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February 02, 2021, 04:52:00 AM
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Biodom / Bawb / all,

Hey. Lurker since ..... whenever this account was created back in the day. Not OG, but close enough.

I've actually logged in to my account intermittently to post / ask about this very issue several times since then.

Bawb - if you end up going this route, please post up your experiences.

I look forward to the day I can cash out without having to cash out. That's the dream.

Still hung up on the not your keys, not your coins - but a brother would REALLY like some interest.

Thanks.
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February 02, 2021, 05:22:55 AM

Sofia, the Bulgarian capital, sells bus tickets for BTC and even gives a discount to users of the cryptocurrency.
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February 02, 2021, 05:57:47 AM

Ok whos pumping

Ants 🐜
It seems
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February 02, 2021, 06:18:18 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJd3LO6u1vY
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February 02, 2021, 06:38:08 AM
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I thought of you philipma1957 when I dumped my bags, still got heavy bag tho.

To me I hodled it as a Joke.
 
1,000,000 was the peak I had at 0.0025 about $2500.00

fucker kept going up. If my 440,000 coins left get unstuck and I sell 290,000 at 4 cents. 

I will have turned 2500 usd worth into 24,600 In under six months.
I received bags as thank_you_gift from one of my colleague back in 2017, it was my first coin. Now will send him thank you gift. Smiley

This is going on for last 3-4 years so its business as usual. Blanket Ban is virtually impossible in India.



Well, I'l grab some more popcorn then. I need to see india divide in a bunch of smaller states and watch how their armies clash between each other while China will try a land grab at the border. Smiley  Roll Eyes
Colonialism and partition wounds are still very fresh in the Indian Psyche. Before leaving India Poms divided India into 565 princely states but we came together so It already happened in the past and not going to happen again. India does have many problems but one thing Indians do very well that how to handle diversity and stick to each other despite their differences.
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February 02, 2021, 07:06:46 AM
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Those considering that gemini 'earn' thingie better read this:

https://www.gemini.com/legal/gemini-earn-program-terms-and-authorization-agreement#section-5-making-loans-to-borrowers

Basically, Gemini is just facilitating your lending. They have no or almost no 'skin' in the game and if the Joe-shmoe (called Genesis or whatever, apparently) ever defaults, say bye-bye to your bitcoin.
For that non-involvement they are being compensated quite nicely:

https://www.gemini.com/fees/gemini-earn-fees#section-fee-schedule

Not that comp is relevant here, but they, gemini, are taking 4.74% themselves, leaving 2.74% to you.
btc is slightly fairer with 3.05 to 1.08 split

What a nice deal overall....not.
We need to earn on DEXes-that's the real way forward.

Wow whole 3% APY and they don't even guarantee your money, where do i sign up (not).
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February 02, 2021, 07:38:27 AM
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4 year shift

16x price shift




July 2017 looks the most similar to our current situation...
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February 02, 2021, 08:02:11 AM
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Those considering that gemini 'earn' thingie better read this:

https://www.gemini.com/legal/gemini-earn-program-terms-and-authorization-agreement#section-5-making-loans-to-borrowers

Basically, Gemini is just facilitating your lending. They have no or almost no 'skin' in the game and if the Joe-shmoe (called Genesis or whatever, apparently) ever defaults, say bye-bye to your bitcoin.
For that non-involvement they are being compensated quite nicely:

https://www.gemini.com/fees/gemini-earn-fees#section-fee-schedule

Not that comp is relevant here, but they, gemini, are taking 4.74% themselves, leaving 2.74% to you.
btc is slightly fairer with 3.05 to 1.08 split

What a nice deal overall....not.
We need to earn on DEXes-that's the real way forward.

Wow whole 3% APY and they don't even guarantee your money, where do i sign up (not).

If everyone began to send their coins to these institutions wouldn’t that enable the market manipulators to open larger short positions since there would be more BTC available to borrow?
This in turn would mean that “they” would be able to push the market down harder and faster.
If everyone just kept a hold of their BTC until the moment they wanted to sell then there would literally be no BTC available to borrow to open shorts.
Or am I being too naive here?
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February 02, 2021, 08:12:37 AM
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re: Gemini Earn, I greatly appreciate the points you folk have raised by looking into the terms and fine print.

Have decided to opt out of the program because something doesn't pass the sniff test for me.

