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[philipma1957]

Still alive, thanks so much to everyone for your replies and merits. Good advices given that will help me get through this.

You don't fully realise the seriousness of COVID-19 until you get it. I still don't actually know if what I have is COVID-19, but symptoms point to that direction... Should do a test to find out. Until now I'm confined at home with zero contact with others.

Now on day 4 from onset of symptoms. By day 5-6, and if things get serious, I should be getting shortness of breath, at which point I should be admitted to hospital. If this does not happen, then it may be possible to fight this at home on my own. I hope so.

Please be very careful.
I had covid in the family and while we were looking after him the rest of the family were at risk. Family member died in hospital after a long struggle. He was in ICU and everything was done to cure him. He died on 24th November. After 3 weeks we all had chest X-ray and inaction were visible in the film. We are under treatment but thank god that we decided to have this X-ray. Family doctor suggested it actually.

No one in the family have sever condition but we are in medication and hoping the infection will be clean soon.

Please stay alert all the time. It's a disease not to be afraid of but to be alert and have awareness about it. Have vitamin C type foods, foods with Zinc. Also keep your body active.

Good luck bud.

Watch for lung damage.  My wife and I got Sick  Dec 31 2019 I shook it by Jan 31 2020.  She developed 2x pneumonia was hospitalized in Mid Jan 2020. She finally shook the infection in early march. Say 65 days.  But she has lung damage.  We have been trading her for it (damaged lungs for 10 months). She was hospitalized in OCT for a procedure to help the lung issues.

And finally she is improving with breathing.  Her O2 was as low as 87.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QDMR6XK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2W69QLKDNW5O5&psc=1.

 She now gets 97 to 99. Still lung scarring but using this lung exercising device

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010MAF7GE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2LYX7FKX6AP16&psc=1

after steaming with this device

 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075FYVVFH/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1


along with medicines has improved her a lot.

We had 115K in medical bills for her last year.  Lucky for insurance we paid about 6k of that. A lot better than 115k

2020 was a mother fucker of a year for us.

If you go for lung rehab do it after doctor approval. Make sure infections are gone.

Good luck to anyone that has covid-19 issues.

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[vapourminer]

Still alive, thanks so much to everyone for your replies and merits. Good advices given that will help me get through this.
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You should purchase a 'Pulse Oximeter
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Solid advice.

Get well soon AlcoHoDL!

hang in there alcohodl, be better soon.

pulse oximiter and also a spirometer. helps teach breathing control. check these should give you an idea

https://www.amazon.com/spirometer/s?k=spirometer

less than $20

EDIT: phil beat me mentioning the spirometer (well lung exerciser)

[vapourminer]

these new ants that have been behind this pump.. i must say im (mildly) impressed. we need moar bigger ants still though


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Them!

[philipma1957]

these new ants that have been behind this pump.. i must say im (mildly) impressed. we need moar bigger ants still though


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Them!

I am stoked. What a good start for 2021.  

I sold more Doge today.  my sales have been 250000 coins. in 2 days.

I converted to Fiat, BTC and LTC


With some help from

fr4nkthetank

-> So far 2021 is a very good year. Grin. and 2020 is in hindsight done with.

2020 was a really good year if you are still healthy and alive.  Time to listen to the Proudhon song again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TuFy0fcuw&feature=youtu.be
I think he's still posting...

I never heard the song. 

[UnDerDoG81]

Shit I panic bought a lot at 26800€ and now we go south 

[JimboToronto]

Good morning Bitcoinland and Happy Birthday.

12 years old and like any adolescent, starting to show signs of growing up.



The daily ATHs keep coming ($34800 Stamp) with only minimal corrections to keep it honest... currently $33427USD/$42552CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

We all knew 2021 was going to be a big year for Bitcoin's price but this is almost getting ridiculous. Yesterday was one for the ages.

Go Bitcoin go.
____

Get well Alcohodl!

[OutOfMemory]

Shit I panic bought a lot at 26800€ and now we go south 

Trust king daddy.
don't mindrust it.

[d_eddie]

my grandma is 93. she has been a tarot fortuneteller for more than 50 years. this morning she called me and told me bitcoin was at $34k and that it will hit 80k before a significant pull back. this is unprecedented. in all those years that i am involved in bitcoin, she never made a price prediction. and she rarely ever calls me. (by the way: she will get her covid vaccine tomorrow)

caution! i dont know if she was referring to $ or € when she talked about 80k  

Dammit where is that guy who posted sort of a WO digest here? We need him now. I don't remember his name...

Breaking:
*New ATH today.  
*AlkoHODL fighting covid
*ivomm getting on Forbes list in his home country
*Bullish grandma predicts 80k
*Bawb & Rick buying Texas
etc...

