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2031 sounds a bit late for me. Generally speaking, it is possible that a some point bitcoin basically plateaus (at much higher levels) and would be going up and down just 20-30% a year.
What I am talking about? I cannot imagine bitcoin going at a 45 degree angle for a decade, but it is possible that bitcoin will very rapidly change it's "state" from a 0.5 tril asset to a 10-20 tril asset (20-40X) and stay there for a long time. This transition could be relatively fast-for example, this cycle and the next one, finished by late 2028, early 2029.
I am not sure why we need to compare bitcoin with GDP when it is mostly an asset that is presumed to be a savings vehicle, at least for a nearest future.
We have roughly 500-900 tril in assets and, I believe, bitcoin could be roughly 2-3% of all assets by 2028-2029.
In addition, Gold has a 13.1 tril market cap and by 2028 halving, bitcoin's stock to flow (indicating scarcity) would be way higher than gold, making it quite plausible that bitcoin can attain a similar market cap.
Both gold and bitcoin are not directly involved in GDP production, or are involved only on a limited basis, for now.

I was a bit bothered by the GDP as some kind of a realistic measurement of bitcoin too, even though there could be some validity to using GDP as part of a measurement, even though overall monetary value is likely a way more appropriate measure, especially since bitcoin seems to either be amongst the soundest of money ever discovered/invented, but also that monetary value ends up being the most appropriate measure of from where bitcoin is going to be taking value since the value is going to flow into the soundest of monies.. so there is nothing else that comes close to bitcoin, even while at the same time, it could take 50 to 200 years for the value flow to really come to later stages in which an overwhelming majority of it is in bitcoin, and surely that seems to be closer to $900k at current times and based on current dollar values.

Another thing that I am considering about SamReomo's presentation of a peak after the 2029 peak is that there is an assumption that we are going to get off of the 4-year cycle, and I doubt that we so easily get rid of the 4-year cycle, so we cannot completely ignore the 4 year cycle or even go contrary to it with0out some kind of an explanation regarding why that would end up happening in 2030/2031.. just seems strange because 30-31 would be correction and/or stagnation years and 2028/2029 and also 2032/33 would be the potential pump years.. and yeah the 4-year cycle is not guaranteed, but it seems a bit counter-factual to just ignore it or presume it away.. even if it does remain possible that the 4-year cycle might disappear at some point.

I believe that the globe's GDP will always be the first thing we look after because the money will flow from the global GDP into Bitcoin and I don't think that without boost in global GDP we may see huge money coming into Bitcoin. I know that there are huge hedge funds that hold a lot of money in their control but they won't throw everything into Bitcoin and in the end the community as a whole needs to invest in it in order to increase its market cap. I'm quite sure that even governments won't be putting a lot of GDP into Bitcoin because they have their reasons for that. When new investors get interested in Bitcoin and they start investing in $Billions then we may see the asset's marketcap to grow and I'm pretty sure the hedge funds will also invest huge funds into it because they want good returns.

I believe that 2030-2031 will play very important role in reconstructing our beliefs because I guess in those years we may no longer have that 4 year cycle in our brain as at that point Bitcoin may reach to levels that it would not be necessary to go after the 4 year cycle anymore. Surely, the half of the community won't let go of their old beliefs but they'll also understand that things change and sometimes we need to forget about the past in order to have a better future. Let's assume that in 2031 instead of having a price correction Bitcoin goes up and up and that would trigger new beliefs in the holders and may help to remove the old beliefs about the 4 year cycle. I know it's easy to say such thing but surely that thing has to happen either in 2031 or in a later year but I'm pretty optimistic about that change.
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Re the Trezor Black Friday sales event, it looks like Best Buy in the USA is a part of the deal as well.

bestbuy.com  <== Search for "Trezor"

It appears that they are not in stock just yet, the website for each store says pickup at store about Nov 25 (I guess you can order now).  Perhaps that means it will become a normally stocked item soon?  Trezor's website ("Resellers") notes that Best Buy is now an authorized reseller of Trezor Model T and Model 1 (though not the new one).  The Trezor T costs a bit over $153, pretty much the same as the Model T at Trezor's own site.

The Ledger Nano S+ is there in stock at Best Buy for anyone who wants one...
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To sue an exchange is the new china bans bitcoin?  Roll Eyes
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Can you imagine a weasel eating his daily McMuffin and trying to sip at the overly hot coffee...

Excellent lay-up for homer’s next post indeed.


