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[Phil_S]

Interesting prediction by kellrobinson from page 28734:

Interesting chart.  The bit missing is the price seeking level related to the NEXT halving.

quadratic regression on the logarithmic scale indicates $76k
There's an app a chart for that ha ha

Interesting chart.  The bit missing is the price seeking level related to the NEXT halving.

Your wish is my command.

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[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[JayJuanGee]

Btw these rallies are they more exciting for last cycle newcomers
Or for the more OG multiple cycle hodlers?

For example I see some cheering from people buying 20-30-40-50k coins but the feeling for true OG’s is little more life changing somehow?
Also been through some aweful bears, still being here, believing, knowing what we have in hand and ultimately being strongly rewarded etc

Look for any og that holds serious coin this is huge.

A 2012 guy can easily have 100 coins

I agree that a guy with 100 coins may well be set for life.. just like he was in late 2022... even though the BTC price was ONLY around $20k at that time (sometimes less and sometimes more)

SO

2021 6.90 million

2022 1.59 million at this point in time many people would struggle about the decision to have held

Yep.. Exactly.. you were struggling to consider what to do with your coin at that time and even suggesting that the guy with 100 coins should have sold.. and bought Ibonds, but that would have been dumb, even though the guy probably could have continued to make monthly withdrawals of his coins at a rate of 10% per year starting from October 1, 2022 and still would have plenty of coins today.. (and have right around 86.4 BTC right now).  Look at this calculation, and pay attention to the 200-WMA rather than the spot price.

2024 7.30 million at this point those that have held may shave off some of the 100 coins they held just in case we crash and burn. But maybe 5%

those are serious swings and I am pretty sure more than one person here on the wo has coin like that.

Myself due to a lack of belief from 2012 to 2017 I do not have coin like that.

This is nice uptick for me. It is not life changing.

You are saying that you got your belief into bitcoin in 2018?  so I can continue to harass you and say that if you had merely invested $200 per week into bitcoin starting from mid 2018, then you would have invested around $60.4k and gotten 4.8314 BTC.  That wouldn't be bad.

GrayScale selling hopefully slowing down.
Only 560 BTC transferred today.

The sooner they run out of Bitcoin, the better. What an awful business model, surely they drastically lower their fee soon or within a couple of months they have no Bitcoin and no business.

They don't really need to change what they are doing.  Even though they lost 40% of their BTC, BTC has gone up more than 40%, so they still have the same quantity of assets under manangement.

Just over a month until the halving now.
New Poll?

What will the price be at the time of the halving?

I'll have to see the options. 

I would suggest:

1) Sub $40k

2) $40k to $60k

3) $60,001 to $80k

4) $80,001 to $100k

5) $100,001 to $120k

6) $120,001 to $140k

7) more than $140k

In March 2020 we crashed to $5000... what a difference in only 4 years.

"Technically" we crashed to $3,850 on March 12/13, 2020.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[AirtelBuzz]

[OgNasty]

It’s being reported that Michael Saylor is raising another $500,000,000 to buy BTC! This guy is crazy and not going to let this rally stop anytime soon. As much as I hate trading, I think not buying long dated Microstrategy call options at the bottom of this cycle will forever be missing out on the easiest trade to get rich of all time.

[philipma1957]

Btw these rallies are they more exciting for last cycle newcomers
Or for the more OG multiple cycle hodlers?

For example I see some cheering from people buying 20-30-40-50k coins but the feeling for true OG’s is little more life changing somehow?
Also been through some aweful bears, still being here, believing, knowing what we have in hand and ultimately being strongly rewarded etc

Look for any og that holds serious coin this is huge.

A 2012 guy can easily have 100 coins

I agree that a guy with 100 coins may well be set for life.. just like he was in late 2022... even though the BTC price was ONLY around $20k at that time (sometimes less and sometimes more)

SO

2021 6.90 million

2022 1.59 million at this point in time many people would struggle about the decision to have held

Yep.. Exactly.. you were struggling to consider what to do with your coin at that time and even suggesting that the guy with 100 coins should have sold.. and bought Ibonds, but that would have been dumb, even though the guy probably could have continued to make monthly withdrawals of his coins at a rate of 10% per year starting from October 1, 2022 and still would have plenty of coins today.. (and have right around 86.4 BTC right now).  Look at this calculation, and pay attention to the 200-WMA rather than the spot price.