EDIT: xhomer comes up with limited edition hat to commemorate El Dude quitting his McDonalds job 

   

Serveria is the new JSRAW?

[d_eddie]

@AlcoHODL
If it's our spiked little friend, it's a nasty critter, but you're strong. I had friends contract covid and restored to 100% in a couple of weeks. Others paid a larger bill, but still alive and kicking (and they are older than what I think you are). It really varies wildly from person to person.

Hodl on!

[johhnyUA]

Just wow! My current (unrealized) networth places me in the company of the 900 richest people in my country, according to the official statistics. I guess there are some more hodlers like me not counted by that statistic. Anyway, this is a good occasion to celebrate! Cheers mates! (I've emptied 2 champaigne bottles just celebrating the previous ATH's  )

Lol, this is reason not to celebrate, rather to worry about. If you're in European country, taxes can be up to 50-60 % of your potential wealth (VAT + income tax) and if you're not in EU or USA you should better run there, because in any other country you have a big probability to lost your head not only from bitcoin price rising.

And yeah guys, you can remember my words, but in near future, at least in EU and USA there will be new taxes. And majority of people will support this, because noone wants to feel himself bad while his nerdy neighbor has become a billionaire. in UK for example bitcoin is forbidden now (i know that in fact not "forbidden" but anyway high restrictions)

Here is already memes about how "it's not fair":


So yeah, the great expropriation is coming 

[JSRAW]

my grandma is 93. she has been a tarot fortuneteller for more than 50 years. this morning she called me and told me bitcoin was at $34k and that it will hit 80k before a significant pull back. this is unprecedented. in all those years that i am involved in bitcoin, she never made a price prediction. and she rarely ever calls me. (by the way: she will get her covid vaccine tomorrow)

caution! i dont know if she was referring to $ or € when she talked about 80k  

Dammit where is that guy who posted sort of a WO digest here? We need him now. I don't remember his name...

Breaking:
*New ATH today.  
*AlkoHODL fighting covid
*ivomm getting on Forbes list in his home country
*Bullish grandma predicts 80k
*Bawb & Rick buying Texas
etc...

EDIT: xhomer comes up with limited edition hat to commemorate El Dude quitting his McDonalds job 

   

I heard you loud n clear spidey

Please give some time, was witnessing some repetitive content for quite some time so it was kinda tough and then got busy with irl stuff, will start updating recap and all the drama soon.

[bitserve]

@AlcoHoDL

I wish you a quick recovery and surely this is just a little bump of the road. Now that we almost made it, it's better that you just take some needed rest and come back stronger and with plenty of time to keep celebrating

[julian071]

Just wow! My current (unrealized) networth places me in the company of the 900 richest people in my country, according to the official statistics. I guess there are some more hodlers like me not counted by that statistic. Anyway, this is a good occasion to celebrate! Cheers mates! (I've emptied 2 champaigne bottles just celebrating the previous ATH's  )

Lol, this is reason not to celebrate, rather to worry about. If you're in European country, taxes can be up to 50-60 % of your potential wealth (VAT + income tax) and if you're not in EU or USA you should better run there, because in any other country you have a big probability to lost your head not only from bitcoin price rising.

And yeah guys, you can remember my words, but in near future, at least in EU and USA there will be new taxes. And majority of people will support this, because noone wants to feel himself bad while his nerdy neighbor has become a billionaire. in UK for example bitcoin is forbidden now (i know that in fact not "forbidden" but anyway high restrictions)

So yeah, the great expropriation is coming 

If you don't like taxes you should indeed move, to a country with bad roads, a bad justice system and bad healthcare. Good luck with that.

Do you have a reputable source for your claim about rising taxes on property? My guess is the same source as the 50-60% you mention.

Anyway, if you do like good roads and healthcare and stuff like that, but still want to pay as little as possible on your wealth, then move to The Netherlands. Not a very patriotic thing to do but you're welcome here anyway.

[JimboToronto]

Wow. Someone's frantically trying to drive the price down but walls are being eaten (Watching Bitstamp).

Many coins changing hands. These are exciting times.

[johhnyUA]

If you don't like taxes you should indeed move, to a country with bad roads, a bad justice system and bad healthcare. Good luck with that.

Do you have a reputable source for your claim about rising taxes on property? My guess is the same source as the 50-60% you mention.

Anyway, if you do like good roads and healthcare and stuff like that, but still want to pay as little as possible on your wealth, then move to The Netherlands. Not a very patriotic thing to do but you're welcome here anyway.

