we'd have a hell of a lot less drama in the world IMHO

Brad

So on the whole, Trump is doing a good job.

[sirazimuth]

Of course it fucking matters.

Um...no it doesn't, but that's just my opinion... yrmv

Trump is the only american politician who is not a leftie.

What planet are you from? Then again your "leftie" (you like using  that term don't you?) definition might differ from mine.
But yeah, whatever, I agree he's not a "leftie" (wtf that means) he's a phukking moron.

There is nobody to replace him.

Well I hope you are right and if you are, thank phuk for that.

[Gyrsur]

please MODs of bitcointalk.org have mercy with me. free my bot account "Gyrsur_Bot" for future automated posting like this post below. thank you very much!

   Bitstamp    6795.00 USD   
(source: Bitstamp API)

this is an automated post but unfortunately I'm not able to post it via my bot account Gyrsur_Bot because of restrictions.

From the notice, it seems to me that you have to pay the evil units fee... which is around $30... Also from the notice, it appeared that if you try to get the account whitelisted, you will likely get the account permanently banned.

I don't want to make theymos more rich but could be it is the only option I have. but on the other hand if he is unlucky and maybe will die because of COVID-19 what is the advantage?

excuse me I was too harsh on theymos! he is young and will get through the crisis because he is smart enough to manage it. again sorry theymos!

[sirazimuth]

So on the whole, Trump is doing a good job.

Coming from someone as intelligent as you are, I find that statement intellectually dishonest.
But again that's my opinion and you know what they say about opinions...
Opinions are like assholes....everyone has one and they all stink....

[heslo]

Wow, didn't realise what I posted would cause so much drama. Apologies for that. All I meant by it is that those morons in that video suffer from the same selective reasonings and echo chamber mentality that (most) bcashes also fall victim to. A quick visit to the /r/btc subreddit will show you just that. That doesn't mean BCH doesn't work and that you can't transfer value... just that the reasonings for its existence are flawed and serve to push an agenda. Maybe I shouldn't have tried to shoe horn a BCH dig into a matter so serious; I'll think differently next time

Raja, I'm sorry mate, terrible news, thoughts are with you

Hey, heslo.  To the extent that you are kicking yourself (or apologizing) at any level for denigrating bcash or any of its variants, or bringing up the topic in a negative way, you should not feel any regrets.

Fuck bcash and its variant other shitcoin similitudes and other shitcoins too.  Fuck them all, and fuck the complications that might come in the event that you might receive some shitcoin and have to figure out how to cash it out for fiat or for bitcoin.

Yeah, some of us might be able to dance our way around some of these shitcoins, but frequently we might end up in some kind of vulnerability or some other bullshit when we are trying to deal with some of the shitcoins which might be o.k. for some of the more hard core bitcoiners amongst us, but surely could either fuck some other people up or turn them off to bitcoin too when they end up getting screwed over by some shitcoin, aka just like corona virus in several comparable ways.

I'm not sorry for shitting on BCH, I'm sorry for the drama I caused in here by saying it. Now probably isn't the time for everyone to be at each other arguing talking points, especially with all the shit going on. But yeah, you're right, fuck them all