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November 23, 2023, 04:39:14 PM

Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it.

Would be nice if we could finally break 38k during the holiday period & stay over. It seems a but of a bitch to break atm.
I am already past 38k I am looking to be over 40k 🔜

Snap out of it Philip.

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You are going to end up jinxing us, like you frequently tend to accomplish. #justsaying

Finally you cracked and now realize my 70k in may prediction made in april 2021 has still been the turning point jinx for btc.

Its tough to live down that I have held all of btc back with that one prediction.  So far honey badger still cares.
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People are cheering because banks got a Bitcoin Custody Licence.  Lips sealed Lips sealed
Shouldn't they be afraid about it? Will you store your Bitcoin in banks? What makes them better than any CEX available on the market? And what about non-custodial wallets?  Sad
It is funny criticizing the use of centralized exchange but celebrating banks to be their bitcoin holder. The rhetorical question is: who are the CEX? Who are the banks and? Is it not the same centralized authority that's regulating them both? So what difference will it make in terms of operations.

Figuratively, it is like the Isrealites (in the Bible) going back to slavery in Egypt but in another dimension. All what most persons pay attention to about bitcoin is the price, whatever that may occur to affect the price of bitcoin to rise is fine by them, never taken time to contrast if it's in line with the tenets behind the creation of bitcoin - financial freedom and privacy - these are precepts that you can't get from traditional banking system under a centralized control.
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People are cheering because banks got a Bitcoin Custody Licence.  Lips sealed Lips sealed
Shouldn't they be afraid about it? Will you store your Bitcoin in banks? What makes them better than any CEX available on the market? And what about non-custodial wallets?  Sad
People are rooting for anything that can raise the price of Bitcoin, and I guess they think that the Bitcoin logo on the door of their bank will mean that the price will explode. Also, in order to be afraid of something, you need to understand it first, and how many people know about Bitcoin more than they have created an account on some CEX and added their bank account for buying/selling. When you tell them something about private keys and the risks they face with custodial solutions, they look at you in amazement as if you were talking about atomic physics.

In addition, all these custodial solutions when it comes to banks are (so far) exclusively related to services for institutional investors, not for ordinary people. In other words, banks want to compete with companies like Coinbase that provide just such services.
Anybody responding to that post even check the link?
CommerZbank?
I know it is German but come on now!

Anything with 'Z' is speculative when it relates to crypto in my books.
They want to look cyberpunk-ish to the mass market or something. Roll Eyes
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For all you Americans
South of the border.

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November 23, 2023, 06:33:55 PM

People are cheering because banks got a Bitcoin Custody Licence.  Lips sealed Lips sealed
Shouldn't they be afraid about it? Will you store your Bitcoin in banks? What makes them better than any CEX available on the market? And what about non-custodial wallets?  Sad


Satoshi created Bitcoin because he wanted to give the world a currency that could be traded between two parties without any interference from a third party (Centralized Banks), but now when banks are going to have the custody of someone's Bitcoin then that's a confirmed thing that people aren't well aware of the decentralized feature of Bitcoin and are letting it to be controlled by the centralized system once again.
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https://blockstream.info/nojs/tx/b5a2af5845a8d3796308ff9840e567b14cf6bb158ff26c999e6f9a1f5448f9aa

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Somebodies getting fired!


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This transaction saved 42% on fees by upgrading to native SegWit-Bech32

Good thing they saved on those fees! Cheesy


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What if……..



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In 2017 it took ~9 months for #Bitcoin  to go from $1k to $20k. The block subsidy was 12.5, there was a lot more BTC sloshing around on exchanges, mining was boiling the oceans, and there was zero institutional money coming in.

$1k to $20k is 20x.

$50k to $1M is 20x.
https://x.com/excellion/status/1727740190972657761



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I think the biggest effect on Bitcoin will be the amount of scams that AI begins attempting to try and stack BTC for whatever reason.



Well yeah, just recall that fagot bot hitting a Binance fake spike at $100k+ not so long ago.



And the day that we are no longer able to tell apart AI from Non-AI might never come. I have yet to see undeniable proof that such a thing is even possible or impossible.



Humans will always be able to tell if they are dealing with an AI - no matter how advanced.
The reason? It has no soul, and the soul cannot be simulated. Ever.



I will neither admit or deny fitting that descriptive in the real world (or even in cyberspace), even though I can see that you are referring to yours truly...  

Of course you wouldn’t … right now … but you will, promise.

I am soooooo soooooooo glad that you care.

I don’t care.
The fact that I’m quoting you, doesn’t mean I want to read an answer from you.
Whom in their fucking mind would want to listen to a fagot bot anyways.





