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Apparently it's 60% for Chinese stuff and 10% for rest of the world stuff : https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2024/trumps-proposed-blanket-tariffs-would-risk-global-trade-war

Housing being unaffordable has several causes, most of them are local and up to politicians, I don't know if Trump or Biden have any plans to improve on that.

Well I've followed a bit on the issue of housing insurance becoming unaffordable in Florida and Texas but not heard about a solution either. Here in France there is basically government backing for insurance, that ultimately everyone pays, so I pay a bit for that even though my house isn't exposed to any significant risk, but on the other hand it means that insurance is relatively cheap for everyone.

Here is an issue you don't hear as to why housing is fucked up.

You are older say 67 (me) you purchased a house a long time ago say 1986 paid 100k it is now worth 750k

you get a 500k deduction if married when you sell it so 750-100 = 650 profit  - 500k deduction = 150 profit taxed at 20% 30 k


So you think not bad.


But if your spouse died 250 deduction do the math above

750-100k = 650k - 250 = 400k x 20%  80k tax.


No rollover to buy.  Ie you buy a 900k house which is more than 750k so you zero out. That is long gone.


the 500k deduction rule is 27 years old.

Tons of people are sitting on home that have gone from 200k to 1100k so 400k profits are taxable.

No one even mentions this issue.

My childhood home was sold for 225k in 1986 it is now worth 1.25 mill a million profit the owners are a mother and a daughter. They do not file joint they are limited to 250k so

1 mill - 250k = 750k 20 tax = 150k. even if they buy up. and moron Biden wants to raise that cap gain to 40%

so that home cap tax would be 300k.


Law is holding up sales from 1980-1995 purchases.  Most homes gained a ton if they were held 29-44 years.

Housing market is in real trouble with that undersized cap gain deduction.

All of it is true, but more relevant if you sell.
If spouse inherits, she is not liable for any tax if she does not sell.
The will results in a step-up-basis up to the last owner's day value.
Besides, there are things like RLT if don't want probate.
I am sure there are ways to extract value if you don't want to sell like a reverse mortgage, etc.
However, the fact that they did not adjust it for inflation recently is weird as they started to adjust other things, like OASDI and non-taxable estate value (currently up to $13.61 mil, but supposed to go down to 5mil? in 2026).

The most egregious among all is the $3K allowable loss per year in investments.
The number is the same as in 1977 with 427% inflation since, so the allowable loss should be more like $15-16 thou.
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Apparently it's 60% for Chinese stuff and 10% for rest of the world stuff : https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2024/trumps-proposed-blanket-tariffs-would-risk-global-trade-war

Housing being unaffordable has several causes, most of them are local and up to politicians, I don't know if Trump or Biden have any plans to improve on that.

Well I've followed a bit on the issue of housing insurance becoming unaffordable in Florida and Texas but not heard about a solution either. Here in France there is basically government backing for insurance, that ultimately everyone pays, so I pay a bit for that even though my house isn't exposed to any significant risk, but on the other hand it means that insurance is relatively cheap for everyone.

Here is an issue you don't hear as to why housing is fucked up.

You are older say 67 (me) you purchased a house a long time ago say 1986 paid 100k it is now worth 750k

you get a 500k deduction if married when you sell it so 750-100 = 650 profit  - 500k deduction = 150 profit taxed at 20% 30 k


So you think not bad.


But if your spouse died 250 deduction do the math above

750-100k = 650k - 250 = 400k x 20%  80k tax.


No rollover to buy.  Ie you buy a 900k house which is more than 750k so you zero out. That is long gone.


the 500k deduction rule is 27 years old.

Tons of people are sitting on home that have gone from 200k to 1100k so 400k profits are taxable.

No one even mentions this issue.

My childhood home was sold for 225k in 1986 it is now worth 1.25 mill a million profit the owners are a mother and a daughter. They do not file joint they are limited to 250k so

1 mill - 250k = 750k 20 tax = 150k. even if they buy up. and moron Biden wants to raise that cap gain to 40%

so that home cap tax would be 300k.


Law is holding up sales from 1980-1995 purchases.  Most homes gained a ton if they were held 29-44 years.

Housing market is in real trouble with that undersized cap gain deduction.

All of it is true, but more relevant if you sell.
If spouse inherits, she is not liable for any tax if she does not sell.
The will results in a step-up-basis up to the last owner's day value.
Besides, there are things like RLT if don't want probate.
I am sure there are ways to extract value if you don't want to sell like a reverse mortgage, etc.
However, the fact that they did not adjust it for inflation recently is weird as they started to adjust other things, like OASDI and non-taxable estate value (currently up to $13.61 mil, but supposed to go down to 5mil? in 2026).