Redeeming the coins I have locked into the Earn program, will not be available to use in my trading account until February 9th. That got a raised eyebrow out of me.
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February 02, 2021, 08:24:36 AM
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Media seems really desperate at this point...  Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1356253787011371008

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February 02, 2021, 08:35:12 AM
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Those considering that gemini 'earn' thingie better read this:

https://www.gemini.com/legal/gemini-earn-program-terms-and-authorization-agreement#section-5-making-loans-to-borrowers

Basically, Gemini is just facilitating your lending. They have no or almost no 'skin' in the game and if the Joe-shmoe (called Genesis or whatever, apparently) ever defaults, say bye-bye to your bitcoin.
For that non-involvement they are being compensated quite nicely:

https://www.gemini.com/fees/gemini-earn-fees#section-fee-schedule

Not that comp is relevant here, but they, gemini, are taking 4.74% themselves, leaving 2.74% to you.
btc is slightly fairer with 3.05 to 1.08 split

What a nice deal overall....not.
We need to earn on DEXes-that's the real way forward.

Wow whole 3% APY and they don't even guarantee your money, where do i sign up (not).

If everyone began to send their coins to these institutions wouldn’t that enable the market manipulators to open larger short positions since there would be more BTC available to borrow?
This in turn would mean that “they” would be able to push the market down harder and faster.
If everyone just kept a hold of their BTC until the moment they wanted to sell then there would literally be no BTC available to borrow to open shorts.
Or am I being too naive here?

Yeah sure you're technically correct. But shorting only works short term. If you believe BTC is inevitable, you can earn interest and buy more BTC cheaper while traders try to hold the price down  Grin
For short profits the mantra is don't give bears opportunity to short, they can use the ammo for flash crashes and other manipulation. But on the other hand if someone wants to bet against BTC i say let them try, just make sure to make them pay for it, i'd need more than 3% and broker guarantee. No free BTC for flash crashes
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February 02, 2021, 08:58:07 AM

If anyone needs a new headset you got 11 hours.
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February 02, 2021, 09:23:21 AM

Finally a pump not for ants.
Feb. 2nd
Who would have thunk?!

Grayscale?

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February 02, 2021, 10:27:52 AM
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February 02, 2021, 10:32:52 AM

Finally a pump not for ants.
Feb. 2nd
Who would have thunk?!

Grayscale?



Such pumps are often short-lived... Let's see if we can stay over 35k for 24 hours, at least...
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Is that you, Arrie?  Grin
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February 02, 2021, 10:40:01 AM
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So it seems RobinHood had a good reason to stop people buying stocks, that wasn't because they're chilling for the big guys : they didn't have the money to actually make the buys, and didn't have coverage anymore to do naked buys since the price was going crazy.

It's not really better for them because they're not actually saying this, instead they're lying about it.

I was wondering if other apps had similar problems and apparently it's the case of eToro, they're now putting short stops on people's positions without their consent, without even telling them, and the only way to remove them is to add money to your account. We're talking about long, non leveraged positions here, so there shouldn't be any need to cover !
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February 02, 2021, 10:53:04 AM

So it seems RobinHood had a good reason to stop people buying stocks, that wasn't because they're chilling for the big guys : they didn't have the money to actually make the buys, and didn't have coverage anymore to do naked buys since the price was going crazy.

It's not really better for them because they're not actually saying this, instead they're lying about it.

I was wondering if other apps had similar problems and apparently it's the case of eToro, they're now putting short stops on people's positions without their consent, without even telling them, and the only way to remove them is to add money to your account. We're talking about long, non leveraged positions here, so there shouldn't be any need to cover !
Can a broker legally sell you out of a long without so much as asking your permission?
I know they have to do it to survive, but if it's illegal, then the broker should default and go out of business.  Not steal your long positions.
Breaking the law to survive is still breaking the law.
If I had to choose between starving and robbing a bank, and I robbed a bank, I would still go to jail for it.
These brokers are robbing people.  Instead of robbing people, the brokers have to eat shit and die, because it's the right thing to do.
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February 02, 2021, 11:01:14 AM

Yeah I don't understand how that's possible either.
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February 02, 2021, 11:20:21 AM

As far as i have understood it: Robinhood is ONLY giving you a margin account. So they are allowed to liquidate your margin long position, if the prices moves against you.

The interesting part of these "Neobrokers" is just this conclusion: You never buy stocks there.
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