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[JayJuanGee]

Buying this dip with orders all the way down to $45k... for now. Already got filled @ $47.5k

Can we try to sort through these kinds of crappy headlines, rather than just repeating them?

In other words, what the fuck is O'Leary referring to?

Sure it looks like he might be ONLY investing into bitcoin, but is he investing in ONLY bitcoin, or does he have some kind of diversification into some kinds of shitcoins/"crypto"?

Because if he is ONLY investing into bitcoin, then that should be noted a bit more clearly (no?) - especially for when we are referring to those kinds of matters in this thread, right?, and maybe he could be applauded for investing in ONLY bitcoin if he were to be engaging in some kind of rationale to be join the ranks of the Saylor and Musk type investors into Bitcoin - though there likely are not too many of the BIG institutional kinds of guys that are going to be reaching the "gung-ho" level of Saylor in the near-term, and if O'Leary is somewhat or partially distracted by shitcoins or the concept of "crypto" that should be noted as well, including if it might not be clear in the whole scheme of things about what he is doing, exactly.  

For example, with Musk, there is all kinds of hoopla in various discussions in regards to some of Musk's shitcoin tweets, but in the end, it really appears that his company (TESLA) is not so distracted, and they are only investing into bitcoin with their recent use of about $1.5billion in company funds to buy bitcoin.. sure we might not know some of the details including whether they might be still buying or considering more bitcoin buys, but there is also no evidence establishing that the company (TESLA) itself is actually investing in any other crypto besides bitcoin.

So?  What's the deal-lee-O with O'Leary and his investments in bitcoin?  Does there seem to be a difference between what he is saying and what he is doing, or is it merely the reporting on the topic that is convoluting (or diluting) the bitcoin topic?

[Dabs]

I wouldn't normally take a look at bitcoin.com (dot com) as that's an altcoiner's site, but I guess news is news. It also appears in other places about Kevin O'Leary.

[Sayeds56]

I wouldn't normally take a look at bitcoin.com (dot com) as that's an altcoiner's site, but I guess news is news. It also appears in other places about Kevin O'Leary.

I think it is not bad news for Bitcoin.

[OutOfMemory]

This is just becoming too annoying.

ignoreList.addEntryByUsername('savetherainforest');

Annoying indeed, and going the way of a more articulated gembitz. In his partial defense, he wasn't always like that. Possible explanations: (a) he got his account stolen (or sold it),  (b) he became a sour nocoiner due to boat accident, mindrusting, thoughtless spending or other reasons, (c) he is overdoing some pleasant poison, in powder or liquid form.

Thanks for pointing that out, eddie.
I mostly got annoyed by the shitcoin talk, amongst other things.
He may become the "old" STRF again, i'll check ignored users from time to time, that's how Marcus_of_Augustus got off my list.
It would be nice to be able to add a note to each ignored user, because i can't remember why i ignored MoA in the first place, while i think it was about racist talk, iirc.

[AlcoHoDL]

every try to get new the 50k will be disruped by sell of a larger amout of coins. Second time. we were at 49750... and the next moment (no real pattern break visible) 48900 until a little rebounce... Same pattern in Jan and last week. Every time near 50k ...

Another round number psychological hurdle. As much as traders like to claim they operate on logic they seem mostly to operate on something else. We'll be fighting for every 10k milestone until 100k probably.

I think $50k and $100k will be the hardest, followed by $200k, $500k, and $1M.

These are the so called "powers", "halves" and "doubles". $100k is a power, $50k is a half, $200k is a double. Same with $1M (a power) and $500k (a half). These tend to be the most difficult to permanently cross, mainly for psychological reasons. Adding a bit of math & science to the mix, the sequence {..., 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, ...} is fairly evenly spaced on a log scale, which fits nicely with the price progressions on most price prediction models for Bitcoin.

The above sequence is also being used for voltage/time selection in oscilloscopes, and in most other instruments.



tl;dr: When we cross $50k for good, the rise to $100k could be faster that expected, but will not be easy to permanently cross. Brace yourselves, and never forget: HoDL.

[d_eddie]

tl;dr: When we cross $50k for good, the rise to $100k could be faster that expected. Brace yourselves, and never forget: HoDL.

I agree with your SOMA forecast of the 50-to-100 trajectory.
I'm tempted to WOsMerit you, but I'm afraid of inflation.
What can you expect from a bitcoiner?
Next time I won't refrain, serious.

[Sayeds56]

every try to get new the 50k will be disruped by sell of a larger amout of coins. Second time. we were at 49750... and the next moment (no real pattern break visible) 48900 until a little rebounce... Same pattern in Jan and last week. Every time near 50k ...

Another round number psychological hurdle. As much as traders like to claim they operate on logic they seem mostly to operate on something else. We'll be fighting for every 10k milestone until 100k probably.

I think $50k and $100k will be the hardest, followed by $200k, $500k, and $1M.