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Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it.

I celebrate it every day of the year, yo.



quid pro quo  Kiss

So you did like my M.I.A post!

Now now, don’t get too cozy - and that goes for the bunch of ya.



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There is definitely something fishy what that. Tax relief perhaps?
[That would require the one spending that fee - to mine the transaction, I know, I know]

And then we have you [of all], posting all these fucked up transactions.



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Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it.

Would be nice if we could finally break 38k during the holiday period & stay over. It seems a but of a bitch to break atm.

I am already past 38k I am looking to be over 40k 🔜

edit : 40k is my next 1% sale

Phil...listen..I suggest not doing these 1% sales at the verge of a bull market, unless you HAVE to.
Peeps were telling this to you before: in 2015-2016, then in 2020-2021 (maybe re shitcoins) and you were arguing that it is all good...it is difficult to move you from that "laddering" opinion that both you and @jjg espouse.
Sometimes we all are acting against the better judgement: I sold stuff (not bitcoin) in the early winter of 2020-2021 just before alts and bitcoin went vertical for 3-4 mo. For what: to do the roof replacement.
Should I waited a bit considering all that I knew at the time? Absolutely, but the idea of a new roof already "infected" my mind, so...a bit less cap gains.
I get it that "sitting tight" as Jesse Livermore was calling it, is difficult, but going backwards, it's the BEST play in the last 20 years in AAPL and AMZN, the best play in NVDA in the last 10, best play in GOOGL since the IPO, best play in MSFT since many decades ago. Eventually, you would not have to sell btc, but would borrow a bit against it, hence NO cap gains.

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Supercycle discussion...it did not happen in 2021, probably due to FTX, overleverage, etc.
Maybe this cycle and the next one would merge into one?

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-supercycle-2024-investment-trading
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In 2017 it took ~9 months for #Bitcoin  to go from $1k to $20k. The block subsidy was 12.5, there was a lot more BTC sloshing around on exchanges, mining was boiling the oceans, and there was zero institutional money coming in.

$1k to $20k is 20x.

$50k to $1M is 20x.
https://x.com/excellion/status/1727740190972657761



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It can go 20x again but this time it will be a little bit tough to see Bitcoin getting 20x times again in 9 months because when Bitcoin moved from $1k to $20k it's marketcap wasn't that high but now Bitcoin is at $37k and it's market Cap is still over $725.39B. When Bitcoin moved from $1k to $20k in 2017 the trading volume of each day was in $Millions but now it's in $Billions. Hope to see Bitcoin rising 20x again and then we may be seeing Bitcoin daily trading volume in 100's of Billions or maybe in Trillions.
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November 23, 2023, 09:08:09 PM

Supercycle discussion...it did not happen in 2021, probably due to FTX, overleverage, etc.
Maybe this cycle and the next one would merge into one?

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-supercycle-2024-investment-trading

It definitely was FTX and their fraud of keeping people from buying BTC to dump into shitcoins that kept Bitcoin’s price depressed during the last cycle. Will this cycle make up for it and put us back on track or did FTX set us back 4 years. I guess we’ll see if the market only goes up to $150,000 or if it makes up for the last cycle and shoots up over half a mil…
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Supercycle discussion...it did not happen in 2021, probably due to FTX, overleverage, etc.
Maybe this cycle and the next one would merge into one?

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-supercycle-2024-investment-trading

It definitely was FTX and their fraud of keeping people from buying BTC to dump into shitcoins that kept Bitcoin’s price depressed during the last cycle. Will this cycle make up for it and put us back on track or did FTX set us back 4 years. I guess we’ll see if the market only goes up to $150,000 or if it makes up for the last cycle and shoots up over half a mil…

IMO, if the market can make up for the loss of momentum starting in 2021, preferably within a year or so, while the world economy keeps generating the needed fiat fuel, the party which FTX was crashing will likely continue. Emerging adoption on a broad scale, like mentioned in the article Biodom shared, would help for sure. We'll see how man contibuting factors and dynamics will come together, and if they will drive each other (directly or indirectly), it could be enough to start off the "Supercycle" missing the blowoff-top, but further increase of value.
We might live through one or a few more cycles to finally witness Bitcoin's scarcity effect kicking in.

EDIT: I missed that completely...
Quote from: Bittrex-Email
Important Update Regarding Bittrex Global

Dear OOM,


It is with great regret that we write to inform you that Bittrex Global has decided to wind down its operations. This decision was not made lightly, and we understand the inconvenience it may have on our valued customers.
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I had no funds on Bittrex, however. Still, an exchange less to sell some of my corn near next ATH  Angry
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