The most egregious among all is the $3K allowable loss per year in investments.
The number is the same as in 1977 with 427% inflation since, so the allowable loss should be more like $15-16 thou.

yeah my wife and I are just under a 500k gain.

So we can take the profit. Downsize if we want. Or move to a larger home in a cheaper state.
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Apparently it's 60% for Chinese stuff and 10% for rest of the world stuff : https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2024/trumps-proposed-blanket-tariffs-would-risk-global-trade-war

Housing being unaffordable has several causes, most of them are local and up to politicians, I don't know if Trump or Biden have any plans to improve on that.

Well I've followed a bit on the issue of housing insurance becoming unaffordable in Florida and Texas but not heard about a solution either. Here in France there is basically government backing for insurance, that ultimately everyone pays, so I pay a bit for that even though my house isn't exposed to any significant risk, but on the other hand it means that insurance is relatively cheap for everyone.

Here is an issue you don't hear as to why housing is fucked up.

You are older say 67 (me) you purchased a house a long time ago say 1986 paid 100k it is now worth 750k

you get a 500k deduction if married when you sell it so 750-100 = 650 profit  - 500k deduction = 150 profit taxed at 20% 30 k


So you think not bad.


But if your spouse died 250 deduction do the math above

750-100k = 650k - 250 = 400k x 20%  80k tax.


No rollover to buy.  Ie you buy a 900k house which is more than 750k so you zero out. That is long gone.


the 500k deduction rule is 27 years old.

Tons of people are sitting on home that have gone from 200k to 1100k so 400k profits are taxable.

No one even mentions this issue.

My childhood home was sold for 225k in 1986 it is now worth 1.25 mill a million profit the owners are a mother and a daughter. They do not file joint they are limited to 250k so

1 mill - 250k = 750k 20 tax = 150k. even if they buy up. and moron Biden wants to raise that cap gain to 40%

so that home cap tax would be 300k.


Law is holding up sales from 1980-1995 purchases.  Most homes gained a ton if they were held 29-44 years.

Housing market is in real trouble with that undersized cap gain deduction.

All of it is true, but more relevant if you sell.
If spouse inherits, she is not liable for any tax if she does not sell.
The will results in a step-up-basis up to the last owner's day value.
Besides, there are things like RLT if don't want probate.
I am sure there are ways to extract value if you don't want to sell like a reverse mortgage, etc.
However, the fact that they did not adjust it for inflation recently is weird as they started to adjust other things, like OASDI and non-taxable estate value (currently up to $13.61 mil, but supposed to go down to 5mil? in 2026).

The most egregious among all is the $3K allowable loss per year in investments.
The number is the same as in 1977 with 427% inflation since, so the allowable loss should be more like $15-16 thou.

yeah my wife and I are just under a 500k gain.

So we can take the profit. Downsize if we want. Or move to a larger home in a cheaper state.

checked this just for fun:
https://www.homes.com/houston-tx/under-500k/
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2.5 baths?  Roll Eyes What's that all about?
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2.5 baths?  Roll Eyes What's that all about?

0.5 basically means a small area with a toilet and a sink (no shower or "real" bath)...also known as a "powder room", haha.
I am not sure if this is local or also true for US as a whole.
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2.5 baths?  Roll Eyes What's that all about?

0.5 basically means a small area with a toilet and a sink (no shower or "real" bath)...also known as a "powder room", haha.
I am not sure if this is local or also true for US as a whole.

Thanks man
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-rant rant-

This is all of the bitcoin in the world.

-blah blah-

Yeah, right.

0123456789ABCDEF   01   <--- This is all of the Bitcoin in the world.

Your ignore list is still missing this pearl of a user? Your bad, AlcoHoDL...

oh so that that guy was serious? I thought it was meant to be a humorous post...
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2.5 baths?  Roll Eyes What's that all about?

0.5 basically means a small area with a toilet and a sink (no shower or "real" bath)...also known as a "powder room", haha.
I am not sure if this is local or also true for US as a whole.

Thanks man


 0.50 bath  = sink and toilet      called a half bath common term in USA
 0.75 bath  = sink toilet and shower called a three-quarter bath rarely used in USA but technically correct
 1.00 bath  = sink toilet shower and tub called a full bath common term in USA

If you have a urinal or a bidet in the bath there are no shortcut terms I know of in the USA.

I have heard those terms in
California
Illinois
New York
New Jersey
New Hampshire
Maryland
Virginia                               
which are all the states I have lived in.

It is also on the tv show HGTV which is a national real estate show.

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Switzerland crush Italy and their hopes and dreams for a repeat. On we go, Denmark - Germany in about an hour should be a banger even though Germany shouldn't have too many issues winning this one.

A 2-0 win for the Germans. They are always good in every football tournament. I am curious who will break the German supremacy in this Euro.
Next in line is England vs Slovakia and to me it will be England who must not have any issues in winning this game.  
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