These are the so called "powers", "halves" and "doubles". $100k is a power, $50k is a half, $200k is a double. Same with $1M (a power) and $500k (a half). These tend to be the most difficult to permanently cross, mainly for psychological reasons. Adding a bit of math & science to the mix, the sequence {..., 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, ...} is fairly evenly spaced on a log scale, which fits nicely with the price progressions on most price prediction models for Bitcoin.

The above sequence is also being used for voltage/time selection in oscilloscopes, and in most other instruments.



tl;dr: When we cross $50k for good, the rise to $100k could be faster that expected. Brace yourselves, and never forget: HoDL.

[Torque]

Buying this dip with orders all the way down to $45k... for now. Already got filled @ $47.5k

O’Leary had always been worried about regulators coming down hard on bitcoin. In December, he warned that “Grown men are going to weep when that happens. You will never see a loss of capital like that ever in your life. It will be brutal.”

Another elitist loser who can go absolutely fuck himself.

Sorry Kevin, but you don't get to go from "bitcoin is absolute garbage" and "will crash to zero", in the span of 2 months, to "bitcoin is great! I'm investing now!" without getting ripped a new one in the court of public opinion.

He's just another asshole wealthy elite who got kickbacks for slamming Bitcoin for years, in order to sway Average Joe away from investing in it.

FU, Kevin!

[Biodom]

He's just another asshole wealthy elite who got kickbacks for slamming Bitcoin for years, in order to sway Average Joe away from investing in it.

FU, Kevin!

Yes, indeed.

The only question is whether the market that is dominated by assholes would remain the same market we love or it would become an "asshole market"?
Judging by today's bipolar trading, it does a little bit look like an asshole-driven market, just different assholes, maybe.
Before, we were shaking fists at Bitmex, now maybe WS arrogant nincompoops...I can barely stand all that bloviation.

[Dabs]

Sorry Kevin, but you don't get to go from "bitcoin is absolute garbage" and "will crash to zero", in the span of 2 months, to "bitcoin is great! I'm investing now!" without getting ripped a new one in the court of public opinion.

He's just another asshole wealthy elite who got kickbacks for slamming Bitcoin for years, in order to sway Average Joe away from investing in it.

FU, Kevin!

By that line of thinking, FU everyone else elitist arseholes just getting into bitcoin now. FU Peter Shiff because I know you're trying to dump your gold and get some bitcoins now. FU all the new billionaires ... see, eventually all of them will get some corns, so FU to them all huh...

[savetherainforest]

This is just becoming too annoying.

ignoreList.addEntryByUsername('savetherainforest');

Prepare to buy the dip at $39K $139K !!!

Here fixed it for you!  

*edit(): But its obvious that I don't rly want that to happen, cuz that would mean I would have to wait some more so I can sell a bit at $60K.

Don't worry Save the RF... You can easily earn around $100 every few minutes anyhow, so it's NOT like you won't be able to live decently well in the coming years... just think about it?  you are earning thousands of dollars an hour... so I have not really heard of $1million dollar income people not being in decently good positions - so why should you give any shits about if bitcoin goes down to $39k or up to $60k.. blah blah blah.?

By the way, for some strange reason, your actions and your words are just NOT adding up;.... it's like quasi-incoherent to attempt to follow your ideas (to the extent that you have any ideas beyond your wanting BTC prices to go down to below $40k.. which may well NOT happen.. and it may well be true that today could be amongst the last days to buy below $50k.. not that I really have any ideas.. just suggesting some possible outcomes of our current consolidations which does not necessarily result in down... and probably have greater chances to reach supra $60k before sub $40k.. perhaps?  perhaps?

I give a sh!t because I'm trying to help small new comers as I was when I started and I was listening to this thread but not any of you gave any sh!t to give an actual accurate and decent prediction to help me with my trades in increasing my stash!!!    
But to be fair to all of you posting sh!tfest memes here, some of you did post some charts and I had to learn the hard way to understand and read them. (even if u didn't say bad or good predictions)

Also for those who are reading what I say, when I say predictions. It might not go to $30K < > $39K. But for now $42K < > $44K is very real from the charts.  (Then its going Up and down on a spread of 2-3K in case of any of you trade... till around $55K ... then after that I don't know cuz we are not there yet! )



*edit():  AND I DO NOT F&CKING WANT FOR THE PRICE TO GO DOWN!!! I'm just telling u wtf is happening from the trades I make, and how I see the market moving. And for now there is some kind of shortage of cash or bitcoin.

But for now..... THE BATTLE FOR 44K AWAITS !!! If that holds... then we are going up. Prepare to panic buy on 44K+ if it goes up after a few attempts to break it.

*edit():  And not everyone is an 'idle hodler' like most of you. Some around here might be active traders or that follow this thread from the shadows like I did for a year or two before joining and creating an account.

[yefi]

Doesn't that O'Leary guy have a video from back in 2013 where he was positive on bitcoin and was dabbling in it? So he made a volte-face, and then another volte-face?

[cAPSLOCK]

Buying this dip with orders all the way down to $45k... for now. Already got filled @ $47.5k

O’Leary had always been worried about regulators coming down hard on bitcoin. In December, he warned that “Grown men are going to weep when that happens. You will never see a loss of capital like that ever in your life. It will be brutal.”

