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October 17, 2023, 12:29:39 PM

Dammit mempool, you WIN!!!!

After 6 months of waiting for the mempool to empty, so i can open new LN Channels at 1sat/vbyte and have the last 3 pending channels confirmed (opened 6months ago).

I have given up! Will start opening at 3 or 4SATs/vbyte to make sure i have some sort of priority!

Have a few idled BTC to throw at this LN Node!.. Goal is 1,000,000,000SAT LN Node (10BTC) currently at 656,625,638 sat

EDIT: Transaction Confirmed!... 4 Confirmations already!..

EDIT: Also will be trying RBF for the first time, to push those unconfirmed TX... Let's see how that goes...

Please keep us informed. I want to know what 2 - 5 frozen btc will earn you monthly.

Even if it is 1 or 10 btc frozen in the node.I am trying to figure the practically to LN from the viewpoint of the staker of the node.

We got some info on a 17btc node a week or so ago. frankly the earnings on 17 btc tied up were very low.
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October 17, 2023, 01:39:44 PM
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Dammit mempool, you WIN!!!!

After 6 months of waiting for the mempool to empty, so i can open new LN Channels at 1sat/vbyte and have the last 3 pending channels confirmed (opened 6months ago).

I have given up! Will start opening at 3 or 4SATs/vbyte to make sure i have some sort of priority!

Have a few idled BTC to throw at this LN Node!.. Goal is 1,000,000,000SAT LN Node (10BTC) currently at 656,625,638 sat

EDIT: Transaction Confirmed!... 4 Confirmations already!..

EDIT: Also will be trying RBF for the first time, to push those unconfirmed TX... Let's see how that goes...

Please keep us informed. I want to know what 2 - 5 frozen btc will earn you monthly.

Even if it is 1 or 10 btc frozen in the node.I am trying to figure the practically to LN from the viewpoint of the staker of the node.

We got some info on a 17btc node a week or so ago. frankly the earnings on 17 btc tied up were very low.

If you are planning in running a LN Node to make a profit or close to break even, then you are going to need more than 10BTC. You will need to be one of the top tier LN nodes (200+ BTC)

This will be my third year with this LN Node and i can assure you i am way behind in terms of cost, but i am way in front, in terms of knowledge/understanding and access to new technology within the Bitcoin ecosystem.

I also have the opportunity to try new features and see how they work in a real world scenario and to me that is my profit.

I knew early in the game this wasn't going to be a way to earn any substantial amounts of Bitcoin and was happy to let it run and commit anywhere from 1-10BTC as needed.

It's now way too tedious to try and work out all the cost involved in opening and closing channels, especially when you have to force close it get very expensive and currently 323 closed channels. To review each one of those and work out the fees paid is job for another day. Maybe when I got a spare weekend.

But based on overall Routing Fee divided by Total Bitcoins in play, i am at about 0.00605% per year, which doesn't cover the cost of electricity to power the box!

I found a report from River Financial, they have about 360BTC across 2 nodes and earned roughly 0.3 BTC per month or 0.08% per month / 0.99% a year in routing fees.

https://river.com/learn/files/river-lightning-report-2023.pdf

Now, I've got a bone to pick with you....

The one thing i know we don't see eye to eye on, is, the fact you think Lightning Network is Staking.

This nothing close to the bullshit staking/bridges and wrapped shit everyone is so familiar with.

At all times i am still in control of my portion of Bitcoins within the LN Channel.

At anytime i can close/settle my channel, on-chain, using proof of work and have every single sat returned to my on-chain wallet without asking for permission.

No third party can ever rug pull or keep my bitcoin locked up! i can send and received as often as i want.

I don't see this as staking but a true Bitcoin Layer 2 Scaling Solution and i am not here to convince you otherwise, i just wanted to make a point that is a more than Staking ETH on a Polkadot or Burger Chain!

...... and i am also partly blaming you for the mempool backlog! Tongue

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October 17, 2023, 02:17:39 PM
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This will be my third year with this LN Node and i can assure you i am way behind in terms of cost, but i am way in front, in terms of knowledge/understanding and access to new technology within the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Damn bro this is some next level shit. I applaud your efforts, and its truly commendable to put yourself (and all that BTC) on the forefront of the tech like this. I could do with a less congested mempool myself. Good luck!
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We are already seeing great profits, 6% is enough to have a good month, and I think that more profits can come:

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“While this pivotal milestone was momentarily attained on futures, the spot market price peaked at $27.98k earlier today. It’s evident just how crucial this price point is in the larger scheme,” Allemann and Happel added.

“The rapid movements and these price thresholds aren’t just numbers. They signify investor sentiment, market dynamics. Keep an eye out for the 28k level.”



Source:https://cointelegraph.com/news/btc-price-holds-gains-bitcoin-28k-support

I don't see the Goal of so $30k as Difficult , for me it is a quick Achievement that can go over and Head towards $40k , the Most insecure are Beginning to show that the price can Increase , The best thing that can be Done now is Buy and Buy.