If you look back Antisthenes, you would likely realize that "respect" was going to DirtyKeyboard rather than to me, even though you seem to be referencing this here cat.

That’s a big *if* you fagot bot.


Not that your opinion matters very much, since so far you have expressed your best of buddies as the dweebs of the thread, such as exp.

Well not to you it doesn’t, dah.
exphorizon brings value to the table, something the bunch of you can’t come even close, combined.


In the context of things, I am not sure what that means.. .. but when have you said anything that makes much if any sense, in the real world?

We’ll get to that for my next post.




Elon Musk is truly a master of this game.

Can you stop sucking on Elon’s dick? Please!
Btw, meet Elon Musk.



I feel Musk does not get too much attention and praise.

Ah, paint me shocked. Hahahahaha.


I am not a particular fan of him.

Now now, just go gentle on his dick too.



But, hell yeah Bitcoin's price in 2025 won't disappoint us because it isn't the property of that Musk.

Are you sure about that or you’re desperate to join in?
For a person that delivers failed projects by design, I wouldn’t want his name asociated to Bitcoin either.



OMG!  That's literally what everyone, except Antisthenes' mom, calls me!

I know for a fact that you’re an inglorious bastard.
Other than that, we can agree, my parents are systemic, and their son is a delusional paranoid psychotic. Get it?


In other news, I'm having two per day at these prices but I give one of the coffees to a homeless guy who solicits alms every day at the traffic light standard near the entrance to McD's.

Hahahahaha, pathetic.



FTFY

Well, at least my mother is not a whore, which is not something I can assert for your case.




They like me and I want to make their day.

Way far from “liking” you I’m afraid, but you do have some strong competition - i.e. nutildah, suchmoon, xhomerx10, Hueristic, Jimbo and so on.



~ snip ~

Epic bullshit, really!



This resonates good with me:

Yeah, stick to the narrative fillipone.



I believe you are still forgeting the war between CBDC (evil forces) and the BTC (god forces) also sadly i can see more real wars in the world (the traditionals one) and we cant meassure his impact on all the assets and so on.

I believe that you’re a totally disturbed individual.


Spoiler: Jesus comes with a BTC wallet paper from 10 B.C and he see to his right and it was Satoshi Nakamoto sitting alongside him.

Confirmed!



When supply shock

When cross-fit shock?



Early 2020/covid taught me a lesson to not count the spoils of bitcoin investment too early.

The last three years have taught me to not trust anyone or anything that I thought I knew.


Maybe we will still have an unpredictable nasty surprise before halving, but as the time passes by, the probability of such event negates, of course, although we still don't know how bitcoin would react to a prolonged recession.

Written like a champ! [Antisthenes definitely ques his next post]



Maybe a demand shock coming from Argentina now, Dude!

Well, El Salvador didn’t quite cut it, perhaps Argentina will. Or not.



Thanks for all the help and advice JJG.  I'll just leave it as a link for now.

Wlcome to my list, congrats!


I like it big, ~

Oh big it will be.



No kidding. Influencers should always be ignored.

Indeed, especially government afilliated ones. Wink



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Here, have a quote:

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The problem with that ****, is that you’re talking about a direct 51% attack on Bitcoin. In reality, Bitcoin is under “constant 51% attacks” meaning that there is a plot twist involved – that being all the other junk “coins”, creating their coins out of thin air, pumped and dumped with the aid of dubious exchanges with zero to little liquidy, and then converting their proceeding profits to Bitcoin and consequently FIAT. I like to call it: “a side chain covert 51% attack on Bitcoin”, with Binance being the main attack facilitator, and the added bonus being the flock of sheep that support this.
Human greed at it’s finest!



Good riddance and I hope they drop CZ in a hole a few years.

Ain’t happening, but Kiss



Now ...Kraken.

Do you think the name is accidental? Asking for a friend.



To sue an exchange is the new china bans bitcoin?

Nah, it’s purely political fuckery, don’t pay too much attention.



I like what you guys are doing, I must say - it removes some workload - thanks.
One posts the trigger, and the other one answers it. Too bad that I’m triggered by everything you write.
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To sue an exchange is the new china bans bitcoin?  Roll Eyes

Drama every month "china bans" when search in google ...

This news is not impacted with 'bitcoin' don't worry...buddy  Cool
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For those not yet aware of the recent OpenAI / Sam Altman saga, here's a nice summary:

The OpenAI Saga - Everything Changed AGAIN!

I wonder what's going to happen to OpenAI / ChatGPT after all this mess...
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