2024 7.30 million at this point those that have held may shave off some of the 100 coins they held just in case we crash and burn. But maybe 5%

those are serious swings and I am pretty sure more than one person here on the wo has coin like that.

Myself due to a lack of belief from 2012 to 2017 I do not have coin like that.

This is nice uptick for me. It is not life changing.

You are saying that you got your belief into bitcoin in 2018?  so I can continue to harass you and say that if you had merely invested $200 per week into bitcoin starting from mid 2018, then you would have invested around $60.4k and gotten 4.8314 BTC.  That wouldn't be bad.[/b]


I never said I don't have 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 btc.

I said I don't have 100 btc

[JayJuanGee]

Btw these rallies are they more exciting for last cycle newcomers
Or for the more OG multiple cycle hodlers?

For example I see some cheering from people buying 20-30-40-50k coins but the feeling for true OG’s is little more life changing somehow?
Also been through some aweful bears, still being here, believing, knowing what we have in hand and ultimately being strongly rewarded etc

Look for any og that holds serious coin this is huge.

A 2012 guy can easily have 100 coins

I agree that a guy with 100 coins may well be set for life.. just like he was in late 2022... even though the BTC price was ONLY around $20k at that time (sometimes less and sometimes more)

SO

2021 6.90 million

2022 1.59 million at this point in time many people would struggle about the decision to have held

Yep.. Exactly.. you were struggling to consider what to do with your coin at that time and even suggesting that the guy with 100 coins should have sold.. and bought Ibonds, but that would have been dumb, even though the guy probably could have continued to make monthly withdrawals of his coins at a rate of 10% per year starting from October 1, 2022 and still would have plenty of coins today.. (and have right around 86.4 BTC right now).  Look at this calculation, and pay attention to the 200-WMA rather than the spot price.

2024 7.30 million at this point those that have held may shave off some of the 100 coins they held just in case we crash and burn. But maybe 5%

those are serious swings and I am pretty sure more than one person here on the wo has coin like that.

Myself due to a lack of belief from 2012 to 2017 I do not have coin like that.

This is nice uptick for me. It is not life changing.

You are saying that you got your belief into bitcoin in 2018?  so I can continue to harass you and say that if you had merely invested $200 per week into bitcoin starting from mid 2018, then you would have invested around $60.4k and gotten 4.8314 BTC.  That wouldn't be bad.[/b]

I never said I don't have 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 btc.

I said I don't have 100 btc

I am not trying to coax out of you how many BTC that you have, but I am working with your discussion points.. so if you have been able to outperform DCAing and various kinds of BTC accumulation strategies by your trading and sometimes selling BTC to try to get more, then the more power to you... I suppose that I am just suggesting that the emphasis should be on BTC accumulation and buying until you reach whatever your accumulation (or over accumulation) goal is, and then you have more liberties to start shaving off BTC.. but you seems to have been so busy selling and then saying that you don't have enough BTC..

If you have enough BTC then there would not be any problem selling.. .. but the problem is selling BTC when you don't have enough.. and the specific amount of what "is enough" is up to you, not anything anyone else imposes on you.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[Chibit01]

Btw these rallies are they more exciting for last cycle newcomers
Or for the more OG multiple cycle hodlers?

For example I see some cheering from people buying 20-30-40-50k coins but the feeling for true OG’s is little more life changing somehow?
Also been through some aweful bears, still being here, believing, knowing what we have in hand and ultimately being strongly rewarded etc

Look for any og that holds serious coin this is huge.