Those who can make the most difference are those who take advantage of the small windows of bitcoin's decline, because we know that it will have the highest price, I am hoping that it can rise to more than 100 thousand USD, I see it coming soon, this year? ?? could be..
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Dammit mempool, you WIN!!!!

After 6 months of waiting for the mempool to empty, so i can open new LN Channels at 1sat/vbyte and have the last 3 pending channels confirmed (opened 6months ago).

I have given up! Will start opening at 3 or 4SATs/vbyte to make sure i have some sort of priority!

Have a few idled BTC to throw at this LN Node!.. Goal is 1,000,000,000SAT LN Node (10BTC) currently at 656,625,638 sat

EDIT: Transaction Confirmed!... 4 Confirmations already!..

EDIT: Also will be trying RBF for the first time, to push those unconfirmed TX... Let's see how that goes...

Please keep us informed. I want to know what 2 - 5 frozen btc will earn you monthly.

Even if it is 1 or 10 btc frozen in the node.I am trying to figure the practically to LN from the viewpoint of the staker of the node.

We got some info on a 17btc node a week or so ago. frankly the earnings on 17 btc tied up were very low.

If you are planning in running a LN Node to make a profit or close to break even, then you are going to need more than 10BTC. You will need to be one of the top tier LN nodes (200+ BTC)

This will be my third year with this LN Node and i can assure you i am way behind in terms of cost, but i am way in front, in terms of knowledge/understanding and access to new technology within the Bitcoin ecosystem.

I also have the opportunity to try new features and see how they work in a real world scenario and to me that is my profit.

I knew early in the game this wasn't going to be a way to earn any substantial amounts of Bitcoin and was happy to let it run and commit anywhere from 1-10BTC as needed.

It's now way too tedious to try and work out all the cost involved in opening and closing channels, especially when you have to force close it get very expensive and currently 323 closed channels. To review each one of those and work out the fees paid is job for another day. Maybe when I got a spare weekend.

But based on overall Routing Fee divided by Total Bitcoins in play, i am at about 0.00605% per year, which doesn't cover the cost of electricity to power the box!

I found a report from River Financial, they have about 360BTC across 2 nodes and earned roughly 0.3 BTC per month or 0.08% per month / 0.99% a year in routing fees.

https://river.com/learn/files/river-lightning-report-2023.pdf

Now, I've got a bone to pick with you....

The one thing i know we don't see eye to eye on, is, the fact you think Lightning Network is Staking.

This nothing close to the bullshit staking/bridges and wrapped shit everyone is so familiar with.

At all times i am still in control of my portion of Bitcoins within the LN Channel.

At anytime i can close/settle my channel, on-chain, using proof of work and have every single sat returned to my on-chain wallet without asking for permission.

No third party can ever rug pull or keep my bitcoin locked up! i can send and received as often as i want.

I don't see this as staking but a true Bitcoin Layer 2 Scaling Solution and i am not here to convince you otherwise, i just wanted to make a point that is a more than Staking ETH on a Polkadot or Burger Chain!

...... and i am also partly blaming you for the mempool backlog! Tongue



to call it hodling is wrong

to call it staking is wrong

StaHodLning it is

staking+hodling+LNing or Sta-Hod-Ln-ing

new coined right here.

hisslyness is a StaHodLning man 👨 named be me for you
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Kudos for your LN work. It's so good to see Bitcoiners who are in it for the tech, and not only for the raw profits. Keep it up.

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October 17, 2023, 07:38:47 PM

Bitcoin is NOT going up.

Everything else is going down.

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https://x.com/luke_broyles/status/1714338611351429498
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Bitcoin is NOT going up.

Everything else is going down.

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https://x.com/luke_broyles/status/1714338611351429498


 Huh Going Down where ..
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well buddy popping 28.5 is better than buddy popping 26.5.

today has been a fun day. I picked up.

1 s19pro 110th
1 s19xp 136th
1 s19xp 141th
1 s19.      96th
1s19.       96th.

total hash is 559th. mine moves to 4.2ph along with L7 and some gpus

burning about 210kwatts. very near max capacity.

but we are negotiating for a 500kwatt transformer so we can run 3 tesla super chargers.

If we get it we can do about 150kwatt of it for mining and still have the power for the chargers.

Ps took my dementia suffering bro-in-law to a doctor which makes the trip to the gear guy free. as he is six miles from my bro-in-law.
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October 17, 2023, 09:08:45 PM

Bitcoin is doing very well after yesterday's pump. I know that pump happed due to Coointelegraph's fake news but the pump really took Bitcoin to good levels and its price is being appreciated after that pump for sure. If a fake news related to ETFs can create such pumps then what would be the response of the investors if in actual those ETFs get approved. I expect huge pumps upon acceptance on ETFs and anyone who's holding their coins will actually won't believe that how intense those pumps will be.
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