Another elitist loser who can go absolutely fuck himself.

Sorry Kevin, but you don't get to go from "bitcoin is absolute garbage" and "will crash to zero", in the span of 2 months, to "bitcoin is great! I'm investing now!" without getting ripped a new one in the court of public opinion.

He's just another asshole wealthy elite who got kickbacks for slamming Bitcoin for years, in order to sway Average Joe away from investing in it.

FU, Kevin!

Also you don't go from casting major shade ~1/22 and "Oh wow... I somehow just put 3% of my wealth into it!  It's great!" a month and a half later.

Like you say... he's outright talking his bags the whole way.

[cAPSLOCK]

Sorry Kevin, but you don't get to go from "bitcoin is absolute garbage" and "will crash to zero", in the span of 2 months, to "bitcoin is great! I'm investing now!" without getting ripped a new one in the court of public opinion.

He's just another asshole wealthy elite who got kickbacks for slamming Bitcoin for years, in order to sway Average Joe away from investing in it.

FU, Kevin!

By that line of thinking, FU everyone else elitist arseholes just getting into bitcoin now. FU Peter Shiff because I know you're trying to dump your gold and get some bitcoins now. FU all the new billionaires ... see, eventually all of them will get some corns, so FU to them all huh...

I think there is some nuance in here...  People can change their mind for sure...  But in this dudes case, it's nearly impossible for him not to have been taking a position while he was badmouthing the asset.

[savetherainforest]

[...]

By the way, for some strange reason, your actions and your words are just NOT adding up;.... it's like quasi-incoherent to attempt to follow your ideas [...]

I'm a 29* degree Pisces.     ... If you might know what does that mean, that means that I'm kinda invisible and I deal with the ignorance of a lot of people a f!cking LOT!.  ... Just some might 'observe' me.

[Cryptotourist]

Like you say... he's outright talking his bags the whole way.

What a fuck face, looks outright like Calvin Ayre's mega cunt cousin.


STRF ... giving precise predictions - on anything - does not help, and I don't care how many degrees Pisces.

[savetherainforest]

Like you say... he's outright talking his bags the whole way.

What a fuck face, looks outright like Calvin Ayre's mega cunt cousin.


STRF ... giving precise predictions - on anything - does not help, and I don't care how many degrees Pisces.

kk... hfsp.

[serveria.com]

Like you say... he's outright talking his bags the whole way.

What a fuck face, looks outright like Calvin Ayre's mega cunt cousin.


STRF ... giving precise predictions - on anything - does not help, and I don't care how many degrees Pisces.

kk... hfsp.

WTF is going on? Shitcoiner saying HFSP to a bitcoiner? Are you high or drunk or something?

[JayJuanGee]

[edited out]

I give a sh!t because I'm trying to help small new comers as I was when I started and I was listening to this thread but not any of you gave any sh!t to give an actual accurate and decent prediction to help me with my trades in increasing my stash!!!    

Get the fuck out of here, Safe the RF...

You already likely realize that your prediction is hardly worth the paper that it could be printed on, if anyone would bother to print it.  You are not helping anyone, and you are largely just talking your book as you already admitted.

But to be fair to all of you posting sh!tfest memes here, some of you did post some charts and I had to learn the hard way to understand and read them. (even if u didn't say bad or good predictions)

If we are talking longer term, that's another story.. there are various decent models for that.  As far as short and medium term, hardly anyone here knows shit, even if they proclaim to know things.
So... gotta give you a BIG ASS ---- whatever... because, peeps are all over the place and they are going to be all over the place in terms of their short to medium term calls, and sure once in a while some of them might get lucky, but hardly means shit... its a BIG so fucking what.

Also for those who are reading what I say, when I say predictions. It might not go to $30K < > $39K.

Yes.. you are probably even more retarded than some of the others here who are trying to make short to medium term predictions, so consider that.  

But for now $42K < > $44K is very real from the charts.  (Then its going Up and down on a spread of 2-3K in case of any of you trade... till around $55K ... then after that I don't know cuz we are not there yet! )

Key words, are that you don't know cuz... and stop calling me cuz.

   

*edit():  AND I DO NOT F&CKING WANT FOR THE PRICE TO GO DOWN!!! I'm just telling u wtf is happening from the trades I make, and how I see the market moving. And for now there is some kind of shortage of cash or bitcoin.

But for now..... THE BATTLE FOR 44K AWAITS !!! If that holds... then we are going up. Prepare to panic buy on 44K+ if it goes up after a few attempts to break it.

Yes.. BTC prices go up and they go down.  They might go down to $44k and they might not.

*edit():  And not everyone is an 'idle hodler' like most of you. Some around here might be active traders or that follow this thread from the shadows like I did for a year or two before joining and creating an account.

Well one positive, is that for the moment, you are at least trying to talk about bitcoin.. so even if you are a retard, you are somewhat an on topic retard.