A 2012 guy can easily have 100 coins

I agree that a guy with 100 coins may well be set for life.. just like he was in late 2022... even though the BTC price was ONLY around $20k at that time (sometimes less and sometimes more)

SO

2021 6.90 million

2022 1.59 million at this point in time many people would struggle about the decision to have held

Yep.. Exactly.. you were struggling to consider what to do with your coin at that time and even suggesting that the guy with 100 coins should have sold.. and bought Ibonds, but that would have been dumb, even though the guy probably could have continued to make monthly withdrawals of his coins at a rate of 10% per year starting from October 1, 2022 and still would have plenty of coins today.. (and have right around 86.4 BTC right now).  Look at this calculation, and pay attention to the 200-WMA rather than the spot price.

2024 7.30 million at this point those that have held may shave off some of the 100 coins they held just in case we crash and burn. But maybe 5%

those are serious swings and I am pretty sure more than one person here on the wo has coin like that.

Myself due to a lack of belief from 2012 to 2017 I do not have coin like that.

This is nice uptick for me. It is not life changing.

You are saying that you got your belief into bitcoin in 2018?  so I can continue to harass you and say that if you had merely invested $200 per week into bitcoin starting from mid 2018, then you would have invested around $60.4k and gotten 4.8314 BTC.  That wouldn't be bad.[/b]


I never said I don't have 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 btc.

I said I don't have 100 btc

I will continue working so hard and also be looking for money to make a better investment in bitcoin this kind of discussion in this thread is actually what I will like to be commenting on n for real with the ideas or having plenty bitcoin just as all you are aforementioning here seriously there is joy in me when I see ogs who has already grown to this level of discussing having BTC this way plenty as if it is a shit coins that has no value I want one day I will grow gradually to get to that stage ........

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[fillippone]

It’s being reported that Michael Saylor is raising another $500,000,000 to buy BTC! This guy is crazy and not going to let this rally stop anytime soon. As much as I hate trading, I think not buying long dated Microstrategy call options at the bottom of this cycle will forever be missing out on the easiest trade to get rich of all time.

Here quant I wrote about it in another thread:

Rinse and repeat.
The important thing is that once they have cashed those 500 million, they will buy Bitcoin on the open market during the early European Hours, when liquidity is thin,  and they are not going to be shy. They will lift the market in European hours for approximatively 6,500 BTC. Another big green candle is coming in the next few days.

They did it last Monday, so I guess we have a pattern here.

[BitcoinBunny]

O/T

I'm all for this.

Future cars could ditch touchscreens and bring back buttons – all in the name of safety
https://www.techradar.com/vehicle-tech/hybrid-electric-vehicles/future-cars-could-ditch-touchscreen-and-go-back-to-physical-buttons-all-in-the-name-of-safety


Bye bye no stalk Tesla.

Bunch of dumb asses and those convinced "it doesn't matter, it's just as safe".  

[El duderino_]

Little early

But cruising into #HODLsleep

[Hhampuz]

O/T

I'm all for this.

Future cars could ditch touchscreens and bring back buttons – all in the name of safety
https://www.techradar.com/vehicle-tech/hybrid-electric-vehicles/future-cars-could-ditch-touchscreen-and-go-back-to-physical-buttons-all-in-the-name-of-safety


Bye bye no stalk Tesla.

Bunch of dumb asses and those convinced "it doesn't matter, it's just as safe".  

A touchscreen for some media stuff and gps is fine, but I can never understand why it became so widely accepted to literally remove every button in the car and add it on the screen.. A bunch of morons, lol. I welcome a buttons & knobs comeback!

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[Biodom]

O/T

I'm all for this.

Future cars could ditch touchscreens and bring back buttons – all in the name of safety
https://www.techradar.com/vehicle-tech/hybrid-electric-vehicles/future-cars-could-ditch-touchscreen-and-go-back-to-physical-buttons-all-in-the-name-of-safety


Bye bye no stalk Tesla.

Bunch of dumb asses and those convinced "it doesn't matter, it's just as safe".  

A touchscreen for some media stuff and gps is fine, but I can never understand why it became so widely accepted to literally remove every button in the car and add it on the screen.. A bunch of morons, lol. I welcome a buttons & knobs comeback!