I'm not telling here is big taxes good or not itself, just should admit that narrative about "high taxes - good roads, healthcare courts" not right. There many places in the world with high taxes and low life. And for example, Switzerland has something like 25 % (upper limit which depends from canton to canton) income tax in the same time, France has (if i remember correctly) something like 40 %. And i think it's obvious where is better to live.

But my above replica was not about that.

Do you have a reputable source for your claim about rising taxes on property?

Just my observation. Look around yourself. Many young people are leftists, "eat rich" and so on. And if they don't want to endure such people as Jeff Bezos (who get his money from his hard work) they will not tolerate bitcoin millionaires for sure. And governments will use this intolerance for their own needs. I can be wrong, but it looks like that now.

then move to The Netherlands

Even if bitcoin will hit one million, i will never live in a country where guns are prohibited

[Poker Player]

If you don't like taxes you should indeed move, to a country with bad roads, a bad justice system and bad healthcare. Good luck with that.

Do you have a reputable source for your claim about rising taxes on property? My guess is the same source as the 50-60% you mention.

Anyway, if you do like good roads and healthcare and stuff like that, but still want to pay as little as possible on your wealth, then move to The Netherlands. Not a very patriotic thing to do but you're welcome here anyway.

You say that as if taxes were spent only on roads and health care. And as if all countries with low taxes were banana republics. I think it's so obvious that I don't have to explain that both things are false.

I believe that taxes must be paid, but in the dilemma between paying a lot of taxes and paying little, I prefer to pay little, because politicians in industrialized countries, who, in their majority, do not stop raising taxes, what they do is increase political spending, and not so much improve health care or roads. They spend the money on things they think will get people to vote for them, which is usually not, and in fact most of the time not, the best way to spend the money.

[Paashaas]

Dutch broker Bitonic = SOLD OUT!

Last time this happend was in 2017.




https://www.viewbase.com/coin/bitcoin

[julian071]

I'm not telling here is big taxes good or not itself, just should admit that narrative about "high taxes - good roads, healthcare courts" not right. There many places in the world with high taxes and low life. And for example, Switzerland has something like 25 % (upper limit which depends from canton to canton) income tax in the same time, France has (if i remember correctly) something like 40 %. And i think it's obvious where is better to live.

But my above replica was not about that.

Do you have a reputable source for your claim about rising taxes on property?

Just my observation. Look around yourself. Many young people are leftists, "eat rich" and so on. And if they don't want to endure such people as Jeff Bezos (who get his money from his hard work) they will not tolerate bitcoin millionaires for sure. And governments will use this intolerance for their own needs. I can be wrong, but it looks like that now.

then move to The Netherlands

Even if bitcoin will hit one million, i will never live in a country where guns are prohibited

Well I do see a strong correlation between taxes and public services. As you have to pay taxes to pay for public services. Low taxes simply mean worse public services, and then you'll have to pay privately for those services. Which means your income before taxes is higher, but after you pay your medical bills etc might not look so good.

I do observe and look around and i do not have to pay 50-60%  on my wealth. I do not have to pay income tax on my holdings, just 1-3%.

Good news for you: guns are not prohibited here. You can have guns and shoot them.

[eddie13]

I have my own health insurance that costs me like $20 a week.. I wouldn’t trade it for any of those “free” government healthcare schemes..

The way to actually get the BEST healthcare in the world, is to pay cash for it, in the USA..
If you don’t have health insurance and just say “I’m paying cash”, they say “right this way sir”..

If I sell BTC I have to pay 15% long term cap gains and at a 0 zero $ cost basis (because I didn’t pay anything for my BTC), along with regular income tax, with audit insurance for about $150..
So basically 15% of the amount sold..

Prayers for AlcoHoDL

[xhomerx10]

Just wow! My current (unrealized) networth places me in the company of the 900 richest people in my country, according to the official statistics. I guess there are some more hodlers like me not counted by that statistic. Anyway, this is a good occasion to celebrate! Cheers mates! (I've emptied 2 champaigne bottles just celebrating the previous ATH's  )

Lol, this is reason not to celebrate, rather to worry about. If you're in European country, taxes can be up to 50-60 % of your potential wealth (VAT + income tax) and if you're not in EU or USA you should better run there, because in any other country you have a big probability to lost your head not only from bitcoin price rising.

And yeah guys, you can remember my words, but in near future, at least in EU and USA there will be new taxes. And majority of people will support this, because noone wants to feel himself bad while his nerdy neighbor has become a billionaire. in UK for example bitcoin is forbidden now (i know that in fact not "forbidden" but anyway high restrictions)

Here is already memes about how "it's not fair":


So yeah, the great expropriation is coming 

 Right!  Because memes are harbingers of a dystopian future?

 I don't think so.