The wife of some billionaire recently drowned after her touchscreen enabled Tesla erroneously backed up into a pool.
https://nypost.com/2024/03/09/us-news/angela-chao-made-panicked-call-before-dying-in-completely-submerged-tesla-on-texas-ranch/
This was widely posted.
I would NEVER buy a car in which I would have to take my eyes off the road to activate drive/park/reverse or window swiping.

[BitcoinBunny]

O/T

I'm all for this.

Future cars could ditch touchscreens and bring back buttons – all in the name of safety
https://www.techradar.com/vehicle-tech/hybrid-electric-vehicles/future-cars-could-ditch-touchscreen-and-go-back-to-physical-buttons-all-in-the-name-of-safety


Bye bye no stalk Tesla.

Bunch of dumb asses and those convinced "it doesn't matter, it's just as safe".  

A touchscreen for some media stuff and gps is fine, but I can never understand why it became so widely accepted to literally remove every button in the car and add it on the screen.. A bunch of morons, lol. I welcome a buttons & knobs comeback!

The wife of some billionaire recently drowned after her touchscreen enabled Tesla erroneously backed up into a pool.
https://nypost.com/2024/03/09/us-news/angela-chao-made-panicked-call-before-dying-in-completely-submerged-tesla-on-texas-ranch/
This was widely posted.
I would NEVER buy a car in which I would have to take my eyes off the road to activate drive/park/reverse or window swiping.

Very interesting article and interesting comments:

"If it was non electric car she could have simply and literally rolled down the windows."
-"Roll down the windows ?  What are you driving a 1972 Chevy Corvair"

What happens in a submerged Cyber Truck?
The windows are supposed to be bullet proof, right?

[JayJuanGee]

O/T

I'm all for this.

Future cars could ditch touchscreens and bring back buttons – all in the name of safety
https://www.techradar.com/vehicle-tech/hybrid-electric-vehicles/future-cars-could-ditch-touchscreen-and-go-back-to-physical-buttons-all-in-the-name-of-safety

Bye bye no stalk Tesla.

Bunch of dumb asses and those convinced "it doesn't matter, it's just as safe".  

A touchscreen for some media stuff and gps is fine, but I can never understand why it became so widely accepted to literally remove every button in the car and add it on the screen.. A bunch of morons, lol. I welcome a buttons & knobs comeback!

The wife of some billionaire recently drowned after her touchscreen enabled Tesla erroneously backed up into a pool.
https://nypost.com/2024/03/09/us-news/angela-chao-made-panicked-call-before-dying-in-completely-submerged-tesla-on-texas-ranch/
This was widely posted.
I would NEVER buy a car in which I would have to take my eyes off the road to activate drive/park/reverse or window swiping.

Very interesting article and interesting comments:

"If it was non electric car she could have simply and literally rolled down the windows."
-"Roll down the windows ?  What are you driving a 1972 Chevy Corvair"

What happens in a submerged Cyber Truck?
The windows are supposed to be bullet proof, right?

Yeah.. how many of us maintain a glass breaking hammer in our car so that we can escape in an emergency like that?  

They say, even with mechanical doors, you cannot open them with all of the pressure from the water.. I suppose by the time that you are completely submerged and then you can hold your breath long enough, then the water will equalize in such a way to be the same pressure inside and outside the car.  Then you can just leisurely open the door and then swim to safety... Drowning in a car surely seems like a grueling way to leave this world.

[ibminer]

The wife of some billionaire recently drowned after her touchscreen enabled Tesla erroneously backed up into a pool.
https://nypost.com/2024/03/09/us-news/angela-chao-made-panicked-call-before-dying-in-completely-submerged-tesla-on-texas-ranch/
This was widely posted.
I would NEVER buy a car in which I would have to take my eyes off the road to activate drive/park/reverse or window swiping.

Wow, smh... even my robot vacuum has fall detection.

In all seriousness, RIP, this sounds like a horrible way to go...